Putter Face Technology & How to Roll the Ball Better

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txg.ca - We explore various types of putter face technologies that are designed to help roll the ball better and assist you in making more putts. There's no faster way to lower your scores than to improve your putting, but which type of putter is right for your stroke? Using the Quintic ball roll putting launch monitor, we examine the conditions of the stroke and how each type of putter face affects the roll of the ball.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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@michaelmccarthy5841
@michaelmccarthy5841 5 жыл бұрын
Lovin’ the putter videos! The most important clubs in the bag. Looking forward to the next one! I like the new music on this one!
@banditbaker1675
@banditbaker1675 5 жыл бұрын
As ever an awesome Vid Gents, really enjoyed it and so looking forward to the next Putting episodes of the Putting series. I have installed a putting green surface in my study at home in the UK so that I can practice and perfect my Putting stroke over the winter. After a season of too many 3 putts I am determined to limit them next year. so I have decided to make a donation to a local Hospice for every 3 putt I make next season. (Going on this seasons performance there should be enough money for them to build a new wing)!
@davidwilson1107
@davidwilson1107 5 жыл бұрын
So happy the putters are getting some love. Most important club in the bag. Awesome job guys.
@ericbernardras
@ericbernardras 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, Matt, the TXG studio looks absolutely amazing. If I wasn't in CA I'd want to go just to see such a cool looking golf-man-cave.
@andrewmccullough9334
@andrewmccullough9334 5 жыл бұрын
That facility looks amazing. Great video guys I feel that putters often get overlooked in online content so I'm glad you guys are diving in 👍
@1mtis
@1mtis 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always, looking forward to more of the putting videos, would love to see the different grip sizes and shapes on how that effects delivery
@xLorenzoca
@xLorenzoca 5 жыл бұрын
That location is just beautiful, a golfers dream! But good video guys, keep it up!
@fredstrauch616
@fredstrauch616 5 жыл бұрын
It would be a blessing if you had store here in Colorado. You offer the best in product knowledge and consumer awareness thanks guys
@maddad4767
@maddad4767 5 жыл бұрын
Love that intro. Great b-roll gents... Almost as good as the actual content. Thanks
@christopherlafreniere7141
@christopherlafreniere7141 5 жыл бұрын
Love the intro music change. Had that nice beat that gets you all excited. I'm looking forward to trying out the Ping's new Sigma2 line with the adjustable length and newer insert see if it beats out my dated milled face.
@jamesbriggsgolf6212
@jamesbriggsgolf6212 5 жыл бұрын
Christopher LaFreniere no B65 head is a letdown though 😭
@relaxnchill9335
@relaxnchill9335 5 жыл бұрын
superb content, I have just put my search for a new putter on hold until I see your upcoming vids
@michaelkovac3297
@michaelkovac3297 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video on considerations into putter buying and quintic
@x1rmotorsport
@x1rmotorsport 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, this is the last part of my bag needing upgrading. I use a spider si ghost and this will be a good insight into what the difference is
@ricedaddy88
@ricedaddy88 4 жыл бұрын
The Odyssey putter tested here is the exact putter I use and I've always wondered if I need a different. I wasn't fitted in to it, just liked it and bought it. Putting has always been my strong point in my game. This is making me thinking about getting a putter fitting.
@clayfleming6286
@clayfleming6286 5 жыл бұрын
Intro music is much improved for this video!
@maamold
@maamold 3 жыл бұрын
I would love more putter content. So much technology out there for putters.
@willieaway
@willieaway 2 жыл бұрын
Your putting videos inspired me to stop struggling to adapt myself to my swing and go in for a fitting and as a clean slate find a putter that suits me. Went back to a toe down heal/toe putter. Got a king cobra sport 45. Has a different face to others I tried, including Scotty, odyssey and ping, my distance control has improved out of site.
@davidcullen3578
@davidcullen3578 5 жыл бұрын
Love these videos!! More
@fernandoberoiz5083
@fernandoberoiz5083 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, as usual
@denissonsing8632
@denissonsing8632 5 жыл бұрын
Another impressive and informative video. I'm still looking at a Sam putter fitter around Montreal. No luck.
@luisrepreza174
@luisrepreza174 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the last club a lot of people forget to get fitted, however, the most used club in our bags. I've seen so many people playing with putters the even me, that I'm not a golf fitter, can notice right away the toe aiming at the sky 😨. Some golf stores could adjust those putters at no charge. Thanks for another great video guys 👊
@SvingitGolf
@SvingitGolf 5 жыл бұрын
Got a O-Works #1 Wide putter with a Super Stroke 3.0 slim counter balanced grip at 50 gram. Love the feeling and sound. It's like the ball jumps of the face.
@chrisfranz
@chrisfranz 5 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the grip video!
@Drjeremy6060
@Drjeremy6060 5 жыл бұрын
Superb video. As usual fascinating, quite technical with sensible “ coles notes” summary. Don’t worry about the shirts but the shoes....hey maybe a platform video using Performance Orthotics technology?
@jasonhurtaha4440
@jasonhurtaha4440 5 жыл бұрын
I know you guys did a video on the stability putter shaft a little while back. Knowing that you guys think a lot of Accra shafts, could you compare their new putter shafts to the stability shaft and maybe the UST frequency filtered shaft (which looks like the stability shaft). Would be interesting to see the differences. Thanks guys, great video as usual.
@SvingitGolf
@SvingitGolf 4 жыл бұрын
Have upgraded to a Stroke Lab Double Wide with flow neck and pistol grip. Awesome putter.
@rayford7319
@rayford7319 4 жыл бұрын
Been watching your videos for a while now just subscribed and about to Google where you are for a putting fitting 👍
@robcouch81
@robcouch81 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video!!! Thank you love the dorky info on putting!! P2 putting grips????? Anyone out there like them????
@benrussell1574
@benrussell1574 5 жыл бұрын
Better logo animation boys...not as much going on. Videography is stunning as usual. You're truly in a class of your own at this point. Keep it coming!
@isao8402
@isao8402 5 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video guys, thanks for taking the time to make it! Looking forward to more videos on putter fitting and how/why to choose a putter.
@yadthink
@yadthink 5 жыл бұрын
The putter is what I need the most help with (face angle control), so I'm looking forward to your putter videos! I hope you discuss the pros and cons of stroke types (SB/ST vs. arc). E.g., from what I've read, SB/ST requires some manipulation to achieve, so it's not as simple or natural as an arc stroke, and a high % of people who say they use SB/ST are actually using a slight arc. Anyway, thx for this and the upcoming videos!
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Will be more about that on our next putter video for sure!
@fergusreeverealestate.7409
@fergusreeverealestate.7409 5 жыл бұрын
Now that, is a good video.
@ScottDreyfus
@ScottDreyfus 5 жыл бұрын
I put an odyssey micro hinge in the bag 2 years ago Augusta and haven't putted as well in my life. I was struggling to hit the hole from 5 feet with a heel shafted blade. I went polar opposite with a small back weight center shaft and haven't missed from 5 feet in 2 years that wasn't a mechanical problem.
@oldgold5848
@oldgold5848 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. It's the one club I have never had fitted. Like many others I have relied on feel.....maybe that is the real reason I am a rubbish putter.......
@whiskerrub3821
@whiskerrub3821 5 жыл бұрын
I believe Ian has created the Otherworld in TXG as these eyes have never seen so many left handed putters to test and be fitted. It's great to see more focus on putter tech videos, as always well done. #inawe
@No_one_important22
@No_one_important22 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I have my phone on auto play while hitting balls in my room and heard the TXG intro music and got unnecessarily excited
@clifflattanzio5267
@clifflattanzio5267 5 жыл бұрын
How about a short review of the new Scotty Cameron Concept X 01 putter. Thanks for the great videos.
@neutrino61
@neutrino61 5 жыл бұрын
great Intro
@markcurry4327
@markcurry4327 4 жыл бұрын
Check out the Happy Putter. Should be a fitter's dream. Completely adjustable putter.
@zacharymilos392
@zacharymilos392 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome one guys. Would it ever be possible to do a video about how grip affects the stroke and the dynamics during? During fittings do you change out grips to see what works best?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
We can for sure, actually have that video planned for the near future
@laneevans7360
@laneevans7360 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Matty, new editing software? Visuals look great and that intro music is a banger! Great info as always! No big equipment questions this time other than this one (that I’ve had for a while actually): Matt, what kind of shoes are those? Them joints are fire 🔥🔥
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Nike Roshe!
@Your_Mailman_Grows_7121
@Your_Mailman_Grows_7121 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. What grip was on 1st putter the Scotty? Was it P2 or forward grip style putter grip?
@roberthampton6438
@roberthampton6438 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, great video again. I think that the various inserts all help, but the obvious thing is that if the delivery at impact is off, the money spent buying a new putter would be better spent on lessons imho.
@mangoman2148
@mangoman2148 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a video on selecting a grip and where that fits in the putter fitting equation? Your videos on grip selection for the other 13 clubs have been very insightful. Putters are where we see the biggest variations in size and shape of grip, so it would make for an interesting video.
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Will be doing that one for sure
@christiant8948
@christiant8948 4 жыл бұрын
Please review the Tommy Armour Impact #3 putter. Back to back MGS winner '18-'19, seems like there is something to the putter I would like Ian to dissect.
@timothydaniels504
@timothydaniels504 5 жыл бұрын
I need to re-think having my Wilson 8802 in the bag.
@tnjbrown
@tnjbrown 5 жыл бұрын
I know you guys have mentioned the PING putter app and cradle here, and in other videos... any advice where to get a cradle? They seem very hard to find for anything other than the iPhone 6 or iPod touches.. thoughts on where to get a cradle for other phone models?
@richardn8702
@richardn8702 4 жыл бұрын
Wanted to ask Ian's thoughts on putter face technology with Yes! (C-Groove) & Sik (Descending Loft technology)
@coobay978
@coobay978 4 жыл бұрын
I've used a lot of putters in the last 35 years and the single most thing that improved my putting instantly was the Super Stroke oversized grip.
@ThunderMk2
@ThunderMk2 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats first and foremost Ian 👶🏽 🎉🎊🎈 I was watching Eddie pepperal talk about his bettinardi yesterday on his “what’s in the bag” video and you touched on it before. It’s about a toe hand putter does not always close/rotate as much as some may think or in comparison to face balanced. What video was that of yours again?? I wanted to ask you also, why are fw wood and rescue wood shafts usually heavier than a driver? Cheers Guys
@ThunderMk2
@ThunderMk2 5 жыл бұрын
??
@joelfarris4303
@joelfarris4303 5 жыл бұрын
If you don't have access to a Quintic is there a way to pick the best face technology with only access to a roll board? Assuming forward shaft lean through impact is maintained, how do you pick between the EvnRoll 1.2 vs the O-Works #1. Both are plumbers neck blade putters. The biggest difference is the face.
@albertofernandez-sanguino3373
@albertofernandez-sanguino3373 5 жыл бұрын
WOW!! Great vid guys. Never realised it but the putter seems to be the most technical club in the entire bag.....Unfortunatley getting it right is extremely hit or miss for the average person, such as myself. We would all very much benefit from a putter fitting, me thinks!! But what is the name of the system you guys are using here? Would SAM Lab system be any good for a fitting? Would it work just as well?? Also will you be reviewing Ping putters at all? You mentioned the app and the TR inserts ......just wondering Keep up the great work...
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
This system is called Quintic, SAM is also good for fittings
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 5 жыл бұрын
Is Matt's consistency related to his cross-handed grip? I also use a cross-handed grip, and the putter is about the only club I could ever hit with any consistency. Belly putters were even easier, but now that they're gone, this isn't too much harder.
@jacobmccain8082
@jacobmccain8082 5 жыл бұрын
What Ping app are you talking about? I remember iPing from back in the day that I loved but I cant find it in the app store or cradles that will handle bigger phones. Any ideas?
@fergusreeverealestate.7409
@fergusreeverealestate.7409 5 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on centre shafted putters? Just personal preference or a reason for them? I like them- but don’t know why lol. I just know that my putting improved as soon as I started using my centre shafted putter last year.... maybe just confidence in my head...
@joelfarris4303
@joelfarris4303 5 жыл бұрын
By the intro of this video I thought we were going to get some information on the EvnRoll putters. I'm excited to see what you guys have to say about the face technology in that line of putters. Can we expect to see a video on that?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Yup will be doing that in the future
@joelfarris4303
@joelfarris4303 5 жыл бұрын
@@clubchampionmedia Awesome! Looking forward to it. Considering you guys carry them in the shop I've got to think they are a solid choice!
@waynemayo8399
@waynemayo8399 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've got my quintic fitting tomorrow, mallets tend to perform better for me but I prefer the look of a blade, should I just have an open mind ? Lastly, my grip is similar to Matt's in that I'm lead hand low, I struggle with AOA and either come in at zero are slightly down, is this because of the set up with lead hand low ?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Lead hand low will generally cause more forward shaft lean and less upward angle. And definitely keep as much of an open mind as possible, whatever gets the ball in the hole better!
@mjwidell
@mjwidell 5 жыл бұрын
Since Matt rolled the Futura so well, would you put him in a Jailbird, since the shapes are similar?
@ww-oo7ic
@ww-oo7ic 5 жыл бұрын
What do you prioritize if the player plays public courses that can vary? Public course green speed can vary so much in speed some courses i cant miss and others (like yesterday) are 3 putt city. My Putter is a club champion fitted Ping Sigma G Kushion with 4 degrees of loft (i lean the shaft forward)
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
In that case, we'd generally look for something moderate in terms of initial launch and forward roll, so it will perform well on slow or fast greens but not necessarily optimize for either.
@leomode2
@leomode2 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, why not use and compare FSX Putting Analysis or Trackman Putting?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Quintic is miles ahead of those systems in terms of accuracy and data provided.
@leomode2
@leomode2 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply! Same thing applies as FSX/TM with SAM Puttlab?
@brettd2181
@brettd2181 5 жыл бұрын
Test Evnroll putters next? Seems to have unique grooves with great reviews but nobody on tour is playing with them
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Tested one in our next putter video
@BlackNike24
@BlackNike24 5 жыл бұрын
I REALLY want to start using the ping app, but the cradles are hard to find. I have access to an iphone 7 and an iphone x (preferred). Any help would be great!!
@2222skinny
@2222skinny 5 жыл бұрын
ACal24 rubbber bands work
@ronyoung66
@ronyoung66 5 жыл бұрын
I have always been jealous of the guys with EvenRoll putters because I know it's designed with the intent to produce consistent distance and direction despite being toed or heeled. One of my problems with those putters is that they don't weigh enough for my liking. I also imagine those grooves are designed for the specific MOI of those heads and the stiffness of their particular shaft. The solution I am considering to try and get the EvenRoll result with a Scotty Cameron is to buy the 6M from this video, replace the existing head weights with my own heavier one's and add the stability shaft you reviewed a couple weeks ago. What do you think? Overkill? Mallet head resistant enough to twist without the stability shaft?
@ronyoung66
@ronyoung66 5 жыл бұрын
As always guys, really great content. Looking forward to as many putting videos as you can produce. I've put a lot of time and energy into improving the rest of my bag through technology/"fitting" but have ignored the putter for far too long. I'm looking to change that this winter.
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
We've got another video coming next week on toe hang Ronald, wait for that one before you make a decision!
@matthewn7287
@matthewn7287 5 жыл бұрын
Again, great video guys! Just an interesting idea for a future video if you guys wanna explore it or if you have any comments. I play a 9.5 degree driver (G25) and whenever I crank it up to 10 degrees, not only is the clubface closed, but it looks and acts like it's went to something like 12 degrees! My shots are sky high and spinnier even though I only adjusted it by 0.5 degrees. (It actually goes higher than another 10.5 degree driver that I have.) So I was just wondering whether it's possible that a standard 10/9/8etc. degree (stamped) driver can react so differently to a driver that's been adjusted (from hosel) to that same loft? Thanks in advance for any responses 🙂 Regards, Matt
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something might be wrong with the adjustable hosel, 0.5º shouldn't do a ton to the ball flight
@matthewn7287
@matthewn7287 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought lol. Just seems like there's a lot more than 0.5º added. Oh well, never mind. Thanks for the reply, just wanted to see whether you experienced it before. Have a good evening!
@jamesbriggsgolf6212
@jamesbriggsgolf6212 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Ng changing loft can alter lie in some manufacturers heads though, maybe the lie angle change influenced your clubhead delivery for the worse?
@matthewn7287
@matthewn7287 5 жыл бұрын
James Briggs Golf Hmmm, yeah. I think it might make it even more upright which isn't great since I'm a dwarf 😂 Will just work on what's best for me. Thx for your comment 👍🏾👍🏾
@mattmarsico2013
@mattmarsico2013 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Matt have a Bobby Grace putter in his bag over the O'Works? I may be remembering that wrong from his WITB, but it would seem odd since he keeps getting his best numbers from the O'Works in all of the putter videos you do.
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Been testing the Bobby Grace on the course, correct. Odyssey doesn't make all their head shapes in LH so that was the initial issue, probably find one to take on the course soon though.
@mattmarsico2013
@mattmarsico2013 5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense...forgot about the lack of lefty options. I'm looking forward to when Odyssey brings out the White Hot Microhinge insert in more heads than just their Exo line.
@MurphyGreg
@MurphyGreg 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, so how do I convince my wife I need to go to the big smoke to have an amazing state of the art fitting session and buy the recommended changes to current clubs. Ummmm couples get away week. Lol.
@Ethan1ize
@Ethan1ize 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely impossible for me to find a mount for sale for a newer iPhone to use the ping putting program 😧
@spotmfd9431
@spotmfd9431 5 жыл бұрын
Glue or secure a hose clamp(the small ones) to a cheap IPhone case.Use some type of strong binding glue. I used and epoxy glue. Make sure the clamp is level to the case. Then just fasten the clamp to the shaft. Use a level again to make sure phone is level to shaft. Works great for me. Will cost you under $10 dollars.
@Preacherzach
@Preacherzach 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it. I know you said that for Matt he delivers that odyssey putter consistent. But you did one put with the Scotty and he got what appears to be a bunch more green numbers/factors. So why is the odyssey better
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Just from a launch angle and forward roll perspective, the scotty was actually getting better delivery numbers.
@erflog
@erflog 5 жыл бұрын
Was wondering how wet ball/green affected the roll/slope on a putt...
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
hopefully something we can test at some point!
@austinsnider8864
@austinsnider8864 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll give ya an extra $50 if you make your way to Columbus, Ohio for my private putter fitting 😂 I’m the typical person who has spent tons on everything in my bag except using a putter from a Dunlop box set🤦🏽‍♂️
@CosmicApe
@CosmicApe 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just get a face-balanced mallet Bobby Grace putter?
@umat321
@umat321 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else download the PING app, but can't get it to work?
@Wesquire
@Wesquire 5 жыл бұрын
Rife says the ball being in a depression is more of a myth
@apaulmcdonough2170
@apaulmcdonough2170 2 жыл бұрын
It's NOT Embedded but the grass under the Ball does bend so the Ball does nestle in.
@jackbailey7184
@jackbailey7184 5 жыл бұрын
Not enough is made of putting on u-tube super vid.
@xRelyT1
@xRelyT1 5 жыл бұрын
Ok this intro need to stay
@ThunderMk2
@ThunderMk2 5 жыл бұрын
??
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
?
@ThunderMk2
@ThunderMk2 5 жыл бұрын
I put a question just underneath and I was looking for your opinion?
@johanmelander4521
@johanmelander4521 5 жыл бұрын
Why test this in a "lab" when you can spend 10 years using 20 different putters and wasting a shitload of money in order to find the right one? No pun intended! Didn't know there was more to putter fitting than hit a shitload of puts with different putters and purchase what Tiger has ;)
@seanpeacock5595
@seanpeacock5595 5 жыл бұрын
No amount of size, weight, design, material, soft, hard, color or technology has fixed my yips!
@keithfinley2939
@keithfinley2939 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or did Cameron lift that ugly head from the Frankly Frog?
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