„Right and wrong is determined by the victors.“

That sounds like some Oprah Winfrey bullshit. 'Personal truths' she calls them.

@@johannesneumayer6041 That's a cop-out. If it were true, then Jesus of Nazareth would have been long forgotten by now.

@@seanbigay1042 who’s that? I‘m not into sports.

@@johannesneumayer6041 Har har. Maybe it'd be more appropriate for me to mention this guy I ran into (so to speak) here on KZfaq. He insists that the Rape of Nanking and the Bataan Death March are fake news. Way he talked, he was just one of many people who think it's okay to deny history they don't like because it puts their side in a bad light, like the Rape, the March, and for all I know the Holocaust. Dunno if they were the victors in WW2, but they certainly have their own idea of right and wrong.

Understand, maybe. But agree with them? That's another can of worms entirely.

@@seanbigay1042 but most times, they offer the most human and plausible alternative.

@@yahwedalumiracleonwuneme The most human? The most plausible? Why? Because they reacted in the screwed-up way you've come to expect of most people? I've ranted in detail about Stanislav Petrov elsewhere in this thread, so let me try to keep this short. On September 26, 1983, the Soviet missile defense system appeared to detect five ICBM launches from the United States. Protocol demanded that then Lt. Col. Petrov, the duty officer in charge of the Soviet command bunker, immediately launch missiles in retaliation. But Petrov, thinking the matter over, decided the whole thing was a false alarm owing to the paltry number of missiles "launched." And he was right -- the system had managed to misidentify sunbeams as missiles. So. Are you going to tell me Lt. Col. Petrov's reaction was inhuman and implausible?

@@seanbigay1042 human amd plausible here means that it's most likely what we would go for if we have the opportunity they did. Take any movie villain for example, and compare it with an average human.

@@yahwedalumiracleonwunemeOn May 26, 2018, then 22-year-old Malian migrant Mamoudou Gossama scrambled four stories up the face of a block of flats on 51 rue Marx-Dormoy in Paris' 18th arrondissement in thirty seconds to save a four-year-old boy dangling from a balcony, a feat for which he was lauded as "the Spider-Man of Paris." So please don't tell me an average human can't be a hero. Or do I have to bring up the Tank Man of Tiananmen Square?

Yeah, but I don't like when they use their ideas to justify their terrible acts. I'd hardly say Heath Ledger's joker was "Completely in the right"

Saving people isn't reason enough for you?

shut up

​@@ebensennett3095for me vilain ate just more human than heroes. Being able to hold yourself everytime is not really do able and i know all of us at least one time take a really bad decision and cuz of fear or some shit like that decide to stick to that madness idea. They are just more relatable

@@ArnoldBayema So basically you find villains more relatable because they screw up and don't try to fix it when they do? What kind of attitude is that to take toward life? And please don't reply "realistic," because you'd be surprised how often doing the right thing and doing the "realistic" thing coincide -- it's what's called "enlightened self-interest," which by your own argument villains don't subscribe to.

He was betrayed by his master! He wanted to be respected and noticed for his abilities.

@@QuotePediaYT Thanks for replying

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@@QuotePediaYT BULLSHIT. He betrayed himself -- because he always believed it was ALL ABOUT HIM. You don't get respected and noticed for your abilities because you want to be. Respect and notice must be earned, fair and square. Remember this line? "Dormammu -- I've come to bargain!" Doc Strange locked himself and the extradimensional entity Dormammu in a stable time loop that always led back to that moment when he demanded Dormammu's attention. Dormammu could pound on Strange all he wanted, and did, and it wouldn't break the loop -- not least because Dormammu, a being from outside time and space, had no idea what time was. So after a few zillion times through the loop, Dormammu gave up out of sheer irritation and caved to Strange's demand to leave Earth alone. Now ask yourself: Would Tai Lung have been willing to do what Doc Strange did? I rather doubt it. It's all about him, remember? All about his getting the respect and notice and ADORATION he craved. But if there's no glory waiting for him -- remember, nobody but Doc Strange and his wizardly associates know what he did! -- then why would Tai Lung even care?

Tai Lung is strong in martial arts but his heart is weak Oogway saw it but Shifu didn't and neither did Tai Lung Tai is nothing more than any power hungry athlete wanting recognition for his talents, not knowing that martial arts requires a calm mind, a peaceful heart and a humble self.

God i fking love Ultron. Sux the movie didn't do too good

@@1Rhaast They made him a puppet for 13 yo kids to laugh....

Loved it!

That quote hits hard ima start using it everyday when people makes me mad and feel like I’m worthless

Name of the song?

​@@aahahshhshahahaj2364google yielded me: Don't Feel Pain By: Connor Quest & Joe Barnes Not sure or there's more songs containing this line though, nor or OP referenced this one. It is however a title I can offer the curious reader

@@Drag0nvil Life is a harness, and i have failed to harness it, all my attempts only made it more clearer that i am just a, person, a thing

Nice chuchi Madara quote

Except they all understand that they’re going about it the wrong way. Take Thanos, someone a lot of people like to point to as a heroic villain. He was clearly in the wrong, he could’ve wished for infinite resources but instead chose mass murder. He even shows regret that he even wants to do so. They all consider themselves tragic villains.

@@MontycelA yes, of course. But it doesn't change the fact that if you build your villain this way, they will be more endearing, and more understandable.

@@MontycelA I've never heard anyone think that way about Thanos, they all say his plan was moronic and that's because his real reason was butchered, he just wanted to woo Death, it's really that simple.

Sandman Spiderman 3

Watch the lastest video on my channel! It has quotes from some amazing game villains! VAAS is also there. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLl8nbSHqrfLmZc.html

I'm a simple man, I see Vaas I hit like

0 OOGWAY A TROLL & SHiFU A BiTCH. THAT'Z WHAT iT iS. & SHiFU BiTCHED UP WHEN iT MATTERED MOZT ! NO WONDER TAi LUNG WAZ MAD 1 [MAYBE THEN HE COULD'VE FOUND ENLiGHTENMENT AND REALiSED WHY HE WASN'T CHOSEN] DRAGON SCROLL WAZ A REFLECTiON JACKASS. EVEN PO, THE 1 OOGWAY DiD APPOiNT, DiDN'T GET iT 2 HiZ TREACHEROUZ GOOFY AZZ DAD WAZ THE 1 THAT REVEALED iT TO HiM. BY ACCiDENT NO FUCKiNG LEZZ ! BUT PO HAD TO PiECE iT TOGETHER. AiN'T NO ENLiGHTENMENT TO B FOUND ON WHY HE WAZN'T CHOSEN, OTHER THAN SOMEONE NOT TELLiNG HiM THE TRUTH SOONER, OOGWAY!! [NOT YELLiNG, SURPRiSiNGLY ENOUGH, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAP]

You just spoiled kfp4 congratulations want a dumpling

@@thenoobreturnz8968 …do you have one?

⁠@@thenoobreturnz8968how did he spoil a movie that's been out for ages now? Kfp4 is NOT about Tai Lung.

@dom-tc2ch you can look it up kfp4 is going to be about Tai lung. And that movie hasn't even been released yet lmao

What -- the villain's perspective is accurate because it's cruel? Because no individual's life matters, and we should each be out for ourselves alone? Tell that to Stanislav Petrov. On September 26, 1983, the Soviet Union's nuclear early warning system appeared to report the launch of an ICBM from the United States, with four more immediately following. But then Lt. Col. Petrov, on duty at the Serpakov-15 bunker near Moscow housing the system's command center, felt sure it was a false alarm. He was sure enough that he did not launch a counterstrike -- and in fact, he was right. That day, Petrov proved himself, in NASA parlance, a "steely-eyed missileman." His calm resolve prevented World War III. And it's because of him that we're even around to debate the pros and cons of villains' beliefs on the Internet. So don't ever tell me nobody's life matters. Or that each of us should only look out for ourselves.

​@@seanbigay1042i think you misunderstand what he said... its not accurate cause its cruel its cruel cause its accurate, no one said to be selfish people are just inherently selfish out of survival

@@gohan2791 "Villains have the most cruel reality perspective in life which is accurate." What's to misunderstand about that? He says villains' perspective in life is accurate because it's cruel. For that matter, you just said people are inherently selfish out of survival. Is that so? On May 26, 2018, then 22-year-old Malian migrant Mamoudou Gassama scrambled four stories up the face of a block of flats on 51 rue Marx-Dormay in Paris' 18th arrondissement, in thirty seconds, to save a four-year-old boy dangling from a balcony. For this feat he was hailed far and wide as the Spider-Man of Paris. Why did he do it? Not for the reward, though he was subsequently made a French citizen and took up a ten-month contract as a firefighter. As he explained to President Emmanuel Macron, he couldn't NOT do it -- he saw the boy and leapt to the rescue without further thought for himself or anything else but the boy's danger. Now, not everyone can rise to the occasion as Gassama did. There was a whole crowd milling at the foot of that block of flats, but only Gassama made a move. But don't you think that sometime, somewhere, someone will face an emergency and be moved by the story of the Spider-Man of Paris to do the right thing? Maybe we all start out selfish for the sake of survival. But we don't have to stay that way. We're better than we think we are. And it's heroes who teach us this. Not villains.

​@@gohan2791Life's is not cruel, it's indifferent, you just think it's cruel, because you are not winning.

@@gohan2791 The biggest thing that makes a villain a villain isn't their ideals, but the way they act on those ideals. It is fine to recognize the corruption of the world...but to hurt people, often who aren't even the intended targets, is really the wrong way to solve the problem. Usually villains aren't even trying to solve the problem they are pointing out...they are just lashing out which just makes them part of the problem.

Neither are losers always right. There was this guy styling himself N. Smith who told me, here on KZfaq, that neither the Rape of Nanking nor the Bataan Death March happened -- that all that stuff was fake news spread by the Allies. Now, the Rape of Nanking did happen. So did the Death March. And so, for that matter, did the Holocaust -- something else I'm sure N. Smith denies happened. Note that it isn't a winner saying all this stuff.

yup I hated it when people would say the devil made him/her do it when something evil would happen like seriously you really believe a red guy with horns from storie books did this no the real devil's of this would is (but not all) is society

True devil only tempts and bring suggestions, he doesn't move or control bodies like puppets it's humans choice

BALLS. GOOD people love heroes. BAD people love villains.

​@@seanbigay1042their is nothing about so much good.antiheroes are always better

@@rajibbiswas1752 Sorry for the outburst, but I stand by what I wrote. Did you read what I wrote elsewhere in this thread about Stanislav Petrov? No? Then here goes: On September 26, 1983, the Soviet Union's missile defense system appeared to register an ICBM launch from the United States, followed by four more. Had the duty officer at the Soviet system's command bunker followed orders without pausing to think, he would've launched missiles in "retaliation" (note the quotes), the Americans would have retaliated in return, World War III would have happened, and we wouldn't be here to argue the pros and cons of heroism or anything else, being too dead to argue. But then-Lt. Col. Petrov was the duty officer at the time. He reasoned that the Amis wouldn't launch a mere five missiles when they had five THOUSAND ready to go, and that the apparent detection was a glitch. So, he didn't respond. And guess what? He turned out to be right. The system had somehow misread sunbeams as missile launches. Lt. Col. Petrov had been what NASA calls a "steely-eyed missileman" -- he remained calm and rational under conditions that virtually mandated his freaking out. And because he did, he prevented World War III from happening. He saved us all. Now going back to your statement, if by "antiheroes" you meant "people with hang-ups like ordinary mortals," then I can't argue with you there. People who feel fear under stress are more relatable than people who feel nothing. Even Superman feels fear, praying, "Oh God, don't let me screw up." (Certainly the Superman of the new Adult Swim toon does.) But courage isn't the lack of fear. It's all in how you use that fear, and not let it use you. If Lt. Col. Petrov had given way to his fears, the world would have ended. But he didn't. If you're going to argue that someone who didn't react as Lt. Col. Petrov did would have made for a more interesting character ... then, IMHO, I'm afraid you have some major issues to contend with.

What you will call Oppenheimer huh?he was a villain or not?.somehow relatiable.Nowadays youths are watching basically bts etc stuff.i am not complaining about it.its okay in some point.they even dont know histroy.bullshit social media stuff.they think they are smart so much.Even vincent vin Gogh suffered so much.this society ignorance is bliss.

Sympathize, maybe. Admire and agree with? That's something else.

Well given Kung Fu panda 4 will have him return, maybe there is a slight chance for him to be redeemed.

@@BanishedSilentShadow3318Nope!:(

That does actually sound very frustrating to say the least.

Thanks you writing this big of a comment. I will try to find this and add it in a future video.

You mean Wakfu

Doesn't he end up only being able to go back a short time though, it kinda makes all he did wrong worse and would have made th Mc complicit if he'd stood aside and let it fail.

Are you talking about the arc in which Nox went around murdering people for the "wakfu" in order to collect enough to go back in time? And then he pushed through with his plan, and found all the wakfu he'd collected sufficed only to send him a few minutes back in time rather than the many years he was hoping for? But even if he'd succeeded, he'd still be in the wrong. IMHO his reasoning boils down to, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." Which is bupkis.

I like that explanation.

Heros are those that never gave up against the bad that happend against them. Vilains gave up and became the evil.

​@@Chambi10614such a naive look on the world

@@narrow3601 Nah

Nah,he had enough patience with the wait...

@@SERP3NTERcap

@@MontycelA no cap bruh

He was patient all his life. It was literally denied of him right in his face. That patience he had since a literal child was all for nothing, that's why he went rampant. All that training, suffering, just for another man's dream.

He was It was after oogway say no he changed

Sindro or Syndrome? As in the little bastard who was so fixated on become Mr. Incredible's sidekick that he got in Mr. Incredible's way, thereby endangering all the people Mr. Incredible was trying to help? And when Mr. Incredible rejected him for this, he grew up to be an embittered whack-job prepared to slaughter superheroes wholesale in order to train the super-robot he'd built to fake feats of super-heroism and get the glory that was all he ever wanted? None of this is even remotely admirable.

Well apparently Tai Lung is coming back in Kung Fu Panda 4. So there is a chance he could still get a redemption arc.

He mightve actually learned inner peace in the spirit realm with oogway after he was freed from kai

Because villains are often masks of the authors. People who have actually lived.

Thats true but damn some of the quotes and moments hit harder then they should

Any chance you could share the source? Looking for a new fanfic to read.

​@@GurenZ01I would like to know to.

That's pretty much true, like even his name means "great dragon" which I'm sure Shifu wanted Tai Lung to be the dragon warrior. It's pretty sad how shifu did abandon him when all shifu could've did that day was consult with his adopted son, that even if he didn't get the name "dragon warrior" he's still proud of him. Atleast something like that, which shifu could do still since Tai Lung is returning in Kung Fu Panda 4

God represents good, Satan represents evil, while we’re complicated, insane, and usually choose what’s easy for ourselves

The hardest choice anyone can make is choosing to recognize their own faults and flaws and move forward

@@jamestolbert1856 Truth

@@jamestolbert1856 Precisely -- and it's one thing the villains in this piece all share: They are incapable of saying the simple words, "It's my fault."

Good and Evil do exist, and I'm not saying that because I'm religious. No matter which way you put it, there's constructive and destructive. There's Right and Wrong. There's violence, and force. Violence is merely force without good reasons. To deny evil exists is to commit evil. By not recognizing wrong, you will never do anything right.

Idk if you should really emphasize with the joker lol

Hope fully only emotions

I just went looking for the scene and found the comparison video. This is very true, thank you for that.

Exactly. Syndrome effectively rewrote his own memory in order to justify himself.

True!

yeah, it just shows how pathetic humanity is. I use his quote to directly link with that from Dracula(2011 I think) - Sometimes humanity does not deserve a Hero to look up too, they deserve a MONSTER to fear. If you see a ''Hero'' and wish to see them fail, to watch their downfall, then you do not deserve that HERO, you deserve them to become the monster you have all feared. The Superman idea, given up trying to help humanity, as no matter what he does, he can't change anything and suffering always continues - so he simply now takes charge of THE PLANET, and humanity now is in a dictatorship planet wide under his control.

It's literally been disproven by the very movie though where the citizens helped Peter when he tried saving both MJ and the kids in the bridge. Not at all people mind you since Norman too is human and he wants to see Peter suffer by doing bad things against him. People who uses this quote and fail to realize its not absolute are living red flags themselves.

​@@silenthero2795But that doesn't debunked goblins quote because that's what happen to Tom's Spiderman when mysterio made him look like villan despite being sacrificing himself and turning into dust for 5 years and then fighting for the whole universe people at the end starts hating him just because of one misunderstanding society will blinding believe in what they see and hear that's how most of human logic works people will only hear from one side and decide what is right and what is wrong

​@@Manish_sahu1 In Mysterio's case, most people thought he was a superhero so to them, Spider-man just killed a fellow superhero after causing such destruction using Stark tech. The people don't hate Spider-man for being Spider-man but for his supposed actions. Aside from that, there will always be people going against Spiderman because that's who they are. It's crazy that in the MCU, Peter couldn't easily prove his innocence when he has the whole Avengers backing him up.

I feel villains have seen more pain than heroes.

Maybe yes or... maybe no Villain is just a word for those who want to live in a better word of their imagination. They might seen more pain than heroes but sometime heroes know more about pain than them

That’s a lie, there’s always a choice. Madara, thanos, and syndrome never even had to hurt anyone. The joker kinda did given that subway scene where he would’ve been killed, but other than that he just likes killing people. Tai lung was misguided but that isn’t an excuse to start trying to get an irl kill streak. All of these villains are so petty, that’s why they’re villains. They disguise lies under truth to cover up the reality they’ve molded for themselves. I hate when people say things like “society made them do it” nobody makes you do anything, in the end it’s your finger behind the trigger, and your choice to pull it. It’s not that hard to understand.

@@icemoon_yiio2345No it isn’t.

@@QuotePediaYT Batman, Starlord, Wolverine, Damian Wayne, a lot of robins, spider man, Deadpool, Luke Skywalker, and Guts would like to disagree. Not to mention all the ones I either forgot or don’t know of

True, he wasn't upset that he didn't get the scroll, he was upset, that Shifu didn't help him come to terms with his broken dream.

The future is screwed bozo look at the recent movies lmao.

More like Disney hasn’t learned that lesson, always unable to accept what can be without their Wokeness everywhere

three if you count Phenix

Voldemort? Nah

Hero: “You’re right.”

I disagree, while some villains did become evil from circumstance Syndrome wasn't "made" bad. He worshiped Mr. Incredible and despite being able to use his genius for good chose to murder dozens of heros to one-up his former favorite even when he had Mr. Incredible at his mercy he didn't kill him instead he just gloated that he won and instead of stopping since his point was proven actively chose to attack innocent civilians to play pretend. I can see why Mr. Incredible pushed Buddy away, he didn't want a child getting hurt or killed on his watch and it's clear that it wasn't the first time Buddy interfered with his hero work. Him accidently letting Bomboyage get away to hurt/kill more people, cause a train wreck and it being his wedding night didn't help Buddy's impression of usefulness, though telling the kid "I work alone" shouldn't have torn him apart like that since it seems he was rejected quite frequently though if Mr. Incredible explained that Buddy had a bomb attached to him and gave him a chance to look forward to for 'training' when he was more mature it might have helped then again his parents should have warned him of the dangers of hero worship.

@@starkiller1289 That's true. I wasn't referring Buddy to be good or bad. I don't know how old Buddy is but he seems like he's almost a teen but a childs biggest role model is who they look up to. Maybe he doesn't have a father so he looked up to Mr.Incredible like one. Mr.Incredible pushed Buddy away a lot even though Buddy shouldn't have done it continuesly Mr.Incredible could have taken a different approach. You can see Buddy wants to be a sidekick and wanted to be a hero. Buddy is a smart kid to have made rocket boots but he is only smart when he is inventing or making things to make himself look like a hero but not smart enough to understand things going on around him. For all we know he could have been rejected by all the other supers and he thought Mr.Incredible was his best choice. Buddy was torn apart when Mr.Incredible told him he worked alone. So Buddy tried to fly off trying to prove he was worthy to Mr.Incredible. Buddy was probably desperate and wanted to try one more time but Mr.Incredible stopped him because of the bomb and Buddy thought Mr.Incredible was stopping him from becoming a hero. Buddy was framed as a bad guy because he was in a police car. Buddy desperately wanted to become a hero so he killed off the other heroes and tried to prove Mr.Incredible a point. Buddy desperately wanted to become famous and show how good he was. So he killed off the other heroes so he was more noticeable and became the one and only hero. But he doesn't care about heroes anymore and only wanted to become famous seeing heroes have powers and Buddy doesn't. Buddy desperately wants to become famous or a hero so he tries to kidnap Jack Jack at the end. He wanted a sidekick that he wanted to be. To be honest I don't think Buddy deserved to die in the plane propellers. He must have had so much hatred and tried to get what he wanted even though it wasn't the right thing. His mum not helping him and most likely ignoring him and having his idol tell him he doesn't need him in a bad tone. Buddy could have made up for everything at the end but people would still hate him. Buddy would have gone to prison either way and would have helped getting rid of supers in the future of he was still mad. Mr.Incredible probably doesn't know Buddy died in the propeller but he didn't care. If Buddy survived from it and saw Mr.Incredible still didn't care he would become very villainous. Buddy was a misguided child and because he was younger he chose a different path. I don't remember saying he was made bad or if it was a typo.

Make them bad as in something got them upset and that's why they chose a different path

Hard to explain

That’s a lie

That's call irony!

Nah, jokers insane