Im just starting to face this in counselling I hope I can recover like you one day

Or are you lying to yourself that you are recovered?

What did you do? I think I understand what you mean by defense mechanism. I utilize it as a way to prevent people from seeing the real me but I also believe there's a bit of perfectionism complex involved with my personality that has this need to lie. I try my best to stop, and sometimes it works, but there are just these moments where im dishonest with myself and others. A simple act of leaving things out or allowing people to see only what I want them to see.

@@juliusdv6657 More or less what you said here. Put on a show and no one can hurt you.

What's with lying with no apparent reason for lying? just for the sake of it? no one gains or loses anything with it? Or insisting on a lie when it clearly has been proven and shown that it's a fact, and that fact still will cause no harm or good. Unless to the other person who will start to feel fed up. I honestly believe this behavior comes from people who were never told that lying was bad or experienced consequences for lying, actually they've been encouraged to lying and even get benefits and praising from it. I realized this in chinese culture. While i came from a catholic background where "kids who lie go to hell" and "God sees and watches everything" and big punishment would come if ever caught lying, it was like a capital sin. But chinese kids aren't taught that lying is wrong, actually they are taught that if they have to lie and deceive to get better advantage they should and they watch their parents do this. Kids do something wrong and instead of getting punishment parents will come and say "my kid never did that right" and make the kid agree with the lie, so kid learns that lying is always safe. They turn into patholigical liars in adults, lie, deceive, scam and will have no remorse or guilt associated with it. Also they will lie for the sake of lying like it's their second language..no big deal. I've noticed this behavior in russians too but for them it was more like adding up to stories, making them bigger, more fantastic. One western case is Casey Anthony, she never experienced consequences for her lying so she killed her own daughter, told nothing but lies from beginning to the end and still was considered innocent.

Literally😂😂

Same here 💀😭

Sammme, especially cause im a psyh major haha

Then stop.

@@kjsfl386 not how it works..

@@aidenbradford4440 Adult people can monitor the words they say. If you begin to speak an untrue word...stop and just be quiet. We can Restrain and reteach ourselves

@@kjsfl386 bruh as someone who legit lies for no reason it’s not that easy. its literally natural for me and i hate that but it’s not as easy as you’d think it is. i don’t lie to hurt people but it happens sometimes and I’m assuming you don’t lie constantly you wouldn’t know how hard it is to stop 🤦🏽

@@user-nt6gt6yf9l I’m sorry you are compelled to lie. You must be a special person to admit your fault and that you want to stop. I can only encourage you to ask God to help you. You seem to have a strong conscience and a type of honesty of self to build on. You can change. We all have things we need to work on. 😊

I know a pathological liar who is now on a "I'm depressed" kick. Nothing annoys me more than some depressed loser posting repeatedly about mental illness on social media. Jesus Christ. There is real harm in that too because of the risks of a self-imposed self-fulfilling prophecy.... It makes her insufferable though. I have no clue how any guy would deal with her crap. That stuff wears thin on me real quick.

She’s probably either very insecure or a ppl pleaser. She sounds like me. I lied all the time bc I was a ppl pleaser and hated saying no to ppl but didn’t want to go at the same time so I’d lie

Same , my half siblings are like that

My ex lies all the time and wants to be back in my life. She told me that she’d lie to keep me around: sick!

It’s for good reason… did she give you the gotta protect brother at party story? ​@@meritorioustechnate9455

Kind of like that song that goes 'It wasn't me'. lol. My mother lied to everyone for years about a) that my brother was born 7 months into my parent's marriage like nobody knew how to subtract 7 from 9 and b) that she smoked pot on a daily basis. She even had the nerve to get angry at my father for smoking it on rare occasions. She brought my dog down to the dog licensing office and somehow convinced the clerks there that it was, indeed, her dog and registered my dog under her name. Unbelievable. The damage it does to a child with a pathological liar as a parent is immense. We tend to not develop an internal lie detector and so attract conmen and liars throughout our lives. It's not that we are stupid or even gullible, it's that we ignore FACTS even at our own peril because our entire childhood was a lie.

Been there!

@@LisaMaryification You were trained to believe lies

My brother. he does such obvious and unimportant lies for no reason, it always feels like an insult. He thinks I'll believe them like I'm stupid. Lying sucks.

Dude! Been there.

This is how I feel. I just need some therapy

Being able to identify this in yourself is major, there is hope. My kids dad is a pathological liar and it’s extremely annoying.

It is very frustrating to be a friend to someone who tells lies. I use my strength in God to forgive them as God has always forgiven me.

I could’ve written this myself, I actually scrolled up to your username to see if it was me who wrote it lol! The alien part hit me so hard and I actually said the same thing in a post I made after being diagnosed. I’m happy for you that you’ve found a community and doing better now! Life without insane amounts of masking is so much better 🥺🩷

Ha ha I hadn’t thought of that! I guess that’s why I like saying it. 😃

@@DrTraceyMarks doctor I never been ill befor I drank overdose and that symptoms made that they diagnose me as a schizofreen am I schizofrenic just because of pills reaction. Please can you just clarify this to me please.

@@DrTraceyMarks doctor can tablets cause schizofrenia.

@@DrTraceyMarks cause I have the same symptoms as a schizofreen

In Spanish, fantástica means fantastic/wonderful/ amazing.

Yes! I agree! Lying to someone is a slap in the face. Even when you justify it as claiming you do it to protect them. When you lie you are basically telling the person #1 I don't respect you enough to tell you the truth, #2 I think you're stupid enough to fall for the lie, and #3 I don't think you are capable of handling the truth. It's very condescending, pretentious and disrespectful. I really wish pathological lying would have more study done on it so those people can get treated. I have had one of those people in my life and I HATED her. She was in my circle of friends in high school there's about 10 of us made up equally of boys and girls. And she would literally make up something to cry about every day for attention. Every single day. And everyone in my friend group would fall for it. Except me. I could clearly see she was doing it for attention because when anyone else was getting some attention because their parents were getting divorced or they got a good grade right after that she would start crying and needing attention and comfort. I f**king HATE her to this day. She drove me nuts. No joke she's crying every single day and every single day my idiot friends would fall for it. Like I would get angry on my friends behalf that she would suddenly start crying when my friend was trying to vent about how hard her parents divorce was. She was so irritating and cringy and I hope she has gotten over it or faced some serious consequences for her behavior by now.

They have something defective with them bc they will think their lies are truth

😂😂 he lies as he breathes

I've recently split up from my partner and your description "he lies as he breathes" is spot on!! 👌🏻 I've had 3 yrs of it & it's mentally draining...

It’s draining 😩

Hi that’s such an interesting story and I truly hope you feel better. Actually kudos to you to such a great self awareness and big effort to get better and change. Your story really rang bells with me. I had a friend (in my heart I still have friendly and caring feelings but for my sanity I had to distance) who I realised she was a pathological liar after one year of not so close friendship telling me suddenly about a supposed degree in IT she had, I mean till that point she could tell me she only finished high school doing a vocational program and all of a sudden she was a degree holder? My smart, not too interrogative questions really helped me to understand she was lying as she hadn’t prepared the story well at all for my level of knowledge (as a degree holder myself) so she gave some not so solid answers pretty convincing though but I knew that moment. Still I kept friends with her hoping she would change. Made me wonder for other things and stories she had told me and I remembered a very extreme story she told me the first 5 minutes she had met me , it was like a script perhaps she was using around the time a lot! She was forgetting some of the lies and had changed a few stories, I open pretending I hadn’t caught her out. Anyways she told me eventually in the 4th year of friendship that her grandma was diagnosed with bipolar (manic depression called back then) and they all got to get checked (all females of the family) and dr confirmed they all had it in different severity, more mild. She also told me she has ocd tendencies with cleaning tidying and having to keep everything in order and minimalistic. She’s the most materialistic person I know as I’m not so much buying too many things (she likes few good things but also some simple things if practical and cheap) but to save save save! She likes to say money, convinced her husband to get the most expensive package of life insurance and speaks with such confidence about how well off she will be with her kids if he dies. She would forget her wallet card etc trying to micro-taking advantage of me and others, she’s especially please if she got treated and would treated back the cheapest way possible, if that. Very greedy of money. I got hurt though because I realise she’s very shallow, we might have deep conversations and show compassion but she would ever do that extra mile for me and also I got tired of her supposedly not liking anyone but being friends with anyone and spend time with them and I supposedly her favourite person was always last in her list for doing things but first to call for gossiping, chit chat and throwing some stories in occasionally. She had it easier to lie on the phone and was smart enough to never text and write. I could feel it was very impulsive, coming out as storytelling. Looking back I do feel hurt as I was sincere, generous and honest and I also felt manipulated as she affected me with some observations and comments she made about some people from my circle and I took them from granted, she affected me negatively so much that relations broke down. But herself maintained relations with many people she had spoken bad about them, very strategically, changing the narrative overnight that they weren’t so bad etc.

Don't feel bad. I had a good friend who introduced me to her boyfriend. Soon after, they started living together. I and my friend, Lisa started hanging out with them. Going to lunch, to the movies, ect. Anyway, he started telling some very interesting stories about his life. And, as time went by, these stories became more intricate. He was obviously very intelligent. He said he grew up around dictionaries and encyclopedias and he was very adept with different languages as well. And if he couldn't speak these languages, he could copy the accents very well like an actor. Anyway, at first myself and Lisa thought possibly these stories could be true. I mean, some people live crazy lives. So we gave him the benefit of the doubt. But, soon afterward, the couple split up and his lying got worse. I honestly think, in his situation, he was very insecure and he felt like he was an important person by telling these fabrications. Also, I think he lied so much that he even began to believe his own lies. Myself and Lisa caught him in a few of these lies. And she was afraid to call him on it but not me: I called it and he got extremely angry trying to not only defend himself, but to also back his lies up one way or another. I just decided it was better to let it go than to start an argument. However, Lisa started to fall for him romantically. Even though he never showed any interest in her. And, btw, he still doesn't show any interest in her whatsoever and he even told me one day. So Lisa began believing his stories again. She believed him so much that when he split up with our friend, he got Lisa on his side and then Lisa would no longer have anything to do with her. He convinced Lisa that she was an absolutely terrible person. Which I never believed and still don't. He used to tell me that someone should write a book about his life since, of course, it was so outrageous. He even wanted me to write the introduction to it. And I thought, you know actually I really don't think you would want that because, frankly I wouldn't make him out to look so good and to look so important. So I know he's definitely a pathological liar. There's no doubt about that. It's a shame Lisa can still not see it. However, I just got to the point whereas I just couldn't stand all the lying and I considered it a toxic relationship. Not just because of the lying. But because he started trying to get stuff out of me and Lisa that he shouldn't have been asking for in the first place. For instance, he'd say they messed up his check at work and he needed money. Or that he had extreme back pain and 'would we please give him one of the pain pills we (me and Lisa) were prescribed?' It was really getting to be too much. As for his biggest pathological lying, an example would be that he told us he had a mafia hit out on him. Somehow, to this day, the mafia have not made good on their supposed promise. He also tried to lure us in with stories that part of his family was in the mafia and he even went so far as to say that they made him kill someone and he felt guilty about it. Oh, and at that time, he asked for a xanax. Sorry, but I just don't buy any of it. He really did not act like he actually murdered someone. I think he actually wanted a xanax and a pain pill. Which he got from Lisa and he proceeded to squash both pills and then take a straw so he could snort them. Luckily, I got away from him. But, also to this day, he still is in touch with Lisa and she still thinks he's a great friend to her. I asked her recently, "do you really see him as that good of a friend?" Unfortunately, she said yes. So please don't feel bad. I have to admit this guy somehow really sounded legitimate. He is a wonderful con man at lying and getting people to believe his bs. For my own mental health, I felt the need to get away from him. Frankly, I have enough of my own problems and I don't make the time anymore to hear his lying problems. So just think of this as one of life's lessons. And, yes, be cautious of people like that. But don't let it bother you so much that you don't let new people into your life. Just be careful. That's my advice. I hope it helps you to know you are not alone and this can happen to anyone. Be strong and be safe. My best to you.🙂

@@lucakat9262 Thank you for sharing your story and for your supportive words. I have become bitter since my experience. But you're right that I should view it as a life lesson and be more cautious in the future. I'm glad you ended your toxic friendship and I hope your friend sees him for who he really is and gets as far away from him as possible.

@@patteegee9506 you're welcome. And yes, I hope my friend will get away from him too. And you know what? He really hasn't got any friends left. So maybe that is why he has latched onto Lisa so much. Idk exactly. But I know he has burnt a lot of bridges with his friends. For instance, he was actually in a rock band at one time. And since they broke up the band, he has lived off all of the band members at one time or another but they always seem to literally kick him out. So I'm sure they're most likely, sick of his lying too. He's living with his mother now and he hates it. So, to get away from her, he's been going over to see Lisa a lot. Plus, I think he still uses her for her prescription drugs.🙄 I hope she'll see the light one day.😳 But, of course, it's up to her if she wants to keep him around or not. She still tells me about him and his current circumstances. But I just avoid him.😏 Good luck to you! I sincerely hope that you will find someone who will be really good to you one day and not lie. But I know what you mean in the fact that it gets hard to trust people and, yes, one can certainly become bitter after knowing someone like that. But at least we can learn from our mistakes and to be careful not to make the same ones again.🤔Anyway, I wish you all the best life has to offer.🙂

If a pathological liar subjects someone else to significant lies, they are not just a pathological liar but probably a highly manipulative person with a personality disorder. They were probably gaslighting you, not just lying to you. Most pathological liars are very annoying but rarely as harmful as it seems the person you have dealt with. They're similar to a hypochondriac really.

@@Bonzi_Buddy Wow! I read a bit about gaslighting and you're absolutely right! I was being gaslighted. The psychological trauma has been very damaging to my mental health. I can't even begin to understand why someone would do this to another person. I guess it's like narcissistic supply. It's empowering to the gaslighter. They take great pleasure in watching someone squirm.

I was thinking the same thing. My fav mental illness movie

Bangali Ni beh???

I was just watching that movie and that's why I ended up here lol

Have a friend like that right now he lies so much it’s just frustrating because they know you know they are lying and they still continue to tell their stories 🤷🏻‍♂️

What’s that former friend’s first name if I may ask? Those stories sound awfully familiar with a person I recently cut ties with.

leave the cats out of this, they make great companions 🤣

I needed to see this!

Ever considered why she’s like this?

​@@leez9394 Gee. I wonder why someone would go out of their way to lie about everything??? She's going to be forty-one this year and she needs to get a grip. Sooner or later, she will have to wake up. She might hold onto excuses and labels, but honestly...no one wants to deal with excuses and labels. Excuses and labels don't pay the bills. They don't make people like you. They don't make anything easier. (If anyone's wondering about an update, she is living with a distant relative(?) A relative who obviously doesn't like her. Maybe she's helping her out of pity? One cat died (sick?) and the other one was put out; the husband hates cats. She has no job. She insists, "I'm waiting on a call from the Dollar General." It's been almost a year. They are not going to call her. I hope they will, but...)

@@vintage_peace I think cats are autistic

Ding ding ding! Absolutely. A narcissist will lie often to manipulate, but they're not considered a pathological liar. They lie very specifically to accomplish their manipulations and will blast people with rude truths to manipulate them as well.

Thanks so much Bea! 😊

“Real Talk “ you rock and this junk all way Fascinating!!!

Absolutely very interesting. Another thing I'd like to point out, this is a very beautiful woman.

Ik she is awesome at explaining...

How you are able to remove this.....?????

liar, notice how nobody cared? Did saying that make you feel better? Looking for empathy or attention? Need a hug? You still lie these days?

So glad we’re on the same page. 😊

Fr there's no one in the world I would cover for someone who took that much money

true and i feel like lying about liking someone is a little lie, not a big one

Absolutely agree

You’re welcome glad you enjoyed it

@@DrTraceyMarks 😊💙

A LIE IS A LIE...

Oh awesome Kathryn. Thanks so much for that I appreciate hearing that.😊👍🏽❤️

You’re welcome all Iknow. Self-reflection is a great skill to have.

What can be the symptoms?

I feel you on that one. It sucks being on the other end. But hey we learned from it.

@@grandmastermario3695 your a liar! Lol. I've never been dishonest to my children

Hi Scott thanks for the compliment. I’m so glad Prozac is working for you. I use Prozac a lot it’s still pretty tried and true. However I’m sure that Rexulti is doing some heavy lifting as well. I am taking new patients but I can only treat people who live in Georgia. Now that your doctor has your good combination, looks like things should be smooth sailing for you.

But is that a big or a small lie?

I like your answer to your mom 😊 thank you for showing up and watching. 👍🏽

How did you stop?

You can seek professional and slowly work your way towards a life of honesty and being truthful. Sometimes speaking to a stranger and coming clean and being honest can be the first step you need to make things right 🤷🏽‍♂️

See a professional, now that you are aware you have to deal with it. It also helps to feel what you say, like, immediately after saying something try and feel how that makes you feel and stay away from the bitter and sad ones

Right they just slip out my mouth

Cry out to Jesus to help you

May I ask what type of things do you lie about?

Your sister sounds awesome!

I have a sister like this too, but she has dark traits so she’ll make up stuff to embarrass me around cute guys or friends or family.

That’s so sad

The guy I was dating did it 24 hrs a day🤯🤯🤯

I do that as well. Only recently I have learned that people hate liars, and lies in general. I assumed it was normal never knew one c I ld feel guilty in the moment of the lie, oh well

That's so great!

do you miss him? how did you get past that part?

I be feeling the exact same way

I think this would be considered pretty normal. You’re only lying because you don’t feel comfortable explaining your emotional well being. That’s no one’s business anyway. Now my guy… is a big ass liar!

Hi Lady Baa Baa. That’s a good thought. I don’t think we have enough understanding about what drives the compulsive lies enough to target areas in the brain with medications. Addiction is a different mechanism and therefore we target cravings with medications. But compulsive lying can be personality-based versus brain injury. And even in the people where it stems from a personality issue, The reason behind the lies still may be too complicated to target with a drug. That’s just my raw thoughts. it could be that someone is trying to find an addiction model for it. It’s still fairly poorly researched though.

He’s a danger to society

Yeah that has to be really hard just listening to that all the time. It really is a compulsion though that people just can’t seem to break away from. Your brother is a great example because he already has accomplishments, so the lies don’t really serve a good purpose.

Damn

I need the help on this?

Thank you! 🙏🏽

Thanks Klaudia! I didn’t have to work too hard to come up with those little lies 😃

Thank you Jacqueline!😊❤️

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I can feel you

You’re welcome friendly soul 😊

You’re welcome Jeff thanks a lot 👍🏽

I hope you’re doing better, I need to work on this as well

You better because pathological liars are annoying and y’all ain’t tricking anyone. We’re just respectful but we all know you’re lying

@@SatoshiFibonacci I’m working on it, but I wanna ask you this. Why do y’all condone it? Please, it these call these mofos out! I lie a lot, but lowkey I am someone who fears confrontation. Although I hide it well

@@awayoflife44 I don’t think I am. When I drink I’m more honest. I like me when I’m telling the truth, so I’ve been having more than I should. That’s been my new demon 🤦🏽‍♂️

@@supervert1491 I call it out respectfully. Plus, you just said it yourself. Pathological liars are soft and will cry or get angry if you call them out. Stop pathologically lying. It’s annoying

Relatable.