Recording Vocals and Acoustic Guitar At the Same Time

  Рет қаралды 8,969

Your Home Recording Studio

Your Home Recording Studio

Күн бұрын

In this episode, I'll experiment with trying to get separation between a guitar and a vocal track that are being recorded at the same time. I'll try a few different setups and see what kind of isolation I can achieve.
Here's the Recording Rebels forum thread that started the discussion: www.therecordingrebels.com/vi...
And a follow-up thread where I started experimenting: www.therecordingrebels.com/vi...
Timestamps for this video:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - Preliminary tips
3:33 - Using a single microphone (no example)
5:14 - Using two cardioid-pattern microphones
8:10 - Example of two cardioid-pattern mics
10:01 - Using a figure-8 and a cardioid microphone
10:42 - Example of a figure-8 and a cardioid mic
12:04 - Using two figure-8 microphones
12:39 - Example of two figure-8 mics
14:12 - Using two figure-8 microphones with a gobo (acoustic screen)
13:34 - Example of two figure-8 mics with a gobo
16:19 - In closing

Пікірлер: 39
@stevenotice2918
@stevenotice2918 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Other videos talk about this but yours is the first I've seen that really lets you hear the difference.
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm so glad it was helpful!
@loerajams2416
@loerajams2416 4 жыл бұрын
always a treat to find a new video from you 🎸
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, I appreciate that!
@228ANDY
@228ANDY 3 жыл бұрын
I’m spending a lot of time trying for effective separation. It’s good to know here that figure 8 works better than cardioid for it. This is a nice vid. Subbed you. Thanks.
@deesoundrecordingstudio9739
@deesoundrecordingstudio9739 4 жыл бұрын
Totally forgot about the null (rejection) technique. Many thanks. All on hold till the spell is lifted, keep them vids coming, the longer the better
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Usually it isn't a problem generating a long video. I get so carried away 😊
@hellopsp180
@hellopsp180 2 жыл бұрын
Dang learnt so much from your experiments thanks
@leftofcenter4
@leftofcenter4 7 ай бұрын
Best way to do this is to record a scratch track with a really good performance with your guitar And voice at the same time then use that recording as a guide while recording the guitar and vocal separately and just match the performance while hearing the scratch track as a reference. You can concentrate on each part until you get it matched up like the scratch reference.. it will be a bit time consuming but once you get a good overdubbing, the sky is the limit as to mixing options.
@VintzDesert
@VintzDesert 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really well done tutorial thank you so much
@akivaragen
@akivaragen 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Thank you 😊
@siemadema2125
@siemadema2125 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! This helped me so much! ;)
@mhlpmb
@mhlpmb 4 жыл бұрын
awesome and inspiring :)
@mortezanahvi5167
@mortezanahvi5167 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@yeoldfart8762
@yeoldfart8762 Жыл бұрын
I did a bunch of experimenting along these lines. My SE ribbon mic figure 8 patern was by far the best for rejecting guitar bleed. The next best was using a CAD large diaphragm 48V laying mostly flat 90 degrees to the SE Ribbon. That way I could get very close to them and sing across their face. Didn’t notice any phase problems The texture difference in the mics added richness to my not so good voice. That increased vocal presence without adding gain. I do plug my acoustic guitar in but I don’t use the under the saddle Pieso that came with it. Never used that even live disgusting! I got K&K pads the glue under the top near the bridge. That with some EQ I can live with. Also use a cloud lifter on the Ribbon mic and the passive piezo pickups.
@minoartelli6467
@minoartelli6467 4 жыл бұрын
Super trick
@stevenotice2918
@stevenotice2918 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to do this effectively for a long time. The number one problem I have is with pitch correction. I want perfect takes, for youtube, but that rarely happens. Even if I just have one note to correct (and there’s always at least one) the pitch correction “hears” and tries to “correct” the guitar bleed. I’ve heard Melodyne can do polyphonic pitch correction but I can’t afford it and there’s no guarantee it’ll work as well as I want.
@davesmulders3931
@davesmulders3931 11 ай бұрын
So you post pitch corrected material on youtube? Do you clearly state on each video they are not your true performances?
@GL64
@GL64 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, finish that song! Nice job on the experiment. I'd say you got better-than-adequate separation with the nulls of the figure-8s.
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha I actually cut out a couple of other verses that I had written 😊 Thanks man, I hope you're staying safe and healthy!
@TheOnlineBusker
@TheOnlineBusker 2 жыл бұрын
Hi this is a great video (subbed!) but I'm a bit confused at something...at around 12 mins, you put the guitar mic in fig 8 and vox mic in fig 8 too, so does cardioid not reject from the side? If you angled the mics the same way but in cardioid would it not be the same result? Also, in fig 8 mode, aren't they then picking up too much of the room? Cheers for any advice! Nice work!! Ha! I should have waited till 14mins....
@rickybacker600
@rickybacker600 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have just found myself in this position with a performer who wants me to record an album for her. She's never worked by layering before and wants to sing and play together. If I can't convince her to record separately then I'll have to try your figure 8 method. I did a test using an SM57 on the guitar near the 12th fret pointing slightly down and it separated quite well but I haven't tried a figure 8 on the vocals yet. It'll be a shame to have to do it this way because I was keen to record the guitar using the M/S method with 2 mics.
@starckwest6358
@starckwest6358 9 ай бұрын
thks
@sharpphilip
@sharpphilip 4 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering today whether I’d have the chops to record a friend performing with their acoustic. This video will help! Also, many lols for: “I’m fine. Everything’s fine.” Dinner sounded tasty enough, too. My current studio conundrum is that I’ve acquired my first 500 series gear, and it involves my first TT/TinyTelephone jacks and my first DB25 cable. I hadn’t anticipated the expense or apparent relative rarity of cables for this application, and in trying to think of the best “set it and forget it!”) configuration for all this. Along these lines, I’d love to see a video on the growing pains (apart from the obvious ouch on my wallet!) of transitioning from entry-level gear to more semi-pro or professional stuff!
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Ooh, 500 series is a frontier that I haven't been brave enough to forge yet. Honestly, it'd make a lot of sense in this room. But I've been hesitant to buy into the ecosystem so far. How do you like it so far? I'd also love to replace my patchbay with a TT one, just because I could squeeze more inputs/outputs into a single space. But yeah, the availability of the cables kinda scares me.
@sharpphilip
@sharpphilip 4 жыл бұрын
​@@YHRS Hello! Thanks for the reply. I _think_ I like what 500 series gear I have so far, but I haven't been able to put it to any real productive use just yet, and my budget has kept me from grabbing any units north of the $250 range. One positive shout-out: I purchased a wacky thing by Kludge Audio called the "Transwarmer." It's a passive unit with nothing but a teeny toggle switch on the front which subtly alters its character. The imparts a warm gooeyness to anything routed through it without a lot of fuss. I'm looking forward to trying more cheap synth or old Casio sounds through it. I'm about to sit and troubleshoot a rogue unit that unexpectedly cuts ALL sound. (It's probably my fault, as the unit required some assembly.) Not a headache I wanted to face so soon! And there are so many chassises (is that the correct plural? how many syllables is that?) to choose from, and few if any of the budget ones are said to be worth the trouble. I settled on an expensive treat which I got open-box: a Black Lion Audio PBR-8 chassis-and I _think_ I'm happy with the purchase so far. Its front-panel patchbay is TT-which is neat, because I don't have to move the 500 modules around to change the flow (which I presume to be an issue with other units?). That said, it's my only gear that uses TT, and I wasn't prepared for needing to stock another kind of cable. Eh. Growing pains, huh? In fact, it's the idea of "growing pains" I'd love to hear more about on your channel. What annoyances and challenges did you face when your home studio began to grow? And how did you manage to surmount them?
@southportdrivers
@southportdrivers 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with great advice. As someone who has never used a figure 8 mic I have a question - would it help to rotate the guitar mic 90 degrees so that it is picking up the 2 ends of the guitar make a difference? The “null” side would still face you. But would the 2 “active” sides pick up guitar instead of one side guitar and the other side getting tour voice bouncing off the wall?
@YHRS
@YHRS 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that I follow...although sometimes I have trouble visualizing the polar patterns in 3 dimensions. If you rotate the mic along one axis (twist it like a screw) then the entire pattern would rotate along with it. Or if you rotate it along its other axis (like it's doing cartwheels), I believe that the pattern's direction would look identical relative to the guitar. But hey, experimentation is the key so it'd be worth playing around with all of this if you get your hands on a figure-8 mic.
@minoartelli6467
@minoartelli6467 4 жыл бұрын
Buona Pasqua
@TC_Conner
@TC_Conner 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. Was that a Martin acoustic? (I ran out of ham and bacon here too! 😩😩)
@maxhammer4067
@maxhammer4067 Жыл бұрын
do you ever make a vid to combate phase cancellation 😀
@DieStimmeVomDach
@DieStimmeVomDach 2 жыл бұрын
The combfiltering is still there, right? With every technique shown here?
@DeeCuts
@DeeCuts 4 жыл бұрын
Really finding your videos so helpful. Have you ever done any teaching? I think I can spot a teacher haha.
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I actually haven't done any official teaching, although I've been in somewhat of a mentor role at work for the last few years. I do enjoy it, though! I'm so glad that you're finding the videos helpful!
@RecordingStudio9
@RecordingStudio9 4 жыл бұрын
Great experiment. Next time try 2 dynamic mics. Dynamic mics have better rejection and less proximity effect. Well done.
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vatche! I tried an SM57 last week and it did a very good job of rejecting the guitar since I could get right up on it. It did have quite a bit of proximity effect, but a little bit of EQ in post helped. Thanks man, and I hope that you and your family are safe and sound at home!
@RecordingStudio9
@RecordingStudio9 4 жыл бұрын
@@YHRS thanks man. We are all good here too.
@rickyelvis3215
@rickyelvis3215 4 жыл бұрын
Lou Reed does John Denver ... cause I’m leaving on a jet plane ... when the airports .. open up again
@eclecticjams9031
@eclecticjams9031 4 жыл бұрын
Now that takes talent, I struggle to do them individually. Love the track and your content seems pretty cool mate, I just subscribed. I’m new to KZfaq and yeah hope my channel gets as polished as the content on yours. Feel free to check it out. Can’t wait to see more videos mate
Recording Guitar & Vocals at home - what's the BEST process?
20:45
David Shanhun
Рет қаралды 6 М.
Learn How to Mic Acoustic Guitars with Jacquire King
46:18
Universal Audio
Рет қаралды 306 М.
Каха и суп
00:39
К-Media
Рет қаралды 4,8 МЛН
Vivaan  Tanya once again pranked Papa 🤣😇🤣
00:10
seema lamba
Рет қаралды 35 МЛН
THEY made a RAINBOW M&M 🤩😳 LeoNata family #shorts
00:49
LeoNata Family
Рет қаралды 35 МЛН
Recording Acoustic Guitar And Vocals At The Same Time
15:39
Produce Like A Pro
Рет қаралды 18 М.
Recording Acoustic Guitar and Vocals (at the same time) with One Microphone
10:22
Singers that Play Guitar - Get Extreme Separation of Vocal and Acoustic
11:13
Recording Vocals and Guitar at the same time - Recording Studio
14:03
Meyer Street Records
Рет қаралды 628
Electrical Audio How-To: Recording Acoustic Stringed Instruments
42:02
Electrical Audio
Рет қаралды 126 М.
Recording Acoustic Guitar and Vocals at the Same Time
15:27
Joe Gilder • Home Studio Corner
Рет қаралды 40 М.
How To Record Acoustic Guitar: Mic Placement, EQ and Compression
17:37
How to Record a Singer-Songwriter: Part 1
8:40
Georg Neumann GmbH
Рет қаралды 113 М.
How to get the BEST VOCAL SOUND from your HOME STUDIO
27:33
David Shanhun
Рет қаралды 306 М.
The Best Way To Record Acoustic Guitar and Vocals (at the same time)
9:50
recordingrevolution
Рет қаралды 267 М.
Zattybek & ESKARA ЖАҢА ХИТ 2024
2:03
Ескара Бейбітов
Рет қаралды 287 М.
akimmmich (feat. Turar) - UMYTTYŃ BA?| official lyric video
2:54
akimmmich
Рет қаралды 1,7 МЛН
IL’HAN - Pai-pai (lyric video) 2024
3:24
Ilhan Ihsanov
Рет қаралды 247 М.
ENHYPEN (엔하이픈) 'XO (Only If You Say Yes)' Official MV
4:46
HYBE LABELS
Рет қаралды 17 МЛН