In an economic sense yes. In a governing setting no...

@@LastExile1989 One World Government now! Cut down the number of retarded governments, we gotta beat the aliens somehow.

@@ChrinikWas just breaking down perspective chill spaz.

@@LastExile1989 Was just making a god damn joke here, no reason to start throwing insults, but I guess that's just the common response when politics get involved. So you probably shouldn't have started mentioning politics...

@@Chrinik If you get offended by spaz. Then don't know how you make it through the week. Lean on me get it all out.

Can confirm, had an e5-1650 and that thing was a beast.

this is what i have been thinking on for about 2 months i really wanna get 120gbs of ram for a ramdisk for instant loading of some games i want to play, im glad others have thought of this CPU as well

I managed to build to similar specs and price. About $600 all in, with new case (CoolerMaster Masterbox RGB Pro, incl 3xRGB front fans plus 1 rear)...about $85, a new 650W PS ($80), and a GTX980 for $180. Recently switched out an E5-1660 ($120) with ASROCK Extreme 3 ($200) and 16GB RAM REEC (free) for an ASUS P9x79Pro that came with 32GB non EEC 1600 DDR3, a CoolerMaster Tower cooler, and a CPU (i7 3820) for a total of $220. Selling the CPU so the package costs about $150 net. With the E5-1650V2 ($130) it totaled: 130+80+85+150+180= $625. Runs really well at an easy 4.4Ghz in turbo...temps idle 35-40C and peak just under 70C in stress test. In gaming it hovers around 50-55C. CB R15 =1166. The ASUS motherboard was an excellent purchase along with the RAM...all in great condition. Local purchases on these and the GPU.

With 600usd, i made ryzen 5 2600, b450 tomahawk, snowman cooler, Corsair vengeance pro rgb 2x8gb 3200mhz and the only used part i bought is my gpu, which is gigabyte 1060 6gb for 150 usd. I think this is a better build because it is Futureproof

@@DankAlien2580 Agreed, though my pricing was from late 3Q2018. If I were to build today, I would follow your approach. That being said, my best local deals...a ASUS P9X79 Pro for about $20 and another E5-1650v2 for only $62...are really hard to beat by any reasonable measure. But these type of deals are rare and not good to plan on.

It's bigger then that.i see this as smart way of reducing ewaste.instead of buying new silicon .

Thanks for watching!

Hardly possible, pc back in the day progresses so fast that component released after nine months will become obsolete, every part passed 2 years would become useless. Lga 1356 in today’s standard is like how we view 486 in year 2001 when Pentium 4 is emerging but except you couldn’t run jack shit on any software released in 2001 while lga 1356 xeon running modern software flawlessly thanks to emerging mobile computing. Plus declining pc market that drag down the pc performance progression and development making pc last a lot longer than it used to. However things will change, both intel and amd are back on track plus the pandemic had accelerated the pc sales skyrocketed that may encourage desktop processor start leading another huge boom in performance since core 2 era. It will be nightmare for used part market, and lack of hardware crypto scam/ransomware protection and meltdown/spectre fix leaving any platform before coffee lake in extremely hazardous condition for users. I will not recommend people to use any of these platforms unless you willing to lose your data or have private information stolen.

I was thinking the same even a quick video on optimism a pc would have made all the difference but back then you had to do plenty of trial and error

You know I get quite a few comments in this direction, it's fun buying high end parts from yesterday and just playing around with them :)

@J.C. Denton, x5650, not that crap

@J.C. Denton X5690 (130W!) is only so much more powerful (10-20%) than X5650-X5675 (95W!) at the expense of 150% more energy consumption and heat! In Germany or Canada with electricity bills of more than 100$ or even 100€ a month (!) 30+ more watts is an expensive problem.

@@txemaarechabala6639 the optimal CPU in X58 line is X5675

The original ones didn't even have a heat sink...Take my word for it lol.

Just get the Jginyue or whatever it is, it has a VRM fan

@Eduard Berisa It only allows multiplier overclocking with an unlocked chip. Thankfully the 1600 chips are all unlocked.

@@pigdad just don't forget that 1620v2 is LOCKED

@@ZLO_FAF yea, but v1 isn't

running a 1650 V2 at 4.1ghz as well. using a huanan zhi gt279t 6.11. 1866 un-buffered ecc mac pro ram. Keeps my 980ti loaded nicely

Can you tell me about the temperature and power consumption after overclock

NiGhtPiSH should have gone an old server.Dell 3600.gold power supply ,ssd, Windows 10 professional,6 core 1660 , 32gig quad channel ram for $300U.S

@@chefgav1 that's what I had locally, so it made sense. There are no reasonably priced servers from this generation in Bulgaria.

NiGhtPiSH ah ok.Thought you in U.S.fair enough

Yea that should be coming soon!

You are not alone 😄

With a Q9650, upgraded RAM, SSD and video card, it should be a good daily driver for most tasks. And most games a few years old, should also run very well! I've done a few videos on that, but yea, I should do another 775 video again :D

@@philscomputerlab you should do overclock on lga 775 sometimes

@@philscomputerlab currently running Q9500 with 4gb 1333 RAM and a 750ti, with OS on the SSD. Runs great for what it's worth, even with some games maxed out (like Elite: Dangerous) having 30+ fps at all time.

One of my systems is still a Xeon X5460 @3.8 1.32v 1600FSB on an Asus P5Q, with 6GB Geil/Corsair DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15, a Thermaltake Big Typhoon cooler, 500GB WD Blue SSD and GTX 570. Nearing the end of it's use for a lot of things due to the old instruction sets though. For instance I can't run my Android emulators due to the lack of EPT and UG in the VT-x implementation etc Might use it in a tabletop Mame cabinet.

The big channels have their hands full with the Nvidia super cards as well as the imminent AMD CPUs and Graphis cards :)

@@philscomputerlab So true, and that has a place, but there are 30 channels all doing that, spreading the same spin (since nobody knows until launch) and so I come here, and the channels like this, which are keeping it real. If you are an enthusiast this is the fun stuff just as much as Ryzen 3 which is going to cost quite a bit more- and as yet we are just getting leaks that could be coming from anywhere (AMD/Intel basically). This isn't going to be for everyone, there is some risk, but it looks fun for not too much money.

@@philscomputerlab Not only to mention they are spitting on what they name old crap technologies which is all about Xeon. Keep up at all cost the very good job you're actually doing Phils! Thank you so much from France!

Yea mine came with H61 chipset, so only SATA 2 on all ports including mSATA.

As long as it has good reviews and it comes from a reputable brand you should be fine

My approach is 1. Get a name brand 2. Check it has all the plugs without need for adapters and 3. pick a wattage that is double that of what your machine consumes (for max. efficiency).

@@philscomputerlab 4. Efficiency rating, bronze silver etc. Get the most efficient you can afford. Some of the cheapo unrated ones can be horrible, pulling way more from the wall than is necessary.

It's sold out now, but there might be other sellers.

Yup 6c12t!

Depending on what you use it for, I'd recommend upgrading to 2x Xeon X5680 or X5690. They are 6c/12t CPUs so you'd get a total of 12c/24t.

@@Pasi123 Eight cores is plenty for me and I value the higher clock speed of the 5687. There is no overclocking on the z800

@@DigitalNegative Higher clock speed is generally more important than cores for gaming.

Hi, I own an HP z800 too. I am interested to know which type of eGPU did you use and how you made it work. Also I want to know if there are some ssds that i can use for my hp z800. Thank you very much!

Yea, there are a lot of options. I learn and unpack everything at the same pace, so when I do my first video, I do not know of the other options...

Great deal you got there!

Great specifications, but 135W TDP, so you better have a decent board and cooler :)

Nope no luck I'm afraid, I tried that tool as well as Throttle stop.

@@philscomputerlab ah well ok then. thanks for trying and all your efforts.

Hunanzhi X79 board...

BIOS mod was needed to set RAM timings...

I've had 4 xeons and I would agree with you, except for the release of Ryzen 3. Don't do it. A b450 is $80, 3200 ram is $80 Ryzen 5 1600 with cooler is $100, now you have an upgrade option to R9 3900. Gave my wife my 1680v2 and built a 2700x and it's noticeably faster.

That's what makes it exciting! It's like the 486 days again, with the weird Taiwanese boards with many different incompatible CPU sockets that you can burn your CPU if you put it in backwards, plethora of chipsets with odd compromises, unusual board layouts, no warranty whatsoever, asking around for driver discs, overclocking, power management quirks... we're not building a stable business PC here, we're building a cheap, fast Frankenstein's monster of unofficial, unlicensed and unsupported parts and it's brilliant.

That's the chipset! The fast PCIe lanes come from the CPU, so pick a CPU and then we can look at the specifications.