Spreadsheet is in the description. Thanks for watching!

Again I love these tests. This is what real world road trip is like. Much more relevant than the 0-100% and whatever other tests are done by you and other channels. Please continue these tests and I would like to see a spreadsheet with all the data.

I love how this test gives Out of Spec an opportunity to bring back some cars from the old catalog to benchmark them. Let’s see Bolt EV, Mustang Mach-E, the old Leaf, Kona, Niro, etc. Max and Ryan have some work to do!

I think the small battery egmp is a very interesting test. I have a 58kwh ioniq 5 and it's super practical road trip car at a lower cost. Yes I stop more often, but each stop is 10 to 20 mins. It really just requires more stations along your route.

I have the 2022 Pro S RWD. Blue not gray and love it. I have not had any issues. 10 months in and 37k of road miles. The driver assist is really great. Best purchase I have done.

Looking forward for the IONIQ 5 test

We have a RWD 2021 Pro S w/gradient. Had it a little over a year and zero issues. Our 2022 Tesla Model 3 with the LFP battery has it beat in many categories but Out of Spec gave us the idea to get our ID4 at the time and we absolutely love it. Great video Kyle! Thank you!!

Stopping every 2 hours on a road trip is a common safety recommendation so about 160 of your miles in this test is the target. This is a really valuable real world comparison and makes the often quoted eGMP 18m 10-80% all the more relevant although I found I was charging every 2nd stop on my first road trip for no particular reason?

Good test idea. I would still pick this car over TMY - VW is more quiet, has great suspension, blind spot indicators, doesn't have always-on sunroof (hot in summer), parking and rain sensors, lamp above back seats, build quality and many more features.

And you did it again. Made a reasonable pricing comparison. Respect, Kyle

This should be an interesting one. One thing to consider, Kyle, is that you might run into an issue with these Delta chargers if someone else shows up and wants to charge because it will split power. Even split, it might still max out the ID.4, but some of the other faster charging EVs could be impacted if someone shows up during the 15-min charge.

The 10% challenge should be part of the EPA rating i think.

Waiting for this test with the KIA EV6 RWD. Would probably be comparable to the Taycan. I could do this test myself but I don't typically cruise at 80 here in Michigan.

Cant wait to see Dave's M3 on this test

I still say the name doesn't represent what the test is about. Calling the "15 minute charge challenge" would make much more sense.

Do this with Kia ev6 RWD wind. it might do 150 miles. I got 180 miles at 70 mph

I have what might be one of the last ID.4 big battery from Germany - took delivery in October 2022 - still got the tax credit. I never had the issues others have had, I think because mine came with the 3.1 software. It is a moonstone grey, but white interior - I love it! They are def things id like to change - like the plug and charge should be there, and battery precondition!!

Loving this year, definitely my new favorite. Really looking forward to the standard range model 3.

I test drove the ID.4 back in 2021 and found it a *really* nice package...except for the software. Just during the 15 minute test drive, I encountered multiple glitches with the infotainment and controls. If VW can finally get their software sorted, I'd love to own one.

like thiis challenge kyle represents real world driving keep them coming

It would be great to have a comparable 10% test of a standard RWD Tesla model Y, also to see the difference of a long-range compared to a standard for roadtrips.

Good to see content on a vehicle that's been around for a while

The reason of the high voltage is that is has 108s2p configuration. The 77kWh pack has 96s3p. So it is 12 cells more x 3.6 volt in serial

I like the premise of this test. I wish the infrastructure was more consistent for it.

Love your tests! Thank you for your work. I enjoyed your Assisted Driving of BMW i4 test and would love to see same test of the IQ Sense from VW. Great content, keep it up!

As far as i have seen in your range test video, this car has a much better charging curve than my ID.3 with the 62kWh LG battery.

Loves these test, thanks for all the work you do. Will you be doing any testing with the Cadillac Lyriq? I am really interested in that car and have one on order.

I think you might also be impressed by the KIA EV6 RWD Wind. Based on my testing and the data I gathered when reviewing it, the EV6 should easily hit 150+ miles on this test in good conditions, but it was really designed with this exact style of travel in mind (i.e., the charger-hopping style of EV travel Tesla has really pushed with their trip planners).

I love the happy warrior. It seems it is so easy for people to just grump about everything. I have had my id4 for 6 months and put almost 100 miles on it every day. I could not be more happy with it. I bought the “wrong” one with awd and most of the bells and whistles. I regret nothing. I hope everyone out there with their ev is as happy as I am.

Thanks for all the testing you do! Very informative! Which car scan app are you using and does it require connected hardware?

Very interesting challenge. Looking forward to the 77 kWh battery. 🙂

@Out_of_Spec, the 58kwh ioniq 5 and ev6 should give you almost 100miles. Its a heck of a good deal and you should fine one to test.

It would be great if you could create a shared excel sheet with results like Bjorn does for his tests. That way we can refer to the results later and compare. Thanks!

Latest rumor is that the ID4 will be sharing ID7 motor and other attachments. Giving it more efficiency, range and power. Not to mention battery enhancements.

Kyle, Keep up the great work and 2 thumbs up for saving the data in a spreadsheet for future reference. It would be great if this could be done with your historical range test, etc. Keep on testing!!!

I like these tests.

Not sure 80 is a good representation nationwide. Maybe in the west but here in Virginia for example, anything over 80 gets you a reckless driving ticket.

It seems the 2024 model addresses my concerns - much more powerful RWD, ventilated seats and better infotainment.

Thanks for the review. I'm a three and half month 2023 VW ID.4 Pro S owner and love it. Yes, had the Tesla Model Y then been priced at what it is now, I might have reconsidered. More tech than Tesla, no, of course not, or only when I'm dreaming 😅. Yet, far more stylist and distinguished. The infotainment system could be better. All in all, I could easily recommend this car for anyone. Again, thanks, and God bless,

Any chance you could start adding a graphic at the end with all results so we can see how this compares to the other cars you’ve tested? Rankings? I LOVE THESE VIDEOS!!!!

Love my ID.4!!!

You should ask Winnebago if you can test out their eRV, make it a 2 part crossover video with your overlanding channel

Really like the spreadsheet. Probably worth having a column that shows "total" refuel time along with the "15 minutes" of charging. What is interesting is the ratio of time driven to time charging. You spend 15 minutes charging (need to add around 10min to get into the station, hooked up and then unhooked) to drive 60min to 90min, depending upon the car/configuration. Most every ICE based vehicle can get at least 4-6 hours of highway driving on a full tank of fuel with 10-15min of refueling time. Would be interesting to see how the EV's compare with the same 4-6 hours of highway driving.

HI Kyle, First 10% test I’ve watched. I like the concept. Not sure I’d push my EV to 80 for road tripping, just asking to waste range, but as a stress test, I guess you get an extra bump when a maker really values aero as well as charging! Are you tabulating the results? Thanks!!

80mph is kinda fast for us east coasters. Maybe Tom can do that at 70mph for us east coasters

Kyle, thank you and your entire team for all you do. Keep up the great work! If you know anyone who is willing to buy me a Tesla Model 3, let me know. I’d gladly accept it.

Can’t wait to see the ioniq 5 77kw battery pack awd 10% test.

Has the big battery Kia RWD EV6 been tested with this test? I would think that it would do about 180 miles after 15 minutes of charge wouldn’t it?

You would be pissed if you spent $17,000 USD MORE than it is today. WOW, I would be very angry at Tesla if that was me.

Couple comments and suggestions. 1) Given the nature of this test (I.e. simulating a real world road trip w/ 15 min stops vs a controlled, scientific range / charge speed test), II would think that the 15 minutes should include wrestling the cable into the charge port, dealing with the port doors, payment, handshake, everything. If it takes a full minute to get plugged in, make a payment and wait for a long handshake before it actually starts charging, THEN you start the timer, it's actually a 16 minute stop. I know it's not much, but a plug-and-charge ev with a fast handshake should be rewarded for that good user experience rather than penalized and have to wait 45 seconds after the "charging stop" has begun. 2) I know it would add quite a bit to your editing work, but having a graphic overlay with the leaderboard at the end of the video would sure be nice as these roll out. it would gamify the 10% challenge and make me want to see the next one even more (I often watch these on my TV with a remote and getting to the description / spreadsheet is all but impossible

EGMP test please!

Friends of mine just bought a big battery RWD model. In our area AWD models don't exist at any dealers. They wanted an AWD but settled for a RWD.

I’ve never gotten my id.4 below 15% 😂 I don’t know how you can roll up to a charger at 1% so calm

Agreed on the ID.4 being much better than people give it credit for! If a sweet deal on a Polestar 2 hadn't come up this would have been the exact car we would have ended up with (except with the lighter interior).

The Model 3 LR is probably the road trip king. Has access to the supercharger network and can easily go over 100 miles after a 15-20 minute top off. The Taycan has to rely on CCS networks 😬

its nice to see that they've improved infotainment performance to a rate that's acceptable, its a shame it took them like 3 years, but hey, praise where its due

Have you done the rear wheel drive big battery 10% challenge yet? I have the 2023 ID.4 and was wondering 🤘🏼

That’s where my wife and I charge ours! We have two of those hahah

Would love to see you test the EV6!

Other than the infotainment/control cluster I really like my ID.4. I may even like it more than my Mach e. It's really close between the two.

Ha! Tried to find this model. It's MSRP is $38,995 for the ID.4 Standard with 19" wheels and $43,995 for the ID.4 S with the 20" wheels (the one in the video). None in inventory. There wasn't a single ID.4 in inventory under $50,000.

What app are you using on your iPhone for the readings of information on the car? And what OBD2 reader do you use?

All VWs are just what a car should be.

About the same price as a Model Y. Think I will take the Y.

Would love to see the Ioniq 6 RWD performance on this test. I kind of feel it would blast beyond the taycan at a fraction of the price.

Will you do a spreadsheet for all of these tests?

LG pack at 10% and warm temp will pull close to 170-180 KW max with the 3.1 update

I am holding out for a blue one :P

Would the upcoming Chevy Equinox be a competitor of this base ID4?

Wondering how this stacks up vs a Bolt on a road trip: like 60 less miles range but like twice the charging speed. Wondering also if the dead-base ID.4 actually exists at dealers.

From my limited experience the travel assist is actually better to use than Tesla's auto-pilot. No phantom braking, capacitive touch steering wheel, doesn't put a death grip on the car (have both Y and the ID.4 in our household).

So what I’d like to see is a playlist specifically dedicated to public charging only. Help those of us who don’t have access to home charging make that decision. See what that experience is like. Tesla vs those other brands.

What would you recommend vw id4 gtx vs skoda enyaq iv 80x sportline

Will you share a google doc with your findings?

Anyone done a 0-60 test on the small battery ID4? Thinking it should be quicker with the weight reduction...

Great video! Can you do Alyssa's E Tron in the 10% challenge? I think that would be a good baseline for all these newer EVs to go against 4 year old technology.

Are we getting a 0%-100% charging video on this car? I'm curious to see the charging curve throughout the entirety of the session. Thanks!

They have changed the steering wheel to animal free, this is why it feels different. The refresh with the big screen and the 280 horsepower Motor will be perfect.

11:52 FYI..."This ones a Pro S" - actually it's an S, minus the Pro part. Reference 3:55 for a window sticker shot.

This video is loading at 360p to me, in the TV... Super weird pixels! 😢

are you going to do the 10% challenge with the R1T?

Is this LFP battery pack or NCM ?

tesla model 3 base did: 260 Wh/mi = 3.84 mi/kWh and 106 miles in total this vw id.4 did 23:25 : 400 Wh/mi = 2.5 mi/kWh and 60 miles in total

You have to include handshake time from the 15 minute charge, otherwise its just a pointless test. In the real world you are always going to have to wait for those handshakes as part of your charging time, not including them is biased against any company that put effort into reducing them as part of their charging strategy.

Whatever is sitting on the binnacle looks like a Raspberry Pi DIY project.

It's not the ID4 that's the issue. It's a nice car with good reviews. The problem, like you said before, is some drivers of the ID4 that give the car a bad name. To generalize, "they" seem inconsiderate at both charging stations and on the road. Kinda like drivers of certain higher end German cars.

Should be rating cars based on highest possible total road trip travel speed. For example, ID.4 here only went 60mph.

Great video but I was told by local car dealer that if an EV goes under 20% the car just stops 🤔

Walked past an ID.4 this morning and I noticed it had drum brakes. How do you feel about that?

Sandy Munro described it best as a grandfathers car 😂

Wow, the Volkswagen ID.4 is truly impressive!

Hmmm... looking at the spreadsheet the 10% challenge is significantly influenced by peak charging speed - 99% of chargers in Australia are 150kw or less - I think there are fewer than 10 chargers in the whole of Australia capable of 250kw+

Good test but is it representative to use an ultra rare 350kw charger?

Why is the 10% test a look style test if it’s meant to mimic a road-trip? Wouldn’t it just need to to go one direction?

VW is finally just now getting their software straightened out … not sure I’d want to wait for “their new and improved” software 😂

Test starts at 6:00 so you can skip the chatter

Everybody keeps talking about how cheap the model Y is now, but when I checked with my insurance, the model Y would cost me $1200 per year more than an I’d.4. Is that normal? I mean, paying that much more for insurance is going to feel like paying an extra $10,000 on the purchase price, and that extra cost doesn’t go away when when the loan is paid off☹️ Am I the only one getting outrageously higher insurance quotes on Teslas vs similar cars from other brands?

For the price, this spec makes no sense, when you can get the big battery faster charging pro..... for 2k less.

I am one of them that I don’t want to buy a Tesla. Why? I was part of Phase 1 installation in Tesla, Austin, TX and I wasn‘t impressed of the Tesla management to say the least. Nope, I had it, I don’t buy a Tesla.

Need an ioniq 6 test