Me too - it's wickedness on stilts!

Jesus died for the world, even unbelievers. Because the entity that humans agreed to it's laws, 10 commandments, and 613 levitical laws, could not be overcome. Jesus did, and the entity humans thought was God...was satan...Have fun kids!

Mmhm, the "J.C" we must listen to is not John Calvin, a mere man, but Lord and God Jesus Christ

​@@NikoFinn 🎉

Yep!!!

And we all know who the author of confusion is - JM just loves to sow those seeds of doubt & confusion!

Exactly - Trent

Great point about the cupcakes bring for everyone, BUT a greater point would be to remember that the cupcakes have to be the SAME cupcakes for the preschool class kids to choose from. For example all chocolate with vanilla icing, etc.😊

Well said

@@user-he9qp4zv6q sounds like you like cupcakes 😋 And oh yes they would all be equal or that wouldn’t be fair. And besides the kids would point out that someone got a better cupcake or different one than they did, believe me 😂😂

@@Smerm Hey. I want some cupcakes. Looks like I need to make a trip to Publix bakery.

@@magicalmike3629 😂😋

Agreed!!! I reckon there's lots of big names that are actually working for the enemy.

I watch another video which totally caught calvanist preachers lying. It seems to be a pattern in calvanism to justify their weak case. They also use so much word salad and big wording it makes them seem educated. But I find it to be nonsense.

To say someone is lying is a very serious accusation. Even if it's only your opinion. God seriously warns and commands not to make false accusations. If you think anyone is lying, God says you better have proof and witnesses. It would be better for you to say that you disagree with what MacArthur is saying than to say that he's lying. Accusations of someone lying is extremely serious. Don't use that term so flippantly. It's not flippant.

@@denniscrumbley8274 there's no way he thinks the world means the chosen

@@kaioken654 Agreed. All Calvinists teach a false Gospel. They are all liars.

​@@getrit3007Amen

I don't think so, I think HE thinks he is so theologically sound that he doesn't interpret anything wrong.

Praise the Lord! God bless you and your ministry also. - Trent

Yep. & hard for me to believe so many in the body of Christ can't see the difference between his Calvinism & scripture. Compare Matthew 11:28-30, John 3:17, Luke 9:56, Acts 17:26-31, Romans 5:18 & 10:11-13, Titus 2:11, 1 John 2:2 & Revelation 22:17 with Calvinism (Only a random pre-chosen some will irresistibly turn to Christ, consequently all others have been arbitrarily preordained to destruction by God's divine decree??)

The Devil is the most popular of all!!! Narrow is the gate!!!

So is Justin Peters, another Calvinist.

@f.r.ashley1317 yep, Read his statement of faith on his website Justin Peters Ministries.

Amen!

How is calvinism "another gospel?" Show me where any calvinist teaches anything but salvation by grace through faith in the person and work of Christ.

@@johntrevett2944 Ya, that's the conundrum. They have "Saved by faith alone in Christ" in their system. But unfortunately, they teach: Only a random pre-chosen some will irresistibly turn to Christ, consequently all others have been arbitrarily preordained to destruction by God's divine decree.

@@johntrevett2944 Grace is NOT afforded to all in Calvinism

@@mikelyons2831 Election is always to salvation, never damnation. Only human logic/philosophy teaches that, not scripture. It's called double predestination and that's unbiblical.

Thank you!! - Trent

Agreed. Thanks for sticking clear to the gospel Gregg. - Trent

Contextually, there are multiple options, but I believe a comparison of scripture is required to have the full understanding. If you stuck to Matthew 20 you have these options: 1) Gentiles 2) The multitude 3) His disciples It’s not really defined because his intent is answering the question about sitting at his right side. John 3, 1 John 2 and other scriptures make it clear that he died for all… Perhaps also the term many is emphasizing the need for them to live subservient to others for the sake of the kingdom… - Trent

I see what you’re saying, but it’s still making it out as though Jesus didn’t atone for the sin of the unbeliever. He did atone fully for their sin, but it isn’t applied to their account unless they believe in Him. Romans 3:22, 4:5, 1 John 2:2, John 3:18 - Trent

And, PRIDE!

I disagree and only Christ sees the heart. I would be careful in trying to claim to know who and who isn't saved, especially when they teach salvation by grace through faith alone. I would also suggest many in the free grace/decisionism crowd think they are good and don't actually know Him.

He's at the front of that line!!!

Someone who has made a decision to believe in Christ , His death, His burial, His resurrection, would not be standing on the promise of Matthew 7:21-23. They'd be resting in the promises of John 5:24, John 3:18, John 3:36,.

Agreed until you mentioned “repent from sin.” There is no changing, turning or objecting to sin that is required to be saved. Jesus paid the sin debt, so you need to “repent” - change your mind - and believe in Christ. Unbelief to belief - yes. - Trent

Surely we will do a video on him one day! If you want to send one in, email it to questions@biblelineministries.org - Trent

@@BibleLine *My man!!! 👊🏾 Thank you sir.*

Yesssssssss

The same assurance you have. If you believe and see the fruit of His work in you then you have assurance. How else does anyone have it? God promised us, that’s good enough for me.?

The point regarding loving Jacob and hating Esau was not with regards to their salvation. God's choosing is not that of choosing who is saved and who is not saved. His choosing is with regards to who he uses for His purpose. It is dependent upon man's choices. Esau obviously chose what he chose, and he forfeited the birthright. God did not make that happen and therefore not pay for Esau's sin. All fornicators like Esau must be in hell according to that theology. David and Solomon included - we know this is not true! - Trent

You know you’re “elect” if you have believed in Jesus Christ. I KNOW I’m saved… 1 John 5:13 “that ye may know that ye have eternal life…” This is why we share the gospel with everyone… it’s “unto all and upon all them that believe.” The problem is JMac will extrapolate to the falsity that one can “know” they are saved by their continued good deeds…. - Trent

We often try our best to steer clear of degrading the individual. We truly see it more profitable (and easier to reach the person) if we attack the teaching, words and doctrine over the person. There are moments where these men just say nonsense, and we have called them out, but we never attack their character. We do not try anyway. We are fallible. - Trent

We’ve done that a couple times, but Pastor Jesse interjects where he sees fit. It’s all a one take, minus a few cuts. I try my best to engage the viewer with the editing. Thanks - Trent

The Good Shepherd | Calvary of Tampa with Pastor Jesse Martinez kzfaq.infosGzbDZe5fgQ?feature=share

He died for all sin, but not all sinners believe. Roman’s 3:22, 1 John 2:2 - Trent

@@BibleLine totally agree

Because those people sinned and refused to accept bt faith the Good News about Jesus, they did not believe it. They hardened their own hearts when God drew them to His Son. At some point they were beyond reach and the only destinatiom for those unbelievers was hellfire

@@NikoFinnso they had unbelief in there hearts? Is unbelief a sin? And if so did Jesus die for the sin of unbelief?

Jesus died for all sin, but the payment has to be accepted. That sin is covered, but the requirement is to believe in Jesus that he did die for your sin. The unbeliever need only believe one time to possess eternal life immediately. You are trying to account for the love of God and hell. In reality Calvinism is more egregious in that God sends people to hell in spite of any belief or unbelief. There is no true free will in Calvinism, and that “God” is a monster. The one and true God died for ALL sin of the whole world (1 John 2:2), doesn’t want anyone to perish (2 Peter 3:9) and opens up the gift to anyone (John 3:16-18). The reason a person goes to hell is because they NEVER believed. Notice John 3:18 - they are condemned because they “hath not believed…” - Trent

@@keithm1689 Check out @BibleLine'd comment for that

@@BibleLine if Jesus's death is a substitutionary atonement, satisfying the wrath of the Father, did Jesus fail to satisfy the wrath of God for a person who is in hell? Why would the only innocent and righteousness man who ever walked on the earth pay for the sins of an unbeliever who is going to pay for his own sins for eternity? Was there double payment?

Yes! Paul Washer, RC Sproul, John Piper and etc… - Trent

@BibleLine what about A Stanley?

@@BibleLine I don’t know much about Calvinist teachers. I was primarily a Wesleyan. Armenians believe that it’s not sinning but leaving the faith or renouncing faith that causes the believer to walk away from salvation, lose it. But There’s also a teaching that you can sin away your day of grace and even if you want to get saved you can’t. Some have reformed that latter point. But try bring me under that, what a nightmare I always thought Calvinism was more generous in that regard

So what does “God is sovereign in salvation mean?” I know that God made a sovereign decision to save those who believe. So how exactly is he not sovereign in the salvation of those who believe? Romans 8:39 - 30 does not say what you say it does. It says that that those he foreknew he predestined to the adoption of sons. Nowhere in this verse does it say before the foundation of the world God elected some for salvation. Galatians makes it clear that we were not known of God prior to being in Christ. Gal 4: 8 - Howbeit then*, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. 9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? It says it in so many words. Now are we known of God, not prior to being in Christ. Ephesians 2 makes it clear that we were children of wrath prior to being in Christ, and only when God raised us to life in Christ did relationship with him begin, not prior. God predestined those in Christ to the adoption of sons. What is the adoption of sons? Verse 23 of Romans 8 explains: 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. There it is, the adoption is the redemption of the body. Believers are predestined to the redemption of the body. 1 John 3: 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. That is what all believers in Christ are predestined to receive. How exactly did you come up with the idea that people hate Calvinism because “they hate that they are not in control.” In control of what? Here is something you may not have heard before. Many people hate Calvinism because they find it to be a blasphemous, God dishonoring doctrine, that is not supported in scripture. They hate it because it is so blatantly contradictory, and requires a major suspension of sense making to accept it. I personally have no delusions that I contribute to my salvation. I do however accept that before God does the saving, I must believe. Then and only then does God save. My believing is a totally separate act to the saving that God alone does, which is a separate action to my believing. You may not agree with me but I hope you get it.

As a non-Calvinist, there is freedom in Christ. I CHOSE to believe the Gospel, that's salvation. It's also my choice to follow Christ or not to follow Him after salvation, that's discipleship.

God clearly chose Israel but they constantly rejected Him. Please address the video and not just rant about the haters. For the record I hate false teaching but not the teacher. Eternity is a long time to be wrong

Typical calvanist has to argue and debate everything. Christ died for ALL and gave us free will to choose him. God doesn't make junk and throw half away and only have some in heaven.

Romans 8:29-30 tells us, “For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.” Ephesians 1:5 and 11 declare, “He predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will…In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will.” Many people have a strong hostility to the doctrine of predestination. However, predestination is a biblical doctrine. The key is understanding what predestination means, biblically. The words translated “predestined” in the Scriptures referenced above are from the Greek word proorizo, which carries the meaning of “determining beforehand,” “ordaining,” “deciding ahead of time.” So, predestination is God determining certain things to occur ahead of time. What did God determine ahead of time? According to Romans 8:29-30, God predetermined that certain individuals would be conformed to the likeness of His Son, be called, justified, and glorified. Numerous scriptures refer to believers in Christ being chosen (Matthew 24:22, 31; Mark 13:20, 27; Romans 8:33, 9:11, 11:5-7, 28; Ephesians 1:11; Colossians 3:12; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 1 Timothy 5:21; 2 Timothy 2:10; Titus 1:1; 1 Peter 1:1-2, 2:9; 2 Peter 1:10). Predestination is the biblical doctrine that God in His sovereignty chooses certain individuals to be saved. Predestination is an explicitly biblical doctrine. Yet the determination of predestination is not disconnected from the rest of God’s unchanging character (Malachi 3:6). It is connected to His foreknowledge (Romans 8:29, 11:2), His love (Ephesians 1:4-5), and His plan and pleasure (Ephesians 1:5). God’s desire is that all would be saved and come to repentance (1 Timothy 2:4, 2 Peter 3:9). Predestination is personal and relational, not capricious. The most common objection to the doctrine of predestination is that it is unfair. Why would God choose certain individuals and not others? We must remember that no one deserves to be saved. We have all sinned (Romans 3:23) and are all worthy of eternal punishment (Romans 6:23). As a result, God would be perfectly just in allowing all of us to spend eternity in hell. However, God chooses to save some of us. He is not being unfair to those who are not chosen, because they are receiving what they deserve. God’s choosing to be gracious to some is not unfair to the others. No one deserves anything from God; therefore, no one can object if he does not receive anything from God. An illustration would be a man randomly handing out money to five people in a crowd of twenty. Would the fifteen people who did not receive money be upset? Probably so. Do they have a right to be upset? No, they do not. Why? Because the man did not owe anyone money. He simply decided to be gracious to some. If God is choosing who is saved, doesn’t that undermine our free will to choose and believe in Christ? The Bible says that we have the choice-all who believe in Jesus Christ will be saved (John 3:16; Romans 10:9-10). The Bible never describes God rejecting anyone who believes in Him or turning away anyone who is seeking Him (Deuteronomy 4:29). The truths of God’s sovereign predestination and also man’s responsibility are not mutually exclusive. Somehow, in the mystery of God, predestination works hand-in-hand with a person being drawn by God (John 6:44) and believing unto salvation (Romans 1:16). God predestines who will be saved, and we must choose Christ in order to be saved. Both facts are equally true. Romans 11:33 proclaims, “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!”

Great scriptures, but none make the case for limited atonement…. - Trent

​@@BibleLine. It might be that you haven't heard the effective call from God to make Jesus the Lord and savior of your life, and you are still a slave of your sin of free will. Making yourself the sovereign decider of your eternal destiny instead of humbly kneeling before the thone of God saying ; No Lord not my will, but may your will be done, because my will is always to sin. Create in me a new heart o Lord. Praying for you that you may come to the knowlege of the truth.

Scripture never says “Effective call from God…” “Sovereign decider of eternal destiny…” “Kneel before the throne of God…” - to be saved. I have believed in Jesus Christ as my Savior. He didn’t make me or choose me to believe. I freely chose to believe, and He gave me His righteousness. Romans 4:5. - Trent

But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. - Psalm 115:3 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, Romans 9:11 Yes God calls his people. and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. - Romans 8:30 Just as it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. - Romans 9:13-16 If God is not sovereign over all things then He is not God. So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” On the contrary, who are you, o man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? - Romans 9:18-21 Jesus died for his people only. She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” - Matthew 1:21 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. - John 10:14-16 Who are those that don't believe that Jesus died for His sheep only? But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” - John 10:26-30 I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours; - John 17:9. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for here - Ephesians 5:25 To deny these truths is to make God a lier. And to leave salvation to man's will is to make Christ's sacrifice useless, because in his sinful nature can by no means come to God with a repented and contrite heart. There is none who understands, There is none who seeks for God; All have turned aside, together they have become useless; There is none who does good, There is not even one.” - Romans 3:11-12

@navigatoruscg8499 so is easy believeism.

@navigatoruscg8499 You're wonder thank you so much for pointing out that I misspelled. I'll use a different terminology, the gospel of come as you are and stay as you are.

@navigatoruscg8499 it seems like you are filled with an onslaught of insults, but I will answer your question, everyone can sin after their saved, that's why I John 1:9 is so important. Let me ask you this as I have asked a lot of KZfaq free grace preachers, can you be saved and hate God?

@navigatoruscg8499 Wow, you have a mean spirit!! Here's my question Can you be saved and hate God?

@navigatoruscg8499 why don't you post a KZfaq sermon on how you can hate the Lord and be saved. I thought you free grace heresy teachers believe that's the 1st of the only 2 commandments that Jesus gave was to love the lord with all your heart. That's great so you don't have to love your neighbor either right?

Yes he does have sovereignty. The fact that free will exists is the greatest display of sovereignty. - Trent

@@BibleLine The Bible is clear that our free will is corrupted and ONLY does what the flesh chooses

People are condemned because they don’t believe that Jesus did die for their sin. All sin is paid, but the payment has to be accepted. Anyone can believe this because he died for the whole world. 1 John 2:2, John 3:15-18. - Trent

denniscrumbley8274 Please answer this question for me that no Calvinist's has ever answered to me yet. Maybe you will be the first. How do you know that YOU are one of the so called elects? Do you know for 100 percent certainty that you will go to Heaven when you die? Not just 99 percent sure but 100 percent sure. You want to twist scripture. So let's pretend that you are correct with your interpretation of the Bible. How do YOU know you are going to Heaven? And also why do you think you are?

The reason someone goes to hell is not because their sins were not paid. They go to hell because they reject (don’t believe) the payment that was made. Universalism is not the belief that all sin is paid and all go to heaven because of that. Universalism is that all go to heaven regardless of anything…. They take away belief, unbelief, the whole nine. Muslims, Mormons and Mankind alike go to heaven in their view. That’s fallacious to apply that view to us. Rather, 1 John 2:2 and John 3:18 is what we clearly believe. - Trent

​@@magicalmike3629I also will not answer your question because of your disrespect, not because I cannot biblically. I'll not dignify your question with a response. I do not "want to twist Scripture" and I do not "pretend". If you were mature and wanted to have a true discussion of differing views, I would discuss with you. But I have no interest or time for someone who just wants to argue and belittle others. I have debated and discussed differing views with numerous people for 35 years and have taught seminary and have been respectful to all with whom I disagree. Discussing God's Word is serious and deserves respect and reverence.

Okay Dennis. You call “He didn’t die for everyone” respectful? It’s very much respectful I suppose. It’s God respecting persons. Getting offended in a comment section on KZfaq… wow. You’re preaching the nonsense that Jesus only died for certain goodie two shoes people. You can’t look at a kid and honestly say “God loves you.” You redefine words to fit a TULIP doctrine made by the traditions of men to clap back at Catholicism. “He didn’t die for everyone.” That should make you scared, right? You don’t know he died for you. Do you know he loves you? Do you have enough works to fit the JMac standard? 35 years, and you still can’t determine if God loves the whole world or only a percentage. What a monstrous God that would be…. - Trent

@@denniscrumbley8274 For someone not wanting to waste his time with me, that was a long response. If you know the truth, you would be more than willing to share it with us. Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. You don't want to share the Gospel with us because you felt you got disrespected??? The fact that you don't is because you do not have an answer to my question. You are just like all the other Calvinists who can't answer this simple question. So please don't pretend you have an answer when you don't. Saying to someone you don't want to dignify a question with a response because of disrespect is the biggest cop out I have ever read.

Yiiiiiiiikes! Way to talk down on someone. How about you converse appropriately according to the scripture and stop respecting persons according to age? “Let no man despise thy youth….” Age is NOT wisdom. James 1… You support JMac? Give us scripture. - Trent

Why don’t you just read what John said as opposed to reading what people think John said? - the apostle that is… John said at a later date “he is the propitiation for our sins and not for ours (believers) only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” All sin was paid, but not all believe. People go to hell for one reason, and it isn’t because the sin never got paid… It’s because they never believed - John 3:18, 36. - Trent

Which one are you and how do you know for sure???

Yes, in John 10 Jesus is talking about his sheep. The non-sheep do not receive the promise of eternal security as mentioned later in verses 28-30. The passage is not concerned with the opposite regarding a Calvinistic TULIP push of limited atonement. Prooftexting nonsense. In 2 Tim 2:10, Paul is referring to himself enduring… this is literally nothing to do with salvation. You are prooftexting again. Salvation is unto and upon all them that believe - Roman’s 3:22. It is clear that God loves the whole world - John 3:16. You can’t escape this truth. TULIP enforcing lies and deceit. - Trent

That’s a fallacious plea. “Why would God…?” No, it should be: “According to scriptures such as John 3:16, it is clear that God DOES love the world. It is also clear that He sent his Son to die for the sins of the world.” John 3:18 makes it clear that those who go to hell are those who choose not to believe. The plea falls back at you. WHY would God create some who he forces to not believe? Yea a man may say “No… He doesn’t force people into unbelief… You just don’t understand…” Yeah, great answer for the kids I suppose. Rather we could look at the kids and tell them God actually does love them.. 1 John 2:1-2, John 3:15-18. - Trent

Why do you say this? I am willing to talk!! - Trent

Notice in Matthew 7:21-23 (the verses that you quote) that these people are pleading their case. Look at what we have done. We have done this and that. They didn't believe on Christ. They didn't believe that his death on the cross paid for all their sins in full. They were counting on what THEY did. Not Christ. Mcarthur has not trusted in the full payment for sin that Christ already accomplished 2000 years ago. He is a heretic. Believing on Christ is believing he paid it already. Only the ones who do the will of the Father will go to Heaven. What is the will of the Father?? John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. He is making himself his own savior by working for it. So he hasn't done the will of the Father.

@@magicalmike3629 Amen

@@magicalmike3629 Amen !

Our brother Mike put it right. Just wanting to add on about the age thing… Really? 1 Tim. 4:12. Who cares how old, long you’ve been a pastor or what degrees you hold; the word of God is sufficient. - Trent

@@BibleLine Amen Trent. And also want to add one more thing. According to bradmccoy, we shouldn't listen to any preacher that has only been preaching for 2 years. I wonder at what point can we start to listen to them.

We didn’t “bash” MacArthur. We picked apart his false words in the message. He does this about “easy-believism” and the like. We do pray for him. I wish someone could get us his cell number haha! We would chat. The problem is that he preaches a false message. All can believe in Christ as their Savior, but not all do. John 3:15-18 - Trent

Read what further? Jesus died for all sin, and those who believe in Him receive the gift of eternal life. This is clear in the entire passage of John 3. - Trent