Ryzen 9 5900X Cooled By Wraith Prism CPU Cooler - Can The AMD Stock Cooler Handle A 12 Core BEAST?

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Ryzen 9 5900X and Wraith Prism, is this a combo that can work? In this video we take a look at cooling the Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core Zen 3 processors with AMD’s wraith prism stock cooler. The 5000 series never shipped with a stock cooler in the box(5600X is the exception) whereas previous gen ryzen parts like the 3900X or 3700X got the wraith prism. It’s a fairly decent stock cooler but AMD recommends you buy an aftermarket cooler to get the most out of the CPU. We compare the wraith prism against a high-end aftermarket CPU cooler the corsair H115i PRO XT 280mm AIO.
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00:55 No Stock cooler for 5000 Series
02:20 Why would you do this?
03:31 Test System
04:01 IDLE TEST
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@NoLuv4Hoz 3 жыл бұрын

So it seems AMD should have included a Wraith Prism with the 5900X because, as you've just demonstrated, it is completely adequate for cooling it.

@pandemicneetbux2110 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, this thing gets LOUD. As Steve at HWUB demonstrated part of the problem is acoustics, and considering how many enthusiasts have probably legit clinically diagnosed autism, I can see how some people may not want to tolerate a jet engine in their room, particularly because some people have soundbars and huge speaker/woofer systems set up, and/or are streaming and recording themselves which you're not going to do with that thing running full blast. Also because it'll run hot af while you're doing that. Of course "undervolting is the new OCing" so the meme goes on Ryzen, so...

@CrimtideStreams Жыл бұрын

Adequate? It hits the thermal throttle limit... who wants a cooler loud AF at idle temps and louder during gaming or production tasks? eww..

@ChosenOneDan Жыл бұрын

@@CrimtideStreams you can adjust the fan curve on it and it takes the noise way down. as others have mentioned they've ran 16 core ryzen chips on it and they run fine sure warm but within reasonable limits

@honkhonkler7732 Жыл бұрын

@@CrimtideStreams 86 degrees is the thermal throttle limit?

@IcaroMorse Жыл бұрын

@@honkhonkler7732 No, it's 90°C!

@rapid8983 Жыл бұрын

He explained my exact situation and my wraith prism isnt cutting it when i game heavy. Lots of overheating and frustration trying to find the problem. This video helped a lot so thank you for the work you put into your videos!

@james2706 2 жыл бұрын

Nailed it. Thank you for your content!!!

@funoh1 3 жыл бұрын

I like these practical/real-world scenario type of videos. Basically what I got out of this video is that the Wraith Prism does work but if you have the money to spend on a CPU fan it seems worth it over a free Wraith Prism. No knock on the Prism - probably great for a let's say 5600x but not for 5900x, I'm guessing.

@captaindaedalus1 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for providing a little info that's been overlooked. I would have liked for you to comment on whether a user would actually see a difference between the two setups.

@awstech6217 3 жыл бұрын

You deserve so many subs !!

@steelie4478 2 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly good video, first time watching. You earned yourself a sub sir.

@sentineluk7 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the useful info. Can't help thinking that comparing a (admittedly) high end stock cooler to a liquid cooling solution's not that fair, but the figures are still useful. I'd have liked to see how the Wraith compared to the Noctua as this might have been a bit of a fairer comparison and we can more clearly see the difference that after-market delivers, but your insights and info is still useful.

@datapro007 Жыл бұрын

Good video. There isn't a big performance difference between the Prism and the AIO as evidenced by the 100mhz difference in average frequencies under load. I'd love to see another test with the 5950x and a Noctua air cooler vs the Prism.

@willwunsche6940 Жыл бұрын

This was exactly what I need thank you. Almost regret getting the Noctua D15 I probably could've gotten away with this since I just game and I really like the way the prism looks. But oh well it's not the end of the world

@jacobbrown8561 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Danny! We ALL been wanting THIS Video. Wish a 240 AIO Tested. Nice data the a 280 AIO though.

@hughjazz44 2 жыл бұрын

You should've noted the frequency during the synthetic load. With the Wraith Prism, and at 86 degrees, the CPU was certainly walking back the core frequency to keep the temperature from going higher.

@DeadlyMixKrew 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. We're swapping out a R5 3900X for R9 5950X. This is for a professional recording studio main control-room authoring audio for music and film in both stereo and Dolby Atmos in Nuendo12. This PC needs to run a bunch of software simultaneously continually for as long as 10hrs straight and is generally never turned off. We have the AMD Wraith cooler that came with the 3900X and forgot to buy a cooler at the time of purchase and I was debating whether it would really matter and clearly it does, considering this is only a 12-Core in this test

@l3ongveiw 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't even watched this yet, but it's EXACTLY what I was trying to find out! Thanks for your efforts my dude. Subscribed!

@pandemicneetbux2110 2 жыл бұрын

>but why would anyone do a thing like that I'll answer this question by saying as a Wraith Prism owner, I am loathe to give up the thing based just on its looks. That is why. This is the real reason why any of us are so hard assed about not giving up our Wraith Prisms no matter what and why videos like these exist. It's a noisy little thing ramped up, but which is outclassed by my remorselessly aggressive GPU fan curve anyway, so clearly I don't care about that, and which I leave on some kind of "undervolt" on Ryzen Master anyway (that idk how much my x570 is outweighing that but considering I get 50s C on my 3700x 1.875v/4.325ghz suspect the undervolt is working as intended). It's not just about us being cheap, I mean hell if we're considering getting a 5900x or 5950x it's clearly not just being done to save a few quid which brings it near entirely to the real reason which is this is by far one of the nicest looking coolers out there and actually somehow manages to cool well enough that at least in theory you should be able to get a 5900x to run under it. It's been a real pain in my ass just trying to find anything at all which either fits my build or looks at least slightly good enough compared to losing this thing, which if you're into anything beyond silent black metal bricks is not easy. I think the Coolermaster MasterAir similar looking to their Wraith Ripper on sTR4 is the closest I can even do on air and that thing's f'ing $100+ for an air tower, with everything else being AIOs that I don't want to leave my PC running overnight with those things installed and which don't look good enough to me without costing multi-hundreds of dollars like all the LCD screen 360mm ones like the new MSI and Asus ones or the z73 Kraken. That's the level of good looks which I think this thing has, and a lot of that's got to do with the multiple layers of controllable LEDs system which produces this ghostly hologram like effect with the blades while the logo is lit up another color and another internal ring of LEDs circling around the fans in two cycling colors. You'd just have to see it to get it. Go look up some videos showing the different controllable settings on producing the hologram effect and realize none of them capture how nice it looks IRL. So basically, all that is what I'd have to be sacrificing just in order to get a $300 AIO that might spring a leak and is almost guaranteed to eventually die in a few years, that I can't leave my PC on, and the only reason I want the LCD screens is uploading my own gifs to match different themes. Anything less than that is probably going to look worse.

@Tigerhawk30 Жыл бұрын

A couple of years ago, for poops and giggles, I affixed my Prism to my 3950X. It maxed out at around 88C while running Folding @ Home for 24 hours, which I've found to be much more stressful than most stress tests short of something like rendering benchmarks, which I don't have. IIRC, most averages ran around 80C. Yes, it's a little hot vs an AIO or a Noctua, but it still runs it well within specs.

@dio5033 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome work as usual, you deserve wayy more subs man

@SKLL3TR Жыл бұрын

the thing is am buying the cpu and a motherboard so i wanted to know if i can use the Wraith Prism for a couple of months with light gaming and light video editing until i can afford an aio or a better air cooler

@DaniilBubnov Жыл бұрын

thanks for this video, i was considering using wrath prism with 5950, now I understand that this is a crazy idea. It's a bit strange that they report 105W for 5959x, which matches the wrath prism thermal input (only on paper as we clearly see)

@shuramixu 4 ай бұрын

What's up, I have a Corsair Liquid H45 but the default processor reaches 85 degrees only, which I have to activate to have the 75 degrees as I see in your video

@mcrazza 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for putting it together. Do you think a wraith prism coupled with a 5600x do a better job than the included wraith stealth?

@DannyzReviews 3 жыл бұрын

It will do considerably better and it'll be a decent upgrade if you already have one laying around. Though I should warn if you plan on playing around with PBO2 and AutoOC then you'll want an even better cooler.

@jerrym1401 2 жыл бұрын

@@DannyzReviews , 5600x with prism is more than enough for cpu to run at max frequency... Its not worth to invest more money on cooling as you're mainly gaming on 5600x and that doesn't stretch it to much... I have 5600x and prism and it doesn't go above 60 while gaming. For 5900x I would go with better cooler as noone getting that cpu uses it only for gaming, if he's smart 😉

@pandemicneetbux2110 2 жыл бұрын

@@DannyzReviews Eh I dunno maybe. 5600x is a 65w unit which is the same as my chiplet design 3700x and which I've only really seen hit 60s during boosting behaviour on PBO unless I did something wrong (I stopped trusting PBO and the boosting entirely and ended up just downvolting everything because I realized I was getting even higher framerates by just disabling all that in Ryzen Master and setting a lower vcore. Ryzen Master is underappreciated really. Feels easier than screwing around with BIOS) So his 6 core I can't imagine needing it that much for autoOC more than my 3700x does unless he lost silicon lottery badly. Wraith Prism does a marvelous job at keeping shit cool and I run 4.2ghz in older or 4.325ghz in newer/more demanding gaming and pretty much stay in the low to mid 50s C. He'd have to really overvolt the bejeesus out of it to silicon degrade levels imo to ever require anything better than a Wraith Prism. I'm honestly confused which is speaks to what better, cooler master's design on this thing that looks like it shouldn't do much, or AMD's incredible efficiency.

@JayzBeerz 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do this test with the Scythe Mugen 5? I'm going from a 3700X to a 5900X.

@greenbuds2782 3 жыл бұрын

Did you do a video on cooling with nh-d15 + 5900x?

@willwunsche6940 Жыл бұрын

I am wondering this too but I guess it is a little late

@whitemoses7913 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I just found your channel doing a research for CPU coolers. A nice video indeed. I have a question, would a cooler like cooler master ma410m be suffice for the 5900x CPU? I already have the cooler, using it with R5 3600 and thinking about upgrading to the 5900x. Would a cooler upgrade be necessary? Just gonna run the CPU at stock settings of course. Mostly gaming on the system, occasionally streaming and heaviest workload is possibly handbrake or premiere. By the way, what kind of ambient temperatures were you running the test in? Sorry if you already mentioned it in the video, I might have missed it. Thank you very much.

@whitemoses7913 2 жыл бұрын

Oh okay, you did mention the open test bench and 21c ambient temp. Please give thoughts about the cooler still, thank you.

@EmbodiedRevenant 11 ай бұрын

thank you for this video

@VinniS-bd9fx 13 күн бұрын

Im gonna test it with a noctua u9s chromax black push and pull setup. Hopefully it work

@mowcowbell 2 жыл бұрын

I have a new in the box Wraith Prism cooler that came with a previous gen Ryzen. I plan on using it with my new Ryzen 5 5600x and since it is 'free' and the Corsair AIO costs $125. Thanks for posting this video to show it is safe to use.

@pandemicneetbux2110 2 жыл бұрын

Single fan AIOs are useless, and 240mm rads are ungainly looking and often don't do a lot better than air cooling but with worse reliability and for more money. But I really can't fathom why anybody would be doing watercooling on a 65w chip anyway. This cooler came with 65w chips so there's no reason it wouldn't. The main question here is with the 105w tdp chips like 5800x, 5900x, now 5800X3D, and 5950x which I've never seen anyone do yet (probably because getting a 5950x for the extra cores but not dealing with the heat is dumb since it's a workstation CPU)

@ChadKenova 2 жыл бұрын

It did better than i thought it would because ryzen 5000 runs hotter than 3000. I have two wraith prisms one from a 3900x and the other from a 2700x. I used one on a 3600 and it works great and i think it looks good. Used a 360mm aio on the 3900x and a thermalright macho rev b on the 2700x.

@simplysurfing Жыл бұрын

By using the wrong fan....some of the threads/cores might burn out and the processor will degrade from 12 core to 10 or 9 cores ....so thats a point to keep in mind.

@vinsanitysmet Жыл бұрын

Great vidies

@mr.p6122 2 жыл бұрын

3900x도 되겠저? 게임이랑 가끔씩 편집만하는데 ab350이라 오버도 불가능하니..

@NightOwlGames Жыл бұрын

would i be ok using a wraith prism on a 5800x3d? i play games.

@HuntaKiller91 Жыл бұрын

Notbad for a free cooler I might use this when buying 7700 nonX later Upgrading the cooler once i buy nextgen X3D CPUs (ryzen9000)😝

@Danmandingo 3 жыл бұрын

*Can't even FIND a RYZEN 9 5900X.* *Let alone a 6800XT Asrock Taichi.* *Without paying OUT THE ASS, to a got damn scalper.*

@dio5033 3 жыл бұрын

I had ordered a 6800XT reference and had heard nothing since launch, only found recently they cancelled my order. I'm so sick and tired of not being able to by new hardware

@Acc3l3ratoR Жыл бұрын

Did you test the Prism on the Low or High Fan switch setting?

@jaystol7988 Жыл бұрын

yeah alot of people don't realize there is a high setting. i never had the "runs high temps" problem with my 5800x, and i have mine on high, but even on low, i never had temp problems either.

@jagga228 Жыл бұрын

@@jaystol7988where can i do the high setting, please lmk , i’ve had mine for 3 years and haven’t found the setting yet

@rickss69 10 ай бұрын

It's a physical switch on the body/frame of the cooler. I'm about to pair one with new AM5 7900.@@jagga228

@lexluthor4156 3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Seeming how some people been saying 5800X's running on 85-90 are "fine". The stock cooler does seem that bad.

@1winlock Жыл бұрын

Looks like the Wraith Prism is totally fine. Anything under 90C is fine. These CPU can run at 100C before throttle occurs.

@jagga228 Жыл бұрын

fr? do you think a wraith prism stock cooler with a 5800x3d will be alright? i’m not sure. i think i may just spend the extra money for a better cooler. lmk what you think. also i just ordered the 5800x3d

@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu 8 ай бұрын

How about 5600x? I have a Wraith Prism used with my 3600.

@Sid-Cannon 3 жыл бұрын

I've just ordered a 5900X, was going to get a 10900F but today Scan knocked £60 off the 5900X so I opted for that along with strangely enough an X570 Unify motherboard. I'm reusing my 32GB RAM and my NH-D14 ... Hopefully the D14 will be fine ...

@DannyzReviews 3 жыл бұрын

I've moved my 5900X into my personal system which is cooled by a NH-D15. You'll be fine as long as you don't go crazy with overclocking.

@Sid-Cannon 3 жыл бұрын

@@DannyzReviews My intention is to undervolt using PBO 2 rather than OC ... Apparently when you undervolt it works as expected with lightly threaded loads and games, but under a heavy load it boosts the frequency by 100 to 200 MHz. But lowering the power limits a little will make it undervolt as expected under heavy load. Well that's what I've seen anyway, so I'll just test it out and see.

@gucho1983 Жыл бұрын

Is Wraith prism enough for ryzen 5500 without oc and just for fullhd games?

@jtenorj Жыл бұрын

yes

@HENEX1000 Жыл бұрын

Was this with the wraith on the high or low fan setting?

@jagga228 Жыл бұрын

how can you do a high fan setting? don’t think that’s an option lol

@anubisbahamut Жыл бұрын

@@jagga228 this cooler has a physical switch with a H and L option for high rpm and low rpm the video fails to say which was used as well as if using stock fan speeds or custom profile and if fans ever hit 100%

@rickss69 10 ай бұрын

Amazing the number of people that don't know this...@@anubisbahamut

@naruto16112 Жыл бұрын

I'm using the one that came with my ryzen 5 2600 in my newly acquired ryzen 7 5800x, I May have to buy a new cooler as it reaches 45-47c in idle and 85-90 while gaming :(

@willwunsche6940 Жыл бұрын

Oof that's too bad. I really want to keep mine just on the looks alone I love it. Even with those temperatures it's completely within spec and fine though and you can optimize the case airflow/undervolt slightly. I ended up buying a Noctua D15 and it's amazing but I really miss the looks of my stock prism sitting in the box now. Almost considering/wanting to go back which is crazy. I am using a 5800x 3d now, upgraded to it today from a 3700x.

@PhillipLemmon Жыл бұрын

So this cooler comes with the following cpus... 2700x 3700x 3900x Clearly AMD were on to something.... AND... you can buy them right frome the website too! I LOVE THIS COMPANY!

@silviofernandes69 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think corsair h55 120mm aio can handle the 5900x stock for gaming

@cliffbird5016 2 жыл бұрын

my ryzen 9 3900x came with the wraith prism cooler as standard. the 3900XT doesnt come with a cooler as that recommends liquid cooling. but i found the wraith prism actualy cooled better than liquid coolers. with mine using the wraith prism temps under stress tests were about 50c with the H100I liquid cooler it was 60c. but it also depends on the MB. with the asrock phantom 4 x570 temps were hiting 95c on everything in the rig including the MB no matter what cooler i tried. with the Asus prime B350 plus and the MSI x570 gaming edge temps were only getting to 50C and 60C with the 3900XT. about 5c to 10c hotter using the corsair H100i elite capelix cooler. But again it depends on where u fit the radiator. fitted to the top of the case temps r lower than if u fit it at the bottom or front. thats cause air bubbles in the system rise to the highest point and if thats the Pump on the CPU u will get air bubbles instead of water so it doesnt cool as well.

@AFlyingSwive Жыл бұрын

also the size of the aio will make a difference, 120mm aio is not the same as a 360mm aio

@CptSlow89 2 ай бұрын

So good air cooler and you are good to go.

@Bsc8 3 жыл бұрын

So if i pair a 5800x with a freezer 34 duo and maybe pbo to undervolt a bit will be fine? (Ofc i have to wait to buy It cause 478 euros for that thing are too much) but i'm jumping from an i5 3550 directly to a 5800x in May for my birthday :)

@ranakirti 2 жыл бұрын

woul this data be applicable to a 5800x...?!? Thanks.

@jtenorj Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@gothicmexican 2 жыл бұрын

Can the wraith prism cooler cool a ryzen 9 5900 non x? Its tdp is 65 watts which is low enough to be cooled by awraith prism. Id like your feedback because i have the wraith prism in use for a ryzen 7 3700x which the tech specs are very similar to the ryzen 9 5900. I bought the ryzen 9 5900 on ebay and no cooling solution was included

@patrik8032 Жыл бұрын

how you've managed to cool it,i'm going to buy a 5900 aswell,it was enough the stock cooler?

@gothicmexican Жыл бұрын

@@patrik8032 a wraith prism cooler is working just fine.

@patrik8032 Жыл бұрын

@@gothicmexican you've got it working with an b450 or b550? Or the dell one

@patrik8032 Жыл бұрын

The cpu is placed on a b450/b550 or the one that's comibg from the prebuilt

@gothicmexican Жыл бұрын

@@patrik8032 im using an asus prime b-550mk for my motherboard

@LassoKid7777 3 жыл бұрын

I'm using a be quiet dark rock pro 4 cooler I'm getting 33 idle and 65 - 70 under load , it's rated at 250w tdp on a 5900x

@redclaw72666 3 жыл бұрын

Remember it depends on everyone's ambient temp in their area

@TheBadassOne17 3 жыл бұрын

I had to rma the 1st 5900x cause it would crash a lot. My second one runs hot compared to the 1st one. I have the same cooler and under load I am around 75c-80c and idle is 30-40.

@VaporyAbyss 3 жыл бұрын

Could you test it on the 5600x and 5800x too?

@NovaDoll 3 жыл бұрын

5600x runs cool. Input the stock cooler on my 5800x. It still boosted to 4.6 fine.

@aperson9375 3 жыл бұрын

If the cooler endure the 5900x then 5600 and 5800 are child before 5900x.

@TheLastSoviet22 2 жыл бұрын

I have it on my 5800x and it does fine gaming 1440p and watching KZfaq hangs around 75c

@Randito05 2 жыл бұрын

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@victorhenostroza1871 2 жыл бұрын

I dont think a person who will use this cooler will pair it with that high end motherboard. I think u should use a mid range x570 like asus tuf gaming.

@willwunsche6940 Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I have mine paired with lol nice

@quann06 2 жыл бұрын

Prism cooler runs too hot on my PC. I have to go out and buy a cooler. Sigh.....

@arupbarman2716 3 жыл бұрын

Can I use amd wraith prism on ryzen 5 5600x, please tell me can I do that?

@Wolfpack9able 3 жыл бұрын

Yes you can

@C0d0ps 2 жыл бұрын

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@MWcrazyhorse Жыл бұрын

Can't leave out noise levels when discussing coolers. A ton of channels, if not most, make that mistake. The computer is not going to fry. But sitting next to a wind turbine will annoy the average autistic sperg.

@rolymota8030 7 ай бұрын

I run a 5950x with the wraith prism with no issues whatsoever drop a like if this was helpful

@MakeSh00t 3 жыл бұрын

165 euros vs 30 euros ? . For 1 to 2 fps gain ? We do not need to overclock cpu, auto STOCK OVERCLOCK CURVED SETTS NEGATIVE 200mhz MB SETTINGS X10 callar on wraith Spire for 19 euros i have max 81c... BOOST CLOCK TO 4945mhz single core all cores 4850 to 4900mhz... i have... Who needs watter cooler ? when u need good memory. memory saves ryzen not cooler.. I have 55 c in gaming and max oc in gaming 71 .. where did u get those temps ? What is this cheap case ? OR ? In case i have 8 vents it makes really hot air out of the case... My GPU TEMP IS 100C... so i have better cooling than u with cheap cooler from 3600x ? Omg..