Project Overlander gets JCR Offroad's 1-ton Steering Upgrade

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8 жыл бұрын

This week I'm installing a 1-ton steering upgrade from JCR Offroad on Project Overlander. I made some really stupid mistakes, so watch and learn so you don't do the same thing I did. Thanks for watching!
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@lelandeggleston1041 8 жыл бұрын

I love it when people show the mistakes so we can learn with them. Subscriber for life here, awesome job.

@XBaneyX 8 жыл бұрын

Ruffstuff makes a tapered insert kit so you don't have to buy the reamer. You drill the knuckles and pitman arm out to one size (i think it was 7/8" for my application) then you insert the tapered insert into the hole and weld it in place. Way cheaper than buying a reamer and probably easier too.

@h3coyote277 6 жыл бұрын

Instant subscriber... LOL "Maybe... I'm a very expensive tool..." HA ha.. Me too brother...

@USAF-SF 8 жыл бұрын

FYI - The primary issue I observed in your video concerning the reamer use (other than the excessive amount of material being reamed due to not pre-drilling), was the speed with which you were using it, keep your speed at a lower RPM and you'll be less likely to burn up your reamer.

@Steeda04SVT 8 жыл бұрын

Great video, been wanting to get this kit for my jeep.

@richardestes7035 8 жыл бұрын

You should be able to have the reamer re-ground at a fraction of the cost for a new one. Take it to a machine shop that has a grinding room or use an online sharpening house... great video! I'm looking forward to seeing more of them!

@runningoverland7656 5 жыл бұрын

Doing this soon!! Thank you so much.

@678friedbed 8 жыл бұрын

glad to see you guys separating those joints properly instead of using a pickle fork

@tylerbleepinjeep606 8 жыл бұрын

not a big fan of the pickle fork.

@07cummins3500 6 жыл бұрын

Have you had any issues with it since the install? And did you find any aftermarket differential covers that will work with it? I recently installed Cavfab and am not happy with it. I didn't realize how much noise that the heims would make.

@wbball15 5 жыл бұрын

My drag link knuckle came out of the joint on my WJ at nearly 60 mph on the interstate. Coasted to a stop nearly a mile in a straight piece of highway.

@wbball15 5 жыл бұрын

Scariest damn day of my life.

@misfit138zwc 8 жыл бұрын

Dude, I wish you were my neighbor! My girlfriend and I just purchased our first Jeep XJ and would love to have someone with your knowledge nearby. It's an '01 sport and we love it! We sold my gf's 4WD escape (because it sucked) once we moved out here to Nevada. She wanted to get something that we could both work on together. Plenty of awesome trails out here and we were tired of the constant wheel slip and spin, being restricted with the crappy, fake unreliable 4wd system her car came with. My Ford 4x4 super crew does just fine but some areas and trails we go to, it is a bit bulky and cumbersome at times, so we decided we wanted to get a smaller sized iconic American 4x4 suv... the XJ!!!! Thank you and the rest of the BleepinJeep crew for all the time and knowledge you guy's have invested in your videos over the last few years. I have always watched your channel and dreamt one day we would own a jeep, well the time is now and this beer I'm about to open is for you guys, CHEERS!!!! -Johnny

@CurrySoSpicy 8 жыл бұрын

Welcome to paradise man. Enjoy the stay!

@IDontAShitGive 8 жыл бұрын

Welcome to hell, Jeep: just empty every pocket.

@CurrySoSpicy 8 жыл бұрын

IDontAShitGive one man's paradise is a others living hell.

@georger580 2 жыл бұрын

That's why I decided to buy a kit that didn't require drilling out the knuckle. It's important for the ball joint to seat nice and tight without spacers.

@SamSam-ke9zy 5 жыл бұрын

Is there any Bump Steer? It looks like the track bar and drag link are not parallel after the new links are put in. I'm looking into this set up or Heim joint 1-tons for my 98 ZJ daily driver so I'm looking into all the options and don't want a surprise that's going to cause order extra parts to set it right.

@markscheurich2196 6 жыл бұрын

Don’t those rod ends have the same weakness as the others? They come off the end then get thin then go round and the thin part looks as thin as the old ones. What good is a bar that doesn’t break or bend when the ends snap at that thin point?

@pdub1247 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I have this same kit. The instructions say to remove the boot & install that plastic spacer. Did you have any problems from leaving your Blue boot on & putting the spacer on top of it? I'm hoping to hear back from JCR on this part of the install

@ricardoavila294 8 жыл бұрын

Very didactical, thanks

@marianobruno7491 6 жыл бұрын

QUestion, how was the drive without the stabilizer?

@cybergoth665 2 жыл бұрын

For the poly bushing. Instructions says to remove the dust boot then use the poly bushing. Do you put the dust boot back on?

@3ricky13 3 жыл бұрын

like the tree paint job idea

@MrMrsregor 7 жыл бұрын

why did you chose under the knuckle and not over the Knuckle ? is it only to avoid cutting off swaybar brackets?

@davidpepiton1187 7 жыл бұрын

MrMrsregor I'm sure that with an overland rig he still wants sway bars since he will have his family with him. I have a ZJ with the OTK kit and it is a overland build as well and I have no sway bars but very stiff shocks that help.

@todhollo1961 4 жыл бұрын

afyter putting bigger tiers no jeep did you calibrate the speedometer (speed and mileage change)for the bigger tires????

@JeremiahCrow 8 жыл бұрын

Are there any benefits of going under the knuckle as opposed to over it?

@jasonbodi503 2 жыл бұрын

Underneath is the factory design so it's more or less just plug and play with these upgrades. If you swap to over the knuckle you usually have to cut stabilizer brackets and sway brackets off to clear the tie rods and I think there's more to it than that

@stevenmansolf5116 7 жыл бұрын

I had installed the jcr 1 ton steering and realized it rubs on the track bar bracket and bolt how would I fix that?

@deanwattles8722 6 жыл бұрын

UM, you didnt screw up the pass side knuckle, you take the rubber boot off and only use the UHMW spacer. if you use both, you don't have enough taper engaged to be safe

@pdub1247 2 жыл бұрын

I had that EXACT question! I just emailed JCR for clarification. Just finished drilling to 5/8", hopefully I will hear back from JCR soon

@deanwattles8722 2 жыл бұрын

@@pdub1247 I made my own with o-rings to keep most of the dirt out. drive.google.com/file/d/1zF1Ul4ISZX3r9zcMiXYodj9yblL0me55/view?usp=sharing

@deanwattles8722 2 жыл бұрын

and installed, did both right and left sides of tie rod. drive.google.com/file/d/1dTUKzT6YLqyIsejCex27yH5-M7TIjQDr/view?usp=sharing

@deanwattles8722 2 жыл бұрын

@@pdub1247 I made my own with o-rings to help seal. drive.google.com/file/d/1dTUKzT6YLqyIsejCex27yH5-M7TIjQDr/view?usp=sharing

@deanwattles8722 2 жыл бұрын

@@pdub1247 my home made ones, used them on both right and left side. drive.google.com/file/d/1zF1Ul4ISZX3r9zcMiXYodj9yblL0me55/view?usp=sharing

@qdoggyrufruf 5 жыл бұрын

carful when using castle nuts to bang stuff off and use the balljoint press. knacker the threads and you can start to spin your tie rod, and those puppies arent the cheapest to replace as far as nuts go

@workshop_from_nothing 8 жыл бұрын

err why not just install it with out the spacer.. the arm will act as the spacer to keep the rod end from turning?

@deonjames2086 7 жыл бұрын

I know that you can upgrade the xj steering with zj stuff, but anyone know any other "bastard pack" materials that could be used to do this other than buying the kit?

@Blackdiamondoffroad. 7 жыл бұрын

can you put this on a wj or do they one just for jeep wj

@brianverlihay 8 жыл бұрын

great video xkut will sharp that for like 20$ I got the guys cell number if u want to send it in to them thy are a great company . I checked out that JCB one ton steering kit and I think that spacers is supposed to replace the boot and not both be used at the same time thanks keep the great videos Comming

@pdub1247 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video, what kind of roller stool is that?

@slowmotionjones 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like one they have at Harbor Freight.

@SergioHernandez-qm4ie 4 жыл бұрын

Torque specs on castle nuts? Or just hit it with an impact?

@bleepinjeep 4 жыл бұрын

It's usually pretty low, check your manual

@fiveninegarage 2 жыл бұрын

75ft lbs

@2235whatever 8 жыл бұрын

why not just go with over the knuckle steering if you're gona do all the drilling and what not anyways?

@NickInTimeFilms 8 жыл бұрын

To do Over The Knuckle steering properly, you also have to raise your axle trackbar mount to keep everything in check. Otherwise you start getting bump steer from non-parallel links.

@Str8sixfan 7 жыл бұрын

Any projects have any interest in WJ Knuckle swap? I had a D30 project evaporate, so I'm selling stuff off. Sold the HP D30, but I still have the WJ knuckles and about anything you need to make the swap a reality. If interested message me. Regardless, this is a fun project to follow.

@DjDubStak 6 жыл бұрын

Do u still have the wj Knuckles? I'm interested in upgrading my xj with wj brakes

@TexasRedneck 8 жыл бұрын

Why not go with the ZJ V8 steering setup? I know you said you wanted beef so that you wouldn't be stranded, I would think that the ZJ setup would be more than efficient, plus costs a bunch less.

@MichaelKopack 8 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering the same thing. Considering replacing my rusty/worn steering components in my wrangler and was figuring I'd go doner but after watching this I'm wondering if he's onto something going heavier duty. All these jeeps have real whimpy looking tie rods.

@jonruger 7 жыл бұрын

Michael Kopack v8 zj steering still sucks it's the exact same I have one and I need to upgrade my brand new stock steering just did the death wobble today

@ashleyd3420 8 жыл бұрын

Why haven't you worked on Tetanus lately?

@tylerbleepinjeep606 8 жыл бұрын

I just barely pulled a front axle out of a 96 Cherokee for Project Tetanus. I also pulled a full drive train out for Tetanus. Stay tuned and there will be videos coming shortly.

@alanack67 8 жыл бұрын

I would have used anti seize on everything, but then again Im not sure if you live in the rust belt like me

@tylerbleepinjeep606 8 жыл бұрын

+Alan Ackaway I didn't show it on camera, but I did coat all the TRE threads with anti seize. You have to be careful though because you don't want it to interfere with the lock tight on the lock nuts.

@alanack67 8 жыл бұрын

+Tyler Bleepinjeep I've never seen steering components magically come loose. a snap on tourque wrenchs is a wise investment

@tylerbleepinjeep606 8 жыл бұрын

+Alan Ackaway my brother actually had this happen while driving my dad's XJ. Luckily for him, he was off-road and going fairly slow. The tie rod came apart and the front tires did the splits. We got the jeep professionally aligned after installing a similar kit. Not sure what they did, but it wasn't good. We ended up spot welding the locknuts to the tie rod after getting aligned...again.

@chrisleyva8209 5 жыл бұрын

Ruff stuff has the remir for 75$

@Ken19700 8 жыл бұрын

I probably would have ditched the abs.

@tylerbleepinjeep606 8 жыл бұрын

believe me....the thought did occur.

@fishrrelaxing9361 4 жыл бұрын

Why try and retain the abs on a Cherokee? The breaking is super weak to start with and at minimum based in the weight your gonna run gonna need and upgrade kit plus 96 booster and master upgrade. Even then with the kind of weight you’ll be running you’re never gonna be able to use the abs? Just seems like a waste of time and as you’ll be pulling the rear d35 odds are the axle replacing it might not be compatible anyways. Seems like a big waste of time to me for something you haven’t completely thought through to release you want be using it long term. You’re also over adjusted for toe on the tie rod.. 1/8” difference is for 33-36” tires..

@calebweir4259 8 жыл бұрын

bad lighting. would like to see some tests on the difference between this setup and a ZJ tie rod upgrade. my guess is there is not much of a difference. The biggest upgrade with this setup to me is the ease of tie rod end replacement, no need to buy a whole new drag link like with the stock setup

@todhollo1961 4 жыл бұрын

I just use fingernail polish the original lock tight

@kenpoist7 8 жыл бұрын

Where are you located? Don't need the exact address...unless you're right around the corner, than we'll be BFF's. :)

@samlivingston5749 8 жыл бұрын

36 bucks here in SLC for a reamer. You guy's are getting boned

@neekneek4372 8 жыл бұрын

should have used terraflex steering kit i wont mall rate the kit you used if you rigs a trailer queen ypu can get away with it but i will say they dont make a grate product becuse you have horrible angles on you track bar and drag link i have a 8 lift on 39s on mine and flat track bar and drag link drives like its stock took 3 trys to get where im at and all i can say is this rig will drive like shit on the freeway

@tylerbleepinjeep606 8 жыл бұрын

The suspension is at full droop in this video, not at ride hight. The angles will be MUCH flatter when the weight of the vehicle is resting on the springs and not on jack stands. There also is no engine, tranny, etc. in the vehicle right now so it's way lighter than it will be once it's complete.

@neekneek4372 8 жыл бұрын

+Tyler Bleepinjeep i ran the rustys kit first then whent to the jrc kit when i had a 4.5 sort arm kit and the angles where bad and i lost alot of steering angle the kits made more problems then they solve its a bad product

@tomd1939 8 жыл бұрын

you can also "Frankenstein" aftermarket parts together for a flatter angle on the track bar (which is what I intend to do). I know skyjacker makes a elbow bracket that mounts to the sway bar end link and the original steering stabilizer mount. you disregard the original track bar mount and the track bar goes into the steering stabilizer mount which raises it on the axle side (the kit has a provision with a new mount for a steering stabilizer if you still feel the need for one). attach that with a track bar drop bracket on the unibody side and an adjustable track bar to compensate for the new flatter angle, and BAM...smooth riding....for the most part...in theory....or just keep your receipts, HAHA!

@walterham5107 8 жыл бұрын

kit sucks.. I've gone through two of them... The angel off the pitman arm is terrible even with a two inch drop pitman arm. The oro U-turn kit is legit.

@bustedback 8 жыл бұрын

I had this kit too. I couldn't hardly drive my ZJ because the bump steer was so bad, and then came the death wobble. I put the stock steering back on and it's 97.2% better.

@walterham5107 8 жыл бұрын

The tie rod ends are garbage. Took my zj out 3 times on this kit and one ball joint was toast and the tie rod end the drag link ties into was bent. Just like most things, you get what you pay for... Pony up and buy the U-turn from oro. BTW I'm on a 6" lift and was using a 2" drop pitman arm. U-turn does not require a 2" drop. Recommends using the stock pitman and no reaming either..

@davidpepiton1187 7 жыл бұрын

Goat Mad sucks you had issue I've had it on for about a year now and besides tearing the boots of the tierods I've had no issues. mine is a OTK with IRO 4.75 inch lift, no drop arm, no bumpsteer no steering damper.