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Today's Pokemon Direct revealed Pokemon Legends Z-A which I'm sure we'll all call Pokemon Legends ZA. But there's some confusion about the chosen style of the reveal trailer, and what it implies. Is it a hologram? showing the future of Lumiose City in Kalos? or is it a stylized animated blueprint and it's based in the past? Like when Paris did their own MASSIVE urban redevelopment plan! Let's discuss and then conclude that it's too early to really know for sure. :)
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I wonder what Zygarde is doing right now.
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@Gnoggin
@Gnoggin 2 ай бұрын
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@NerdByAnyOtherName
@NerdByAnyOtherName 2 ай бұрын
Did you miss the end of the trailer? The final title card says it is coming out in 2025.
@MrCat1151
@MrCat1151 2 ай бұрын
If I have to get a brand new device just to play a new game that’s just annoying I’m hoping for a switch release and not a brand new device
@redschafer7804
@redschafer7804 2 ай бұрын
do you think we might finally get az's floette in this game
@robertfaucher3750
@robertfaucher3750 2 ай бұрын
Yo talk about how LT Surge likely served in the Gulf War? Considering the time period red and blue came out and Japan sent troops to the Gulf War.
@clarkside4493
@clarkside4493 2 ай бұрын
Apparently the game takes place entirely in the city. Edit: Ah, you know. Nevermind.
@goudendynamiethd2117
@goudendynamiethd2117 2 ай бұрын
I noticed something, The talonflame at the beginning is a fletchling at the end. The title is Z-A, not A-Z. The Z looks modern while the A looks like a leaf. So we might start off in modern Kalos and then go back to old Kalos, before the renovation.
@Conorator
@Conorator 2 ай бұрын
The Z looks like Zygarde and the A looks like the ultimate weapon.
@zebjensen4251
@zebjensen4251 2 ай бұрын
So link between worlds or ocarina of time then. That would be interesting
@anny8720
@anny8720 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@Conorator I don't see why it can't be both
@kb_diff638
@kb_diff638 2 ай бұрын
@@ConoratorI remember the ultimate weapon is what caused mega evolution or something. Like it created 2 universes where one has mega and one doesn’t. And there was a theory that mega and past paradox Pokémon is related in some way, supported by mega salamence and roaring moon having relatively similar designs. Megas are maybe the past forms of Pokémon being brought back or something. So it could be A(the ultimate weapons) causing something to do with the past.
@Conorator
@Conorator 2 ай бұрын
@@kb_diff638 I wouldn't say that's a maybe. It's already been confirmed with the dex entry for Mega Aerodactyl.
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 ай бұрын
Literally, the entire Fandom was that one guy in ATLA who was foaming at the mouth, and I'm here for it.
@KJBobbyBillyjo
@KJBobbyBillyjo 2 ай бұрын
We were all really excited for Gholdengo in Pokemon Cafe 😊
@rainbow_vader
@rainbow_vader 2 ай бұрын
Omg hoops reaction was legendary 😂😂😂
@captainb4
@captainb4 2 ай бұрын
ATLA?
@milestailsprowerarchiecomi1835
@milestailsprowerarchiecomi1835 2 ай бұрын
@@captainb4 it stands for: Avatar The Last Airbender
@captainb4
@captainb4 2 ай бұрын
​@@milestailsprowerarchiecomi1835thanks. I knew it Seemeilen familiar
@siraaron4462
@siraaron4462 2 ай бұрын
This game is being made by GameFreaks secondary team who worked on B2W2, ORAS, USUM, LGPE, and Legends Arceus, with the last 3 coming out less than 5 years apart . When this game comes out it will have been almost 4 years since legends Arceus wrapped up development - making it the longest development time for a pokemon game in close to a decade. Given the B-team's track record I think it's fair to say this game has a shot at being beautiful..
@zsigmondfeher4624
@zsigmondfeher4624 2 ай бұрын
Lets pray
@zacktheprogamer7999
@zacktheprogamer7999 2 ай бұрын
OH? I mean music slaps but what about gameplay replayability? I agree that legends arceus is amazing but it felt more like a tech demo of what is possible.
@AllanGuiHaya70
@AllanGuiHaya70 2 ай бұрын
Wait that's a REALLY GOOD track record, I wasn't really sure about this game but now I'm HYPED UP BABYYY!!!! (Also it got 2/4 games that I played legally-ORAS and USUM- so that's gotta be something)
@LikanMX
@LikanMX 2 ай бұрын
@@zacktheprogamer7999well maybe it was the tech demo for this game. They saw that it was liked and agreed to go full on with this.
@Infinitystar225
@Infinitystar225 2 ай бұрын
​@zacktheprogamer7999 I have put over 200 hours into PLA, there is plenty of replayability.
@donkyman1000
@donkyman1000 2 ай бұрын
Hello, I’m a game dev (not for Nintendo just in general). So whole buildings don’t have to be actually rendered as a whole with open world games, that would take up a significant amount of processing power for any console . There’s many ways to go about it. But some of the tricks we use in the industry can be: -having a cone of vision, where only the cone of vision that you’re seeing is being rendered, this has been used in games like GTA. -In most games we also have higher and lower poly models, the closer you get the higher poly it gets, the further the lower poly, sometimes even being reduced down to a plane. -Lastly another method I can think of is offloading certain faces of the model that are not in view, so like the back of a building can be offloaded until you can see it. This is obviously not every method, and these methods also have their limits. Pokemon has used these methods in some sense, but I won’t speak on their success at doing so.
@reqz16
@reqz16 2 ай бұрын
-In most games we also have higher and lower poly models, the closer you get the higher poly it gets, the further the lower poly, sometimes even being reduced down to a plane. yeah.. nintendo is using this model all the time... besides the higher part :D
@skyfever111
@skyfever111 2 ай бұрын
just learn from mihoyo
@hilmanaar7401
@hilmanaar7401 2 ай бұрын
​@@reqz16 thats more of a pokemon problem specifically😅
@samm425
@samm425 2 ай бұрын
I have a theory that the name Z-A is a reference to the game being "backwards" (the alphabet normally is A-Z, but is Z-A), the game will start at the future, and go back to the past as the game advance, or maybe you'll alternate between future and past, tying to the time travel and paradox theme of S/V
@diseasedwombat5611
@diseasedwombat5611 2 ай бұрын
Those silly Fr*nch “people,” the alphabet doesn’t go from Z-A!
@meatkirbo
@meatkirbo 2 ай бұрын
Depending on how far back it goes, the ZA could also be a reference to AZ, and this cold potentially be the story of his ultimate weapon and the devastation it caused
@kkstar1718
@kkstar1718 2 ай бұрын
Alternating between past and future could be interesting, and if it does happen, I imagine that you'll be playing the descendant in the future and the ancestor in the past. With you as the descendant learning more about your ancestor, which could possibly tie into learning about potential hidden places that hadn't been discovered in a long time.
@Xerarchthegoat
@Xerarchthegoat 2 ай бұрын
It could also imply the end and the beginning like a post-war setting.
@samm425
@samm425 2 ай бұрын
@@meatkirbo that's obvious, but I think that what we should be focusing more is, if so, why they named Z-A, instead of AZ? And why add the "-" between them? These two seem like the weirdest choices, thus the most significant ones, and more vital to decipher the game
@kawnir42
@kawnir42 2 ай бұрын
I don't think I'm seeing enough people talking about the fact that Z-A is clearly something to do with Az, from X and Y. We really didn't learn a lot about him, and a legends game would be PERFECT for that.
@cocolanfofolan2508
@cocolanfofolan2508 2 ай бұрын
I agree, it's clearly something with him.
@Hyatice
@Hyatice 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure this got brought up but the hexagons in the icon are definitely related to Zygarde too :D
@RedRaikou
@RedRaikou 2 ай бұрын
But his story and the war happened 3 thousand years ago, and I don't think anything exciting happened around him ever since, no way this game will be set 3 thousand years ago, like I said in my comment: A game centered around the time of AZ and the war would be great but that was 3 THOUSAND years ago, long before pokeballs were made and I don't see them making a game where we play as a human and don't use pokeballs.
@cocolanfofolan2508
@cocolanfofolan2508 2 ай бұрын
@@RedRaikou well legends arceus had us travel back im time from the future. Could be similar. They can make it work.
@trevorpacelli8056
@trevorpacelli8056 2 ай бұрын
Also, it connects with SV because AZ can stand for Area Zero.
@FanOfMostEverything
@FanOfMostEverything 2 ай бұрын
"Minus the natives." I mean, we never heard about the Diamond or Pearl clans in modern-day Sinnoh...
@sana-helwa-ya-jamil
@sana-helwa-ya-jamil 2 ай бұрын
Weıı the diamond and pearl clans weren't even native to hisui, the old verses mentioned that fact
@Matthew_Murray
@Matthew_Murray 2 ай бұрын
Having everything take place in Lumiose City makes me wonder if Game Freak took a look at the issues of Scarlet and Violet’s large empty over worlds and decided to use Legends Z-A to do the opposite and create a more tightly focused environment.
@Ebola-Jones
@Ebola-Jones 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly, which makes me wonder how they are going to implement wild Pokemon encounters entirely within the city
@TimdeF
@TimdeF 2 ай бұрын
Never before has the reaction image of AZ saying it's been 3000 years been so appropriate
@aaiden_Blade
@aaiden_Blade 2 ай бұрын
more like 3000 days
@LDtheGreatandPowerfulYoutubing
@LDtheGreatandPowerfulYoutubing 2 ай бұрын
A little detail to add about the "an ending into a new beginning" i noticed that we follow a Talonflame for a real short moment but a Fletchling flys over the city in the end
@pedrofontan5462
@pedrofontan5462 2 ай бұрын
But good spot actually could actually be a super nice subtle hint about the front to back idea
@Ebola-Jones
@Ebola-Jones 2 ай бұрын
A phoenix-esque theme
@wyndhamfreeman1489
@wyndhamfreeman1489 2 ай бұрын
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!! As a history nerd, I'm so excited for the Haussmannian Pokemon game! Lumiose is by far my favorite city in Pokemon because it is the only city that really feels like a fully-fledged city. Seeing medieval style Lumiose turn into modern Lumiose would be awesome! And it would give opportunities for the sewer system, maybe even expansion on the power plant area. I'm so hyped!
@SkatemeRockme
@SkatemeRockme 2 ай бұрын
Like Castelia city with the sewers in black and white, that city did feel like a city too with the people passing by and the sewers added on it, but yeah we could use a city with much more interesting things and places to explore.
@noahberan6498
@noahberan6498 2 ай бұрын
I think Hau'oli was a great representation of Honolulu
@lucashen9686
@lucashen9686 2 ай бұрын
You people are so stupid, it's not gonna be based on Hausmann, it's not gonna be hundreds of years ago. Even the sketches show a woman in a modern trainer outfit. This will be in modern times and most likely set after XY.
@Red_AM
@Red_AM 2 ай бұрын
This is why you're one of my favorite youtubers. It's insane how fast you put out such a incredibly detailed video in such a short time. Nothing you mention feels like a stretch and I learn so many new things. You're the best, Lockstin.
@justinn8541
@justinn8541 2 ай бұрын
We finally have Pokemon Z, after all these years.
@justinjyeung
@justinjyeung 2 ай бұрын
The 2025 release would also mark 10 years since when we thought we'd get Pokemon Z lol (XY in 2013, ORAS in 2014, Z in 2015?)
@McJethroPovTee
@McJethroPovTee 2 ай бұрын
Now we just need delta emerald
@danielpruitt8550
@danielpruitt8550 2 ай бұрын
@@justinjyeung It's sort of poetic to see Pokemon Z all this time later.
@logancole6000
@logancole6000 2 ай бұрын
The humans shown in the background are wearing very modern clothes like baseball caps and stuff.
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy 2 ай бұрын
You don’t and you never will, cope.
@hlewis5217
@hlewis5217 2 ай бұрын
Mega Evolution can finally do some justice to Flygon, Milotic and Froslass. Hoping the Kalos natives get one too; Florges, Aegislash, Goodra, Dragalge, Clawitzer, and of course the starters.
@CoffeeFlavoredMilk
@CoffeeFlavoredMilk 2 ай бұрын
I do wonder if there will both be new Megas as well as new regional variants. Definitely not impossible for super forms and regional variants to co-exist if SwSh is anything to go by.
@hlewis5217
@hlewis5217 2 ай бұрын
@@CoffeeFlavoredMilk imagine a new regional variant that gets a new evolution then mega on top of that. Imagine Ledian/Sunflora evolve one more time then the new evo mega evolves. Sign me up lol!
@ariantotan-nz5zm
@ariantotan-nz5zm 2 ай бұрын
I hope xerneas has past form,and yveltal has modern form then zygarde have 20%,30%,40%,60%,70%,80% and 90% then AZ Floette is battle bond Floette like Ash Greninja
@babyblue9782
@babyblue9782 2 ай бұрын
What about nidoking
@thehauntedtree
@thehauntedtree 2 ай бұрын
It just sucks that we probably won’t be able to battle each other with them
@Alex_Munoz5
@Alex_Munoz5 2 ай бұрын
Its surprising. Everyone was hinting at some kind of "Legends Celebi", and they come with pokemon Z after all these years. Im so happy, I love kalos
@theJennicat
@theJennicat 2 ай бұрын
I mean that's what people were wanting to see a lot of the lore stuff in paldea points towards kalos being revisited like with the great crater the ruin pokémon and AZ's floette
@Alex_Munoz5
@Alex_Munoz5 2 ай бұрын
@@theJennicat Yeah. Lets Hope the Game comes in a good technichal state. Its sad the last Legends game had bad graphics and was so limited. After sv I hope we get games with more quality, and Legends has great potential.
@fatalisblack7213
@fatalisblack7213 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if we'll be able to explore Kalos' version of the Paris catacombs. What if, during the reconstruction, they opened up the catacombs of the old city, releasing hords of wild Pokémon, including those long though to have gone extinct (regional variants/fakes).
@zeoplayz8021
@zeoplayz8021 2 ай бұрын
Yo wtf thats actally a really cool idea to implement kalos variants of pokemon (if the map was confined to a large, more defined lumiose city)
@EuroMIX2
@EuroMIX2 2 ай бұрын
As Above, So Pokélow.
@eur0be4t3r
@eur0be4t3r Ай бұрын
Cofagrigus and Spiritomb could def have forms based on the catacombs
@marlaneperkins8175
@marlaneperkins8175 Ай бұрын
I mean, Zygarde is found underground in both XY and SM.
@epicbruhmoment6985
@epicbruhmoment6985 2 ай бұрын
I can already see a pretty obvious structure with the 5 segments of the city built arouns whatever those circles are. I imagine you complete a story segment in each area and everytime you finish a milestone more of the lumiose tower gets built.
@AnimeMPKMNmaster430
@AnimeMPKMNmaster430 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if this game will go into more detail about AZ & his Floette? I would love for more backstory & lore about him!
@LucarioDoT
@LucarioDoT 2 ай бұрын
I mean, that would make sense
@chrishall5570
@chrishall5570 2 ай бұрын
I 100% agree that the whole city that we are taken through is supposed to be a drawling of the plans made fancier. When I first was watching it it reminded me greatly of an AutoCAD drawing that your zooming in and out of.
@rueblie2627
@rueblie2627 2 ай бұрын
I’m fairly sure this game is actually set around 1870, the tail end of the Haussmann redevelopment of Paris. Notably this is also the end of the reign of Napoleon III, the final emperor of France. Having a story about the final king of Kalos would be an interesting way to take it
@theobuniel9643
@theobuniel9643 2 ай бұрын
So.... does that mean we're gonna get a Lumiose Commune?
@theJennicat
@theJennicat 2 ай бұрын
Wait so like latander ancestor in coming?!?!
@theJennicat
@theJennicat 2 ай бұрын
He totally has an empoleon
@vantaplat7411
@vantaplat7411 2 ай бұрын
2:00 The Ainu did not call Hokkaido Ezo as far as im aware, Ezo was the name for Hokkaido and Karafuto/Sakhalin by the Japanese before it was called Hokkaido. The Ainu called it something like Ainumosir.
@NOMASTER1021
@NOMASTER1021 2 ай бұрын
The flickering lights could be a reference or nod to the old-fashioned "horse in motion" project showing how the pictures are coming to life as the animation begins
@outrageouslamp4539
@outrageouslamp4539 2 ай бұрын
I think if like Hisui they give us a new set of starters it is very likely to be Snivy, Piplup and Torchic. Serperior and Empoleon are already explicitly French. The national bird of France is the rooster so Blaziken would fit well. (plus a trailer for indigo disk did show all the hisuian starters with these 3 starters so it could have been a hint).
@anghainguyen9951
@anghainguyen9951 2 ай бұрын
So Kalos starter got fuckup again lol
@shiruotakuno28
@shiruotakuno28 2 ай бұрын
Really nice theory but I just want the Kalos starters to have mega forms this time
@outrageouslamp4539
@outrageouslamp4539 2 ай бұрын
@@shiruotakuno28 I think they still have a good chance of getting them.
@tlst94
@tlst94 2 ай бұрын
@@anghainguyen9951 Why'd that comment sound so hilarious? lol
@zajinramirez2780
@zajinramirez2780 2 ай бұрын
​@anghainguyen9951 How? The last legends game,we didn't receive the sinnoh starters and instead got different ones, so this might also be the case It's actually better they're not starter since you could use all now
@dillydally6132
@dillydally6132 2 ай бұрын
The A is also the Greek symbol for lambda, two meanings. 1st means speech. Second means ratio as comparison to single unitary quantity.
@Storm-crow13
@Storm-crow13 2 ай бұрын
Blueprints were on white paper dipped in light sensitive pigment. So when the diagram was put on top and exposed to sunlight most of the white paper would turn blue and the sections covered by the lines would stay white. They would wash out the uncured pigment so it wouldn’t turn pure blue next time it was put into the sun
@EcnavMC
@EcnavMC 2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of people saying the game will be bad because it takes place entirely in the city… and I can just *tell* that they’ve never been in a big city before.
@marlaneperkins8175
@marlaneperkins8175 Ай бұрын
It also tells that those people have never played a game that takes place in one city. Because there a quiet a few good games that take place in one city.
@GrimReaper_TTV
@GrimReaper_TTV Ай бұрын
@@marlaneperkins8175yes but this is a pokemon game literally a game that encourages exploring open areas for stuff the game will literally flop if it’s only in lumiose a lot of people have said that’s a big turn off for them so if that’s the route they go this game will be the least selling game they ever made
@cold-bloodedbeats4139
@cold-bloodedbeats4139 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the whole hologram part of the trailer was just kind of alluding to how Lumiose City currently is in the present. IIRC, the confidential papers did say this was a project to have people and Pokémon co-exist together, so I assume this project succeeded. I kinda hope now that Lumiose will slowly be built more and more as the story progresses and you make an effort to develop the city and assist the new residents
@curtailedbike4123
@curtailedbike4123 2 ай бұрын
If they wanted they could also incorporate the Paris catacombs into the game as some sort of underground area, maybe that’s where you’ll catch pokemon not native to the city
@GrimReaper_TTV
@GrimReaper_TTV Ай бұрын
There won’t be pokemon in the city the trailer tells us they wanna make it where pokemon and people can co exist in the city so there won’t be pokemon in the city when we play
@LockytheLimeHare
@LockytheLimeHare 2 ай бұрын
I hope you see this theory, but I know it's unlikely I think the redevelopment plan is set after the Kalos war. Where the region was building itself back up after the ultimate weapon. Maybe Zygarde is involved because the weapon used it back then. Zygarde agreed with attacking the humans, but didn't realize it was being used to attack Pokémon as well. When it did, it left into a cave as a punishment for itself. Thus years of imbalance in like- every Pokémon game, and it would help GameFreak make a retcon that makes sense on why Zygarde is in that cave in the earlier games.
@acoolgamez
@acoolgamez 2 ай бұрын
before I read this comment I commented the exact same thing minus the part about punishment for itself lmao
@LockytheLimeHare
@LockytheLimeHare 2 ай бұрын
@@acoolgamez oh damn
@davyt0247
@davyt0247 2 ай бұрын
I think you’re right. We could very well be restoring Lumiose after the ancient weapon is fired the first time
@GrimReaper_TTV
@GrimReaper_TTV Ай бұрын
@@davyt0247we kinda have to be bc the weapon is what created megas and megas are in the game so that kinda confirms we’re playing after the weapon was fired
@Syiepherze
@Syiepherze 2 ай бұрын
5:30 At first I kinda imagined the Diamond and Pearl clans were the Hisui equivalent of Ezo/Hokkaido's native Ainu. But I think the Celestica people are the most likely candidates Also, my current hc for the urban works group in Lumiose is that it's called the "Nova Project" or sth. Cuz supernovas, they can give rise to stars. The logo looks a bit like a bursting star? The sun is a star, and Team Flare is named after solar flares. A common theme of energy emissions.. Also, "re-nova-tion" ;)
@Raptermonster24
@Raptermonster24 2 ай бұрын
quote of the year "natives removed as always" sounds so funny yet upsetting at once
@suspiciousshadeofgreen
@suspiciousshadeofgreen 2 ай бұрын
When the pokemon company said the entire game would take place in lumiose, I think Lovkstin is right in thinking that the areas to catch wild pokemon in the game will be the outskirts of old lumiose which the city is trying to expand into
@GrimReaper_TTV
@GrimReaper_TTV Ай бұрын
It wasn’t the pokemon company that said that it was Nintendo which don’t have any influence on the creation of the game
@rameroli
@rameroli 2 ай бұрын
"just a few years ago" - 2016.... That was... Almost 10 years ago
@Moon-Vixen
@Moon-Vixen 2 ай бұрын
I also think pretty strongly it's referring to the redevelopment of Paris as that makes the most sense, but I also want to point out that in the sketch, there's a lady in a baseball hat. they were invented in 1860 but were used almost exclusively by and for baseball players and fans, until the 1960s when they became popular mainstream fashion. and as well, I personally got a sort of noire vibe from the papers. I know it's the plans and sketches for the town's blueprints, but they still kinda look like case files too, so I get the feeling it could be a detective noir plot where we're employed by a new looker-type character to go around the city (and it be the reason we don't LEAVE the city ever) solving mysteries until we uncover some big secret in the underbelly of the city using the legendaries.
@anny8720
@anny8720 2 ай бұрын
All of the people in the blueprint have modern clothing and the Japanese tagline says something about a dream of peaceful cohabitation between humans and pokemon, so I think it's just representing the architect's vision of modern day xy lumiose city. Still totally possible to have looker like side quests! He could be a faller again or Emma carrying his legacy
@Moon-Vixen
@Moon-Vixen 2 ай бұрын
@@anny8720 well, "modern" is subjective, and none of the clothes we see are so modern that they're unheard of in the 1860s to 1960s, neither of which I'd consider modern. they're just not like, regency garb and therefor aren't overtly obvious as the past. to me, we don't have to be in French Court in a big poofy dress and tall powdered wig for it to be the past, but I'm sure some would consider a game set in the 60s (living memory) to be a modern game. and as for that tagline, that just makes me feel like it's that much older, as PLA represents the colonization of Ezo when it became Hokkaido in 1869, and people were terrified of pokemon and did their best to avoid them, with very few managing to control one or two. to dream of a peaceful cohabitation between humans and pokemon means that fear is still fairly common, which I don't think it would be by the 1960s when baseball hats became common fashion. but it would still be common that far across the world in 1853-1870 when Paris was rebuilt, and right smack in there is when baseball hats were invented, and the blazer (the jackets we see most of them wearing) was invented in 1837. I think the kid in the shot with the ball cap is a duffle coat which was invented the 1850s, but it could also be a peacoat invented in the 1800s. most of the rest of them are ether too far away or too nondescript to be identifiable, at least for me. but nothing screams modern or future to me imo. and this being a rebuilding of Paris and Paris having an actual rebuild so that people could live safe and healthy lives is a little too obvious to me. I really can't imagine them picking Paris for this kind of plot but making it a totally different way in the future redesign that....also looks basically the same as the original, just more detailed bc it's the only map and on a stronger console. it can still be a "modern interpretation of the future of Kalos" to them, but be the past for us. but if you can find something in that trailer that definitively dates it well past 1870 do let me know!
@budgetbugha31
@budgetbugha31 2 ай бұрын
I think because of the Z through A it might be a dual story of half of the story in 1800s but because of some form of Pokémon logic you get transported to far in the future and get to see what you helped build.
@GrimReaper_TTV
@GrimReaper_TTV Ай бұрын
Yeah no the trailer has told us it’s the urban redevelopment plan meaning it takes place only in the past
@beblazeblue93
@beblazeblue93 2 ай бұрын
Based on the trailer, the likely construction of the lumiose we know over nature, and the fact of “whole game taking place in lumiose” from the Nintendo post I think we’ll get random encounters inside the town itself which is something I’ve wanted for a while.
@GrimReaper_TTV
@GrimReaper_TTV Ай бұрын
Yeah people won’t like that bc then they can’t really create a team they put love into making and catching
@pitchblack9053
@pitchblack9053 2 ай бұрын
6:34 That slight voice over edit caught me off guard lol
@iBlueBro
@iBlueBro 2 ай бұрын
Smooth lol
@ToawstTheToast
@ToawstTheToast 2 ай бұрын
“Pokémon Legends Z-A is based…” Yeah, I sure hope it is.
@IronDino
@IronDino 2 ай бұрын
13:05 "Today is the tomorrow of yesterday."
@anonbefallen4807
@anonbefallen4807 2 ай бұрын
I think the redevelopment plan is perhaps for the invention of pokeballs specifically. As the trailer showed, the blue prints seemed very pokemon accessible, with wide roads and canals for water types. Perhaps the ability to have pokemon as closer partners with pokeballs spurred the Lumiose city government to redesign and expand the city for its new purpose to suit both people and pokemon?
@GrimReaper_TTV
@GrimReaper_TTV Ай бұрын
Urban redevelopment plan is for lumiose as the Paris the country that jalosnis based off of went through the same yeah redevelopment in the past
@foxoninetails_
@foxoninetails_ 2 ай бұрын
2:10 "Same thing as real history, at least the same idea - minus the natives, as always" Except that it was a fairly major part of PLA's story that the Diamond and Pearl clans were the native inhabitants of Hisui, and while their leaders were interested in brokering cooperation between their clans and the incoming Survey Corps., many of their members were strongly skeptical or outright against it, especially among the older generations... how is "the tension between natives and colonizers is a major plot point" an example of "minus the natives, as always"?
@draghettis6524
@draghettis6524 2 ай бұрын
Also, about the rebuilding of Paris under Haussmann, it was, well, during the Second Empire. A major difference between medieval and Haussmannian Paris is the width of the streets. They were much narrower before, and that meant that during the revolutions that preceded, people could easily barricade them. Napoleon III did not like that, so, just in case a revolution formed under his reign, he made barricades impossible, or at least much harder to do.
@QuantumWaltz
@QuantumWaltz 2 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for the Kalos equivalent of the Sinnoh Underground. That could certainly flesh out the city space more. not to mention make it heckin spooky in Paris, the dead outnumber the living 3:1, after all...
@marlaneperkins8175
@marlaneperkins8175 Ай бұрын
I long for the pokécatacombs
@bensjammin9
@bensjammin9 2 ай бұрын
I’m really confident it’s not taking place in the future. The trailer’s neon design to me just shows a blueprint come to life.
@Juniverse0
@Juniverse0 2 ай бұрын
I‘d love a Legends game in a modern setting. I‘m also a fan of Solarpunk aesthetics, so I‘m kinda hoping we’re looking at the futuristic option, you described. It’s also kinda fitting how we‘re contemplating if this is gonna be past, or future-inspired, considering that’s what the theme of the last mainline-games was.
@twilightblaze2052
@twilightblaze2052 2 ай бұрын
I also immediately felt like this project would be set in the past because it looked like modern day Lumiose was being planned out in the trailer.
@SampleYT06
@SampleYT06 2 ай бұрын
I think team flare would be villians trying to destroy plans since holograms are created by them Showing the city in holograms still convinces me
@VictiZee
@VictiZee 2 ай бұрын
“Why are the French so good at removing the n?” Do you have something you want to say? 0:44
@BlahajOfficaI
@BlahajOfficaI 2 ай бұрын
DAMN 💀
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 2 ай бұрын
0:11 that felt like a Scott the woz joke in the best way
@Kiirabu197
@Kiirabu197 2 ай бұрын
thought so too, also the first second of the video- 0:08 though
@lolialf
@lolialf 2 ай бұрын
part of me, hope the giant meteor mega stone thingy will be a big part of the story XY just went: "look at this pretty stone"
@drackocampusanolara4899
@drackocampusanolara4899 2 ай бұрын
Kalos has a 3000 years old life-absorbing laser buried under it. Holograms in the 1800's isn't that crazy.
@nineCryptids
@nineCryptids 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the Diamond and Pearl clans were basically the Pokémon version of the Ezo natives
@dtoons1100
@dtoons1100 2 ай бұрын
Will Lumiose city be accepting refugees from… uh… the Pokemon world equivalent from the middle east?
@NexusUwU541
@NexusUwU541 2 ай бұрын
Something about your video that really caught. My attention is about halfway through. I totally forgot we were talking about Pokémon and I thought I was watching a history of France video. Good job bro now I’m interested in the actual history of France. I really enjoy this kind of content on KZfaq. Keep it up you got my sub
@asterthehedgehog6861
@asterthehedgehog6861 2 ай бұрын
The logo on the paperwork (the golden star with the circle), I think it’s some kind of successors of the Galaxy Expedition Team
@realrice8876
@realrice8876 Ай бұрын
im taking a class in college about paris past and present and we learn about the history of the city and linking it to pokemon is so cool especially right now!!
@superparadox
@superparadox 2 ай бұрын
i think it's surprising you didn't mention AZ or his war/weapon at all, since the A in the title slightly resembles the weapon. With what you mentioned about the paris agreement, the redevelopment in the 1800s, and the founding of paris it makes me think this is a time travel game which is very intriguing to me
@gabriellockwood2780
@gabriellockwood2780 2 ай бұрын
Haussmann's *Redevelopment* of Paris 1853 - 1870 Spiritomb was sealed around 500~ years before Modern (2007~09) Sinnoh. Vessa/Spiritomb tells us the Seal was weakened after 200~ years during the Events of Legends: Arceus.
@jbobadger
@jbobadger 2 ай бұрын
your analysis of the blue hue and white line animation as a throw back to blue prints was very wow
@mairain6443
@mairain6443 2 ай бұрын
I am most excited for Furfrou. I have been waiting for its return as it never made the cut since "Dexit". And it looks like they might be adjusting the forms, as the Matron form we see in the trailer has a smaller "hat", more adjusted to the face shape.
@Purplechiby
@Purplechiby 2 ай бұрын
Came here for some talking about the new pokemon game, didn't expect to be getting a history lesson along with it. Love it, subscribed.
@reidwithoutacause
@reidwithoutacause 2 ай бұрын
I haven’t been on your channel in years but seeing za made me think of the pokemon alchemy theories from back in the day. Cheers.
@Greifchen
@Greifchen 2 ай бұрын
I'd love to see them doing something with the A-Z stuff. You know, Pokémon wars with the giant weapon and all that
@Enjoysaeli
@Enjoysaeli 2 ай бұрын
I'm near the end of Infinite Wealth, and trying to finish up the Sujimon story up now. Can't wait to see your video on it! That sounds so fun!!
2 ай бұрын
I loved all of these ideas about the new game! Fun fact, the layout of Paris and Lumiose city is called “Spoke and Wheel.”
@Sjackson2369
@Sjackson2369 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but I’m going to need a short or a gif of that calculator bit
@gman4061
@gman4061 2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's within the city in a physical sense (X,Y,Z) but we get temporal variation. Traveling forward and back in time between the modern and the past. The boss fight puzzle is like the end of that titanfal game.
@daniinkidar99
@daniinkidar99 2 ай бұрын
What I came for : Pokemon Hype and Speculation What I got : History of France and "I Love Trees"! Great video tho
@brynt91
@brynt91 2 ай бұрын
Over the past few games, Pokémon has done a lot of stuff dealing with past and future. I was thinking that one game was going to be more past focused with people talking about how things used to be (missing the good old days) and the other focusing on the future and people talking about what can/will be. I know they have already done this, but it feels like an ongoing motif in this current Pokémon era. I feel like the transition from a sketch diagram to a futuristic 3d neon/cyber punk diagram was very intentional and not just a blueprint. They are making the lines glow and showing the Pokémon being rendered. Also, if you look at the legends series as "a look at the past in order to make a better future," it makes even more sense
@spookykatelyn2161
@spookykatelyn2161 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video lockstin, it gets me excited and hopeful for the legends ZA game. If anything i hope that its not normal pokemon gameplay in modern times with leqends logo on it. If anything i would rather be mainly in the past of kalos. Also i hope that the game isnt going to keep us completely in just lumios city. I would like to explore the entire region. I feel like pokemon was giving a hint that lumios city is going to feel bigger to explore. Because it doesn't make sense to have a pokemon legends game be in modern times. I can see a hint of time travel shenanigans happening as a possible part of the game. Also I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the sketch of the buildings did not look modern or futuristic. I'm excited for the game.
@confuseddragonedits2294
@confuseddragonedits2294 2 ай бұрын
0:58 Lockstin, there something you're not telling us pal-?
@jimmcknight13
@jimmcknight13 2 ай бұрын
One thing I hear no one talking about is how you can't have something be a legend if it's in the future. The whole idea of a legend is a story in the past, a legend past down through generations not a tale in the future.
@zeitGGeist
@zeitGGeist 2 ай бұрын
Feels like 2016 again with a Lockstin video about pokemon Z theories.
@krisdreemurr3533
@krisdreemurr3533 2 ай бұрын
0:00 *CHAOS!!!*
@Kinowolf
@Kinowolf 2 ай бұрын
The neon/light motif might also just be a way of showing that this is an electric/lit city, which was a big part of the Lumiose vibe. Tapping into that idea of 19th century Paris as the city of lights because it was so quickly and extensively modernized (by the standards of the time).
@eri55
@eri55 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly the kind of deep dive I needed thank you!
@Fred247
@Fred247 2 ай бұрын
A foot in both the future and past like s&v, with events effecting each other would be cool. Also hoping answering questions left from Arceus.
@MaedayMisfit
@MaedayMisfit 2 ай бұрын
When this trailer first came out, i really was thinking of this channel and how he usually researches things. Like, i looked up paris and its time periods and everything. Amd im glad im not the only one who was leaning hard into "oh yeah, this is the past". A lot of people I saw immidiatley jumping into the future camp. Either way, im just excited to go back to kalos!
@amandadaley4182
@amandadaley4182 2 ай бұрын
About the pokeball development I don't think it would have taken too long to get to Kalos because the Professor in PLA was originally from Galar so once the pokeballs were developed, the design for them could have been sent quite quickly back to Galar and in turn Kalos could have heard about them as well. Just a thought.
@LupusRexXIII
@LupusRexXIII 2 ай бұрын
The moment I heard that Infinite Wealth had a Pokémon parody, part of me hoped you would cover it. I'm so hyped that you are
@elementneon
@elementneon 2 ай бұрын
Pokemon Z was always rumored to be the Black 2/White 2 of Pokemon X & Y, so taking place soon thereafter the events of X & Y, in modern day. There will almost certainly then be the traveling back to the past to experience the early days of Lumiose City, and perhaps some involvement with the scary mystery figure known as AZ from the X/Y storyline.
@earlemental
@earlemental 2 ай бұрын
Since I’ve sold my soul to the franchise at age 8 I’m always excited for any news! Legends Arceus was super fun can’t wait for this! Love your vids always a fun time and always gaining new perspectives! Also I may be late to the party, but woah cool tattoo!! Any chance we can get a tattoo tour?
@leoryff979
@leoryff979 2 ай бұрын
Clearly Z-A will be a dungeon crawler. You delve into tunnels deep below Lumiose (based on the real life catacombs in paris) and look for resources to rebuild the city! Cracked it.
@SR_Helios
@SR_Helios 2 ай бұрын
Traveling between past and future would be kinda fun
@KaraKaotic
@KaraKaotic 2 ай бұрын
i think the flickering is suppose to back like different drawn frames of animation. since it had that drawn look to it
@Gzilla313
@Gzilla313 2 ай бұрын
Seems like this game is going to be open area, like PL:A, where each area is a pie slice of the city with a Mega Pokémon as guardian in each area.
@CamKoudo
@CamKoudo 2 ай бұрын
My gut feeling after seing the trailer immediately went to that same time period mentioned in the first half of the video 👌
@josephgibson5981
@josephgibson5981 2 ай бұрын
Oh, thats the city layout in the thumbnail. I can't imagine what Pokemon would become if that was a Harvester City Destroyer from Independence Day.
@raptorskilltor4554
@raptorskilltor4554 2 ай бұрын
There was a hint of a past and future concept in the painting from aa mansion in xy
@Alexander17503
@Alexander17503 2 ай бұрын
9:00 Pure musical flow :catJam:
@starsilverinfinity
@starsilverinfinity 2 ай бұрын
One interesting thing that came to mind when thinking about starters, Pokemon, etc, is however unlikely it is - imagine if one of the 3 Starters isnt even from a game we have yet. They could hint at Gen 10 directly and just laugh at our confusion. It'd be as amazing as it is unfortunately unlikely
@supermightbyte6472
@supermightbyte6472 2 ай бұрын
i feel like the only one that noticed this but we can see a future robotic paradox pokemon in one of the buildings and its a new one we havent seen before
@oz598
@oz598 2 ай бұрын
The reason I love this channel is it gives you history lessons while talking about pokemon. Keep it up!
@50shadesofgeek41
@50shadesofgeek41 2 ай бұрын
Wild idea: What if it's both past AND future? Ocarina of Time style, you travel back and forth between old Kalos and future Kalos, start new building projects in the past and then travel to the future to see that work completed. Fruits of your labor, sort of speak. Anyone with me on this?
@TheLMBLucas
@TheLMBLucas 2 ай бұрын
15:22 waaaait, what? I didn't know that! I'm even more curious now lol
@hlewis5217
@hlewis5217 2 ай бұрын
This means the rollerskates are likely making a comeback!! WOOOOOOOO
@TheJwaterworks
@TheJwaterworks 2 ай бұрын
Still not fully convinced about it being in the past. Will wait for more official news before anything. Could be fun to make some speculative starters when we get news
@Daragonal
@Daragonal 24 күн бұрын
0:43 I mean to be fair, the song lies, they aren’t in Paris.
@jamesanderson1139
@jamesanderson1139 2 ай бұрын
You're the first KZfaqr to point out the Blueprint theme goddamn. I was starting to think y'all shared a brain cell. Gg Lockstin.
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