REFUTING THE FOOLISH WHO SAY THE QURAN HAS BEEN CHANGED

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Sunni Dawah

Sunni Dawah

6 жыл бұрын

» 𝐈𝐟 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐨, 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞 & 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐨𝐧 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐬𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐚 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐬. The Prophet said, “Whoever guides someone to goodness will have a similar reward.” [Sahih Muslim 1893]
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@amir123786
@amir123786 6 жыл бұрын
Brother over half Ramadan has passed and we didn’t get no videos. Been searching daily for a shamsi video.
@AbuAbdullahUK
@AbuAbdullahUK 6 жыл бұрын
Amir Same here, I have been searching daily. Lol.
@adamdiab8715
@adamdiab8715 6 жыл бұрын
Subhan'Allah what perfect timing. Im currently refuting someone and just sent 3 Ahadeeth to refute his claims that the varients are not Quran and means the Quran has been changed
@SunniDawah
@SunniDawah 6 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah
@adamdiab8715
@adamdiab8715 6 жыл бұрын
The same Ahadeeth Br Shamsi spoke about i shared Subhan'Allah
@adamdiab8715
@adamdiab8715 6 жыл бұрын
rod of discipline you've read the bible too!?
@naeem4281
@naeem4281 6 жыл бұрын
Sunni Dawah Asalamu Alaikum Akhi,can I have name of your facebook account or adress so I could sent Friend Request???? Jazakallah Kairan❤
@benarfa5757
@benarfa5757 6 жыл бұрын
"Surely it's collection and Recitation are our Responsibility" (Quran 75:17 suratul-qiyamah). Clearly this Verse talks about collection (compilation) and the recitation (dialects).
@khalidmuhidinhagi8173
@khalidmuhidinhagi8173 6 жыл бұрын
Abdiaziz Abdi This verse explains the video perfectly brother
@abdulmunim318
@abdulmunim318 4 жыл бұрын
Asalaam Aleykum. This gives the explanation down to even the composition of the Surahs were arranged and under the prophets pbuh guidance via Allah. That is ultimately the source. You don't find this in other scriptures that are still preserved to this day. Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian. Qur'an 15:9
@anonymousidentity2024
@anonymousidentity2024 6 жыл бұрын
The quran will never be changed Allah is protecting it.
@almurabiton
@almurabiton 5 жыл бұрын
@borrowed tomb No, those previous revelations are not protected, only Quran
@redone2957
@redone2957 5 жыл бұрын
borrowed tomb we know that the Bible and the Torah has changed. that is not only what we say, but even Christian scholars acknowledge this. Well from this we can conclude that God did not guard these books because otherwise it could not be changed, because God is almighty and nothing happens without his permission. And Muhammed pbuh was not His only profeet but the final one. We have from adam to abraham, Mozes en Jezus pbuh all
@redone2957
@redone2957 5 жыл бұрын
borrowed tomb haha what you say does not make sense. 124,000 prophets seem like a lot, but if you look at the beginning of humanity, maybe 100 billion people have lived on the earth. every people had his prophet. and every prophet had 1 clear message. namely believing in 1 God. So why did Christians change that Message? Noah, abraham, Moses Mohammed, they all had faith in unity as their foundation. but you have changed that. How can mohammed believe in a false god if there is only 1 God. there is no false God.
@almurabiton
@almurabiton 5 жыл бұрын
@borrowed tomb You are talking nonsense out of arrogance. Jesus son of Maryam peace be upon him said: John 16:12-13 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come Allah the Creator of Heavens and earth sent many prophets from Adam, through Noah, Abraham, Moses & Jesus with one Call : is worship only Allah and not associate with Him any partners. Allah send this prophets but thier message wasn't protected because people was not ready to recieve full message, it was only introductory, preliminary; preparatory, after that Allah sent the Last prophet Mohamed as conclusion of all the prophets before him, and as a guidance to all humankind with the Final testament which Holy Quran. And This Time Allah promised to preserve it. And here you go, now Muslims are so proud they have the only authentic holy book in the world. Everything before it was corrupted.
@redone2957
@redone2957 5 жыл бұрын
borrowed tomb hahahahahah wauuww. Do toh serieus believe this bullshit?
@KindBatman
@KindBatman 6 жыл бұрын
Shamsi talk about apostasy in Islam. Its a very important topic that people need to understand, even amongst the Muslims.
@amir123786
@amir123786 5 жыл бұрын
The Batman he has, he summed up even America can’t say anything because they kill people for leaking information about their army defence and classified info. So isn’t that the same as what they criticise Islam? There are laws. Many different. But Islam has the best law.
@jsingh265
@jsingh265 4 жыл бұрын
@@amir123786 if one braineashed muslim awakes up and comes out of the community, he is seen as a threat. Shows how fickle islam is! It's scared to death (no pun intended) of dissidents. It's more of a cult then anything else.
@snj7502
@snj7502 3 жыл бұрын
@@jsingh265 what the hell are you talking about idiot do you even have a clue of a word you’re saying or are you a 4channer if you are a 4channer than my question was answered
@PROSKILLS323
@PROSKILLS323 2 жыл бұрын
@James Holmes You do know the method that was used to preserve Quran was also the same way the ahadiths was preserved.
@zackalhamawi618
@zackalhamawi618 6 жыл бұрын
May Allah swt protect you and reward you brother shamsi
@adamdiab8715
@adamdiab8715 6 жыл бұрын
Zack Alhamawi Ameen
@ExtremeShez
@ExtremeShez 6 жыл бұрын
Ameen
@Aana_artz
@Aana_artz 6 жыл бұрын
No one can change the words of Allah (SWT) .
@shemyemantecle4703
@shemyemantecle4703 3 жыл бұрын
A goat did
@maxb9315
@maxb9315 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they can. Why was there a need to standardise the Koran in Cairo, resulting in the Hafs edition of 1924?
@koenboomsma92
@koenboomsma92 8 ай бұрын
@@maxb9315 i found a Quran manuscript 1000 years older
@maxb9315
@maxb9315 8 ай бұрын
@@koenboomsma92 You might well have, but that does nothing to address the point I made.
@JustObserving7860
@JustObserving7860 6 жыл бұрын
Missed shamsi... wallahi so glad to come across a new upload
@syakiraiman7828
@syakiraiman7828 2 жыл бұрын
Dus Dawah
@user-xw3ih6un5v
@user-xw3ih6un5v 6 жыл бұрын
Please upload more. May Allah reward you all for your efforts.
@ModatherAbozaid
@ModatherAbozaid 6 жыл бұрын
Jazakum Allah khyran brother shamsi.. It was a very beneficial and informative video ma shaa Allah.. 😊
@djamelcher7959
@djamelcher7959 6 жыл бұрын
Very clear and pure explication, Jazaka Allah kheir shamsi
@user-mf9jm9wl7f
@user-mf9jm9wl7f 6 жыл бұрын
سلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته May Allah bless u brother
@MrRaiders209
@MrRaiders209 4 жыл бұрын
Ch.69 v51: "And Verily, it (this Quran) is an absolute truth with certainty".
@shameemnassiree2780
@shameemnassiree2780 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis.
@AbuAmatullahAlAmriki
@AbuAmatullahAlAmriki 6 жыл бұрын
Baarakallah feek
@miqbal424
@miqbal424 5 жыл бұрын
Oh people the Quran is the word of Allah SWT the most supreme the most high. He has preserved it for us even in our heedlessness. All glory belongs to him. Go and research the Birmingham/Paris Quran Manuscripts, even with differing opinions the conclusion that all prominent Muslim and NON MUSLIM academics / scholars hold is that the Quran has not been changed since the time of our beloved Prophet PBUH. Don’t fall in the devils trap of doubt he sits on the straight path waiting for the believers and has many helpers from the jinnkind and mankind. So stay strong. Allah is the Lord and creator of all creation and is the master of the day of recompense.
@ayaanmohamud5695
@ayaanmohamud5695 6 жыл бұрын
Ma sha Allah tabaaraka Llaaah. Alxamdu LILLAAHI Rabbil Caalimiin brother Shamsi for this video. May Allah give you reward for this life and hearafter you and your family aamin yaa Rabbil Caalimiin. Baaraka Llaahu fiiku brother Shamsi.
@RealSyedHaq
@RealSyedHaq 6 жыл бұрын
*Brother Shamsi, You said you will be doing a series of the Seerah of RasulAllah SalAllahu alihiwasallam, is it still happening?*
@Imranjabb
@Imranjabb 6 жыл бұрын
Syed Haq i think he does it at the masjid. Weekly lesson
@muhammadaliif3834
@muhammadaliif3834 6 жыл бұрын
Jazakumullah khairan..
@blasty-gg
@blasty-gg 5 жыл бұрын
jazakAllah perfectly explained
@ajeldayan4434
@ajeldayan4434 6 жыл бұрын
Masha Allah 🙂
@ebj372
@ebj372 6 жыл бұрын
بارك الله فيك أخي شمسي... زادك الله علما و حرصا على دين الله الحق. كلام فاصل بين في هذا المسألة
@juraganbatu1389
@juraganbatu1389 5 жыл бұрын
Very good your science of matching!!
@jaar8453
@jaar8453 6 жыл бұрын
Hatun doesn't even speak correct English how about Arabic language 😂.
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 5 жыл бұрын
hahahhaha
@nusratfarooq7409
@nusratfarooq7409 5 жыл бұрын
Ye hyenas r fluent in arabic😅
@GuruShiya11
@GuruShiya11 5 жыл бұрын
so why r u weeping 0000000
@post-humangod2575
@post-humangod2575 4 жыл бұрын
@imu70 if allah does not understand other languages then how our prayers are being answered? I am talking about muslims only
@africankidd3642
@africankidd3642 4 жыл бұрын
@imu70 allah didnt die and u obviosly didnt watch the vid u have the disease of stupitity and he called the people say quran changed himars😭😂😂😂😭
@youwhat5058
@youwhat5058 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve acknowledged you have not been around the speakers corner lately. I miss your content there.
@user-ro4ks6gs4i
@user-ro4ks6gs4i 5 жыл бұрын
ماشاء الله .نحن نعتز باسلامنا وفخوريك كونك من بلدي
@alishbista1748
@alishbista1748 Жыл бұрын
It was narrated that 'Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.” 1: These verses were abrogated in recitation but not ruling. Other ahadith establish the number for fosterage to be 5. Grade: Hasan Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 1944 In-book reference : Book 9, Hadith 100 English translation : Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1944
@SaidB1n
@SaidB1n Жыл бұрын
This is an old argument.. 1. Muhammad ibn ishaaq is the only one narrating this addition, none of the other (including Malik bin Anas) narrators stated this. Hadith scholars have declared this addition to be weak and going against stronger narrators. Why would all the other narrators, with stronger memory, forget that this happened? The most authentic version is in Sahih Muslim 1452 (without the addition). 2. The verse regarding 10 times breastfeeding has been abrogated in recitation and ruling. The ruling is now 5, and the recitation is still abrogated. Since the Prophet salAllahu aleyhi wa salam was alive, this is perfectly fine and part of the revelation. Only the jews don't accept abrogation. 3. The most important thing in the life of the Prophet and his companions was the Quran. How is it that the Prophet recited a verse ONLY to 1 person, and that person wrote it down and didn't memorize it, and many years later was careless with the piece of paper such that an animal could eat it? Such an important object is stored in different places, secure and safe from danger. 4. Even if, for sake of argument, it is an authentic addition, then a piece of paper with Quran being lost has no impact at all. At the death of Prophet Muhammad salAllahu aleyhi wa salam, 1000s of Muslims memorized the Quran and it would be in their hearts anyway. But as stated above, the recitation was abrogated.
@alishbista1748
@alishbista1748 Жыл бұрын
@@SaidB1n so as per your thoughts, quran and hadiths were compiled a lot of time after prophets death, how can you say your quran is authentic as 6th century ad? And dude Saana manuscripts clearly shows the differences in ayata.
@MichaelJDV
@MichaelJDV 7 ай бұрын
@@alishbista1748 The Saana manuscript was used as a ledger and the fact some parts of it were erased and we can see what was erased under ultraviolet light. the fact this manuscript has parts of it erased shows this particular script was used by someone to learn the quran and when we learn we make mistakes. The oldest manuscript is called the Birmingham manuscript and to quote David Thomas, professor of Christianity and Islam at the University of Birmingham said: "The tests carried out on the parchment of the Birmingham folios yield the strong probability that the animal from which it was taken was alive during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad or shortly afterwards. This means that the parts of the Qur’an that are written on this parchment can, with a degree of confidence, be dated to less than two decades after Muhammad’s death. These portions must have been in a form that is very close to the form of the Qur’an read today, supporting the view that the text has undergone no alteration and that it can be dated to a point very close to the time it was believed to be revealed." Hopefully this was some help, I myself as a revert often pondered the question that has this miraculous book been changed, and you will find out when you watch debates and scholars, that in fact it has not. Sorry for the paragraph 🙂 may allah guide you
@siwarafrin3955
@siwarafrin3955 6 жыл бұрын
You r good man shokran ❤❤. 5aber el 3alam 3ala 5ater el Shia3
@mrbe-mb4kf
@mrbe-mb4kf 6 жыл бұрын
نحبكم في الله. جزاكم الله خيرا
@asmaarmehmood
@asmaarmehmood Жыл бұрын
MA SHA ALLAH
@asadraza1110
@asadraza1110 5 жыл бұрын
Subhannallah at 4:00 excellent point.
@user-vp2wk9mb5x
@user-vp2wk9mb5x 6 жыл бұрын
As Salam 3alaykum ya akhi shamsi I saw 1 of you videos when you was debating Godwin and you mentioned a Hadith in sahih ibn Hibban about isa ibn Maryam can you please share and may Allah reward u
@binyamina8850
@binyamina8850 5 жыл бұрын
Those dislikes must be from our enemies
@speedy6392
@speedy6392 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-zz4zz8ze9f you two muslims are the reason a lot of non muslim people look down on islam. And I'm a muslim myself...we have no enemies and if you are a muslim and actually followed the teachings of the Quran and Sunna you wouldn't call someone who isn't a muslim an enemy? legit the same mindset ISIS has goodness
@user-zz4zz8ze9f
@user-zz4zz8ze9f 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedy6392 go play rocket league kid you’re not ready for this yet
@speedy6392
@speedy6392 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-zz4zz8ze9f it's okay to be proven wrong, happens all the time. I reference Quran and hadith and you reference a video game ahahaha cut and clear. A muslim who follows Islam has no enemies
@ishkeeponee9272
@ishkeeponee9272 5 жыл бұрын
MaaashaAllaaah what a lion you are brother Shamsi
@ashidahramlan489
@ashidahramlan489 6 жыл бұрын
Jay Smith, The Syaitan Hatun and other Christian missionaries should watch this.
@uptimusprime9876
@uptimusprime9876 6 жыл бұрын
Brother I would like to know if there is any Hadith saying that the angel of death can come and you can see him a few days before your death as this happened to someone I know recently. They saw the angel of death sitting in the room with us and she told us it was him and she began laughing and said that she could see her place in jannah alhamdulillah. Jazakallahu khayr.
@khalifah4555
@khalifah4555 6 жыл бұрын
Uptimus Prime Alhamdulilah may Allah bless you. I've heard stories from trustoworthy Shaykh's that there were many people who saw the Angel of Death way before they died. However, these type of people are usually very very pious people. An old pious man who was very dedicated to Islam was in his house when the Angel of Death came into his house and told him that he'll die that week/next morning (sorry I forgot). He gave him the opportunity to tell his family. Usually things like seeing Prophet Muhammad in dreams, seeing Angel of Death before death itself happens to only pious people.
@Randomhandlename
@Randomhandlename 2 жыл бұрын
No these types of things are of disbelief
@alfonso201
@alfonso201 6 жыл бұрын
Clown ppl 😂😂😂
@azharkhan684
@azharkhan684 3 жыл бұрын
Yep you're one of them
@AbdulHameed-rx8ok
@AbdulHameed-rx8ok 5 жыл бұрын
LONG LIVE SHAMSI......
@rohilhussain9462
@rohilhussain9462 6 жыл бұрын
As salmu alikom @sunni dawah I want to get in contact with br shamsi is there anyway I can get his wattsapp JazakAllah khair
@arthurbahho2447
@arthurbahho2447 Жыл бұрын
Very important question Why all angels names are Hebrew names but not use Arabic names, so Allah chose only Hebrew names,
@omars1345
@omars1345 5 жыл бұрын
A. Slm brother Shamsi please give me the correct and original meaning of the word salat/salah according to how the Quran was revealed?
@nusratfarooq7409
@nusratfarooq7409 5 жыл бұрын
If u dont understand dont comment qirat recitatio above christian intellect. May allah reward bro shamsi for his work . The way hatun hears it its like her accent and jay smiths accent r like twins lol
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 5 жыл бұрын
barakallah
@SunniDawah
@SunniDawah 5 жыл бұрын
jazaakallahu khayran, please remember subscribe, hit the like button & share this video to your friends & family and share on all your social media platforms.
@Muslimman570
@Muslimman570 5 жыл бұрын
@@SunniDawah no worries brother I'm already
@roerdomp16e
@roerdomp16e Жыл бұрын
What a mess... What you do not say, but should have said, is that stating that the Quran might have been changed (which is has) is regarded blasphemy and could cost you your life.
@ShahidHussain-qz3ki
@ShahidHussain-qz3ki 6 жыл бұрын
There is no cure for death, anything else there is. Cure
@montclare469
@montclare469 2 жыл бұрын
QURAN IS PERFECT...AL HAMDULILAH!
@maxb9315
@maxb9315 Жыл бұрын
No, it isn't. Its an incoherent, incohesive and inconsistent document.
@montclare469
@montclare469 Жыл бұрын
@@maxb9315 THE WHOLE QURAN IS PERFECT...AL HAMDULILAH!
@maxb9315
@maxb9315 Жыл бұрын
@@montclare469 No, it isn't. see my previous post.
@montclare469
@montclare469 Жыл бұрын
LOVE MUHAMMAD (SAW) STOP THE ENVY AND THE HATE. SPEAK WORDS OF KINDNESS...LOVE HUMANITY! SHALOM!
@maxb9315
@maxb9315 Жыл бұрын
@@montclare469 Don't make puerile and ridiculous assertions of envy and hate. That's low-resolution thinking. I made a contention regarding the character of a text. There's nothing hateful about such an argument. Academics take issue with texts all the time. You can't make accusations of hate every time someone puts forward a point you don't like. It seems you've picked up some bad habits from the woke bunch.
@ChristianPrince2
@ChristianPrince2 5 жыл бұрын
no one can change the Quran save the holy goat of Allah "narrated that 'Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.” takbeer even a goat Allah was unable to protect his funny book from lol
@revdznet
@revdznet 5 жыл бұрын
You know its a Daif Hadith . and even if it was true , the Stoning wouldn't be LOST , Because Other peope most definetly Memorised it , do you Really think that Only aisha had it? how Stupid are you Christian Princess ?
@user-iq5nu7tc6x
@user-iq5nu7tc6x 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that these weak hadiths exist is even more proof of the objectivity of the science/compilation of hadiths. They didn’t just throw out hadiths based on whims, but verified all of their sources and narration. Do you _really_ think that somehow there wouldn’t be a few odd weak hadiths? This is even more proof of Islam if anything.
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
The stupidity of your argument shows you have the brain of a ghost or inferior to that. Alhamdulillah, the power of the science of hadiths is such that even the unbelievers have knowledge of them. Its a pity you have such a cursory and pathetic understanding of them though. The truth is that there is nothing in history as powerful as the science of the hadiths. Most history is just conjecture or based upon the opinions of so and so And Allah does preserve his quran. Any idiot could see the difference between preserving the quran and preserving individual manuscripts or copies. Stupod humans and hosts will of course fail to see it. Alhamdulillah for the quran, Islam and the wisdom of Islam that exposed the stupidity of other false ideologies.
@user-qh4dr1vy9d
@user-qh4dr1vy9d Жыл бұрын
The Quran is the word of God, keep up with the good work maleun allah
@brianpayne1016
@brianpayne1016 6 жыл бұрын
How can I learn what muslims believe if i dont know any can someone please tell me as I'm searching for God and don't know what is truth
@kazm9669
@kazm9669 6 жыл бұрын
In summary, muslims have six main beliefs. Belief in Allah as the one and only God Belief in angels Belief in the holy books Belief in the Prophets... e.g. Adam, Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Dawud (David), Isa (Jesus). And Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the final prophet. Belief in the Day of Judgement... The day when the life of every human being will be assessed to decide whether they go to heaven or hell. Belief in Predestination... That Allah has the knowlege of all that will happen. Muslims believe that this doesn't stop human beings making free choices.
@kazm9669
@kazm9669 6 жыл бұрын
Learning Muslim Hi, I would recommend reading the Quran, a lot of people read it and found there answers. But beware, the Quran is very complex you should find a teacher to explain it to you. For two reasons, the Quran shouldn’t be read subjectively because everyone would have a difference of opinion, it should be understood how the prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and his compainions understood it. Also, without having a teacher unclear verses may confuse you and you may not seek to learn anymore, sometimes this happens. However I am still a learning Muslim, shamsi has more knowledge than me you can, he can help you understand/ clarify my statements- contact via email- Sunnidawah@outlook.com
@brianpayne1016
@brianpayne1016 6 жыл бұрын
Learning Muslim thank you God bless for the info my friend. Maybe im getting there because I believe in only one God and angels and that Jesus is the christ the messiah not God
@nutellacheese6017
@nutellacheese6017 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianpayne1016 How's your journey been brother?
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianpayne1016 Brian I would love to clarify any confusions or tough questions you may have.
@lynnyasmeendrizzle93
@lynnyasmeendrizzle93 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no doubt that Allah is one and the Quran is his Revelation
@kazm9669
@kazm9669 6 жыл бұрын
Could someone explain to me about the burning of the Quran, and how it wasn’t corrupted. I’m trying to find an answer but cannot on KZfaq unforunately. Perhaps shamsi could make a video about it ? Jazakallah Khair
@khalifah4555
@khalifah4555 6 жыл бұрын
Learning Muslim From my understanding, Burning the Quran should only be done when destroying it. You are not allowed to throw it in bins or dispose of it other ways. Secondly, the Quran has never changed. There are Qurans that are over 500 years old and the words are exactly the same as the words you find in the Quran today
@Nida_426
@Nida_426 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I can explain if u want
@yowhaatsup
@yowhaatsup 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nida_426 can you please explain
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 2 жыл бұрын
Hadith 510 Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to `Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Qur'an) as Jews and the Christians did before." So `Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to `Uthman. `Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, `Abdullah bin AzZubair, Sa`id bin Al-As and `AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. `Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you DISAGREE with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, `Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be BURNT !!! Therefore it is PROVED that there were DIFFERENT QURANS Before Uthmans Copies. Refute that !!!!
@mynameisname2735
@mynameisname2735 2 жыл бұрын
authenticity? chain of narration? proper reference numbers. we have seen from previous comments that you use weak hadiths and you are ignorant about them therefore you cannot be trusted.
@mynameisname2735
@mynameisname2735 2 жыл бұрын
if you have enough time to look at the "9300 errors of Quran" then you have enough time to watch the video that your commenting on.
@mynameisname2735
@mynameisname2735 2 жыл бұрын
the last 6 minutes of the video addresses your nonsense. you are truly an ignorant blind individual
@mynameisname2735
@mynameisname2735 2 жыл бұрын
`Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be BURNT !!! so Uthman ra saved the ummah from fitnah and stopped the differing. He saved the people of sham from becoming like the people of the book. the last 6 minutes of the video literally talks about what you are saying.
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynameisname2735 Muslims claim that the text of the Qur'an is identical to that received by Muhammad. However is this the truth? There is overwhelming evidence that it is not: Why did 'Uthman destroy other copies of the Qur'an, unless they contained variations/ differences ? Why did Ibn Ma'sud refuse to hand over his copy for destruction? How do we know that 'Uthman's copy was different/better than any of the others? Also there is evidence that changes to the Qur'an continued after the time of 'Uthman:- Jam' Al-Qur'an Chapter 5 - The Seven Different Readings! There are Hadiths which say the Qur'an is incomplete, Both the Qur'an and the Sunna give evidence that some of the Qur'an was lost, forgotten, or abrogated: There are further evidences of whole surahs said to be missing from the Qur'an as it is today. Abu Musa al-Ash'ari, one of the early authorities on the Qur'an text and a companion of Muhammad, is reported to have said to the reciters of Basra: We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust". Narrated A’isha: "During the time of the prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be two hundred verses when read. When Uthman edited the copies of the Qur’an, only the current verses were recorded "Ubay ibn Ka’b: "This companion asked one of the Muslims, ‘How many verses in the chapter of the Parties’ He said, ‘Seventy-two or seventy-three verses.’ He (Ubay) told him, ‘It used to be almost equal to the chapter of the Cow (about 286 verses) and included the verse of the stoning. This was narrated by Maalik in al-Muwatta’ (Kitaab ar-Ridaa‘, hadith no. 17), and via him by Imam Muslim (1452) and others. We may note here that the report of Imam Maalik from ‘Abdullah ibn Abi Bakr includes mention of the story of the goat or tame sheep eating pages of the Mus-haf.: It was narrated by Muhammad ibn Ishaaq. His version says: The verse of stoning and breastfeeding of an adult ten times was revealed, and it was written on a leaf that was kept beneath the bed of [‘Aa’ishah’s] house. When the Messenger of Allah fell sick, we were preoccupied with his situation, and a little animal came in and ate it. (Sahih Muslim) There are Hadiths which refer to suras which are not in the modern Qur'an. Surely this indicates that the Qur'an has changed since the time of these Hadiths. Also there are many disputes among Scholars about the order of Sura's, While Ubayy ibn Ka'b’s Quran begins with Sura 1 and ends with Sura 114, Ibn Masud’s Quran starts with Sura 2 and ends with Sura 94. ’Ibn Umar al-Khattab: "Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Qur’an for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Qur’an has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available" Therefore the standard Narrative itself reveals that the Quran is incomplete and inconsistent, and Muslims cannot then claim that the Quran is uncorrupted or perfectly preserved. If the Qur'an truly is uncorrupted, why does the Muslim world not publish the oldest Qur'an manuscripts? What is there to hide? Yet more importantly we are now finding there a 37 different Variants which exist in present-day manuscripts and by simply comparing existing manuscripts, it can be shown that not all Qur'an manuscripts are the same. Therefore, the TRUTH is that the Qur'an has NOT been perfectly preserved but has been corrupted by Man
@nazimasultanpuri2641
@nazimasultanpuri2641 5 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum.I want to understand that how is it that Khidr knew more than Musa. Did he get wahi? Was he a Prophet? BarakAllahu feek
@idrisgbede9610
@idrisgbede9610 5 жыл бұрын
Umm Zaan. Al Khidar was a prophet scholars mentoined that.
@alfonso201
@alfonso201 6 жыл бұрын
Br shams can you make a video in detail refuting the lie that hafs was a liar
@MKOFORTNITE
@MKOFORTNITE 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Abdi خالد عبدالرحمن that Christian prince used it with his claims on Titans TV. I want that guy to be debated and silenced
@fitrah8822
@fitrah8822 6 жыл бұрын
Na'am 😊
@latifaaitomar2067
@latifaaitomar2067 3 жыл бұрын
Salemo3alahicom wala3matolahi wabalakatoho jazakalaha o3ahilan a3eh chamsi balakalaha ofique Macha ahallah Allah inowalk i3fadak incha ahallah 👍 👍 🇧🇪 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
@randomrandom6939
@randomrandom6939 6 жыл бұрын
But who kept damma kassa in Quran.And why angels prostrate to Adam.Is angels prostrate like us behind emaam.I want to know in details.
@locohuss8025
@locohuss8025 6 жыл бұрын
Random Random did you even read the Quran?? I don’t think you did because Allaah mentions why the angels prostrated. Many times I’ve seen people talk and ask about things which Allaah has answered in the Quran.
@randomrandom6939
@randomrandom6939 6 жыл бұрын
GFunk187 I don't know whole Quran that's why.
@Gaga4Parma
@Gaga4Parma 6 жыл бұрын
Random Random it's a good time to read it then brother...
@locohuss8025
@locohuss8025 6 жыл бұрын
A wise person does his research and reads and learns, IF he cannot find it then he should only ask then. You’re not even trying to find the answers but you put your questions forth expecting someone else to answer for you?
@locohuss8025
@locohuss8025 6 жыл бұрын
rod of discipline why would I leave it, if it only brings me closer to God?!! You are the one filled with hate and anger, look at the way you put forth your statement, I haven’t used such statements yet. I know my friend, the truth burns you. It’s antiseptic medicine.
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 3 жыл бұрын
Muslims claim that the text of the Qur'an is identical to that received by Muhammad. However is it the truth? There is overwhelming evidence that it is not: Why did 'Uthman destroy other copies of the Qur'an, unless they contained variants? Why did Ibn Ma'sud refuse to hand over his copy for destruction? How do we know that 'Uthman's copy was different/better than any of the others? There is evidence that changes to the Qur'an continued after the time of 'Uthman:- Jam' Al-Qur'an Chapter 5 - The Seven Different Readings. There are Hadiths which say the Qur'an is incomplete, Both the Qur'an and the Sunna give evidence that some of the Qur'an was lost, forgotten, or abrogated: There are further evidences of whole surahs said to be missing from the Qur'an as it is today. Abu Musa al-Ash'ari, one of the early authorities on the Qur'an text and a companion of Muhammad, is reported to have said to the reciters of Basra: We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust". ( Sahih Muslim) There are Hadiths which refer to suras which are not in the modern Qur'an. Surely this indicates that the Qur'an has changed since the time of these Hadiths. If the Qur'an truly is uncorrupted, why does the Muslim world not publish the oldest Qur'an manuscripts? What is there to hide? Yet most importantly Variants which exist in present-day manuscripts so by simply comparing existing manuscripts, it can be shown that not all Qur'an manuscripts are the same. Therefore, the Qur'an has not been perfectly preserved.
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 2 жыл бұрын
@Mohammed Nasser Dont tell me to shut up. You want to supress the TRUTH, because you are too scared of the TRUTH. Muslims claim that the text of the Qur'an is identical to that received by Muhammad. However is it the truth? There is overwhelming evidence that it is not: Why did 'Uthman destroy other copies of the Qur'an, unless they contained variants? Why did Ibn Ma'sud refuse to hand over his copy for destruction? How do we know that 'Uthman's copy was different/better than any of the others? There is evidence that changes to the Qur'an continued after the time of 'Uthman:- Jam' Al-Qur'an Chapter 5 - The Seven Different Readings There are Hadiths which say the Qur'an is incomplete, Both the Qur'an and the Sunna give evidence that some of the Qur'an was lost, forgotten, or abrogated: There are further evidences of whole surahs said to be missing from the Qur'an as it is today. Abu Musa al-Ash'ari, one of the early authorities on the Qur'an text and a companion of Muhammad, is reported to have said to the reciters of Basra: We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust". (Sahih Muslim) There are Hadiths which refer to suras which are not in the modern Qur'an. Surely this indicates that the Qur'an has changed since the time of these Hadiths. We know from the Quran itself that the Verses for Stoning and Breastfeeding are missing. ’Ibn Umar al-Khattab: "Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Qur’an for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Qur’an has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available"’ A’isha: "During the time of the prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be two hundred verses when read. When Uthman edited the copies of the Qur’an, only the current verses were recorded" Ubay ibn Ka’b: "This companion asked one of the Muslims, ‘How many verses in the chapter of the Parties’ He said, ‘Seventy-two or seventy-three verses.’ He (Ubay) told him, ‘It used to be almost equal to the chapter of the Cow (about 286 verses) and included the verse of the stoning. This was narrated by Maalik in al-Muwatta’ (Kitaab ar-Ridaa‘, hadith no. 17), and via him by Imam Muslim (1452) and others. We may note here that the report of Imam Maalik from ‘Abdullah ibn Abi Bakr includes mention of the story of the goat or tame sheep eating pages of the Mus-haf.: It was narrated by Muhammad ibn Ishaaq. His version says: The verse of stoning and breastfeeding of an adult ten times was revealed, and it was written on a leaf that was kept beneath the bed of [‘Aa’ishah’s] house. When the Messenger of Allah fell sick, we were preoccupied with his situation, and a little animal came in and ate it. There are many disputes among Scholars about the order of Sura's, While Ubayy ibn Ka'b’s Quran begins with Sura 1 and ends with Sura 114, Ibn Masud’s Quran starts with Sura 2 and ends with Sura 94. Therefore the standard Narrative itself reports it's own contradiction, and Muslims cannot then claim that the Quran is uncorrupted or perfectly preserved. If the Qur'an truly is uncorrupted, why does the Muslim world not publish the oldest Qur'an manuscripts? What is there to hide? Yet most importantly Variants which exist in present-day manuscripts and by simply comparing existing manuscripts, it can be shown that not all Qur'an manuscripts are the same. Therefore, the Qur'an has not been perfectly preserved.
@SaidB1n
@SaidB1n Жыл бұрын
You have been refuted many times now
@thegoodresident
@thegoodresident 4 ай бұрын
What's the evidence it was the original Quran that Uthman burnt? Uthman burnt the copies that weren't correct, they weren't correct in the sense that these copies were written by people themselves from their own memory, not during the supervision of the Prophet Muhammad, since people were writing from their memory, they were bound to make mistakes or write down things that they weren't 100% sure of. That's why, all those copies that were conflicting were burnt, and the Quran was compiled in the original form by the companions who learnt the Quran directly from the Prophet himself. People who learnt the Quran from the Prophet directly were involved in the compilation of the Quran, the very trusted companions of the Prophets were involved. At the end of the day, people like Abu bakr, the best friend of the Prophet Muhammad agreed with Uthman. So who are you to even question Uthman's authenticity?
@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN
@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN 4 жыл бұрын
HEY SHAMSI CAN YOU GIVE ME THE OLDEST COMPLETE QURAN IN MUSLIMS HAND LET US COMPARE IT TO YOUR 1924 QURAN
@Nida_426
@Nida_426 4 жыл бұрын
One is kept at Istanbul Topakapi museum
@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN
@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nida_426 it is not even complete and it is not even a 7th century quran
@Nida_426
@Nida_426 4 жыл бұрын
How can u say that brother
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
The quran is a recitation and memorised and transmitted that way. When it was revealed, manuscripts were a rare thing. Hence your request shows you don't know enough history. What is your point?
@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN
@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel muslims claimed they gave a complete quran in the first century of islam where is it??
@AnswerEasy
@AnswerEasy 6 жыл бұрын
Do we wanna talk about Hatun and her shameful ilk confusing the letter "fa" with "qaf" because it was written in different scripts? Absolutely and disgustingly embarassing. Salam alaykum to all and sabrun jameel.
@justCommando
@justCommando 3 жыл бұрын
Nice green screen.
@chrischow9085
@chrischow9085 6 жыл бұрын
A book that describe the earth as spread out flat like a carpet and the sun sets into a pool of murky water is unchanged is suppose to show some kind of evidence?
@Musa13922
@Musa13922 5 жыл бұрын
chris chow 1) when you're walking on a road does it look flat and spread out? The crust of earth is the carpet. Never says it's flat, it's even mentioned in the Quran that it's egg shaped like ostriches egg. 2) Allah's talking about dhul quirnuine and how the sun looked like it was sitting in a muddy pool of water, to dhul quirnine. So far I haven't seen a scientific mistake in quran so far. Pls try again :)
@chrischow9085
@chrischow9085 5 жыл бұрын
Muslim claim that they can't find a single mistake from their holy book. Well that settles it doesn't it? All we need is the followers of a religion to verify that religion and if this is all we need than all religions becomes true which means that your Allah is lying about him being the one and only. See the irony yet? Let's see if your own Islamic sources agrees with your egg shaped narrative. Quran 79:30 Sahih International: And after that He spread the earth. Pickthall: And after that He spread the earth, Yusuf Ali: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); Shakir: And the earth, He expanded it after that. Muhammad Sarwar: After this, He spread out the earth, Mohsin Khan: And after that He spread the earth; Arberry: and the earth-after that He spread it out, Nope not even a single one. You got that from a modern re-interpretation from scholars and preacher that is so ashamed of their Quran that they had to make up lies to correct it. They and you as Muslims are corrupting your own book. Which is also ironic since you claim that the words of god cannot be corrupted.
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
Dunce alert
@chrischow9085
@chrischow9085 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel all coming from people who believe god came up with a book which say the sun sets into a pool of murky water. Lol
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrischow9085 A great demonstration of your ignorance and stupidity. Is this supposed to be some form of rational argumentation from you. Or are childish jibes all you're capable of?
@successse8244
@successse8244 4 жыл бұрын
I love shamsi for the sake of Allah
@pinoyfuntvph5457
@pinoyfuntvph5457 8 ай бұрын
Many of pages Original Quran burned by Uthman and issue his Standard Quran....hehehehe
@thegoodresident
@thegoodresident 4 ай бұрын
What's the evidence it was the original Quran that Uthman burnt? Uthman burnt the copies that weren't correct, they weren't correct in the sense that these copies were written by people themselves from their own memory, not during the supervision of the Prophet Muhammad, since people were writing from their memory, they were bound to make mistakes or write down things that they weren't 100% sure of. That's why, all those copies that were conflicting were burnt, and the Quran was compiled in the original form by the companions who learnt the Quran directly from the Prophet himself. People who learnt the Quran from the Prophet directly were involved in the compilation of the Quran, the very trusted companions of the Prophets were involved. At the end of the day, people like Abu bakr, the best friend of the Prophet Muhammad agreed with Uthman. So who are you to even question Uthman's authenticity?
@esahamzaabdul-maalik9234
@esahamzaabdul-maalik9234 5 жыл бұрын
ESA, A;HADULILAH.......
@SunniDawah
@SunniDawah 5 жыл бұрын
jazaakallahu khayran, please remember subscribe, hit the like button & share this video to your friends & family and share on all your social media platforms. Please spread the video.
@nothingnothing5638
@nothingnothing5638 3 жыл бұрын
But it was
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 3 жыл бұрын
proof?
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
That statement was nothing. Nothing.
@vakudibeardefender3953
@vakudibeardefender3953 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a fake background!!!!!??......
@goldenrain87
@goldenrain87 5 жыл бұрын
Jazak’Allah khair dear brother Shamsi
@SunniDawah
@SunniDawah 5 жыл бұрын
jazaakallahu khayran, please remember subscribe, hit the like button & share this video to your friends & family and share on all your social media platforms.
@saifskyline
@saifskyline 6 жыл бұрын
Clown Hatun 😂
@maxb9315
@maxb9315 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Islamo-fantasy land.
@emmancasada7654
@emmancasada7654 4 жыл бұрын
Ahahahhaha Different words so different meaning Hahahahahahahaha
@user-zz4zz8ze9f
@user-zz4zz8ze9f 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 look at you butthurt
@elainejones5473
@elainejones5473 3 ай бұрын
My friend, please check your facts. There are 150 different canonical Arabic Qurans. Not seven. 150. Ten Qira'at, 2 Rawiyan for each Qura, two Tariqs for each Rawi, and two Tariqs for each of those Tariqs. Do the math: 10 +20+40+80=150. Nothing in the early sources said that Gabriel revealed the Quran in 150 harf.
@XCS8000
@XCS8000 3 ай бұрын
Keep it simple for them, Muslims are slow: Read Tafsir al-Jalalayn for Surah 11:81
@iunais8324
@iunais8324 4 жыл бұрын
Shamsi = شمس السنة
@Herman47
@Herman47 2 жыл бұрын
Quran 6:115: "The Word of your Lord has been perfected in truth and justice. *NONE can change His Words* ." Let us consider Quran 43:19, in both the Hafs version and the Warsh version. The Warsh version omits the significant fact that your god owns slaves. The Hafs version asserts that your god has slaves. There is a BIG distinction here . Likely those who compiled the Warsh version were too ashamed to admit that their god approves of slavery. [See also Quran 70:29-30, in which your allah permits a married Muslim man to commit adultery with his sex slave]. Now then, what version was given to Muhammad by Jibreel? The verse indicating that Allah has slaves? Or the other verse? Allah was mistaken when he said "none can change his words." Humans did change his words for Quran 43:19. Do you also love slavery, Sunni Dawah? If Muhammad or his imaginary allah had simply stated, "Slavery is forbidden," would the followers of Muhammad have owned and traded slaves FOR CENTURIES ?
@SaidB1n
@SaidB1n Жыл бұрын
It is the Christian west who invented slavery, treating humans as dogs and filth. And now you want to point to other nations? Don't dare to compare servitude in Islam with your disgusting unhuman slavery.
@lloydndhlovu7985
@lloydndhlovu7985 5 жыл бұрын
Christian Prince is waiting for you BROTHER. Stop wasting time with people who agree with you. Get out there and let's see if you can handle the chaos. Stop playing
@juraganbatu1389
@juraganbatu1389 5 жыл бұрын
He's COWARD!!
@user-iq5nu7tc6x
@user-iq5nu7tc6x 5 жыл бұрын
Who? Oh you mean that joke...lol
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
CP is a nut
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 3 жыл бұрын
The first recorded text in the Arabic alphabet was written in AD512, and only had 16 Letters, it was the transition script from the previous Nabataean variation of the Aramaic alphabet, itself a derivative from the former Phoenician language. This was the Arabic alphabet Uthman used to supposedly write the Quran in 652. However, this Arabic script is written without ḥarakāt (Diacritical marks and vowels), these were first introduced in 656 by fourth Caliphate Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib, but the rest were only finalized around 786 by al-Farahidi. Moreover, the present day Arabic language has 28 letters and only this is used to write the current Quran. Therefore, not only has the language of the Quran been changed by the addition of the Dots and Vowels, but the original script used in the Uthmanic text has had to be extracted/expanded/ translated from the ORIGINAL 16 Letter “RASM” Clear Text, and therefore CANNOT be the original writing or meaning. Proving beyond any doubt that it has been corrupted by Man.
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
One major flaw in your reasoning. The Quran which means the recitation, is transmitted orally and by perfect memorisation. Show me a variant which has only 16 alphabets. What you probably mean is that certain alphabets look the same without diacritical points. These are not the same alphabet just as E and F are not the same.
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel You do not have an early Uthmanic Quran that is a lie, and even if you did it would only be 16 Characters. The Currant Haafs Quran was only established in 1924 by the Egyptians and only canonised in 1985. However today there are 37 different Versions, with more than 93000 differences between them. Even the Rasm are not even from the 7th Century, and now we are finding that even these differ in 10000's of ways from each other. There have been untold alterations, changes, coverings and erasures. There are so many parts missing from each one, that even combining all of the Manuscripts together still won’t make a whole Musaf. There are NOT just HOLES in the Quran story, they are GAPING CHASMS, which cannot be explained. So how can anyone with any logic or common sense believe that it is the Word of God ?. The FACTS are that there is no such thing as "The Quran" there are many variants with many different words, meaning and even order of the Sura's E.g. Ibn Masud’s Codex starts 2,4.3,7 & ends with Sura 94. While Ubayy’s begins 1,2,4,3 and ends with 114.
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@bertiebasset6025 Are you a loon? Did you read my post. The Quran was primarily a recitation. Writing was secondary. The official quran was compiled during the time of the caliphs not the prophet pbuh so it was clear that the book form was not considered the important part. Formation of the Book was only when the primary form ie memorisation was at risk from the huffaz dying in battle.
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@bertiebasset6025 LOL was that just copy and paste 😂😂🤣
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel If thats the case, even by your own sources there are 7 Recitations. However in fact there are over 37 DIFFRENT recitations. And if you recall Even Uthman had problems with VARIOUS DIFFERENT RECITATIONS, which is WHY he HAD no CHOICE but to standardise them and write them DOWN. This DESTOYES your argument TOTALLY!!!!
@MrKkoool
@MrKkoool Жыл бұрын
It itself is a foolish thing. Pisszlame is always the same lie lie lie and lie
@MrKkoool
@MrKkoool Жыл бұрын
@@AbdillahibnYusha are you sure that what gibril said was exactly refuted by Mohammad? And Mohammad's followers refuted it exactly for 200 years post his death and people who wrote Quran wrote exactly what was refuted? If you say yes provide a valid proof? Why do muslims lie that it was written by God and preserved it is this enough to say Islam is lies.
@MrKkoool
@MrKkoool Жыл бұрын
@@AbdillahibnYusha work on your false book quran and then mock my English, when you can't answer you come with accusations, 😂😂😂, you understood my English but can't answer my question, read it once or ask your fellow followers to read it then try to answer. Liers as usual. You mohammad followers are greater liers than Muhammad himself.
@MrKkoool
@MrKkoool Жыл бұрын
@@AbdillahibnYusha 1. Are you sure mohammad refuted the exact words with his followers which were said by gibril in cave hira? 2. How can you say the words refuted by Mohammad were exactly memorized by his followers for 200 years?
@MrKkoool
@MrKkoool Жыл бұрын
@@AbdillahibnYusha any proofs of gibril's words? What kind of manuscripts? They might be false proofs to defend your claims. No historical evidence of Mohammad's lineage with Abraham, how can a man born to a woman 4 years post the death of her husband? And he turns out to be a self proclaimed prophet, just by corrupting Jewish and Christian writings creating a new religion which allows the worship of a black stone which originates from a God in India doesn't make your religion monotheist. Firstly, is your allah male or female?
@koenboomsma92
@koenboomsma92 8 ай бұрын
@@MrKkoool because it has
@reji8143
@reji8143 5 жыл бұрын
Debate Christian Prince. Enough hollow speeches already.
@reji8143
@reji8143 3 жыл бұрын
Anas Siddiqui That is wonderful considering people are leaving Islam left right and centre in his show almost everyday even now 😂😂
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
CP is a loon. And so are those impressed by him
@reji8143
@reji8143 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel Really? Debate him and prove it then. Let’s find out who is a loon.
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@reji8143 You can't debate a loon. Bring me one of his arguments that impresses you and we'll refute it here.
@reji8143
@reji8143 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel Lolz... muslims talking about debate is the funniest thing ever. You muslims can’t bring ONE good reason why Quran is true in all these years and now you wan to debate CP “good arguments” ?? That’s cute 😂😂
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 3 жыл бұрын
Despite Muslims claiming that there were thousands of reciter’s at the time of Mohamed and for that reason there can be no loss of details from collective memory. Yet we know from the Quran itself that the Verses for Stoning and Breastfeeding are missing. ’Ibn Umar al-Khattab: "Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Qur’an for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Qur’an has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is available"’ A’isha: "During the time of the prophet, the chapter of the Parties used to be two hundred verses when read. When Uthman edited the copies of the Qur’an, only the current verses were recorded" Ubay ibn Ka’b: "This companion asked one of the Muslims, ‘How many verses in the chapter of the Parties’ He said, ‘Seventy-two or seventy-three verses.’ He (Ubay) told him, ‘It used to be almost equal to the chapter of the Cow (about 286 verses) and included the verse of the stoning. This was narrated by Maalik in al-Muwatta’ (Kitaab ar-Ridaa‘, hadith no. 17), and via him by Imam Muslim (1452) and others. We may note here that the report of Imam Maalik from ‘Abdullah ibn Abi Bakr includes mention of the story of the goat or tame sheep eating pages of the Mus-haf.: It was narrated by Muhammad ibn Ishaaq. His version says: The verse of stoning and breastfeeding of an adult ten times was revealed, and it was written on a leaf that was kept beneath the bed of [‘Aa’ishah’s] house. When the Messenger of Allah fell sick, we were preoccupied with his situation, and a little animal came in and ate it. There are even disputes about the order of Sura's - Ibn Masud’s Quran starts 2,4.3,7 & ends with Sura 94. While Ubayy’s begins 1,2,4,3 and ends with 114. Therefore the Quran itself reports it is lacking parts and Muslims cannot then claim that the Quran is complete.
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 3 жыл бұрын
you asked for 10 Differences, but did you even bother to look in the link I sent you ? No of course you didn't because you are SCARED of what you would find According to Islamic tradition, the Quran was revealed to Mohamed in Seven ahruf (translated as "dialects" or "styles". 20 years after Mohamed died, 3rd Caliph Uthman had Zaid bin Thubit along with other 2 Scribes, retrieve a copy from under Hafsa’s Bed, and despite her stating that 2 pages had been lost, and one Sura forgotten compiles the remaining parts from various "Reciters" Bark, Leaves & Stones. Uthman then without prior direction from Mohamed, has his Official Qurans sent out to all the provinces, and then has all other copies of the Quran Burnt to ensure that it is read only in the Queshi Dialect. The Qira’at (Recitations or Readings) are the different linguistic, syntactical forms used while reciting the Quran. There are 10 different recognised schools of qira'at, each one deriving its name from a noted Quran reader. While these Quran readers lived in the second and third century of Islam, the scholar who first approved of the qira'at (Abu Bakr Ibn Mujāhid) lived a century later, and so did the "transmitters" who passed down the readings. This is part of the confusion that we see today, because despite Mohamed revealing the Quran in 7 different dialects, we find that Uthman rejected Mohammed’s instructions, and tries to have these very same 7 Ahruf eradicated. However, more importantly, we find that despite Uthmans best effort to erase these other readings, many have survived and indeed there are 37 different variants to this day. These Variant Qurans are NOT identical and differ in over 93000 differences. Therefore the Myth of Perfect preservation is TOTALLY and UTTERLY BUSTED. We are now discovering that there are 37 different versions of the Quran with 93,000 variations between them. So if the Quran were really the actual divine words of god, it could never contain any imperfection or disparity, let alone be in error, misunderstood or questioned. Even the Rasm (basic texts) in the 6 oldest manuscripts are not even from the Uthmanic period, none of them are complete, and now we are finding that even these differ from each other in thousands of significant ways. There are even parts missing: It was narrated by Muhammad ibn Ishaaq. His version says: The verse of stoning and breastfeeding of an adult ten times was revealed, and it was written on a leaf that was kept beneath the bed of [‘Aa’ishah]. When the Messenger of Allah fell sick, we were preoccupied with his situation, and a little animal came in and ate it. Even (Sahih Buckari) narrates that the 2 Top Reciters disagreed with each other, Abdula Ibn Masud said that Sura 1 Should not be in the Quran, However Ubay Ibn Kaab, said there were 2 additional Suras that are not in the current Quran. The facts are that there is no such thing as "the Quran" there are many variants with thousands of differences, meanings and even order of the Sura's. Therefore, it cannot be the inerrant perfect word of god in anyway whatsoever! It is a Proven FACT there is no such thing as a "Perfectly preserved Quran", and now the biggest deception in history perpetrated upon humanity has finally come out. The Haafs Quran is being dissected like a rotting cadaver in a forensic laboratory
@Randomhandlename
@Randomhandlename 2 жыл бұрын
Ibn ishaq was not an authoritative scholar of Hadith major scholars of Hadith warned against him he used to narrate from Jews and Christians and had many issues when it comes to his works so his Hadith was weak there are other similar narrations from stronger narrators in regards to breastfeeding which do not mention sheep eating ibn ishaq Hadith is weak “Ibn ad-Durays has narrated a report of Ibn ‘Umar that he used to dislike the person who said, ‘I have recited the whole of the Qur’an.’ He (Ibn ‘Umar) used to say, ‘But (the reality is) a part of the Qur’an has been abrogated.’”[6] This report confirms that Ibn ‘Umar’s statement simply refers to what was abrogated from the Qur’an. “And similar is the report of ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas from Ubayy, that he heard a man said to him: ‘O Abul-Munzar, verily I have gathered (i.e. memorized) the whole of the Qur’an.’ He (Ubayy) said to him, ‘He does not know (what the whole of it was) because so much of the Qur’an was abrogated and it was not found afterwards. Narrated Abu Bakrah: The Prophet said: “One of you should not say: ‘I fasted the whole of Ramadan, and I prayed during the night in the whole of Ramadan.’ I do not know whether he disliked the self-praise; or he (the narrator) said: ‘He must have slept a little and taken rest.’”[14] We can see that even though it is natural that one who would fast as such for the whole month of Ramadan, will break the fasts at night and will also sleep besides standing in late-night prayers, yet an out of the way step is taken in instructing not to make such a claim. The fact that narration of Ibn ‘Umar is in essence similar to this and involves the idea of claim as well; it can help us appreciate the real message in the words of Ibn ‘Umar.
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 2 жыл бұрын
@@Randomhandlename We are now discovering that there are 37 different versions of the Quran with 93,000 variations between them. So if the Quran were really the actual divine words of god, it could never contain any imperfection or disparity, let alone be in error, misunderstood or questioned. Yet Even the Rasm (basic texts) in the 6 oldest manuscripts are not even from the Uthmanic period, none of them are complete, and now we are finding that even these differ from each other in thousands of significant ways. There are even parts missing: It was narrated by Muhammad ibn Ishaaq. His version says: The verse of stoning and breastfeeding of an adult ten times was revealed, and it was written on a leaf that was kept beneath the bed of [‘Aa’ishah]. When the Messenger of Allah fell sick, we were preoccupied with his situation, and a little animal came in and ate it. Even (Sahih Buckari) narrates that the 2 Top Reciters disagreed with each other, Abdula Ibn Masud said that Sura 1 Should not be in the Quran, However Ubay Ibn Kaab, said there were 2 additional Suras that are not in the current Quran. The facts are that there is no such thing as "the Quran" there are many variants with thousands of differences, meanings and even order of the Sura's. Therefore, it cannot be the inerrant perfect word of god in anyway whatsoever! It is a Proven FACT there is no such thing as a "Perfectly preserved Quran", and now the biggest deception in history perpetrated upon humanity has finally come out. The Haafs Quran is being dissected like a rotting cadaver in a forensic laboratory. This was narrated by Maalik in al-Muwatta’ (Kitaab ar-Ridaa‘, hadith no. 17), and via him by Imam Muslim (1452) and others. We may note here that the report of Imam Maalik from ‘Abdullah ibn Abi Bakr includes mention of the story of the goat or tame sheep eating pages of the Mus-haf.: It was narrated by Muhammad ibn Ishaaq. His version says: The verse of stoning and breastfeeding of an adult ten times was revealed, and it was written on a leaf that was kept beneath the bed of [‘Aa’ishah’s] house. When the Messenger of Allah fell sick, we were preoccupied with his situation, and a little animal came in and ate it. This was narrated by Imam Ahmad in al-Musnad (43/343), and Ibn Maajah in as-Sunan (no. 1944); the latter version says: When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.
@Randomhandlename
@Randomhandlename 2 жыл бұрын
@@bertiebasset6025 I didn’t bother reading anything else after your first sentence lol
@bertiebasset6025
@bertiebasset6025 2 жыл бұрын
@@Randomhandlename Thats because you are not ready for the Truth. Sad really, but I am sure you are happy in the Fantasy World that you have created for yourself
@meninoandrade4174
@meninoandrade4174 5 жыл бұрын
Why does it even matter. Just because Quran as us say is preserved, does not earn the right to be word of God. Eventhing in it came from corrupt human mind.
@NATURLIST
@NATURLIST 5 жыл бұрын
preserved and tell us things in the 7century that no human beings did know then and before, and couldn't have known with just their mere humane capabilities but later in our times 20 and 21st century they discovered theses fact about different part of the universe via science' hence' confirm the quran to be from the maker of the universe and therefore truthful and relevant to the claim of it[Quran] being from GOD.
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares what you think What importance is your weird opinion
@robertrmbagwell7969
@robertrmbagwell7969 4 жыл бұрын
Oh foolish men and slow to believe all that the prophets have written...
@ser578
@ser578 6 жыл бұрын
shamsi! most off the time i agree with you. But this time you got in WRONG. Dont play your self you have quran from the 9 century the early ones where lost because they died in battle or burned
@ChristianPrince2
@ChristianPrince2 5 жыл бұрын
call me abdul so we can laugh at what you just said in this video.
@juraganbatu1389
@juraganbatu1389 5 жыл бұрын
He's coward...!!
@binyamina8850
@binyamina8850 5 жыл бұрын
The Arabian Prophet Laana aleik. You will rot in hell dragging your intestines
@sigurdg2730
@sigurdg2730 3 жыл бұрын
Holey quran with all the holes in the narrative lol
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 3 жыл бұрын
nah thats false
@magicallife1734
@magicallife1734 5 жыл бұрын
the biggest lie here is that, Shamsi lier claimed Mohamed decided which verse (Aya) should be included in which chapter (Sura) this is pure lie without evidence. Moreover, he even dare to claim it was Allah who ordered Mohammed where every verse should be placed in. if Allah ordered Mohammed which verses should be included in to which chapter, that means the uttered word of Allah about those verses and their placement should be have been in the Quran itself. Otherwise, the words of Allah is missing from Quran, consequently, you will arrive at the conclusion that the words of Allah are not preserved, which also means Quran is altered and it has the ✋ of people. then you claim Quran is revieled in 7 different receitations, that it self makes, your Quran is not perfect and deficient. where is the one Quran book with 7 different receitations?
@user-iq5nu7tc6x
@user-iq5nu7tc6x 5 жыл бұрын
Magical Life You literally have no idea what your talking about.
@malcomwellben1741
@malcomwellben1741 6 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Muslims aren't really Muslims at all. Muslims follow Abdul Malik and it was he who coined the name Muslims not Muhammad. He also added 102 Surahs (chapters) to the Quran sourced from early Samarian, Babylonian, biblical and Judaism texts. Muhammad's contribution was 20 chapters but 40% was lost in the battle of Yomama three months after the death of Muhammed poisoned by his Jewish wife. This means the Quran did have 12 chapters from Muhammad but Abdull Malik modified that to create his war book of 114 chapters called Al- Quran. This is history Muslims don't know. The Hadeeths where introduced 250 years after Muhammad's death and are unreliable as proven by 12 year olds playing Chinese whispers.
@sallymayflower5949
@sallymayflower5949 5 жыл бұрын
Evidence?
@shadow-x-v4574
@shadow-x-v4574 4 жыл бұрын
Nice plot twist , but not convincing .👏 bring evidence at least .
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
Good blah blah
@mrbaltazar
@mrbaltazar 6 жыл бұрын
A little critical thinking here please! Shamsi is deluded
@thinkislamcheckmychannel
@thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 жыл бұрын
Go ahead then. Bring your critical thinking
@correctionofficer9273
@correctionofficer9273 5 жыл бұрын
How to leave islam in 20 minutes? Ex Muslim
@hawrezsaid2378
@hawrezsaid2378 5 жыл бұрын
Lol you were never muslim !
@Ashghaus
@Ashghaus 5 жыл бұрын
THE QURAN HAS BEEN CHANGED YOU FOOL
@ronmka8931
@ronmka8931 3 жыл бұрын
proof?
@rickyrack8852
@rickyrack8852 6 жыл бұрын
The quran the way its recited has been changed many Times, your scriptures speak about it. Theres no need to come and rearrange another foundation, making IT seem like it hasnt been changed.
@IdrisAHamid
@IdrisAHamid 6 жыл бұрын
Rivalio Vegas I understand your desperation.
@rickyrack8852
@rickyrack8852 6 жыл бұрын
Abdul Hamid i have none brother.
@IdrisAHamid
@IdrisAHamid 6 жыл бұрын
Rivalio Vegas Your statement is evident of that and is opposite of your denial.
@rickyrack8852
@rickyrack8852 6 жыл бұрын
Abdul Hamid what AM i in denial in according to your view? Doesn't your books claim there were different recitations? Dont lie, Muhammad himself adressed someone who recited in another way when his companion learned IT another way from Muhammad, and Muhammad saith its also okay the way the other Guy recited. Do you want me to present evidence from your books? Cause u know its there 😂😏🎉🎉🎉
@saifuldeen
@saifuldeen 6 жыл бұрын
Rivalio Vegas did you even watch the video?
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