*Panasonic S5 IIx Review* - Dark Lumix ft. ProRes & ALL-I - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bb5-fLVnl8y9kX0.html 10:22 G9 II currently doesn't offer RAW video recording G9 II can shoot 4K 120p, I forgot to mention that.

The S5ii and G9ii Duo is perfect! From low light to long tele lenses, using the same battery, menu, color profile, etc… Very Smart choice!

It's incredible how detailed are your reviews, great work! I have just turned from S5 to s5ii and I am very excited to see all the improvements they did in this model. S5 was great and for sure the new S5ii will be even better.

Thank You…. I have been waiting on you doing this review! 😊

Excellent !!! Great effort appreciated for the really good comparison!

Hello 😀 Full Frame is tempting me, but like you said already having the lenses I want in MFT, and smaller lens for travel are going to keep me in the system. I really hope there is a 9mm G9ii bundle, but I'm not holding my breath. I'll sell my G85 and shift my G9 to backup duty.

Excellent review / comparison as always. Thank you very much!

Thank you so much for the comparison. I've just given up on Sony FF system (because of the weight, the lack of TC support for 3rs party lenses, Sony's refusal to update current camera line-up with features like Focus Bracketing, AF tracking algorithms, and huge dust problems on the sensor) and went back to Micro Four Thirds for wildlife and macro (for personal use). But I still want to work on becoming a professional photographer for pet portrait and action and AF tracking (especially eye tracking) is extremely important and I do miss the DoF of FF and the flexibility of FF files. How well does S5 II and G9 II handle fast moving subjects like dogs and is there a difference in focus reliability in high burst (20, 30, 60 FPS) between the two?

Excellent comparison video! Very very well done. Thank you!

Well done, thanks! when can we see you Pocket 3 review?

With what they accomplished in the g9ii, it will be interesting to see what they bring to the table with the gh7 and the s1hii. I can't believe the s5ii already went on sale in its release year for $600 off MSRP. These new Lumix models are an extreme value for the money when you consider the cameras they are compared against usually take a lot longer to come down in price

Excelente video comparativo 👏🏼

Thank you for your rewiew. I enjoy watching all your videos. For me, the G9II is the camera I've been waiting for. Especially because of the improved autofocus. I will keep my GH5 and GH6 and complement them with the G9II. I have some very good MFT lenses. Therefore, switching to 35mm format is out of the question for me. I can cope with the two stops of noise with excellent AI denoising techniques in Lightroom and Pureraw. For reportage, I am happy to have a larger area in focus. The bookeh of my Olympus 75 mm f1.8 or my 25-50 mm f1.7 is sufficient for me in portraits. I am fully satisfied with the image quality of my MFT cameras. I don't make prints larger than A3 (30x20 cm) anyway. I don't have enough walls in my house for that ;-).

Pre-ordered, cant wait to get my hands on it

Like you you noted many folks are looking for a new small MFT camera (APSC is often smaller these days) and the g9ii isn’t that (rumors though of either a g7 ii or g100ii, either of which could be wonderful). First time I have heard someone’s logic of why both of these cameras use effectively the same body and it made sense…almost enough for me to consider the G9ii. I can see why some folks are buying both; with the G9ii often into the bird/wildlife category. Well done review!

I appreciate your deep dives on the actual performance of these cameras. I have a few Panasonic and Olympus MFT bodies and a S5..and I'm trying to decide if an "upgrade" is really needed. I like to cross format compatibility with the Panasonic bodies although it's possible to miss the the G9 LCD panel. One thing I think you could offer some insight on is the Leica monochrome mode on the G9II. When that was announced there was bit of a gasp in the room at the introduction... but almost no mention of it since. Thanks for all the extensive reviews you offer and I will be watching for updated Panasonic assessment on your channel

As always, very nice and very compact comparison. Isn’t that combination S5 and G9 the ideal set up if you are planning to own more than one camera?

William, a truly excellent comparison review. Thank you.

Después de todos estos años ahora tengo la gh4, Gh5 y s5 😅 soy muy feliz y si todo va bien sumare estos cuerpos al equipo 😊

I have several Pro Olympus lenses like the 150-400 Pro and 40-150 f2.8 Pro and shoot a lot of video. I've been using an OM-1 and E-M1X, both with limited video capabilities compared to any Panasonic m43 body. I've pre-ordered a G9ii to use with those lenses. It will be a companion to the OM-1 in a two camera setup in place of an Olympus 5.3. The G9ii will also be a backup for stills photography with the long lenses. Very interesting review, comparing the G9ii directly to the S5ii. I really enjoyed the review.

Thanks for comparison!👍

Great review man, I love and have the G9 first edition, but I bought a Fuji xt-4 about half a year ago, if I knew the G9 MK II was coming out never would have done that. Literally, MK II checks all the boxes for me...just the perfect system to have.

Is the viltrox speedbooster and sigma 18 -35 compatible with the g9ii?

Nice comparison, thx. 2 stops of iso is much, can be very helpful in difficult situations for example when you are in lowlight and need to make the shutter shorter.

I would find the ability to go from professional use L Mount to travel and family events MFT extremely tempting. The ability to keep one menu system in mind, 1 control layout, reasonable quality video and the ability to choose your favourite lenses and swap them around in the MFT is amazing. Something like this could have a similar effect on the market as hybrid 4k cameras has had.

Do you have an ETA on the Pocket 3 review? I've already watched videos about it from other KZfaqrs but your one will be the only review that really matters.

Thanks for the detailled comparison. I am a G9 owner and already habe a lot of M43 lenses, both zooms and primes. So G9 II would be a "natural" upgrade. I hike a lot and take mostly landscape images, so the size and weight difference of M43 12-35 & 35-100 vs. FF versions is significant for me. Shortly before the G9 II was announced, I considered selling all my M43 gear for the Sony A6700, since I thought APSC would be a good compromise. The reason to upgrade at all from my G9 is that I use it for the occasional travel video, meaning I need video AF-C that works. Do you have an opinion on Sony A6700 vs G9 II? APSC lenses are also quite compact, and the camera itself is even cheaper.

Great comparison, thanks!

Are there any lenses that are par-focal and de-clicked aperture for the L Mount?

The most important photography review in 2023

Hi there, any chance to see a test of the autofocus with speedbooster and EF lens like on some video existing on youtube about the S5II ? Thanks for your work ! 🙂

The G9ii is a very impressive camera. But, as a filmmaker, the S5iix suits my needs more specifically. Considering that the S5iix is just $300 more, I lean more towards it than the G9ii. For many, including myself, $300 sounds like a lot more. But, with what you get with that extra $300, I think it's a smart investment given the flexibility and power that comes with the S5iix. Thank you for your comparisons. Your videos are important to my decision making process. Cheers.

I mostly use adapted vintage manual lenses. A good IBIS is key to manual focus. With the latest Panasonic reviews I'm developing IBIS envy... 🤣. The latest Panasonic IBIS seems to be better than the one in Nikon and Canon for use with no OIS lenses.

Thank you very much for this valueable review! Please, have you tried compatibility of Panasonic G9 II with Moza Aircross 2 (control the camera with gimbal, control the recording) ?

Excellent video as always! You have the best camera content on KZfaq in my opinion.

informative video.

Thank you for this video. Completely off topic. I am hoping the S5ii and G9ii goodness flows to the small M43 bodies. I’d love to see an updated GX9 Mii. Please, lease, please include an audio jack. I wonder if Panasonic can produce small full frame bodies like the Sony A7C. Wouldn’t that be wonderful? As you pointed out in this review, there are many things to love about both parties. It’s interesting to consider being in both micro 4/3 and full frame camp. Same body. See menus. Similar output. The best of both worlds. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

If I want to film everyday life, travel, walk tour to capture the environment and product reviews where I will behind the camera most of the time to do the talking, elements record for game making and I want to experiment music making with singing and instrument too and the video will be shot with a Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder and Sony A7RV, what minimal multi use cases no show on screen audio setups are right for me, should I get just one stereo super cardioid shotgun mic or an omnidirectional audio recorder to do it all or combination of them to cover stereo and mono needs? That camcorder has an optional handle with LED and 2 XLR inputs but the setup will be tall even before add the mics, is XLR necessary and will I able to use the XLR handle on the camcorder as music recorder? The gear I have in mind are the unique looking stereo Sennheiser MKE 440, Deity V Mic D4 Duo, Sony ECM-B1M, Sony PCM-A10 recorder, Zoom H2n, Saramonic SR-VRM1, Roland R07 and Zoom H3-VR. For photography, I shoot mainly for document life and creative shots and potentially photograph for photorealistic shots, I haven't know how to get photography gig yet, I will use the A7RV to shoot photo but do you think it's for me I should go for RX100 VII, or something in between, but I think there's no much reasons other than weight to get unpocketable compact cameras because you get less handling and EVF but still need to carry with a bang or hang on neck, I know I can get great shots with RX100 VII or Lumix LX10 but I have some photographs ideas that might only able to achieve with interchangeable camera which is full body person with background blur from a distance, ultramacro and I want to try to join competitions. I not a bokeh person but a story and creativity driven person and prefer most of my shots to be fully in focused, and sometime I wonder do I really need to put so much effort into carry these gears when I can just google the photos I want to look at that other people already took, what you guys think, A7RV, G9 ii, GX9, RX10 IV, LX100 ii/D Lux 7, LX10, RX100 VII or something else? I was plan to get the Sony 70-200mm F4 ii with 2X tele converter which can get 1:1 macro and 600mm digitally too but that camcorder can reach that hence it's less needed and just I need to figure out ways I can get more magnification of macro hopefully with a tele lens too to reach things further away.

The criticism is in order when the G9mkII was the only m43 body. But we have a G90 still (not as good), G100 and here we can expect (itseems) a G100 II with the same focussing capabilities (OSPDAF) and 25,2 MP sensor. G100 is MUCH smaller than G9mkII. I think what many hope for is a GX8 with thart 25,2 MP sensor, updated EVF and same OSPDAF. Video etc is less important. Oh and a better IBIS. ANother chunk wants similar specs to GX8 mark II as described above but in a smallish format.

Great video, do you know is the small rig black mamba cage for the S5 will fit the G9 II, I am not sure if the S5 is the same size as the G9 II?

excellent, thank you

Hi, Panasonic G9 II can record 4K 50/60p without 1.5x crop, like S5 II / IIx)? Full Hd mode: ho from this win? On the Full Hd mode, both cameta can use new focus Phase AF or use Contrast AF (old System from Pany)? Thanks

Went for the S5IIX myself as I frequently shoot in low light. Otherwise the G9II looks like a great camera.

What are some of your smaller favorite primes for FF lumix? Trying to debate on the g9ii or s5ii.

how would you compare now in 2024 the G9 ll with the GH5S? I am asking because I found a GH5S for about 1100 euro while the G9 ll of course is about 1000 euro more... Is it still more valuable to get the GH5 S and a good rig set up and tripod for that extra 1000 euro than to accept the future of Phaedetct and greater continuous autofocus is here and one should then clearly choose the G9 ll in 2024 if one wants to make money on one's videos? What is your take, what is the lower-priced GH5S still good for in this year? thanks for getting back, I really appreciate your videos and your eye for details!

Excellent review and comparison, thank you. This helped my decide to buy a G9ii. My only criticism of your critique is that your low light performance comparison is made in absolute terms and does not take into account the ability of the G9ii to use a lower ISO setting at any given light level for non-moving subjects such as your test scene because of its superior IBIS performance.

Would you not like the Olympus 12-40 Pro f2.8 with G9ii? I use it with my G9 and it's wonderful.

waiting for your pocket 3 review

Have you tested the video IBIS of the G9ii using an ultra wide lens like a 7.5mm? I heard the G9ii works much better in ultra wide focal lengths than any other camera because Panasonic has algorithms to eliminate corner warping?

Great Video!!

pretty cool to see a new micro 4/3rds camera

Great comparison of two awesome cameras. For most shooting situations, the extra portability, vast array of (usually) cheaper lenses, and better stabilization make the G9ii the winner in my book.

So know i definitely don´t know wich one! Maybe i wait some more years :D

Great review, I am considering which of these I’d like to get if I was to upgrade soon and every system has its pros and cons so you just need to work out what is best for what you need it for. The more I look at it the more I’m starting to think that the g9II is probably the right choice for me given I’m already in the M43 system and a lot of the work I’ll do with the camera is real estate photos and video and M43 has advantages with those types of shoots especially having no crop in 4K60 (or 4K120). The crop on the s5II isn’t a big deal for a lot of types of filming like weddings or corporates etc as you can just reposition the camera as you need to for framing but with real estate videos it’s often not possible to compensate for the crop especially in smaller rooms and having smaller, lighter lenses would make it easier to use on a gimbal. The only downside over the FF camera in my view is less low light capability and less bokeh but I don’t think these issues are a deal breaker especially considering the advantages the g9II has over the s5ii in many other areas such as high frame rates, internal Pro-Res etc. The G9ii seems to do OK in lower light and you can always get a fast prime or two to achieve shallow depth of field for interviews etc and I'm not a fan of very blurry backgrounds either.

I think these are both my dream systems, L Mount: all prime lenses 10mm FF ~ 135mm FF L Mount, MFT: 85mm FF ~ + FF zooms.

I read on Chinese site that g9II shoot raw at 16bit using DGO technology panasonic call it dr boost. For GH6 it only apply to video. But with G9II it apply to raw photo as well. But there is certain condition for it to be actived. I kiind forget what is the condition. And I saw two raw comparsion one is without dr boost and 12bit raw and the other with dr boost and 16 bit. and wow what a difference when both lift the shadow all the way.

Where was this shot?

I have a doubt about your comparison: is it based on jpeg files only or have you managed to experiment with raw files? If yes... how? It seems no software is yet abble to process the G9II's raw files...

can you please test g9ii with sigma 18-35mm+speed booster autofocuswise? that's everybody's lookig for it.

Thank you for the comparison! Just a note: the G9 II does not offer RAW video output and Panasonic has said that they have no plans to add it. I’d also favor the G9 II for video stabilization because of the e-stabilization modes that eliminate ibis warping in the corners.

Damn, now i need both 😆

So you will buy G9II and come back to m43? Seem that OM System/ Olympus and Panasonic took too much time to innovate and for around 5 years where releasing repacking old technology in their m43 cameras. But the issue is for how long they will release new technology in a regular period. The body of this cameras show that Panasonic is pushing the L-mount as their primary system, which is the correct decision, but m43 will get the innovations introduced in FF.

Have you ever tried the sigma H series with its optical to display viewfinder? It’s the best digital hybrid viewfinder ever made.

Having switched to L mount some time ago, I still use mFT as a small and light second system. But for this purpose, the G9 II is too large for me. Just got the OM-5 with 20mm f1.4 pro for a very good price as a small and weather sealed outdoor, carry everywhere camera. Would like to see a renewal of the GX8 both / either as a full frame and / or mFT camera, but talking to a representative of Panasonic, there seems to be little hope.

And pocket 3? 😊

Thanks--I always appreciate your thoughtful, comprehensive, objective reviews. With regard to your comment about no "alternative" 24-70 EFL f/2.8 in MFT, what about the Leica 12-35mm f/2.8 (which you use in your review)? I don't see a significant advantage for "FF" there (or in most cases, at least for my use, which does not emphasize portraiture or video, both of which MFT handles very well). Interestingly, as a long-time G9 ("I") user who got into MFT specifically for the ability to carry a full range of glass (12-800 EFL, thanks to the "Mk I" verion of the Leica 100-400) in a compact, lightweight kit, I'm considering not only adding the G9 II but maybe the S5 II to even further enhance low-light/moving subject capabilities. However, I get excellent results with that lens (I'm not sure that it's worth replacing it or my 35-100mm f/2.8 with the new versions of those lenses), so that's not an issue for me. It's hard to justify carrying another system just for the rare cases where the "FF" sensor help improve a marginal shot. If I were new to MFT, I'd very likely go for the G9 II with the Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 and and 9mm f/1.7 as there's an incredible deal right now (for the US anyway) at B&H for all three at US$2,500, but I already have those FLs covered.

You’ve got stabilisation down twice in the timeline above.

Aren't you forgetting the excellent 10-25 and 25-50mm F1.7 zooms for M43 here? You keep saying that there is no alternative(in terms of light gathering) for a Full Frame standard zoom F2.8, but there kinda is. Not exactly the same, but close anyway. Other then that, nice review!

What about the 10-25 f1.7?

Thx for you review…I use the last pana generation like you said so S5org for more challenging condition low light etc…and Gh5,5s for longer focal range. Personally I will probably buy one Panasonic S5iiX and wait till all my other camera get really old…GH5 image is still ok but tend to age bad…on the other hand GH5s and my P4K can still produce great image. S5 org is comparable to the S5iiX some are saying less digital just it lacks solid AF awe all know… Shooting mostly multicam live event…almost no photos…

But the cost of FF lenses keep me with m4/3. Plus size/weight. There are trade offs.

Nice comparison. I disagree with a couple of points regarding video and stabilization. The G9ii does 5.7k60p, 4k120p and FHD 300p all without crop in comparison with cropped 4k60p on the S5II/X. And you get much better rolling shutter on the G9ii. The stabilization is probably pretty similar on both cameras unless you go to longer focal lengths than 100mm FF eq. But when you go wider than 24mm the wobble on the S5II is more apparent. And the G9II also corrects for the wide angle wobble with its electronic stabilization now. So I would conclude that if you shoot lot of slow motion, the G9II is a better camera and the stabilization is better.

14:09 so… 24~70 FF in MFT isn’t close enough?

One omission you missed was that the G9 II supports 4k 120p for video, and unfortunately the S5 II does not. A great comparison nonetheless!

I thought getting G9II was a sure thing for me but then I saw that the new one is missing a top screen. Hmmm.... I don't know

Elephants in the room. I would hop on the S5II since it fits my sensibilities better if I was switching.

When M3/4 grow in size ,it lost the charm of compactness & weight saving . otherwise its a great cam . Contrary,Sony pack a lrg 61mp into their compact cam model ,wow ,it opens up manufacture make more compact lens ,as what Olympus used to be when they start m3/4.While Nikon Canon goes different route .Bigger body , smaller sensor , claims it's as good,even professional?Also Iphone claims a professional too

Interesting, m43 sensor in G9Ii has ssme pixels density as 100 Mpix full frame (which doesn't exist). So those, now very old m43 lenses are really sharp 🤔

Panansonic done the great job with both. What I'd LOVE to have is an ability to use lenses from one system on camera of another. I know this is impossible due to their flange range difference, yet that would be really nice.

THS in the past I've been critical of some of your videos--and will not apologize--but this review is smart, helpful, & very fair minded. Thanks for sharing.

How would you say the detail and digital quality look compared to the GH6 for example? Personally, I find my GH6 a lot more smooth and organic than my S5ii in many situations

5:55 To get a full frame f/2.8 standard zoom on an M43, we need to adapt the EF mount Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 and pair it with a Metabones/Viltrox 0.71X speedbooster to get a 25.5-50mm f/2.55 full frame equivalent zoom. A bit short than a full frame 24-70mm f/2.8, but it's close enough in my book.

If your never going to shoot events in lowlight at high iso then the G9mkII would be a great choice.

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I prefer left handed front function buttons (guitarist nails), + the right hand already has too much to do…

I use M4/3rds for macro photography because the 60mm F2.8 Olympus macro is the best macro lens on the market and the light weight lenses of M4/3rd are a benefit when shooting macro, so as to avoid camera movement. When I do product photography, I use a Full Frame camera because of the benefits of a bigger sensor, and camera shake isn't an issue because I shoot my product photography on a tripod.

Alles in allem, reicht eine mft locker aus für jeden Hobbyfotografen, der nicht viel Geld mit sich rum tragen mag, der leichter sein will, und nicht Vollprofimäßig seinen Lebensunterhalt mit Fotos verdient

Panasonic has updated the Panasonic Gh5 and Panasonic G9 wuth the Panasonic Gh5 2 and Panasonic G9 2 they only need to update the Panasonic GH5S with a Panasonic GH5S 2. Also they need to update the Panasonic S1H and Panasonic S1 and Panasonic S1R

Who else also come to here to see photos of Bratislava?

Just ordered the 9mm f1.7 myself, can’t wait to get into my local churches 😀

Howabout a 24-45 f/1.1? A speedbooster on M43 makes this possible and for video there's nothing like it on FF. I'm also surprised you didn't touch on how the G9ii removes wide lens wobble.

The Sigma 16 f1.4 on this G9II is the bomb (i have one on my Gh6 ) I shoot Panasonic S5 all day long (2 of them for multi cam - 1 has the 70-200 f 4 the other the Panasonic 24-70 f2.8 ) - a fantastic combo! But... fast lenses on M43 (voigtlander 25 f .095 / Simga 18-35 ) really do make the gap almost non existant. The Laowa 15 on M43 deliver great non crop 4k 50 for real estate conclusion: If you can afford it you need 2 x S5 series with proper lenses (NOT WITH THE CRAPPY KIT LENSE OPTIONS) + 1 M43 G9 / GH6 + fast glass ) for a complete production solution. And then drones, mics, soft box lighting, gimbals, 2 x tripods and a reliable car.

Panasonic does essentially have a dedicated photo video mode. It’s just kind of quirky. Look into creative video combine set please! Everyone says they don’t have this feature yet they do. 😊

why no one tells about S5II 1080 50-60p af switch to dfd(FF mode)

G9II has a BSI non-stacked sensor confirmed by LUMIX channel

Not gonna lie, calling the 12-35 2.8 the “best and brightest” standard zooms feels weird with the 10-25 being much more along the lines of the quality and performance of a full frame 24-70. I know it’s an atypical focal length but it’s still within the standard range

When are people going to stop spreading misinformation about dynamic range and noise performance when comparing sensor sizes? Assuming similar technology, the differences have nothing to do with sensor sizes, but are almost totally a function of lens sizes. A full frame lens takes in about four times the amount of light as an MFT lens at the same aperture size, which, assuming the same pixel count like in this video's comparison, means that each full frame sensor pixel gets roughly four times the amount of light as the corresponding MFT pixel.

I dont see the benefit of M43 when its the same weight/size as a full frame for $100 less. This camera should be $1000

G9 has 4k 120. no s5 can do this

G9II is a massive dissapointment. A reskinned, recycled FF body, designed to be the cheapest and most cost effective camera Panasonic could release to milk what little is left of MFT. I find it grossly insuling that the "flagship" MFT camera shares the same body with the entry level FF. NO THANK YOU!