panellogy 147 - european comics

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7 жыл бұрын

I show and talk more or less briefly about: Blotch (by Blutch), Nach Paris / Revoir Paris Vol.2 (drawn by Francois Schuiten, written by Benoit Peeters), Corto Maltese, "Under the midnight sun" (drawn by Ruben Pellejero, written by Juan Diaz Canales), Ringo Vol.2 (drawn by William Vance), Little Tulip (drawn by Fr. Boucq, written by J.Charyn), Trigan (drawn by Don Lawrence), A mysterious melody (by Cosey), Zombies (drawn by Sophian Cholet, written by Olivier Peru), Die Druiden / the druids (drawn by Jacques Lamontagne, written by Jean-Luc Istin & Thierry Jigourel), Detektei Hardy / detective agency Hardy (drawn by Annie Goetzinger, written by Pierre Christin).
NBM has or will translate one book of Annie Goetzinger "A girl in Dior" or sth like that (I haven't read that one). "The Zombies" will be put out in an English translation in April by some unknown publisher. "Little Tulip" is available in English right now (from Dover) and I'm pretty sure that the 13th Corto Maltese will be as well sooner or later.

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@Aki-or9gi 4 жыл бұрын

You have an incredible collection, and an encyclopaedic knowledge of all aspects of comics, too!

@JaredOsborn 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent! I always like to see stuff that I hardly ever get to see. I bought a bunch of European comics in the early 1990s when Catalan and NBM brought them over but hardly any since.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

thanks... NBM has or will translate one book of Annie Goetzinger "A girl in Dior" or sth like that (I haven't read that one). "The Zombies" will be put out in an English translation in April by some unknown publisher. "Little Tulip" is available in English right now and I'm pretty sure that the 13th Corto Maltese will be as well sooner or later.

@sensoji3084 7 жыл бұрын

Great video; we need more exposure to European comics. That Annie Goetzinger, art, for example, is amazing. Not heard of her before this :)

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

and she's around for a long time... some of her stuff dates back into the early 80s, maybe even earlier. What I like about her style is (as cheesy as it may sounds) the female quality of her drawings. You can see that a woman drew this, no man could or would draw like that. A bit similar to the art of Trina Robbins.

@michaelrobertson-author6439 7 жыл бұрын

Nice collection! I like the look of a lot of them.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

thanks

@WaltsComicBookChannel 7 жыл бұрын

Great vid as always. I am also very much enjoying Trigan (bought and read the first two volumes) but would fail to explain why, exactly. It's soooo corny but somehow addictive.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

it's an isotonic comic... goes right into your blood - circumventing higher brainfunctions in a safe distance.

@forgerelli1 7 жыл бұрын

FYI: The English version of "Devils Mouth" by Boucq & Charyn is called Billy Budd KGB. Same guys did Little Tulip and The Magicians Wife. Excellent stuff published by Dover.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

yes, thanks, I'll add this on the message beneath the video.

@frederikvandaele6374 5 жыл бұрын

William sure is missed, but we have his work to enjoy. Thanks for doing these

@earlgrey862 5 жыл бұрын

William Vance, Annie Goetzinger and Moebius ... three European comic greats, hope they have a beer or two together in comic book heaven

@tolga_berk 3 жыл бұрын

Ordered Druids (in 3 Trades) and the Zombies (in Hardcover). Found also an interesting book "Wrath Of Fantomas by Olivier Bouquet". Not sure if you have reviewed it. Thank you for your great reviews!!!

@daniel881985 7 жыл бұрын

So many great books you showed there! Besides Trigan and Corto Maltese I didn't knew any of them, just saw some of the covers here and there. My card says I'm interested in 7 of them :P Would love to start collecting the Maltese Klassik-Edition by S&L but I missed out on the first volume and it's super expensive now.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

the 13th Corto is my only one from S&L... the others I got and will get from IDW, beautiful books with nice paper (which was more important for me than to get the German translation instead), and I guess they're all still available. ... I made a video about them btw.

@daniel881985 7 жыл бұрын

I didn't received a tag for your answer, sorry. Of course I watched your video for Maltese and that's also where I first heard about the IDW editions. I thought I'll go for S&L because they're Hardcover and releasing more often than it seems with IDW. But since the 1 is OOP I may go for the IDW now ..

@LambdaJM 7 жыл бұрын

I do love the Splitter Editions. I got Alex Alice "Siegfried" three part retelling of the Nibelung Sage recently and I adore them.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

yes, they have a lot of great titles... even though they are not all up my alley

@LambdaJM 7 жыл бұрын

yes even to me they are only part of the comic equation. I am not buying only Splitter ;-) Although I stick strictly to German translations and/or publishers, but this is just a crazy idea of mine to support the German comic Market and publishers.

@russworks2882 7 жыл бұрын

The first sight I ever had of Philippe Druillet was in Graphis Magazine, a special issue on comics that was later expanded to a hardcover book, with Umberto Eco as one of the editors. Eco was known as a professor of art and writer on semiotics. Druillet eventually did poster art for The Name of the Rose, a wonderful film. I highly recommend Eco's semi-autobiographical novel The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana, which is about an amnesiac rare book dealer who tries to reconstruct his memory by going back to his childhood entertainments, the comics and pulps he read as a kid in Mussolini's Italy. It's heavily illustrated with artifacts from the era, lovely old comics and lurid bizarre material that may be more familiar to European eyes than it was to me. It shows how even the most trivial art, if encountered when the soul hungers for escape, can grip you profoundly and never let go.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

ah, Eco is one of the authors I always have wanted to read more of his stuff but never have come around to do it. I have read "the name of the rose" obviously and it's excellent. That Druillet connection is interesting.

@onibudiono 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for bringing the explenation in english...as an indonesian it helps me to understand german comic scene.cheers #yellowcap_guy

@earlgrey862 3 жыл бұрын

it's one of my greatest pleasures to think of all the places of the world in which my little videos are watched... it's mindboggling

@Xbale 7 жыл бұрын

Wow cool stuff that u got there. The Mickey Mouse Book looks really interesting and I wanted to buy a few of these 10th Anniversary books from splitter.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

these Splitter-anniversary books are pretty magnificent, even though not every one of the selected comics is worthy of such a presentation in my opinion (Robin Ausdemwald for an example)

@Xbale 7 жыл бұрын

Btw have you seen these Mickey Books by Trondheim and I think there was another one by Loisel. They look pretty cool. Especially this Loisel book kinda reminds me of Floyd Gottfredson's amazing works. Ever read?

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

no... even though I would like to take a look into a Mickey Book by Trondheim or Loisel (I don't know Floyd Gottfredson) I don't have to own such a book. Different thing if they did a Donald book

@Xbale 7 жыл бұрын

I have to admit that I am no huge fan of the newer Mickey Comics. They are quite cringy in a way. But I adore Floyd Gottfredson. Have you ever seen these "Ich Mickey Mouse, Ich Donald Duck or something else books" that Melzer once published. They are damn recommendable. Huge oversized books with great artwork and a lot of history and background information. Each book does have really much information about the character as well. It's worth checking out and you can get'em for very cheap. And even if you don't like Mickey in such a format, there are still some barks stories. (Classics like "Lost in the Andes!").

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

Yes I think I have one of these or better: my kids... must be somewhere between those Legoboxes :/

@mindthecomics 7 жыл бұрын

Hello, Earl Grey. What a nice selection of books. One common point to most of them seems to be the time displaced or epoque scenario, which I'm always very fond of, especially when there's a true care put in the garments, machinery and what not. I'm looking forward to the Corto Maltese, the art seems extremely close to Pratt (the continuing of classic series by new authors can be such a hit or miss... I like Blake & Mortimer with art by Benoit but dislike it when drawn by Juillard) Little Tulip looks especially interesting. I wouldn´t call myself a hardcore Cosey fan, but i'm a fan nonetheless and the Mickey book seems very cool. Cheers Gus

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

yes, obviously I like comics that deal in/with a specific historic setting like you, even though I am a bit picky... and esp. "The druids" book did some mistakes in my opinion in trying to create a bigger than life scenario... some of the buildings and settings are too exaggerated to be close to any possible reality that could had ever been. As to Corto... I am sceptic with these continuations as well. I'm curios if this will read as good as it looks. And actually I'm no hardcore fan of Cosey neither... at least not anymore (there was a time when I considered Cosey to be my favorite comic artist, but that was pretty long ago). But like you, I'm still a fan enough to shell out 15 Euros for a (too) short bliss of nostalgic comic pleasure.

@laserduchamp8071 7 жыл бұрын

Trigan looks fun, space spaghetti is always good

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

yes, esp. when it's served with a thick layer of seasoned cheese

@trejosam00 7 жыл бұрын

Nach means to? The first book looks very interesting. The zombie book looks interesting as well but as you said the colors don't look great. On another note I picked up the 25 cent issue of walking dead and I didn't know that was in black and white. I didn't like the look of it either.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

"nach" means both: "to" as in "towards a place" or it can mean "after" in a chronological sense. The walking dead has been in black, white and grey from the beginning... with the exception of some special variant single issues in color. It took some time, but the art of Adlard has grown on me.

@FluffyKittenofMordor 7 жыл бұрын

Are there any news on Peeters and Schuiten's next project? I'm dying to get my hands on more of their works after Revoir Paris tome 2. I have seven of their books so far. I think I might actually learn German for Trigan...there hasn't been an English reprint in years and the ones on Amazon literally go for a few hundred bucks!

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

For news about Sch.&P. you can maybe consult altaplana dot be. Ha! maybe go the whole way and learn Dutch instead to be able to read the original version of Trigan :) But seriously, the idea is not so absurd as it may seems. Buy maybe just one of the Splitter-editions of Storm or one of the Panini-editions of Trigan and see if you can enjoy the story just going by the pictures... especially the gist of an average Triganstory should be comprehensible without understanding any word.

@FluffyKittenofMordor 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give it a try. And I really hope Schuiten does another project before he retires! No news so far :(

@jaykolkata 5 жыл бұрын

My comment is not about one of the book you reviewed here. But I need your help in this. What is your thoughts on "Peter Pan " by Regis Loisel ? I am planning go buy this book but couldn't find any decent review of this. Comics are pretty costly around here , so I have to be picky with my choice . Thanks for the great video again.

@earlgrey862 5 жыл бұрын

I read Peter Pan in single European albums, I've liked it so far, but never bought the last albums... I lost interest because they published it over some years and there were big breaks between them. It's a nice reimagining of the old story, some say it's an "adult" version, just because tinkerbell is drawn a bit sexier than usual, I don't know. I guess it depends on whether you like Loisel's fluid drawing style which never clicked with me 100% for whatever reasons, maybe it's even too perfect to the point of being a bit kitschy (but definitely not disney-kitschy)... but that's just me & since I'd read it a looong time ago: it's the me from almost three decades ago

@comicpassion6168 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a bit late with commenting on this vid.. I love european comics, especially from artists like Marini, Van Hamme, Vance and Rosiński. For me the european comic, which really offers some impressive art and story telling aswell, is often underrated. Just my 2 cents.. Great video, i like your collection and ofcourse your channel, man. Subscribed a long time ago.

@earlgrey862 5 жыл бұрын

better late than never, thanks ... I don't know if European comics are underrated, because there's quite a broad appreciation for European artists ... at least according to the comments whenever I review something from over here.

@comicpassion6168 5 жыл бұрын

@@earlgrey862 by underrated i mean, that the vast majority of comic readers especially in germany, just sticks to mainstream superheroes from Marvel and DC.. So it is a pleasure to watch videos from another german, who also reads or better presents more than the random comictuber, who talks about comics. No offense, i like Marvel aswell, that are my comic reading roots but there is quite a lot more, even besides the us independent stuff, what the comicworld can offer to a reader.

@mehernoshtarapore8902 7 жыл бұрын

the new milo manara carvagio is good pick it up.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

thanks for the recommendation... but there are some repetitive elements in his style and stories that are a bit exhausting, so before I'll pick up a new Manara I will reread some of the old ones that are gracing my shelves already.

@jonanjello 7 жыл бұрын

I like the art of Blutch and there are a couple of Blutch books I’d like to purchase, but the cover of one of them, So Long Tinseltown, just terrible. I refuse to buy it. The other book, Peplum, seems a bit strange in its narrative and I’ll probably purchase it at a sale price. The Schuiten Peeters book looks amazing. I hope Ringo eventually see an English version. Little Tulip’s artwork looks similar to Francois Boucq’s. Some of the Mysterious Melody outdoor panels remind me of Jeff Smith’s Bone Detektei Hardy art is beautiful. The paper sounds fantastic too!

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

do you mean "So long silver screen"?... yeah, that looks pretty awkward - judging by the look of it on my monitor. Little Tulip IS from Boucq. Ha! "This is the souuund of fresh comic books" (Etanick)

@Christof_Classen 7 жыл бұрын

6:10 hmm, sind wir Zwillinge ?, das ist auch mein erstes Trigancomic (vom Gevacur Verlag) das ich las und an das ich mich bis heute noch ziemlich genau erinnern kann, gerade die roten Gewächse sind mir regelrecht in mein Gehirn gebrannt worden und ich weiß auch noch genau wo ich das las, bei meiner Oma als ich dort mal übernachtet hatte, was ich zu der Zeit öfters tat, da mir meine Oma immer schön Sachen kaufte, wie das Comic oder die damals beliebten japanischen Sci-Fi Spielzeuge und Lego & Playmobil ;) Mann muss sich das mal vorstellen, bevor ich Captain Future das erste mal sah, da las ich schon Trigan was kurz davor erschien #;) Das war noch die Zeit von Klimbim und Co. Erstaunlich dieser Zufall mit diesem Trigancomic welches mich sogar erst angefixt hat Comics richtig zu lesen, so hatte mich das damals in den Bann gezogen. Welches Baujahr bist du ?, ich vom 10 August 1967, geboren in Oldenburg in Holstein und jetzt lebend in Hamburg, nicht dass man uns vertauscht hat und anderen Eltern unterjubelte ;) Du magst fast alle Comics die ich auch gut finde und jetzt das mit diesem Trigancomic, Sachen gibts, echt unglaublich ;) Sag bloß noch du liebst die japanische Kultur (und Samuraifilme) und dein Leibgericht ist Spaghetti mit viiiieeel Hacksoße und reichlich Reibekäse oben drauf ;)

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

naja, was die Samuraifilme angeht muss ich Dich entäuschen, aber der Rest kommt mir doch sehr bekannt vor. Außerdem bin ich deutlichst jünger als Du, Heiligabend 67, das sind... lass mich rechnen... doch einige Tage weiter weg vom Grabe! Und was die verlorenen Zwillinge angeht, da habe ich über meinen Kanal schon eine ganze Reihe von kennengelernt, verteilt über den ganzen Globus :) Aber dass ich mittlerweile in der Nähe von Hamburg wohne, gibt mir dann doch zu denken...

@arthurtripp6922 2 жыл бұрын

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@chuyramires5937 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent channel, please show us your mangas!

@earlgrey862 4 жыл бұрын

tja... If I had some... besides Akira and (thanks to Forgerelli) Lone wolf and cub & one or two others

@chuyramires5937 4 жыл бұрын

@@earlgrey862 geniale! Go for shintaro Kago, suehiro Maruo AND Junji ito. The unholy triad.

@sleepyreader666 7 жыл бұрын

The question of how long is taken on comics is interesting. Some of these books look beautiful, others the art seem stiff and over rendered, and maybe could have used a bit of demand for looseness of a "rushed" drawing...but maybe i'm just a prisoner of American style comics.

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

This stack was of course by no means a true cross section of European comics. It was rather a sample of stuff that I found interesting. For an example there's nothing of that looser franco-belgian "funny" stuff (which I am not too much a fan of... generally speaking... ). But yes, I can see the point, that some creators maybe want to achieve too much on one page.

@sleepyreader666 7 жыл бұрын

Just pondering the issue of time taken on things...my observations based on glances at your video should be far from the final word. I think of the frequently coming out Brubaker and Philips comics such as the great Fade Out and the current Kill or be Killed and I wonder if giving the artist more time would be a good thing...and I'm uncertain...though I know I like getting the floppies on a frequent schedule. But another artist I really appreciate tremendously is Frank Quietly, who is very slow by english language comics' standards and I wouldn't want to break the magic by forcing him to keep up the "normal" production pace.... There's also a question of whether writers should take their time, if then they would avoid cliche and stock plot gimmicks more often...hmmm...

@earlgrey862 7 жыл бұрын

another thing is the economic pressure that builds up if one does only one comic per year or less. It simply HAS to be successful. And this pressure can lead to over-rendering (which you have adressed) or to unnecessary up-sexing (if that's an actual word) like in this book about the last days of the druids. I guess you wrote it in another comment a while ago: Having more time does not inevitably mean to have more freedom. Anyhow, the European comic publishers don't have actually the choice to speed up their production, because all in all the European comic market is very probably much smaller than the American one. And I'm really enjoying to come back to "my" European comics once in a while after indulging mainly in American comics the last couple of years.

@sleepyreader666 7 жыл бұрын

I guess it was always breadth of subject matter and the larger album format that impressed me in my glimpses of European work--we've always been told that the French market is larger than the US one, though. In recent years the US/English language market seems to have expanded quite a bit in the breadth of subject matter--but the drive for a story that goes on forever has had some noticeable weaknesses, in some cases...