Why You Should Go For A Coterminous Firearm Certificate - UK Gun Laws

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What are coterminous firearms certificates, why should you go for one and when you can apply? With a number of questions around them recently we go into detail to help explain. Enjoy!
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00:00​ Overview
00:49 Types Of Certificate
01:13 What Is A Coterminous Certificate
03:17 Why You Wouldn't Want One
04:46 Why You Should Go Coterminous
06:01 The Cost Difference
07:57 Summary

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@timdavies7581
@timdavies7581 2 жыл бұрын
Very good advice, I applied for my FAC 5 years ago and didn't go co-terminus because I thought I would be pushing my luck as I'd asked for 5 different calibres on my ticket. I now realise that's not the case at all, if you're approved for an FAC you're automatically approved for a SGC. I added co-terminus at my renewal last month, a no brainer for a couple of quid. Added a section one for PSG at the same time. I'm lucky though, the firearms officer I deal with is brilliant and really understands the sport. A rare thing under the current climate.
@blackbear9326
@blackbear9326 2 жыл бұрын
In Scotland, I’ve just had my FAC, SGC & Air weapon certificates renewed. I suppose you could call that “Tri- Terminous….. cheers for the video mate. Happy shooting, Stay safe. 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@brettduffy1992
@brettduffy1992 2 жыл бұрын
Air weapons certificate t sounds like complete tyranny to me
@blackbear9326
@blackbear9326 2 жыл бұрын
@@brettduffy1992 … I agree with the air gun licence…. Should be the same for all of the UK…. imho .. Hopefully it’ll come soon to England. Along with a crossbow licence. Happy, safe, “licensed” shooting. Cheers.
@loc4725
@loc4725 2 жыл бұрын
I had a look into the Scottish Air Weapon certificate a while ago and to be honest it looks like a bit of pointless political theater. You basically have to pay a fee, prove your identity and not be a prohibited person. That's it. What a complete load of nonsense.
@brettduffy1992
@brettduffy1992 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackbear9326 I do not agree with it I know people who have had made some minor mistakes in their life and they live in the United States and all they can own are air rifles they get big board air guns but they still have a right to go hunting and to protect themselves and their family
@brettduffy1992
@brettduffy1992 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackbear9326 plus it's not that hard for someone to build an air rifle from hardware store parts it would be crude but it would work same thing with a crossbow and same thing with some types of firearms a match lock is pretty much a pipe with a back stop and a vent hole drilled where you can put the match
@jays2001
@jays2001 2 жыл бұрын
It's awesome to finally hear you pronouncing this correctly! ;-)
@EnglishShooting
@EnglishShooting 2 жыл бұрын
It’s taken a few years 😂
@SamK-vk7kb
@SamK-vk7kb 6 ай бұрын
Never knew this certificate existed - having been a member of a rifle club for a couple of years I'll bear this in mind when applying in the near future!
@dave_724
@dave_724 2 жыл бұрын
I went coterminous with wiltshire 2 months before lockdown start to finish took 3 months excellent service both now and then i regret not putting on more slots on always ask for as much ammunition as possible different FEOs will allow different amounts
@EnglishShooting
@EnglishShooting 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always worth asking for more and letting the FEO decided. The meeting is very much a negotiation for some people.
@dave_724
@dave_724 2 жыл бұрын
@@EnglishShooting i asked for twice as much on the ammunition but regret not asking for a centrefire rifle the first time round i was told i’d have to wait a year a lot of it is there own interpretation of the law which is wrong i still find it annoying having to clear land even for a fac shotgun
@loc4725
@loc4725 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at firearm laws internationally and we seem to be a bit of an outlier with regards to having a separate S.G.C. Canada seems to be a good model, you apply for a Purchase and Acquisition Licence (PAL) and vary that for different classes of firearm. The licence is also indefinite with constant mostly automated monitoring of the holder. A much better and probably cheaper system than we have.
@mjaymo
@mjaymo Жыл бұрын
Just bought a M2S and your price estimate wss bang on. Looking forward to trying it out.
@sw793
@sw793 2 жыл бұрын
It's all a bit crazy that they are two completely seperate pieces of paper / certificates. It's about time they combined them and had the relevent section 1 and 2 parts etc.
@HarrySwettenham26
@HarrySwettenham26 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I don't think you missed anything out. I agree with you 100% about the Co-Terminus certificates. It does seem silly that an FAC holder, cannot shoot a Shotgun un-supervised or borrow etc but they can own a firearm (that they have an open slot for). Surely an FAC should supersede the minimum requirement to own a shotgun (which is a SGC). The law should be SGC - You can own a S2 Shotgun/ borrow/ buy ammunition etc FAC - Same as SGC plus own Fireams you have been cleared for Why do you need two certificates? It's a waste of paper having two If you are apply for your FAC for target, vermin or hunting etc. Spend the extra £2 and get a Co-terminus because you can have the SGC and shoot clays when you want, borrow a mates gun and go shooting for up to 72 hours.
@bobfife9071
@bobfife9071 2 жыл бұрын
Ive had all the police checks and gun club checks back which are ok, do these checks help with the application of a sgc and fac application.
@andycarless9069
@andycarless9069 2 жыл бұрын
I'v Got a Coterminous Licence and you save money on renewal In fact it was my F E O who suggested to do it 💷💷😊
@jamesdean5418
@jamesdean5418 2 жыл бұрын
im applying for a coterminous certificate...... gotta be cheaper in the long run to shoot at paper than clay targets..👍👍
@bobfife9071
@bobfife9071 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Callum ive just watched your item on filling sgc and fac app form first time. Can i shoot on another farm even though its a different farm to the one on my fac. Bob
@EnglishShooting
@EnglishShooting 2 жыл бұрын
It will depend on the conditions on your FAC, if it's an open ticket you're fine. If you have a closed ticket you will need to ensure the land has been approved by Firearms Licensing, I would contact them regardless to double check where you stand and make sure you get everything in writing.
@simplyphil.photography164
@simplyphil.photography164 2 жыл бұрын
What about an FAC for a air rifle? can you explain this
@jackb1888
@jackb1888 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Callum, do you think Sam will ever make videos again for his KZfaq channel at Srspower, he made some good content/videos
@MKPSG12
@MKPSG12 2 жыл бұрын
Good video but you did miss the biggest advantage of NOT going co-terminus and that is not being without any kind of certificate WHEN the FLD takes an age to renew it. If both go in at the same time you won't be able to buy any ammo at all. IF you manage to get a Section 7 Permit issued to retain the guns after the expiry of the certificate (+8 weeks) if you have a FLD like Lincolnshire who claim S7s are only valid within the County its issued for you wouldn't be able to shoot out of the county. Worse, if you don't get a S7 Permit issued you will have to pay for all of your guns to go into storage at the same time rather just your firearms or just your shotguns. Now that the medical certificate has become mandatory it does swing things a little for me towards co-terminus but for the above alone i've kept my separate for 3 renewal cycles. I've just had my FAC renewed (no medical required) so have another 5 years before i have to decide to change or not.
@gilbert7794
@gilbert7794 2 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of applying for a license, one question is do you have any speeding convictions which I have in the past but I cannot remember the dates, how do you find these dates if required ?
@EnglishShooting
@EnglishShooting 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I don’t know, however a rough date should be fine. Even just a rough year, you can explain to the FEO you can’t remember when if they choose to bring it up (mine never were) the important thing is that you are declaring them, the exact date is less important.
@dmrsinclair
@dmrsinclair 2 жыл бұрын
Is it on your drivers licence?
@chrismidgley8428
@chrismidgley8428 2 жыл бұрын
Just renewed my shotgun certificate, I had a speeding ticket on a motorcycle when I was 17! Iam now 66! Still put it down all I could remember was it was approx 1973 Easter time! On the first application the FEO laughed! Although he did say if I hadn’t then if they were looking for something it could have been frowned upon! So just be as honest as you can!
@1955kendo
@1955kendo 2 жыл бұрын
How many photos do you need to enclose for renewal of a coterminous certificate, is it just the one. TIA
@EnglishShooting
@EnglishShooting 2 жыл бұрын
It was just one for my application, uploaded digitally during the online form.
@brettduffy1992
@brettduffy1992 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity could a firearm be denied based on where you live like if you live in the city of London they could say you do not need a firearm like that but if you live in the countryside they'll give you that caliber and firearm you were asking for
@banquetable
@banquetable 2 жыл бұрын
Criteria for getting any calibre approved by your FEO is that you have somewhere to shoot it and a good reason for doing so. Where you live is immaterial.
@EnglishShooting
@EnglishShooting 2 жыл бұрын
The only location based issues I’ve heard of are in high crime areas, I’ve never heard of an application being rejected on this basis but the FEO may request increased security in this case.
@TheYjmfan
@TheYjmfan 2 жыл бұрын
If your applying for an fac coterminous all the way.
@doger944
@doger944 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that a FAC doesn't cover Section 2 weapons is a little weird, tbh. I guess it's just a quirk of the system.
@phillharris4459
@phillharris4459 2 жыл бұрын
I am new shooter and got my safe just before covid and was going to start with shotgun but did want to try practical 3gun and dear and boar with rifle shooting in the future basically I want to try it all. What would I need to know what would you suggest
@CFC.Birkie
@CFC.Birkie 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately "I want to try" isn't a good reason. You will get refused on the spot! Book some stalks 1st then apply but try to have some stalks booked in future when you apply, feo will see you have some experience and a interest. Every force is different.
@phillharris4459
@phillharris4459 2 жыл бұрын
@@CFC.Birkie that's what I thought I was going to start with the shotgun do clay and some pheasant pigeon shooting and as I learn more and then progress onto rifles and practical
@rrshowtime3900
@rrshowtime3900 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to expose this.
@enthrallingusername
@enthrallingusername 2 жыл бұрын
Have you got your guns back yet Callum?
@Andyjones__
@Andyjones__ 2 жыл бұрын
no comments, gotta be the first
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@scottgreer5322 2 жыл бұрын
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