Nils wow! You got it! Nirvana ! I think he was a pure genius. No doctorate, no multiple degrees. His thought process was phenomenal ! I. Miss him! Badly. I listen to these recordings constantly. More respect for men thereafter. Knowing MENS thought process, brings, unemotionally, more understanding. I loved this 'elephant in the room' schooling and wish more women would just listen to him.

He wasn't defending it. He just said that he understands.

Explaining something doesn't mean advocating the results.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it... or something like that

@@sethiddings7293 yupp. Too many people don't get it and thus are just angry at the world.

He wasn’t defending it. It was Him trying to explain it and it’s heart breaking to hear him to be honest. You can tell that it’s the root of his low self esteem. When he was saying that a child is just nut, he was really putting himself in the child’ positions as to what he thinks his father thought of him. I can’t really tell what was the better path for him because on one hand if he had his father, who knows if he would have turned out to be such a brilliant comic. On the other, you can tell that the only thing that got in between his way from making it big was himself. As much as he thought it was because of his “honesty” it wasn’t. There lots of artists who are honest and are world famous ie Dave Chapelle, Bill Burr and Kanye West. Rather it was his self sabotaging that got in the way. He routinely handicaps himself from opportunities and burns bridges that didn’t need to be burnt and justifies it in his own twisted ways. On some level, he has to know he was on his BS. He’s way too intellectual and perceptive for that. RIP to the big man.

Because it's a cop-out with no basis in fact or evidence.

Erin Steele Nigga, how you gonna respond to to 4 year old comment?

@@erinmaree1987 how is it a cop out, if he hasn't done it himself? Whats he defending?

Chris Tre it didn't sound as though there was any pain about not knowing his father: just fact. His comment about men never looking for their children, as mothers do, made sense. Maury proves that on almost every show he's done for years. His thinking/reasoning/statements still ring true. I try ly believe there was no pain involved.

@@erinmaree1987 not true, women are generally more agreeable than men are as per the big 5 personality types. While I would never condone a man not looking after his own seed, it just makes sense that the most disagreeable men, especially coupled with low levels of neuroticism won't really feel too much emotional qualm about having a child and walking away. In order to understand how people like this can exist you must be willing to see things in their eyes or you'll never be able to combat this when you come across it.

Vince Man exactly.... maybe in the past before all of this feminist bullshit with men getting screwed over by marriage etc, more would be bothered

Exactly!!

This Jeff guy is a trip 🤦‍♂️

Agreed Ahamd. This is why manginas like Jeff get taken to child support or divorce court. They get so attached to feelings and emotions and don't realize that having children are for selfish women ( which is 60% of the country)

They do have a connection with the child bro just not the same way not the same intensity. It would be a tough choice nonetheless. If you were raised by somebody who stayed, you wouldn't just fly off the bat. Patrice has valid points in this but in the end he has the experience of a kid that never saw his father. Life thaught him that way.

No what he says is that he wants Patrice to clearly state he is not advocating that if he indeed is not advocating that.

Sander jesus sanders, he did that countless times during this segment. You are jeffs cousin or something by the way you take things in

If Jeff wasn't there to counter him Ig most of us wouldnt have known Patrice's point, its through several questions and articulation of jeff that Patrice made us clear what his point was

Cause Jeff wouldn’t have new chicks to hit on. His supply will dwindle if men abandon babies. He’s likes his women to be issues of having a father too available.

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Fuck Jeff

@@bicflair9604 still fuck Jeff two years later

loud mouths never listen.. hes annoying af...

Dumb fuck doesn't understand a nuanced point..virtue signaling feminist

Bingo!!!!

I find this to be true. I’ve always brought up controversial opinions, and people would be all “hush-hush”, despite the the truth and reality. They never wanted to shake up the status quo, but sometimes YOU HAVE TO to reveal the truth. Honest. Conversation.

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Wasn't Victorian that would be 150 dollars

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The truth engenders us all - but she comes for us all differently.

1. He wouldn't leave a child 2. He understands why (some) men leave if there is no attachment to the mother and he just nuts To me it makes sense as well. We get attached as men when we see our child but if we just nut and leave and don't care about the mother, it's not so big deal for us. Exceptions exist but I still understand it.

@@naadde exactly my point

I don’t think a women can truly love a man like a man loves a woman (mentally). Sure, women can show love physically, but can they truly love a guy unconditionally? No. They get over guys much easier than guys get over them. I’ve known guys that still love the same woman years and years after they split up. But do I know any women that still love a guy 1-2 years after splitting up? Not really, unless the couple split up when they were much older. Women also naturally look for resources. If a guy doesn’t have resources anymore, that’s it. And like Patrice said, don’t get mad at them for it. That’s just their nature.

@@DeAngelo77 The thing is, its always suppose to be the woman chasing the man. And it is always a man's fault if he gets himself in a situation where he is always chasing her. As once a woman realizes she has control over you she will abuse it for as long as you let her, or when she eventually gets tired of you.

Exactly, too many out there misinterpret 'reason to explain' for 'justification to excuse'. Outright justifications are substantially rare compared to explanations

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....this is their nature....

@@permazero indeed

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Terrence Milton man fuck all them kids

Elaborate a tad bit more. I ask you you respectfully sir - what do you plan to receive- what is the outcome of what you've said?

Michael Simmons nah... Jeff

Michael Simmons jeff wasn’t listening at a certain point he was only saying the thing everyone already agreed to. and he didn’t understand that understanding a perspective(what patrice did when talking about his father) is something very different than embracing that line of thinking. jeff took patrice’s understanding as accepting it and he thought it was his duty to “correct” what was said by saying what he said. he wasn’t wrong for saying you have a responsibility to that child. however in the conversation patrice was talking about something else and using this idea of why his father left as a baseline for understanding what he was talking about... Jeff didn’t catch on and latched onto the thing he didn’t like. so i’ll say it once again, jeff lost all MY respect in the episode.

Michael Simmons @ the 7:17 mark Patrice calls Jeff out on this.. he isn’t listening and Jeff is on the tangent about something that isn’t the focus of the conversation. did you listen to this?

Michael Simmons I disagree. he handled it poorly, he was exposing himself for NOT hearing what he was talking about. I think if you listened to what patrice says about context you’d know that jeff had no clue what was going on. he missed the point entirely. and focused on something patrice DIDNT EVEN SAY. lol you see a lot of this today.

Michael Simmons if anything, YOU handled it better than Jeff IF this is really Jeff’s point of view as you were saying, then it shouldn’t have taken you to decipher and explain it. btw thanks for this perspective.

Sngl Rdy2Tngle surprised you haven't been called a simp by a bunch of 17-23 y/o who likely don't have a woman. Patrice is way off trying to compare ejaculating to creating life

their hormones change IF they are around the mother. If you nut in a women then leave and never see her again your don't just magically go through such changes.

History tends to repeat itself. If you read enough history you should be confused or surprised........... I doubt you know every intimate circumstance that brought these children forth 🤷🏾‍♂️

I think if he was just trying to cope he would have come up with a much more self assuring reason. What he's saying makes total sense, he's saying his father had no emotional attachment to his mother, so to him Patrice is just another nut, the same as if he had jerked off into a sock.

King John Yeah, that was the case to his father. But he is trying to cope nonetheless, its pretty obvious.

Monscent Think about what you're saying. Plenty of fathers leave their children and never think of them as more then a busted nut. That's what Patrice is saying. He understands how this could happen and it DOES happen. So how is it all in his head? lol. You need to realize that by saying "he just made this up to justify his own father leaving" all you are doing is making excuses as to why this can't be true. Do you also not realize that he has no reason to justify his own situation. If he never knew his father like he said, then the father never knew him either. The father did not leave Patrice O'neal and who he is, he left a child that he never knew. So what reason would Patrice have to ask the question "Why would my father leave me?" The question is why would any father leave any child. And one answer to that question is that the father never thought of him as more than a busted nut. He has no reason to justify a father who never knew him leaving. A person would only feel the need to justify their father leaving if they knew their father and THEN he left. Then they might wonder, "well what was wrong with me that he left?" Otherwise the truth of it is that you're dad was an asshole and he left before you were even born to avoid the responsibility of having a kid. He never knew you, there is nothing to justify within yourself and your own situation in that scenario. Not to mention that "my father never thought of me as more then sperm" is not even a justification. What does that justify? lol. What he is saying is not a good thing, but it obviously isn't just a fairy tale by Patrice O'neal and that's what you're trying to excuse it as. You think it's obvious that he's "just coping"? More like he is stating the obvious truth. There are people in this world who will walk out on their children and never think of them as more then a cumshot, and you not being able to understand that makes you a complete idiot. That's the only thing that's "pretty obvious" You did not think this through whatsoever. Saying it's all in his head is completely moronic on your part and is just an attempt to excuse something that you don't like hearing.

Matthew McGivern Man...U really need to add some line breaks if you want people to read what you write.

Monscent Yeah and he had the perfect way of summing it up, maybe he did feel that he just wanted a nut and didn't want anything to do with him.

you say "fuck that" but how do the majority of women in society today feel? i say, fuck that personally too. but we're talking the broad view

Our focus as men is to be accepted, per se - it's to be understood......

There's a clear difference between understanding a mindset and approving and supporting a mindset. Patrice clarified he wouldn't leave his own child (and why) YET he can understand why his own father (and others) could. There are reasons (good, bad, questionable) why people take the actions they do and choosing to not accept that reality will certainly lead a misguided individual into a world of delusion.

Low self esteem? Do you know who is wife is??? He's the same way here like he his on O and A.

Slimkidd730 Low self esteem.

Monscent Since we're repeating ourselves, DO YOU KNOW WHO HIS WIFE IS????

Slimkidd730 she's not that hot. but this guys wrong, elephant in the room is funny as fuck. a classic stand up hour

Slimkidd730 an 8?? Jesus, she is a 5-6 at the most. Elefant in the room was good but I wont call it a classic just because he is dead (rip)