Re-Making My NBA G.O.A.T Pyramid

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@m4dm3th0d
@m4dm3th0d Жыл бұрын
This is definitely a list worth revisiting every 3-5 years
@jamalrobinson8321
@jamalrobinson8321 Жыл бұрын
Yearly
@matthewdowling6549
@matthewdowling6549 Жыл бұрын
@@jamalrobinson8321 Yearly is too often
@khaitranngoc4176
@khaitranngoc4176 Жыл бұрын
Now, this is spitting. Every 10 years there should be around 3 remakes of this.
@yokenii6417
@yokenii6417 Жыл бұрын
for real 3 years is perfect
@ThinkingDisorder
@ThinkingDisorder Жыл бұрын
3 is crazy every 4 minimum tho
@ewbait
@ewbait Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I didn't realize how high I was on Giannis until you showed me the stats in retrospect. Giannis having this much offensive and defensive pressure and efficiency in this era is insane to think about. Rightfully deserved!
@l9ikjam
@l9ikjam Жыл бұрын
His defense is overrated
@user-lt1zz3zi4m
@user-lt1zz3zi4m Жыл бұрын
@@l9ikjam ur one of those people who love to argue because you like disagreement😂😂😂. He is a great defender, because he is hard to shoot over and is a great help defender
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 Жыл бұрын
@@user-lt1zz3zi4m Lol.. He's not wrong. Top tier defensive player would've tried to guard Kd especially when he's the only star left on the opponent team. Giannis let Tucker to guard him even on the last possession that would've cost his team a series against an injury-depleted Nets team. Glad that the Lady Luck was upon him that night that Kd happened not to hit a 3 or else it would be a downright embarrassment for Giannis to lose that series.
@user-lt1zz3zi4m
@user-lt1zz3zi4m Жыл бұрын
@@judyclarkson5887 everyone keeps saying that if Kd had kyrie and healthy harden he would beat giannis …. If you switched teams and gave Gianni’s a healthy harden and Kyrie he would’ve won as well. Also Giannis didn’t want to tire out offensively, that’s why he didn’t guard Kd. This worked obviously because he dropped 40 points in a game 7
@CeIles
@CeIles Жыл бұрын
@@judyclarkson5887 you wanted Giannis to guard one of the most offensively talented player of all time while also running the entire offense at the same time? Brother, not even MJ did that
@BaoPham-bp2cg
@BaoPham-bp2cg 11 ай бұрын
Jokic will definitely be added here in the next pyramid update.
@shyjr3215
@shyjr3215 9 ай бұрын
I would say he’s tier 4 for now after his championship run
@Anzarranza
@Anzarranza 7 ай бұрын
Giannis and jokic will be in tier 3 in the next one or two updates
@traytyler9951
@traytyler9951 4 ай бұрын
@@Anzarranzanot tier 3 yet tier 4
@filipgaier4908
@filipgaier4908 3 ай бұрын
@@traytyler9951 definitely tier 3 at this point, if the next update is in 2 years from now, tier 3 isn't even a hot take
@FordKids
@FordKids 3 ай бұрын
That was a month a few months ago before all this happens not present day remember that
@matthewcdupre
@matthewcdupre Жыл бұрын
Might have to add Jokic to the list after this last playoff run and recent Championship 🏆 dude was unreal
@sonny4978
@sonny4978 11 ай бұрын
i think jokic over kawhi. 2 mvps, and his playoff run was more impressive than toronto. Also he had no all stars like kawhi did with the spurs.
@BroOk-mh4do
@BroOk-mh4do 10 ай бұрын
We'll see what else he can do in the next couple of years...But Jokic definitely deserves to be in the pyramid.
@-waqsa
@-waqsa 9 ай бұрын
@@sonny4978that’s wild tbh. maybe after another ring and if he stays as consistent as he is, he prob will overtake kawhi, but for now he just doesn’t have as much longevity as kawhi.
@dr.kingmessanger1196
@dr.kingmessanger1196 8 ай бұрын
Cut the jokes man. Joker getting catapult to the upper echelon of all time great is based off what. One year. The dude took 4 years to make a real impact in his career. He only became all star caliber for the last 5 years. Let wait for the next 3 to 5 years to unfold before we have this discussion. Not given the soft rules, handcuffing defense, analytics basketball era. Give great assistance to good offensive players today. He not only need to match Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem,Bird resume but blow them out the waters. Considerig the advantages he has
@AgentZeroO
@AgentZeroO 8 ай бұрын
Jokic is top 20 already
@daultonredhaus6027
@daultonredhaus6027 Жыл бұрын
The way he said "The gap between LeBron and Jordan is smaller than the gap between LeBron and everyone else." really puts it into perspective how great they both are.
@jbailey690
@jbailey690 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
@sween3716
@sween3716 Жыл бұрын
@@jbailey690 what’s funny about that?
@flightjam
@flightjam Жыл бұрын
Kobe is in that convo with Jordan and LeBron
@jbailey690
@jbailey690 Жыл бұрын
@Sween Majority of players say Kareem was better?? 🤷 AI, TMac, Timmy, Shaq, Hakeem, Vince, MJ, Bird, Magic, Steph, KD, Dirk, Barkley, KG, Ray, Wade etc all take Kobe over Bron?? What ISN'T funny about that nonsense??
@trainpushingtutorials2822
@trainpushingtutorials2822 Жыл бұрын
@@flightjam jordan and mj 😭
@Arrica101
@Arrica101 Жыл бұрын
Luka and Jokic definitely making this list next time it's looked at. How can they not
@brandonbrisson4455
@brandonbrisson4455 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@KurinKato1
@KurinKato1 Жыл бұрын
Accolades
@biigasian
@biigasian Жыл бұрын
Just give Luka time, he has a decade to perform
@chev5451
@chev5451 Жыл бұрын
@@KurinKato1 2021 mvp, 2022mvp? what are these if not accolades
@GoofyGeee
@GoofyGeee Жыл бұрын
I feel like all time russ is better than Jokic all time
@sesimie
@sesimie Жыл бұрын
I respect this pyramid. The only player I have issues with being too low is Tim Duncan.
@williammyers2190
@williammyers2190 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Seriously putting him in tier 3 is crazy. Tier 2 is more correct
@dro2drippy781
@dro2drippy781 Жыл бұрын
I swear his career accolades and accomplishments are nearly identical to Kobe
@samcremin1486
@samcremin1486 Жыл бұрын
Eh, I feel like Hakeem and Shaq are better tbh and when you actually look at it him and KG did similar stuff at similar levels on the court for a long time so having them 2 tiers apart is just criminal.
@dro2drippy781
@dro2drippy781 Жыл бұрын
@@samcremin1486 Timmy has 5 rings 😂 Hakeem only won cause Jordan retired for 2 years if we’re being honest . Shaq never won shit without another superstar on his team
@samcremin1486
@samcremin1486 Жыл бұрын
@@dro2drippy781Hakeem had worse teammates and Duncan never won in a year he had to deal with a dynasty either, in the 94 and 95 seasons he didn’t have a teammate selected for the all star game. If we actually break down their games Hakeem is a comparable if not better rim protector, much better perimeter defender, is a better post scorer and a similar passer. Duncan’s only advantage is his pretty significantly better longevity so if you value that highly then he has a decent argument but he’s not a full tier above Hakeem. Shaq was the better player during the three peat and he undoubtedly peaked higher, in my eyes it just didn’t work out for him in other years but he was probably the best in the world for most of his career.
@Mattball82
@Mattball82 Жыл бұрын
Watching this during the Finals where Jokic has 10 triple doubles in the playoffs and just went 32 21 and 10 💪
@kevinsyz1201
@kevinsyz1201 Жыл бұрын
i love seeing dirk being moved up. definitely an extremely underated player
@kofiowusu1273
@kofiowusu1273 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s underrated but wade is definitely better
@Snipezelite02
@Snipezelite02 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Wade is definitely better but he does value peak alot
@andreasdietzel5560
@andreasdietzel5560 Жыл бұрын
Especially when you factor in his loyalty and not chasing superteams like almost everybody else.
@xdadaxx1040
@xdadaxx1040 Жыл бұрын
Dirk is a top 3 PF of all time
@CollinMann04
@CollinMann04 Жыл бұрын
@@kofiowusu1273 nah lmao he’s not
@blakelevario6732
@blakelevario6732 Жыл бұрын
luka definitely going to be on this in a few years. dude is a monster
@swake0312
@swake0312 Жыл бұрын
nah he will have a james harden esque career if he doesnt fix that ego
@ajako19
@ajako19 Жыл бұрын
@@swake0312 lol wtf? yall just hating lol. luka is going to be an all time great.
@solsburyhill
@solsburyhill Жыл бұрын
@@swake0312 if you saw how bad his team is… you would know that he’s too generous to them
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 Жыл бұрын
@@ajako19 Lol everybody has just seen that stupid Harden comparison and goes around parroting it. Don’t worry about people speaking this nonsense, Luka is a bonafide superstar and will win multiple rings.
@cjtrules1
@cjtrules1 Жыл бұрын
@@izzy031096 Mavs better get their shit together then or Luka will leave to a better team. Top 30 is already crowded as we can all see. Only 9 guys up there won 1 ring or none at all so Luka will definitely need at least 2 to even be considered.
@zackk8056
@zackk8056 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a G.O.A.T Pyramid for those who never won a chip. Would make for some interesting debates. I think peak McGrady is highly underrated from that perspective.
@Zach-eb6zk
@Zach-eb6zk 7 ай бұрын
For me based on eye test and pure skill, prime D Rose was the greatest player to not win a chip.
@ezxdray-jq3mh
@ezxdray-jq3mh 7 ай бұрын
John Stockton
@orod4788
@orod4788 7 ай бұрын
Steve Nash babyyyy let’s goooo
@matheusfroehlich5727
@matheusfroehlich5727 7 ай бұрын
​@@Zach-eb6zknah harden, malone, iverson, hell even barkley had an better peak than drose (not to mention that a 4 year prime is pathetically sort)
@morrisparrish76
@morrisparrish76 5 ай бұрын
Teams win “a chip”; not a player! You might want to keep that in mind!
@ballsballsballs3617
@ballsballsballs3617 6 ай бұрын
Mad respect for kawhi being in it. If u look at numbers he has no case. But if u watched kawhi play u would know he was the only guy in the Lebron era that genuinely felt comparable in terms of changing an entire teams hope
@thecoolwaffle4908
@thecoolwaffle4908 Жыл бұрын
You make some of the most well written, researched, and edited content on KZfaq. Consistently Top-Tier content, I look forward to every video you drop
@ghoull_
@ghoull_ Жыл бұрын
nah fr
@HelloHowsItGoin09
@HelloHowsItGoin09 Жыл бұрын
Never lacks its crazy
@paulh.9937
@paulh.9937 Жыл бұрын
@@HelloHowsItGoin09 the man's editing is some of the best I've ever seen on a basketball channel. Jimmy is the 🐐
@IamRonaldBell
@IamRonaldBell Жыл бұрын
Nah frfr, you can always tell by the opening lines it’s gone be a great video off the dribble
@PIP...33
@PIP...33 Жыл бұрын
@@paulh.9937 NAAAH HE BIASED AND JUST REPEATING WHAT MEDIA TOLD HIM. HE DOESNT KNOW SPORT. ANYONE WHO NOT PUT WILT NUMBER 1 AND OLAJUWON NUMBER 2 IS BLIND.
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell Жыл бұрын
I swear you're one of very few people that can make a tier list without being attacked on where you put them.
@yeatdagoat173
@yeatdagoat173 Жыл бұрын
Cuz he's very rational
@bigsleepy9889
@bigsleepy9889 Жыл бұрын
Naw bro. This list was garbage as soon as I didn't see the real G.O.A.T on it.... Austin Reaves
@csanadhorvath
@csanadhorvath Жыл бұрын
Durant on tier 3 is insane, he won rings with the greatest team ever, that won without him. Durant is on a tier with Malone and Stockton, very good player, defo top 30 of all time, but won no legit rings as far as legit rings go unfortunately.
@evergreatest1170
@evergreatest1170 Жыл бұрын
Idk man I wouldn’t put kawhi in the pyramid at all and like the guy said above KD is way too high as well
@csanadhorvath
@csanadhorvath Жыл бұрын
Also Duncan not being on tier 2 is basketball blasphemy...
@Yomi4220
@Yomi4220 Жыл бұрын
Duncan not in tier two is wild lmao
@Jiturra01
@Jiturra01 Жыл бұрын
Honestly its more like Kobe shouldn't be over Duncan, whatever tier. It's so odd, and the first thing I notice. People seem to be waking up to this recently..... not getting taken well by the LAL Fans and the casuals understandably.
@qiaoji1675
@qiaoji1675 9 ай бұрын
him and b russ should be switched
@froyocrew
@froyocrew 4 ай бұрын
Kobe is the single most overrated player of all time
@jacoblee5796
@jacoblee5796 28 күн бұрын
@@froyocrew Kobe is an all time great player, there is no doubt about that. But that said, Kobe is insanely overrated, he is easily the most overrated player of all time.
@Frannccis
@Frannccis 16 күн бұрын
​@@jacoblee5796Go cry about it
@spurslegacy
@spurslegacy Жыл бұрын
Man Tim Duncan…underrated by the masses. Has a near identical resume to Kobe yet constantly ranks multiple spots lower. There aren’t 9 players “GREATER” than him all time.
@jan279
@jan279 Жыл бұрын
So true, and I think that's because he wasn't as marketable as the other dudes. Spurs were the most consistent winning team in the league throughout Duncan's career.
@KFire
@KFire Жыл бұрын
Agreed, he should definitely be in tier 2
@spurslegacy
@spurslegacy Жыл бұрын
@@jan279 yup exactly. Flash and self promotion influence people’s opinions on the production for some reason.
@spurslegacy
@spurslegacy Жыл бұрын
@@KFire facts
@samcremin1486
@samcremin1486 Жыл бұрын
KG even more underrated, comparable to Duncan in nearly every aspect but he had terrible teammates and bad injury luck so he doesn’t even make top 10 on most lists and top 20 on some.
@Peekul1
@Peekul1 Жыл бұрын
Giannis is all time great. No one can take that finals performance away from him. The best of the best.
@mikeoath9541
@mikeoath9541 Жыл бұрын
In a couple years he will be best PF of all time, but so far Tim Duncan is the GOAT of the PFs imo.
@PIP...33
@PIP...33 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeoath9541 LUIS SCOLA >>> DUNCAN. FACTS ARE FACTS. U CANT SPEAK HERE TILL DUNCAN WIN AGAINST SCOLA
@yuhhh2593
@yuhhh2593 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeoath9541 for sure timmy d is the goat rn
@MichaelM-yf5or
@MichaelM-yf5or Жыл бұрын
hell end up tier 2 at least when its all said and done
@yuhhh2593
@yuhhh2593 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelM-yf5or maybe. I’d say more likely he’ll end up top 10
@joaopedroramos4015
@joaopedroramos4015 Жыл бұрын
can’t wait to see luka cracking this list from the ground up
@javigar133
@javigar133 Жыл бұрын
Well, he has a lot of road to travel lol
@kylemathis1562
@kylemathis1562 Жыл бұрын
At the end of this season Doncic: 4x NBA All Star 4x NBA First Team Now he just needs MVPs, FMVPs, Defensive Team appearances
@equilibrium_69
@equilibrium_69 Жыл бұрын
Only misfortune can detract Luka from his path to basketball greatness. The man is a potential top 10 player all time.
@AnkitSharma-qm7sg
@AnkitSharma-qm7sg Жыл бұрын
@@kylemathis1562 chips
@YaThat.
@YaThat. Жыл бұрын
@@kylemathis1562 atleast 6 all nba and all star selections, atleast 1 chip, then we can consider it.
@ThePharcyde13
@ThePharcyde13 Жыл бұрын
Duncan is tier 2 , him and Kobe had similar careers and he’s on 3 while Kobe stays in 2 . They definitely both left their mark . Duncan deserves a little more love . Magic could be a little lower too imo
@ben.tanner
@ben.tanner Жыл бұрын
Agree. Kobe definitely overrated compared to Duncan and others. Kobe benefited more from great teammates (Shaq in particular) than a lot of the guys in the pyramid.
@MarkHalberstram
@MarkHalberstram 10 ай бұрын
Swap Kobe and Timmy
@MotoM1234
@MotoM1234 8 ай бұрын
Agree that Kobe is overrated but then when you hear the respect that other NBA players have for him even before he died makes me think I’m wrong…. Would have Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan over Kobe….
@kaki2053
@kaki2053 3 ай бұрын
Ain't no way Durant in the same tier as Shaq and Timmy 😂
@jaycob1830
@jaycob1830 Ай бұрын
It should be Dr J in that tier, not Durant
@sirscribble3182
@sirscribble3182 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see Jxmmy give Dr. J his flowers. He gets overlooked a lot because he played in the 70’s and early 80’s.
@Tethloach1
@Tethloach1 Жыл бұрын
someone will always get overlooked.
@SalKhayer
@SalKhayer Жыл бұрын
Also, ABA records are not valued enough in the majority of these lists. Jxmy does a great job getting it put in perspective
@alexutzuRTA94
@alexutzuRTA94 Жыл бұрын
Glad you showed Moses some love. That tier 5 placement was really sticking out
@Major.321
@Major.321 Жыл бұрын
Freal he’s top 10 on score board
@kleatise52
@kleatise52 Жыл бұрын
Most underrated in history.
@javigar133
@javigar133 Жыл бұрын
Torallt agree
@buzz2k535
@buzz2k535 Жыл бұрын
One of the best rebounder and he got small hands i think his hand size are just as big as a 5'9 man and he's 6'10. Truly one of the greatest bigman!
@StFigarlandGarling
@StFigarlandGarling Жыл бұрын
#10 all time in scoring #5 all time in rebounding 3 MVPs Finals MVP How was he only in tier 5 until now.
@KillToSurvive35
@KillToSurvive35 Жыл бұрын
Undervaluing 5 time NBA champ, and best power forward of all time, Tim Duncan
@Fredkt17
@Fredkt17 Жыл бұрын
Dominique Wilkins should have gotten an honorable mention. The man had some of the greatest duels with Jordan and Bird (Tier 1 and 2)
@multimus133
@multimus133 Жыл бұрын
At first I was confused when DWade was demoted, trying desperately to remember any shooting guards better, as I always had Jordan 1, Kobe 2, and Wade 3, then I saw that there were only three shooting guards on the list and it all made sense.
@randomperson2540
@randomperson2540 Жыл бұрын
Still though wade shouldn't be demoted, other than longevity which he just said he appreciated peek more, there no reason to have dirk Over wade. If the majority of people really believe dirk is better than wade, dirk is officially overrated
@xenonite2172
@xenonite2172 Жыл бұрын
@@randomperson2540 I mean dirk lead his team to better post season success than wade did as a first option. Remember wade never came out of the first round after the 2006 finals. Add on to the fact that the 2000's western conf. Is probably the hardest conf. In nba history and that's why you'd pick dirk over wade
@nbassasin8092
@nbassasin8092 Жыл бұрын
Theres AI as well so 4, but the rest I absolutely agree with
@Snipezelite02
@Snipezelite02 Жыл бұрын
@@nbassasin8092 AI didn't make it he was just a mention
@randomperson2540
@randomperson2540 Жыл бұрын
@@xenonite2172 but dirk had a way better team than wade, after 06 Shaq would suffer an injury and after that would leave. There was nobody on that roster other than wade he honestly had one the worse rosters in the league. People don't talk about how dirk won 67 games and got swept jn the first round and played horrible and would never make a western finals until 2011. Dirk was saved by his 2011, which even in that finals wade out performed him
@NathanJHaug
@NathanJHaug Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait until luka is on here. Still a few years out but he has had one of those meteoric starts to a career
@noahpagel2823
@noahpagel2823 Жыл бұрын
@Nathan J Haug this vid was made before Luka’s performance against NYK. I bet he’d at least be in consideration now after that game alone. After all he’s done already, being the only 60-20-10 player in history, and everything he still has to offer, I could see Luka making this list in 3 years.
@philwilson609
@philwilson609 Жыл бұрын
Contemporary players are vastly superior than those from the past due to three factors: Internationalism, skill advancement and tactical sophistication. My pyramid would have Steph on tier one - he is the greatest player on the greatest dynasty of the most competitive era. On tier two you have LeBron, KD and Kawhi. Luka is on tier three and rising. One can build an epic collection of NBA greats among active players only.
@guabagotjuice
@guabagotjuice Жыл бұрын
@@philwilson609 kawhi over bill russell wilt kareem nd shaq is INSANE 😭
@jackstone2176
@jackstone2176 Жыл бұрын
Luka fanboys are straight up delusional. He's been in the league 5 seasons . no way is he better than any of these players.
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 Жыл бұрын
@English k
@elitefrags
@elitefrags Жыл бұрын
lord knows if westbrook won a couple rings he’d be on here. the triple double king needs some love
@reaurt
@reaurt 11 ай бұрын
Great list. I could quibble with a few placements here and there, but no major complaints. Jokic is 100% going on the list in your next update, that guy is special.
@SilencedButNotForgotten
@SilencedButNotForgotten Жыл бұрын
Dirk is so underrated, thanks for showing him love.
@MBAM02
@MBAM02 Жыл бұрын
He played zero defense 🤫
@Tasos11_
@Tasos11_ Жыл бұрын
🤦 pov you're German
@jimmylolo8108
@jimmylolo8108 Жыл бұрын
@@MBAM02 Shhhh...The adults are talking.
@MBAM02
@MBAM02 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmylolo8108 🐱🤫
@MBAM02
@MBAM02 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmylolo8108 ik so 🤫🐱
@RizkyRick
@RizkyRick Жыл бұрын
Giannis has potential to break in to that Tier 1 and i no doubt expect to see Doncic in the pyramid next time
@ogi618
@ogi618 Жыл бұрын
i mean maybe jordans first championship along with his 2nd mvp and fmvp was at 28 giannis has done the same+dpoy abd the bucks r a contender
@futurehofer1564
@futurehofer1564 Жыл бұрын
you mean Zion
@bullykojima3232
@bullykojima3232 Жыл бұрын
@@futurehofer1564 if he stays healthy . But its hard to consider zion>giannis due to their defense .
@soysauce4223
@soysauce4223 Жыл бұрын
@@futurehofer1564 Zion hasn't proven anything yet. lol
@syfj.
@syfj. Жыл бұрын
@@futurehofer1564 zion kinda mid rn
@Rauhmones
@Rauhmones Жыл бұрын
Isaiah Thomas is so underrated. He was crushed between Magic and Bird's Era and Michael's Era and still beat all of them. Fast and ruthless, he changed the game and shaped the 90's.
@lumpy9964
@lumpy9964 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!! Finally someone says it. Isaiah definitely deserves more love AMEN.
@homerl7
@homerl7 4 ай бұрын
But was he a better player than those guys? Not in my book. One of the all time greats, top 50 for sure.
@frewtlewps1152
@frewtlewps1152 Ай бұрын
Tier 1 - The GOAT: Michael Jordan Tier 2 - Leaders of the Record Books: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, LeBron James, Wilt Chamberlain, and Bill Russell Tier 3 - Best of their Era: Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O’Neal, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan, and Stephen Curry Tier 4 - Decade Defining Players: Hakeem Olajuwon, Oscar Robertson, Kevin Durant, Julius Erving, Nikola Jokic, Moses Malone, Kevin Garnett, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Dirk Nowitzki Tier 5 - All Time Greats: Jerry West, Isiah Thomas, Dwayne Wade, Karl Malone, David Robinson, Elgin Baylor, Charles Barkley, John Havlicek, Kawhi Leonard, and Scottie Pippen
@bjrowland25
@bjrowland25 Күн бұрын
I like this
@KDemosh
@KDemosh Жыл бұрын
Do a pyramid for each position! This was such a cool breakdown!
@javigar133
@javigar133 Жыл бұрын
That would be an interest rework, also by decades
@theofficialfskay
@theofficialfskay Жыл бұрын
10:41
@Mrsewercat
@Mrsewercat Жыл бұрын
@@theofficialfskay you must feel so smart he meant each position of all time...
@samheard7849
@samheard7849 Жыл бұрын
That SF pyramid is gonna go crazy
@KDemosh
@KDemosh Жыл бұрын
@TheOfficialFSKay yes! That but a whole 30 player pyramid of all PG SG PF C and so on! I love this stuff!
@Rei-bg3rf
@Rei-bg3rf Жыл бұрын
I think Steph will be a high tier 2 when it's all said and done. Decent tier ngl
@ninjasaki_7231
@ninjasaki_7231 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I rank him over bird and in the video Jimmy made, he had Steph over bird in the top 10 list so his placement is a bit odd
@threeteeflee
@threeteeflee Жыл бұрын
I'm not a Steph/Warriors fan but I agree.
@ariaarulasan
@ariaarulasan Жыл бұрын
TIER 1, BETTER THAN THE PSYCHOPATH
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 Жыл бұрын
He'll be top 5 all-time when it's all said n done I believe. But let's just wait n see I guess
@jacobduncan9593
@jacobduncan9593 Жыл бұрын
@@ninjasaki_7231 He was either making a point to say that Steph is a top 10 player all time or he was just exaggerating.
@NewMojo71
@NewMojo71 11 ай бұрын
No way KD is on the same Tier as Tim Duncan, thats insane!
@MaximusR93
@MaximusR93 Жыл бұрын
How is Duncan not tier two? He’s just as accomplished as Kobe, they are equals.
@Jiturra01
@Jiturra01 Жыл бұрын
TD More accomplished.... But they're equals, if you factor in cultural impact. Kobe one tier too high is really why we're all wincing at this....
@MaximusR93
@MaximusR93 Жыл бұрын
@@Jiturra01 I agree, I think dude is a Celtics fan because he moved Russell and Bird to Tier 2, I also don’t think either are better than Duncan.
@nhs8984
@nhs8984 Жыл бұрын
I have a good feeling when we revisit this next time, Giannis will be in tier 2-3 and Doncic will be in tier 4-5
@tine0508
@tine0508 Жыл бұрын
nah Giannis is just a bit high now. tier 3 3 max. even if he wins another championship. thats my opinion and i get where u are coming from
@adriannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@adriannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Жыл бұрын
@@tine0508 your opinion is ass
@tyyy4681
@tyyy4681 Жыл бұрын
@@tine0508 how? A 2x mvp, DPOY, one of the greatest finals performances ever to win a chip in a team that never had a chance without him. And by the way, he didn’t run away to a super team.
@its_maui_bro0457
@its_maui_bro0457 Жыл бұрын
@@tyyy4681 curry and durant only had a super team if u talking bout bron ur out of it my bro
@connor3885
@connor3885 Жыл бұрын
@@tine0508 Giannis could win mvp and dpoy every year. And bucks are looking like top 3 team in the league. 5 years from now he’s gonna have more rings and mvps and dpoy
@wickedd8691
@wickedd8691 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Giannis accomplished what he did in such a short time is absolutely insane
@hamidrezaei3862
@hamidrezaei3862 Жыл бұрын
and he just keeps getting better every year, it's crazy...
@markbeebe125
@markbeebe125 Жыл бұрын
One title and 2 MVPs by age 30. Hmmmm. Why don't we check in with Kareem, magic, larry, Jordan, Tim duncan, Moses Malone, I can keep going all day if you'd like. I think there might be a little bit of a recency bias here on this. I am not at all denying the greatness of giannis. I think he is absolutely phenomenal. However I think we're over hyping him a tiny bit and forgetting our NBA history. I think by the time all is said and done, there's a good chance that he'll be in the top 10 of all time. But as it stands right now, one title and two MVPs, defensive player of the year, by age 28 or 29, isn't enough to make him stand out from the rest of that crowd. But at the same time it puts him in some absolutely incredible company. But I don't think we should be gobsmacked at what he's accomplished when tons of other players have done it before him.
@xeonbladev18
@xeonbladev18 Жыл бұрын
@@markbeebe125 he just turned 28 and you checked on age 30😂😂. Just proves how crazy he is. At 27 no one accomplished more than him in the league ever other than maybe magic or Tim, Kareem. Name me players by age 27 that won a ring, fmvp, 2mvps and a DPOY which you seemed to disregard. Keep hating tho casual.
@markbeebe125
@markbeebe125 Жыл бұрын
@@xeonbladev18 reading is fundamental buddy, maybe you should learn how to do it. And this writing thing, not exactly a strong suit of yours either. Your first sentence doesn't even make any sense, literally no sense at all. I know we live in the age where children like you have forgotten how to answer telephones and be polite and use grammar and functional life skills like that, you should try it sometime, it will make everything a lot better and a lot easier. You missed some pretty simple things, that were right there in front of you so you obviously just skipped over them or haven't learned how to read yet: "by age 28 or 29"....."before age 30". These are THINGS THAT ARE TRUE, Alex, for $400. You asked me to name people, even though I already had. And will again, check in with Bill russell, check in with Tim duncan, check in with kareem, check in with magic, check in with Larry, and yes the dpoy wasn't even a thing when some of these guys were doing it and certainly Larry Bird wasn't the best defensive player in the league, but having won MULTIPLE championships, MVPs, rookie of the Year, finals MVP etc, by the same age is pretty damn close, just because he's got one other award doesn't mean that he's suddenly lapped the field. You have the balls to call me a casual when you can't remember that guys in your own generation, have done this much less the old guys. Go look up Oscar Robertson. So yeah he doesn't have the finals MVP or the championship because he was on a horrific Cincinnati team, but he was averaging a triple double, destroying record books, winning MVPs etc. You won't find an NBA historian that thinks that Oscar isn't on at least the same plane if not above giannis. I'm sorry if I ruffled your feathers, and I'm definitely sorry you took your mouth off his nuts long enough to come down from the high horse that you have no discernible reason to reside on. Just because I pointed out things that are factually true, doesn't mean that you should ignore all reading and reading comprehension and miss the point where I acknowledge his greatness. I'm not bad-mouthing him at all, I'm just pointing out that the original post use a ton of hyperbole went over hyping the guy. He's great!! but it doesn't mean that his greatness makes him suddenly so much greater than other league greats.
@xeonbladev18
@xeonbladev18 Жыл бұрын
@@markbeebe125 you got proven wrong and now wanna resort to insults😂😂. Couldn't find a single player as accomplished as Giannis at 27 like I said💀💀. Sign off casual
@marianocrosetti5889
@marianocrosetti5889 2 ай бұрын
There are some high quality content videos comparing Lebron and Jordan for the GOAT and they clearly show MJ is by far. I recommend them.
@E3N8013
@E3N8013 2 ай бұрын
Thats to show you how great MJ is,bro played against 9players who are in the GOAT conversation from the same era and dominated all of them and the 90's. MJ is definitely the GOAT on court💯
@Iamcel94
@Iamcel94 Жыл бұрын
There is always one or two content creators in every category on KZfaq that release infrequent but high quality videos and you are definitely one of those. I wish more creators would take after you and I think you should take a lot of pride in the videos you do, and I hope you inspire more creators to be like you in the future.
@blacklite911
@blacklite911 Жыл бұрын
I love those types. Unfortunately the algorithm encourages quantity more but when you grow the fan base, you shoot to the top when you release
@Crying2Death
@Crying2Death Жыл бұрын
Thinking basketball is amazing too! They’re the top 2 imo
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 Жыл бұрын
@@Crying2Death Most definitely one of the best out there. His insights are very complete and nuanced and the podcast is legit great too.
@redteddy135
@redteddy135 Жыл бұрын
oversimplified tho... disappears for 6 to 12 months and then releases a chart topping video
@mkm297
@mkm297 Жыл бұрын
I feel like doncic is going to crack this list soon. What he is doing in the regular season and playoffs is out of this world at such a young age
@mikeoath9541
@mikeoath9541 Жыл бұрын
Aside from All NBA 1st team selections he just doesn't have the accolades yet unfortunately. He will probably retire as tier 1 though. Potentially, we never know for sure.
@DeeReeseBeats
@DeeReeseBeats Жыл бұрын
@@mikeoath9541 Yeah he's only in his 5th season I can see him getting at least 1 ring 3 or 4 at most imo
@BIuezy
@BIuezy Жыл бұрын
@@mikeoath9541 Tier one is a wild statement, more like 2-3
@ryuzaki4146
@ryuzaki4146 Жыл бұрын
he needs to accomplish more but he definitely has the potential to
@jadentesai
@jadentesai Жыл бұрын
Hes gonna need at least 2 mvps and a championship if he wants to be on here
@lawpenner
@lawpenner Ай бұрын
Glad to see Larry Bird moved up to tier 2. Bird I think had the greatest basketball IQ of all time
@jayjempson5817
@jayjempson5817 5 ай бұрын
Your abilities to craft these videos are astounding! I applaud your attention to editing and narration. You're worth more than 2.39 subs and should be considered tier 1 youtuber.
@eddyfazly
@eddyfazly Жыл бұрын
It's hard to argue with the list when Jxmy presented the stats and information too well.
@c.s.4505
@c.s.4505 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always, Jimmy. Seeing Iverson removed from the pyramid hurt inside. Too many greats in the top 50 now, basketball is aging in a great way. RIP Mamba.
@gangstagummybear3432
@gangstagummybear3432 Жыл бұрын
You have no need to take this guy's list seriously, it is irrelevant.
@c.s.4505
@c.s.4505 Жыл бұрын
@@gangstagummybear3432 You must be fun at parties
@bobyd.c.x8028
@bobyd.c.x8028 Жыл бұрын
You re in the running for GOAT 🐐 of NBA statistics!!!! Love your work man!! You re amazing!
@T_Law92
@T_Law92 Жыл бұрын
Solid justification to the changes, Jimmy. The only thing that hurts is seeing AI taken off the pyramid, but it's purely subjective. I don't disagree, the man's just got so much heart! Also, I agree that Luka and Jokic will rightfully earn their spots in no time.
@t3sh3r35
@t3sh3r35 Жыл бұрын
yeah he shouldve kept ai and left kawhi out imo
@T_Law92
@T_Law92 Жыл бұрын
@@t3sh3r35 I thought the same thing based on personal preference. However, statistically speaking I'm not as much of a guru as Jimmy to know if it's truly a reasonable tradeoff.
@all-caps3927
@all-caps3927 Жыл бұрын
Ye I was shocked to see Allen leave the list, it doesn't seem right to say he isnt top 30 of all time. I think a certain spurs player should be dropped 👀
@dicap9946
@dicap9946 Жыл бұрын
@@t3sh3r35 Kawhi is one of the most clutch players of all time! There’s a reason why he’s a 2 time champion. He plays both ends of the floor and teams cannot stop him most of the time. He has one of the highest win rates come playoffs
@OludayoKolawole
@OludayoKolawole Жыл бұрын
There’s no way AI is above Kawhi on an all-time list
@BigBrain-
@BigBrain- Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for Luka to get on here. See y’all in 3 years
@vanguardas9927
@vanguardas9927 Жыл бұрын
fatboy won't make tier5...he's james harden 2.0
@dj-lk2uh
@dj-lk2uh Жыл бұрын
@@vanguardas9927 wait he wins a ring
@pi_za8214
@pi_za8214 Жыл бұрын
bro its too early in his career, yall nedda wait a sec, when all is siad and done he will for sure, but rn? no hes not there yet, and he wont be there in 3 years
@vanguardas9927
@vanguardas9927 Жыл бұрын
@@dj-lk2uh he won't unless he joins a superteam...he's literally harden except he doesn't choke in the playoffs and is fat af...luka is gassed by the 3rd quarter in every game he plays in
@Strutz3E
@Strutz3E Жыл бұрын
Luka won’t get on even if he starts averaging 35 simply because this list is so elite with so much hardware to back it up. Luka is great but it’s too premature to try and say he’s an all time great
@abrahamchavez7134
@abrahamchavez7134 Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel today and I’m hooked!!! Your videos are goat status.
@milktea2422
@milktea2422 Жыл бұрын
As others mentioned, i think this should be revisited every so often. I think every 3-4 years is a good choice. -I mean just look at how Giannis, and Jokic broke out to become two Great players. Kawhi had a legacy defining run a year after he made this list. Not much besides a potential break out star really happens each year. -but in 3-4 years maybe a new dynasty was formed after one fell, a new dominant player has come out and started putting up amazing numbers. So yeah I think every 3-4 years is perfect. 10 years is way too long. A whole dynasty will have come up and fallen in that time, maybe even 2 dynasties.
@-paul
@-paul Жыл бұрын
I just love how MJ gets the goat spot without the need for any extra information that other players seem to require to justify their positions on the pyramid.
@dmjdebruin
@dmjdebruin Жыл бұрын
LeBron get this T1 spot without any extra information other then he is talked about most on social media by fanboys after proclaiming himself the goat. But if you want an extensive comparison between the two explaining also why jordan is the goat look at below video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtJjoLVnytWpkWw.html
@Vlad_32
@Vlad_32 Жыл бұрын
I think that is a problem tbh 🤨
@Tonm077
@Tonm077 Жыл бұрын
Information already presented in the original list and num has changed to touch him so
@pigs6486
@pigs6486 Жыл бұрын
@@Vlad_32 then your brain doesn't work
@fbistatmajor5918
@fbistatmajor5918 Жыл бұрын
@@pigs6486 Kareem is better than MJ he just didn't bring flair to the game and market it as well which is why he's overlooked so much
@andrewhous10
@andrewhous10 Жыл бұрын
I’d put Tim duncan on tier 2. Not the flashiest career but I think he’s one of the most valuable players of all time. Manu and tony aren’t hall of famers without him. A career that I wish I could’ve enjoyed more.
@neandertalero
@neandertalero Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. IMHO, Duncan was most dominant than Kobe. IMHO only surpassed in terms of dominance by Russell, MJ and maybe Magic
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын
@@neandertalero And LBJ but yeah only 4 dudes I’d say have achieved more than Duncan
@herrerasauro7429
@herrerasauro7429 Жыл бұрын
@@neandertalero Yeah, I agree. Out of all these players, maybe only Russell was as good as a leader of men as Tim Duncan while also having dominance unlocked from the first minute he stepped on the league up until the end, only a few other players achieved that, probably only Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Doctor J, MJ, Lebron, Magic and Robertson.
@marci-anna7101
@marci-anna7101 Жыл бұрын
That's my one problem with the list, I'd switch Kobe and Tim or have em both tier 3, and not sure if I would have Jokic or Kawhi I gotta sit on that one.
@marci-anna7101
@marci-anna7101 Жыл бұрын
@@neandertalero If we talking dominance, then Shaq, Wilt and Lebron, but in terms of accolades it's Lebron, MJ, Kareem, Bill and like you said maybe Magic. I'd also put Wilt here if he had 3 rings instead of 2, but that is not that case.
@MC326_
@MC326_ 4 ай бұрын
Jokic needs to be on tier 5 easily after the 2023 ring
@robinrybar7200
@robinrybar7200 Ай бұрын
Man russ is just so underrated, yea his individuality was not made for playoffs but his regular season stats in his prime years, man he averaged a freakin tripledouble like for 5 years
@nattalete
@nattalete Жыл бұрын
R.I.P. to Kobe Bryant and Bill Russell, who have both passed away since Jxmy's first G.O.A.T. pyramid video.
@mruberlicious2853
@mruberlicious2853 Жыл бұрын
As a long time bucks fan it makes me so proud to see Giannis up there with the greats
@gabrieldodds9081
@gabrieldodds9081 Жыл бұрын
i'd put him in tier 3
@nanashi7779
@nanashi7779 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrieldodds9081 As someone who loves Giannis, not yet. But mark my words, he'll get there by the end of his career, tier 3 at least.
@javigar133
@javigar133 Жыл бұрын
And well deserved! He is knockong on the Next tier as we speak
@coolmatthew213
@coolmatthew213 Жыл бұрын
Jokic if you revisit the pyramid as of now since he won his first ring and unanimously won finals MVP, I can see him in tier 4. In my opinion for the greatest center of all time, I feel like he's above both David Robinson and Moses Malone or maybe Hakeem. If that's case if Jokic is greater than Hakeem, then Jokic is in tier 3. It's my take but obviously we should wait as he goes later in his career
@manny4552
@manny4552 8 ай бұрын
John havlicek is really underrated these days he was a beast a perpetual steam roller..never tired with mad skills
@TheoryofSend
@TheoryofSend Жыл бұрын
Dude this video is straight up fire. Jimmy's story telling voice is just built different plus the way he thinks through this stuff makes these videos so interesting to watch. Keep doing what your doing man.
@Ja.Morant
@Ja.Morant Жыл бұрын
The fact that Jokic missed out on the top NBA 75 list and is now about to join a few guys in being a back to back to back MVP is WILD.
@georgiosyiannakou5537
@georgiosyiannakou5537 Жыл бұрын
At the time when they selected the top 75, Jokic only had one regular season MVP and one appearance in Conference finals. So it was kind of a correct decision.
@ClassicFeta
@ClassicFeta Жыл бұрын
I expect AD to be ejected from that 75
@batopopadic1071
@batopopadic1071 Жыл бұрын
@@georgiosyiannakou5537 i mean, mvp is kind of a big thing. There werent that many players who got it 🤷🏽‍♂️ But anyway, still didn't deserve it back then, but now he coming into the better part of those 75 😶
@sportbrawl480
@sportbrawl480 Жыл бұрын
@@batopopadic1071 if it’s like that then D rose would be there or Westbrook, winning fmvp gives you a bigger boost than winning a regular season mvp
@bysonchi
@bysonchi Жыл бұрын
@@batopopadic1071 MVP is a joke, more like a popularity contest by writers and commentators, than what it was truly supposed to represent. How else do we explain why MJ had only 6, and Lebron only 4.
@0509brook
@0509brook Жыл бұрын
Kidd, Yao Ming and Doncic have a special place in my heart but I like your ranking. Great job!
@playnatethegreat
@playnatethegreat 3 ай бұрын
Wemby makes it to the pyramid very soon. In 5 years the NBA world and history will be totally changed.
@SilencedButNotForgotten
@SilencedButNotForgotten Жыл бұрын
I agree, good changes! Wonderful list! Will be fun in a few years with Jokic, Giannis and Luka! Jokic and Luka will surely make the list and not as tier 5 😶
@RY-gy1md
@RY-gy1md Жыл бұрын
Lukas gonna be on tier 1
@LeonEdwardsGoat
@LeonEdwardsGoat Жыл бұрын
@@RY-gy1md bro dallas isnt winning a chip
@toshirohitsugaya857
@toshirohitsugaya857 Жыл бұрын
@@LeonEdwardsGoat Who says in 5 years he will be in Dallas?
@maliprince8703
@maliprince8703 Жыл бұрын
@@RY-gy1md relax fam
@allaboutthemurzic
@allaboutthemurzic Жыл бұрын
The list is a joke wilt is in tier 3
@3AsianBoi
@3AsianBoi Жыл бұрын
Tim Duncan deserves Tier 2... Played in every era & showed he can play in modern era
@chinonycc
@chinonycc Жыл бұрын
Without a doubt. Also dirk over d wade is a lil crazy.
@LookingForAName...
@LookingForAName... Жыл бұрын
@@chinonycc Dirk is absolutely a tier above D Wade
@electric_outpost7380
@electric_outpost7380 Жыл бұрын
@@LookingForAName... no😭😭😭
@bosslax3162
@bosslax3162 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@bathtubtoast9181
@bathtubtoast9181 Жыл бұрын
@@LookingForAName...eh I’d say there pretty close
@twoqueens
@twoqueens 11 ай бұрын
That is a great list, but I would put Wilt in T2 as he has that massive domination factor and imba stats. KD has no business being that high and personally I hate AI not making the list.
@morrisparrish76
@morrisparrish76 5 ай бұрын
How can u not have a man (WNC) who is 1st in scoring ave- minutes played ave & rebound ave as #1 is hateful-foolish-opionated & criminal!
@Ericrawnsley
@Ericrawnsley 11 ай бұрын
Jokic is going to keep working his way higher up this list.🎉
@Matt-dp7ze
@Matt-dp7ze Жыл бұрын
9:15 crazy how this 3.5 year span is a guaranteed Hall of Fame spot for any NBA player.
@dreamchaser1419
@dreamchaser1419 Жыл бұрын
To be fair olajuwon 1994 season is a guaranteed hof. Champ, FMvp, Mvp, Dpoy, All NBA teams.
@CurtisRichie88
@CurtisRichie88 Жыл бұрын
Ain't no way Ive been watching this man for 3 years, WHERE TF DID THE TIME GO 🤧🤯
@dozhadeville444
@dozhadeville444 Жыл бұрын
We wasted it watchin videos
@ncb5347
@ncb5347 Ай бұрын
this list is beautiful
@ebarshin
@ebarshin 7 ай бұрын
Jimmy has to be kicking himself for not including the Joker in this one. Dude looks like he will up in tier 3 or above once his career is over.
@gavinharris4690
@gavinharris4690 Жыл бұрын
I once was terrible at basketball and basically has known nothing of the game except the goat is MJ and a few players names. About 3 years ago I started watching Jimmy and I know have so much knowledge of the game and have fallen in love with it. I have also become quite good at playing basketball and have even made my school basketball team! Thank you Jimmy so so much for helping me fall into a game I had no idea about! You're one of my favorite youtubers so keep up the Outstanding Work!!!!
@doryembrandingmarketingven3923
@doryembrandingmarketingven3923 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Exactly the same trajectory.
@thedargon6899
@thedargon6899 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Except I thought Lebron was the goat… And he is 👑 but mj is a good answer too yeah
@TheBabyTort
@TheBabyTort Жыл бұрын
@@thedargon6899 I thought so too but man imagine if MJ played as many seasons as Bron bro would have the most cracked numbers even better more chips etc. if he was in the modern nba he would get way more DPOY because permittee defense is a lot more valuable in this age of basketball. Even without those years he still has a better resume. I wish it was bron but it never will be 💀
@dreamchaser1419
@dreamchaser1419 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBabyTortI question a lot of you guys basketball knowledge lol. Like obviously dude. That's like saying "if you stand in cold weather too long, you'll get cold". Ofc if he played longer shit would look different. That's what make bron argument unique and significant is that he has been this good for this long
@mikmaks7393
@mikmaks7393 Жыл бұрын
@@dreamchaser1419 True. Those if's don't count. It's only facts that does.
@senpaijeezus1907
@senpaijeezus1907 Жыл бұрын
I think Duncan would have been tier 2 if they hadn't lost to Miami during 2013 or 2014. He would have been 6-0 in the finals
@yc99official95
@yc99official95 Жыл бұрын
if i put everything into consideration, skillset, accomplishments, stats, sustained excellence, and influence/impact, it would be hard for me to decide who's the #1 GOAT, but if we used conventional ways, i could make a case for duncan being the #1 GOAT
@shanedunn8932
@shanedunn8932 Жыл бұрын
As great as Giannis is, the magnitude of just how good he sometimes is lost because 1. he doesnt have multiple rings and 2. Talent parity among teams is the greatest ive seen in all my life. But when you bring up those accomplishments, it's impossible to forget anymore.
@user-wu5fz7pe9h
@user-wu5fz7pe9h 9 ай бұрын
Kd getting the respect he deserve from a nba goat analyst. Love Jimmy ❤️🐐💯
@cedomirdzunic5194
@cedomirdzunic5194 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for recognizing Nikola Jokic once again! If he was on a different, more ambitious team he would definitely be climbing this pyramid more quickly
@Gpsrater5
@Gpsrater5 Жыл бұрын
Joker overrated
@Vista.highlights
@Vista.highlights Жыл бұрын
@@Gpsrater5 L
@pfanzers
@pfanzers Жыл бұрын
@@Gpsrater5 a big man doing things we never seen and you wanna have some dumbass comment like that.
@locococopocoqoco8555
@locococopocoqoco8555 Жыл бұрын
@@Gpsrater5 Not as overrated as DRose.
@gerry5786
@gerry5786 Жыл бұрын
Kevin Garnett is the most underrated player in the league in my opinion. So happy to see Dirk and Him moved up to tier 4. Drik's success is granted. KG's not so much. Great to see him getting some shine here.
@bandjolyn
@bandjolyn Жыл бұрын
As a Mavs fan, I agree wholeheartedly. Especially now that Dirk is a tier above D Wade lol.
@duartemalafaya6251
@duartemalafaya6251 Жыл бұрын
I actually believe Garnett should be in the same tier as d wade, I would pick wade anytime
@javigar133
@javigar133 Жыл бұрын
Kg belongs in the pyramid, but not higher than IT or Stockton, and possibly Wade. That's muy opinion
@jasonl1184
@jasonl1184 Жыл бұрын
KG underachieved, like that one Celtics title with Allen and pierce saved all their careers and is the reason doc is still coaching. How tf can u only win one title with that roster.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 Жыл бұрын
Advanced stats and tracking show Garnett as one of the most elite players on both ends of the floor. He was a one man army and had a huge impact in the games he played. Too bad his career was cut short by injuries. I think he should be one tier higher on the pyramid, maybe even two.
@mylesbennetcoronadyson6929
@mylesbennetcoronadyson6929 10 ай бұрын
This pyramid just feels right. It passes the eye test. If we take this pyramid as fact there is just something that seems so on point with it.
@quirinogarza7381
@quirinogarza7381 8 ай бұрын
Lebron just airballed another free throw the other day 😆 😳 😂 🤣 LMAO
@johnnwith2ns464
@johnnwith2ns464 8 ай бұрын
you have 0 ball knowledge go watch american football
@quirinogarza7381
@quirinogarza7381 8 ай бұрын
@@johnnwith2ns464 Are you saying it's not true??
@johnnwith2ns464
@johnnwith2ns464 8 ай бұрын
@@quirinogarza7381 no im saying that it doesnt matter. lol
@quirinogarza7381
@quirinogarza7381 8 ай бұрын
@johnnwith2ns464 It DOES matter he looks like a fool and people are still steady trying to put him in GOAT conversation...
@johnnwith2ns464
@johnnwith2ns464 8 ай бұрын
@@quirinogarza7381 so does his other 38,652 points not count then. idiot lmao
@Okok30308
@Okok30308 Жыл бұрын
So glad kawhi got added. his 2019 run with the raptors was one of the most impressive performances I’ve ever seen, aswell as his overall defensive ability throughout his career. A quiet killer
@irjake
@irjake Жыл бұрын
I agree with his addition now, but with his injury history I expect him to be surpassed and drop off in the next pyramid in 5 years.
@cuylerpenrod1031
@cuylerpenrod1031 Жыл бұрын
@@irjake yep, his load management is gonna end up hurting his legacy unfortunately
@adil8701
@adil8701 Жыл бұрын
Especially when you know he played the finals and part of the playoffs injured
@trikk9964
@trikk9964 Жыл бұрын
... ehhh...
@Outwardpd
@Outwardpd Жыл бұрын
Just imagining what Kawhi's legacy could've been if he hadn't wasted his talent going to the Clipper is going to be one of the biggest 'what ifs' ever.
@dustinstewart3771
@dustinstewart3771 Жыл бұрын
I can’t be the only one just waiting the whole video for this man to add Giannis to the pyramid
@xanderc1225
@xanderc1225 Жыл бұрын
Fr I knew he couldn’t leave him off
@yeetersonpeeterson5542
@yeetersonpeeterson5542 Ай бұрын
11:07 we done with the 90s tho😂
@TekkzFooty10
@TekkzFooty10 Жыл бұрын
I respect it, tough to see my boy AI get cut but we all have different opinions
@tuckergray1260
@tuckergray1260 Жыл бұрын
Giannis will slowly climb this ladder and if he continues this dominance for the rest of his career then he’ll be right there in tier one with the goats
@samuelvoas2861
@samuelvoas2861 Жыл бұрын
D-wade and Isaiah Thomas both have a strong argument to be above Kevin Garnet. I know tier two is already looking crowded but it feels weird not having Timmy up there. Man, I never get tired of the nba GOATs conversation.
@BravestOfTheBrave
@BravestOfTheBrave Жыл бұрын
Timmy should be in tier 2 instead of bird
@tqmper7153
@tqmper7153 Жыл бұрын
@@BravestOfTheBrave they both should be there
@UncleSmokeKing
@UncleSmokeKing Жыл бұрын
I agree. Bird and Magic should always be same tier, but Kobe, Shaq and Duncan I think should always be paired together as well.
@Lregofins34
@Lregofins34 Жыл бұрын
@@BravestOfTheBrave definitely!
@bryantkobe4859
@bryantkobe4859 5 ай бұрын
tim duncan is tier 2, KD is tier 4, agree with others
@R3tr0Burd
@R3tr0Burd Жыл бұрын
Tim Duncan stay gettin disrespected. He's arguably in the goat conversation, and people still won't give him his props.
@Tofuey
@Tofuey Жыл бұрын
Good list except for Tim Duncan not being tier 2. 5 chips and 2 mvps 3 FMVPs and 13 all nba and all defensive appearances is crazy. Especially since you have Kobe in tier 2 when Duncan has more everything except all star game appearances while they both played in the same era.
@jackstone2176
@jackstone2176 Жыл бұрын
He also played with three HoF players and a GOAT coach.
@jamaljackson3496
@jamaljackson3496 Жыл бұрын
You hit Giannis on the head! When I tell people that I feel like he is already one of the greatest players to ever play already, I get looked at like I’m crazy.
@mateuszsyrzycki6814
@mateuszsyrzycki6814 Жыл бұрын
Giannis have potential to be goat. Is mutant. Just let's see how his prime will looks like
@rafaelisslaam1894
@rafaelisslaam1894 Жыл бұрын
nah hes just on a great team, players like harden getting disrespected, he should be on this list over Giannis.
@spades4602
@spades4602 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelisslaam1894 no💀Hardan has 0 rings and only 1 MVP accolades wise Giannis has more lmao and on arguably not as good as hardan had when he was on the nets and rockets
@rafaelisslaam1894
@rafaelisslaam1894 Жыл бұрын
@@spades4602 harden dent have ring cuz his team got injured so we aint holding that against him. N also the year Giannis won., nets n harden got injured or harden would have his ring n Giannis wouldn't so be fair n keep everything in mind. N I agree with ur last statement where u said prime harden was better then Giannis. Giannis isnt hard to guard, he drops points cuz if the team around him.
@jim8261
@jim8261 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelisslaam1894 Terrible take. How can you not laugh at yourself saying that Harden is better than Giannis as a player.
@claudioscaccabarozzi7968
@claudioscaccabarozzi7968 Жыл бұрын
Nikola Jokic says "hi". :)
@mjcardbros186
@mjcardbros186 Жыл бұрын
Now what Jokic just won a chip top 25 ever?
@zachisawesome52
@zachisawesome52 Жыл бұрын
I think Tim Duncan could possibly be a tier higher but overall pretty spot on I would say
@hirokeo
@hirokeo Жыл бұрын
Duncan always get disrespected because his game was boring. he's top 5 all time imo.
@jasonmoukala8909
@jasonmoukala8909 Жыл бұрын
@@hirokeo facts
@tonycarter1317
@tonycarter1317 Жыл бұрын
Giannis to me is the 2nd best PF of all time… Not to discredit Dirk, KG, and Karl-but what Giannis has done at such a young age is incredible
@ajodbeats
@ajodbeats Жыл бұрын
If Karl would of took some of those mj rings we would be looking at this waaaaay different 🤫
@freaknature1774
@freaknature1774 Жыл бұрын
Imo Giannis is already the greatest PF and if he isnt he’s about to surpass Dirk
@tubster4649
@tubster4649 Жыл бұрын
@@freaknature1774 no
@ryboi1337
@ryboi1337 Жыл бұрын
@@tubster4649 yes
@Amleto.
@Amleto. Жыл бұрын
@@freaknature1774 Tim Duncan literally exists
@tuckerthomas8151
@tuckerthomas8151 Жыл бұрын
I have a couple vid suggestions if u see this: Are NBA players today simply better than 90’s, 00’s? in depth, remake GOAT pyramid ofc, YOUR top 25 players vs objectively top 25 players. I thought those might be cool ideas. Anyway you the GOAT of YT fr
@dr.stormsgames672
@dr.stormsgames672 Ай бұрын
Well rounded video we gon need an update tho
@talhirsh1371
@talhirsh1371 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of the best tier lists when it comes to NBA grades
@samabudhabi1370
@samabudhabi1370 Жыл бұрын
Dirk and Kevin definitely earned their spots on tier 4, happy they finally got the recognition the deserve
@Switcheroo1
@Switcheroo1 Жыл бұрын
Those two are super close on my list KG 19 and Dirk 20
@TheSk8erGamer
@TheSk8erGamer Жыл бұрын
Dwade belongs their too...
@MrYounis26
@MrYounis26 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSk8erGamer dwade is no where close to kg and dirk, respect dirk and kg pls
@bigblowjoe4886
@bigblowjoe4886 Жыл бұрын
@@MrYounis26what got me is I.T. I’d have him above kg and dirk
@guabagotjuice
@guabagotjuice Жыл бұрын
@@MrYounis26 bro what Dwade beat an MVP dirk and did what KG couldn’t do win a chip as the best player on his team and win multiple chips. His peak was shorter lived but it was just as great as KG’s if not greater
@JohnDoe-nz6zr
@JohnDoe-nz6zr 2 ай бұрын
Jordan & Kobe are the real goats it’s so sad ppl just forget about Kobe.
@hiderz
@hiderz Жыл бұрын
Glad kawhi got on there. Only doubts is how epic his career would be without the injuroes and load management
@jjp381
@jjp381 Жыл бұрын
I love the content you put out bro, Bron and MJ fan at heart and I can’t hardly ever dispute your opinion. I just have to point out that Magic and Bird were drafted in the 70s but that portion of eras was wild when you consider the depth of skill in the 80s. Love the channel
@rlmalonzo1184
@rlmalonzo1184 Жыл бұрын
I've never thought I see a day in the internet that a certain person are both MJ and LeBron fan. Thanksl you for this, breathe of fresh air lol Coz most of their fanbase just spent their debate yelling at each other
@thefourthquarter7429
@thefourthquarter7429 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the two GOATS. They were / are amazing to watch. Somebody made a comment that applies perfectly to these two: "Aliens doing alien sh!$t"
@jbailey690
@jbailey690 Жыл бұрын
@@thefourthquarter7429 😂😂😂
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