SAW III (2006) | 17 Years Later | Road to SAW X

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Patrick Burow

Patrick Burow

11 ай бұрын

With SAW X right around the corner, hitting theatres this September, I figured it was time I revisit all 9 SAW movies and review them over the coming weeks in anticipation. SAW is very special to me, it has a very special place in my heart, without SAW I probably wouldn't be here talking movies on KZfaq with all of you. So lets continue from where we left off with SAW II (2006), 17 Years Later!
#Saw #SawX #Jigsaw #johnkramer
Dr. Lynn Denlon (Bahar Soomekh) becomes a pawn in the Jigsaw Killer's (Tobin Bell) latest gory game. Kidnapped and taken to an abandoned warehouse, she finds Jigsaw bedridden and dying. Her task is to keep the maniac alive long enough for Jeff (Angus Macfadyen), a fellow victim, to complete his own task. Each is unaware that Jigsaw has much bigger -- and deadlier -- plans in store.
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@LucyTwitch
@LucyTwitch 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me on the channel! I had an absolute blast recording!
@trailer.prince
@trailer.prince 10 ай бұрын
you were sweet!
@erawa2740
@erawa2740 11 ай бұрын
Saw III is by far my favorite film of the franchise. It's the most "raw", emotional, powerful, memorable and profound one in my opinion. Saw III is the entry of the franchise that has the most to offer. Not only is it a great Horror movie, but also a great Tragedy, which provokes an extraordinary catharsis. I'm genuinely impressed by what this movie manages to do. Sure, it's not particularly "subtle", but extremely effective. It's probably the most brutal film of the franchise, but also the most human one, paradoxically (which is a remarkable achievement). The term "torture porn" is inadequate to describe it, as its graphic violence is justified by the story, and echoes the mental violence the characters go through (the vengeful father, the depressed and apathetic doctor, the bedridden and dying "mastermind", the confused and psychotic "apprentice", etc...). The movie is multi-layered and adresses existential themes (grief, obsession, physical and psychological pain, affective dependency, the possibility of forgiveness, etc.) in an incredibly intense and "visceral" way (the franchise is known for showing a great interest in the human viscera 😄). The ending is emotionally devastating and culminates in multiple "mind-blowing" (pun intended 🤯😉 ) plot-twists. It would have been ok for me if the franchise ended with Saw III, as it offers the perfect conclusion to the story which began with the first Saw. The Original Saw Trilogy is particularly solid. But I'm super hyped for Saw X though!
@jordanjacksonshouseofhorrors
@jordanjacksonshouseofhorrors 11 ай бұрын
You expressed how I feel about this film better than I ever could 🤌
@erawa2740
@erawa2740 11 ай бұрын
@@jordanjacksonshouseofhorrors Thank you, I'm glad to read this :)
@ajsstuff7025
@ajsstuff7025 11 ай бұрын
Always a good morning when there’s a new Pat video. I weirdly love Saw III, it has a place in my heart as one of my favorite Saw movies.
@clairepreedy1012
@clairepreedy1012 11 ай бұрын
this has made my day, seeing patrick talk about saw is the highlight of my days‼️‼️
@jaycasado5029
@jaycasado5029 11 ай бұрын
The Rack was one of the very few traps in the Saw franchise that truly made me wince and look away . Brutal 😭😭😭
@Nicole4771
@Nicole4771 11 ай бұрын
Me too. the man in the traps acting was so good.
@aplive58
@aplive58 11 ай бұрын
Honestly found the Classroom Trap in the same movie to be the hardest to sit through. Seeing the chain in the jaw and the Achilles heel. Uncanny amounts of BS.
@alessandrajackson3768
@alessandrajackson3768 10 ай бұрын
The rack, the reverse bear trap (final chapter), the wax or sever your spine, and the hair scalping one hurt my stomach!!!!
@davonmanigault2451
@davonmanigault2451 9 ай бұрын
They think saw 3 wasn't overly gore, I would beg to differ. Maybe not as much screen time on the gore like 3D, but hearing the lady scream till she died with the freezing trap was unsettling. The pig vat was nasty if you think about too much but least violent, and the rack was awful not just for the sounds of screaming, begging, and bone cracking, but the shot of the leg actually breaking was up there. Then, the shot of the head being continuous twisted even after it reached 180° and you hearing the bones crunching with the gears still turning was brutal af. The man was dead and the machine kept going. And the shot of Lynn's blown off head being the final shot just capped it off. Didn't even have to mention the other 3, this movie was pretty torturous.
@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC 11 ай бұрын
I totally get why some people don't like SAW III, and it is *wayyy* longer than it should be. But the Lyn Denlan/Jigsaw plotline is really good - the idea of just having to keep someone alive, knowing that they're a terrible person, knowing they're dying. Unrelated, but gonna recommend the movie American Mary.
@parsatheengineer
@parsatheengineer 11 ай бұрын
The Rack is my absolute favourite trap. It's so brutal. Saw III is a good film overall.
@omaridaniels8427
@omaridaniels8427 11 ай бұрын
Saw III holds a special place for me. It was the first film in the franchise that I saw in theaters- and would continue doing so each weekend a new film released- I enjoyed the exploration of Amanda and John's working relationship, I liked the moral dilemmas that Jeff faced in each game, the flashback setup to the bathroom game was great, and I really enjoyed seeing Eric Matthews right at the start when, not long before the film's premiere, Donnie Wahlberg had said he'd 'left' the franchise over 'creative differences.' What a way to surprise you if you thought that Eric actually might not show up!
@calumsanderson6741
@calumsanderson6741 10 ай бұрын
Patrick vaping during the video and talking about a trap then immediately distracted by the doggo, classic
@missingno_LLC
@missingno_LLC 11 ай бұрын
Only been into your channel for 3 months. Love your stuff
@SamuelMcAlpin-ft3uu
@SamuelMcAlpin-ft3uu 11 ай бұрын
Saw III is perhaps the one film in the franchise that my feelings are the most mixed towards. The acting (mainly among the core characters) is up there with Saw II as some of the best in the franchise, everything going on in the sickbay between John, Lynn and Amanda is super compelling, and I love the concept behind Jeff’s trial and the greater psychological element the Pig Vat in particular takes on. As much as it pains me, though, I can never quite shake my feeling of “meh” whenever I watch it. For every memorable trap there’s another one I find boring or a waste of an interesting concept, and while this perhaps makes him more human than anyone else in the franchise, Jeff is such a thoroughly frustrating protagonist it’s become difficult for me to sit through the movie knowing the decisions he makes throughout and at the end. I want to love Saw III, because there’s truly so much to love about it, but there’s also too much holding it back for me to ever consider it to be within my personal Top 3 (or maybe even Top 5) Saw movies.
@CaraLeeRose
@CaraLeeRose 11 ай бұрын
I believe the head section of the rack was done by creating a prosthetic of the back of the actor’s head on his face! So he’s facing forward the whole time, the twisted neck and hair by the end are all fake. Super cool! Awesome video! 😊❤️
@AJsFigures
@AJsFigures 11 ай бұрын
The nudity in the freezer room doesnt feel pervy to me, to me it is important to show that she has no protection from the elements
@erawa2740
@erawa2740 11 ай бұрын
It never felt pervy to me either. The witness being absolutely naked in this trap doesn't "sexualize" her; more than anything, it adds to the terror of the situation she's in and makes us viewers feel more empathy towards her. I actually think that the first trap in Saw 3D (with the love triangle) sends much more "pervy" (and questionable) vibes (with the woman on the top wearing a specific pink outfit and the contraption enhancing her breasts).
@davidfairweather3301
@davidfairweather3301 10 ай бұрын
I think it was more perplexing because despite the gore and blood in the Saw movies, nudity is something that never included before or after. Kinda the same with the swearing. Amanda is constantly swearing and saying “cunt”, and her character shift did feel pretty big
@nayru33
@nayru33 11 ай бұрын
Great video again on the run up to Saw X 💛 Love the idea of Joyce swapping with Bobby going through the traps, look forward to more discussion on how Saw 3D could have been made much better
@Gioeli76
@Gioeli76 11 ай бұрын
So, I can actually explain the Judges bullet wound! The reason the wounds are "seemingly" on the wrong is because they are the exit wounds. The exit wounds are always far larger than entry wounds. Entry wounds, especially from small buckshot or birds hot are very small and sometimes unnoticeable, but the exit wounds are always way more visible due. Watch videos on ballistic gel and it will make more sense.
@AmataRayne2492
@AmataRayne2492 11 ай бұрын
Nice video, Lucy and Patrick! Love it! I like III. And, it's got a lot of replayability for me because of the interactions with the characters. What struck me this time is how John is super hypocritical with Jeff and Jeff's test. He's forcibly trying to make Jeff move on from his son's death, when John hasn't done so in the slightest. Gideon's death overhangs the entire franchise, and was the first push towards John becoming Jigsaw. CLEARLY, in multiple parts of the series, John has not come to peace with Gideon's death. Up until his death, still hasn't dealt with it, or coped with it in many negative ways. And here he is, trying to manipulate Jeff and force Jeff to move on. It's... Hypocritical, and horrible, and sad. Just sad. * Also, my favorite part of this whole video was Patrick going, "...this is going to stink, this is disgusting, I have guts up... **Gasps** DOGGIE! HELLO, PUPPY!!!" 🤣
@ConstanceVNs
@ConstanceVNs 11 ай бұрын
My friend, your every video is special
@Generic_Drummer
@Generic_Drummer 11 ай бұрын
I’m beyond stoked for this entire series. I’m proud of the work you’re doing for the Saw fandom.
@lultharion
@lultharion 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the redemptive arch for Jeff completely Patrick, it's a shame that they didn't consult someone like you for when writing that part in Saw 3, thanks for the review :)
@thomaskyle4251
@thomaskyle4251 11 ай бұрын
You 2 would make a cute couple
@NightmereCosplay
@NightmereCosplay 11 ай бұрын
EYOOO Literally just woke up to a new Pat vid, hell yeah
@PatrickBurow
@PatrickBurow 11 ай бұрын
Hell to the yeah
@allaninaet2835
@allaninaet2835 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to remind people that canonically, the trap John put Cecil in was 28 years ago. I only know this because I was born in the year of the pig that John planned for his son. Also I love to think that John chose the year of the pig for a double meaning. People born under the year of the pig are known to be loyal to family and passionate towards others, with John's background of being an engineer who wanted to help people before Cecil had his "accident" with Jill, it could be possible that he was going to have their son want to help people as well with a kind and caring nature.
@igormmx
@igormmx 11 ай бұрын
Maggots were not in the pig soup, they put maggots on for the pig reveal shots, as they were rolled in.
@WHATPISSESMEOFFFF
@WHATPISSESMEOFFFF 11 ай бұрын
SAW III is by far if not the best of the series
@AJsFigures
@AJsFigures 11 ай бұрын
I sense a fellow Scot ❤
@LucyTwitch
@LucyTwitch 11 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Just outside of Glasgow :D
@AJsFigures
@AJsFigures 11 ай бұрын
@@LucyTwitch that's so cool 😀 I am over by Dundee!
@CamGold
@CamGold 11 ай бұрын
I love the music for the pig vat trap
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly 11 ай бұрын
He should have put his coat on his face for the freezer burn on his cheek he got the key 🔑 burnt his cheek and the ice gurl still died….
@FornicatorTVonYT
@FornicatorTVonYT 11 ай бұрын
This is how I would rank the franchise. I bought the collection and re-watched most of the series. Saw Saw 2 Saw 6 Saw 3 Saw 5 Saw 4 Chris Rock Spiral Jigsaw Saw 3D
@jaxstuff898
@jaxstuff898 11 ай бұрын
Well done as always, I love your enthusiasm (which I share) over the SAW movies. Agree didn't like the needless nudity of the ice room, not a prude, just seemed a 'cash grab' lol. The emotional arc of the characters is so well done, and I still say Amanda should have carried on (if she played by the rules...)
@Kyle_MJ
@Kyle_MJ 11 ай бұрын
I can’t watch The Rack it’s too brutal. Also, I may be in the minority, but I love SAW 5. Does anyone else agree?
@Gioeli76
@Gioeli76 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, Saw 5 is my favorite! I just love everything with Strahm and Hoffman. I love how it develops Hoffmans character as well as his relationship with Jigsaw. It makes him almost sympathetic. I even love the traps, and how it's not the boring style started in Saw 3 where it's one person navigating from trap to trap helping someone who is in said trap. We got that in Saw 3, Saw 4, Saw 6, and Saw 7.
@chrisbaker5568
@chrisbaker5568 11 ай бұрын
I was also one of those that thought everyone hated Saw 3 and I was the only one that has Saw 3 in my top 3 lol
@senseixsplinter
@senseixsplinter 11 ай бұрын
The rack the actor is kneeling, his head is a free motion and to do the part where they spun his head around they made a latex mask that looked like the back of his head
@KingdomHeart556
@KingdomHeart556 11 ай бұрын
I find it hard to believe they would make that continuity error about which leg was in the shackle just because in this very movie John specifically said “put his left leg in the shackle” yet when he is shown it’s on the right leg I don’t believe that’s a legitimate error.
@LxstinNeverland
@LxstinNeverland 11 ай бұрын
So fun fact: I had actually watched the Saw movies out of order growing up. I watched Saw, Saw 2 and then 4 and 5, and 6. Even 7. But Saw 3 was one I hadn't watched and then it came on one night, so I finally watched it. And it's funny cause for a few years the only part I remembered about it was the pig guts. It's what I paired the movie with. Saw 3 was just this massive mystery to me. Then I fknally bought the movies and I've binged them so many times. 🤣 time to binge them before Saw X.
@averywiese6164
@averywiese6164 11 ай бұрын
I don’t remember if it was this movie or another, but the bathroom set from Scary Movie 4 was actually used as the Saw bathroom in one of the sequels.
@darthmeticulous6901
@darthmeticulous6901 11 ай бұрын
The thing with the Freezer Room is originally Danica was going to be clothed. But, the worry was that as she was sprayed with the cold water, the clothing would stick and “become too sexual,” so it was changed to how we know it today.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 9 ай бұрын
That....makes no sense lol
@darthmeticulous6901
@darthmeticulous6901 9 ай бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 What I mean is… originally the script had her in the freezer with a shirt and panties on. The worry then became that as the cold water sprayed, it would stick and become “too sexual,” in turn it was changed to what we see on screen.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 9 ай бұрын
@@darthmeticulous6901 saying it again won't make it sound better, the filmmakers were weird in the thought process, as if just cuz she's nude or not, it would distract from the situation of the tone of the movie....why would she be sexualized that much either way? That makes no sense on their part
@darthmeticulous6901
@darthmeticulous6901 9 ай бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 I just thought I wasn’t specific enough originally. I agree that it was silly, but then again, the MPAA is weird. Remember, several films in the series had to be submitted and edited down multiple times before the MPAA would give them R ratings. That may have played a role as well. Nonetheless, I apologize if I came off as annoying previously.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 9 ай бұрын
@@darthmeticulous6901 you're fine, it's the process of the filmmaking that made me confused, like this series is 80% gore with hardcore cussing and nudity is what draws the line for them? Just wow
@alessandroguariento3363
@alessandroguariento3363 10 ай бұрын
Instead of smashing his foot, Detective Matthews could have scraped his malleolus and heel against a rough floor surface in order to free himself from the shackle and still be able to walk. What do you guys think?
@cookiewoman8959
@cookiewoman8959 9 ай бұрын
I agree about Jeff to an extent but it really wouldn't of mattered cause his character arc would of been for nothing because he chooses revenge instead of forgiveness anyways when he kills jigsaw.
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly 11 ай бұрын
Saw 3 was awesome 1-4 I really like
@casper5379
@casper5379 11 ай бұрын
I like Saw 2
@TKize777
@TKize777 11 ай бұрын
It is so a popular opinion that Saw 3 is best.
@trailer.prince
@trailer.prince 10 ай бұрын
jigsaw is human he's not going to be perfect he's no super being
@Pookie2112
@Pookie2112 11 ай бұрын
I think the maggots were for close up shots on the foam pigs. Should watch the making of saw 3 if you haven't
@Cobratruth
@Cobratruth 11 ай бұрын
Started with Saw III?😭 that probably killed the twist for her from Saw 1
@DroneQuadcopter
@DroneQuadcopter 11 ай бұрын
lets go, my less favourite maybe least favourite saw movie.... but it is still good.
@remixsolo
@remixsolo 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the nudity in Saw 3 was really strange because she's gonna die regardless if she's wearing clothes or not. Even if there were dudes in traps that were stripped down, they still got to keep their underwear on.
@Everything_E117
@Everything_E117 11 ай бұрын
I watched saw in the order like the original star wars, messed my girlfriend all up lol star from 4 -3d then 1-3 and the spin off joints after its a cool experience
@Mashita_Kills77
@Mashita_Kills77 11 ай бұрын
The Saw franchise is SoOo GOOD!! SUCH A TREAT FOR GORE HOUNDS EVERYWHERE!!✨✨✨Especially SAW III, THAT'S WHERE MY LOVE COSTAS MANDYLOR BEGAN!!💙💙💙 *MWHAHA* evil laugh💓😈
@dreadmonkey6811
@dreadmonkey6811 11 ай бұрын
Saw 3 is my absolute favorite..the rack was the first trap to absolutely make me cringe. By that time I've already broken my wrist and foot..I was pretty horrified, ngl.
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly 11 ай бұрын
Reddit users ❤ We call him Slow ass Jeff 😂I seen it just once and in movies . He did not seem slow to me 😂
@DevareayWilliams
@DevareayWilliams 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoy Saw III, it’s just they Jeff makes it so frustrating because of his lack of urgency to do anything. But that also makes it really funny. Imagine finding out you’re in an elaborate jigsaw trap, but your reaction the whole time is basically, “whatever, I’ll move as slow as I possibly can.” 😂
@ladymeow1226
@ladymeow1226 11 ай бұрын
As a vegan the pig corpse trap is extra terrible!
@spinorama29
@spinorama29 11 ай бұрын
What’s her channel?
@PatrickBurow
@PatrickBurow 11 ай бұрын
She doesn’t have a channel but streams on twitch. Username is Lucy
@lachlainegordon806
@lachlainegordon806 11 ай бұрын
I love Saw III so much. Not for any movie reasons like plot or whatever. It’s that one line where Amanda Young says “Are you gonna behave?”. Bruh when I first saw that my heart went like:❤️🌈🥺. Amanda Young was my first real gay crush and she is ICONIC!
@rickmartinez2804
@rickmartinez2804 11 ай бұрын
I never understood the point of having Jeff waking up in a box hoisted high up on a forklift. He could have easily have broken several bones, or even killed if he landed wrong. This never made sense to me. Having the box (or crate, if you prefer) just sitting on the floor would have worked better
@user-tt9wg7dn9g
@user-tt9wg7dn9g 11 ай бұрын
and i now donnie wahberg he is my friend
@alessandrajackson3768
@alessandrajackson3768 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad someone else agrees with the unnecessary aspects of nudity in most horror movies! Especially when you look at the pornographer to horror movie pipeline….it feels that there is a lot of sexual violence without traditional sexual violence.
@alessandrajackson3768
@alessandrajackson3768 10 ай бұрын
Especially when often (definitely not in the SAW series) horror movies often have female nudity and far more brutal kills where the guys often stay clothed and have much quicker deaths.
@Exhibitiononly
@Exhibitiononly 11 ай бұрын
What’s your Reddit handle?
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly 11 ай бұрын
Xavier wasn’t the 1 asking about the obi I believe there was a black guy there who was killed off asked about what’s a obi. Unless he Xavier but I thought he’s the hott spanish guy who tosses Amanda in the pit for h needles
@ashtonluck
@ashtonluck 11 ай бұрын
Saw 3 was the last one I really enjoyed. Saw 6 was ok but 4,5 and 3-D I don't like. Haven't seen Jigsaw or Spiral cause 3-D just really disappointed me. Maybe I'll check them out since X looks interesting
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly 11 ай бұрын
I had to go back n read all the plots they r all good but 1-4 r good 5/6/7 r ok w 7 bring least wait I mean 8 I think saw 7 was needed but 8 never should csnt bsck
@AcidicGumdrops
@AcidicGumdrops 11 ай бұрын
Major same re: the freezer trap, Patrick. That one always made me really uncomfortable due to the nudity. It just feels like sexualizing female suffering, which is disgusting. Also, major bummer to find out that they used real maggots in the pig vat trap. That’s animal cruelty :( and extremely gross for the actor 😩😩😩
@alm5266
@alm5266 11 ай бұрын
Saw III comes across as the darkest and most mean-spirited of the series....and Jeff. Stupid, stupid Jeff!
@JimeLello
@JimeLello 11 ай бұрын
Jeff ruins the whole movie. 💯 agree on how to fix the character/story
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly 11 ай бұрын
The freezer one does freak me out that she was naked I forgot she was nude completely but having clothes ? Even a thin bra and short like underwear shorts would make it ok the fact she was naked was harder
@FornicatorTVonYT
@FornicatorTVonYT 11 ай бұрын
As I'm watching this 3D was that bad. I had to stop watching that movie yesterday.
@GabeR115
@GabeR115 11 ай бұрын
I have the most mixed feelings towards saw 3. I actually like the flashbacks/soap opera of saw. It makes you think and piece things together instead of just consuming and moving on with your day. However, I hate how this movie was, in my opinion, the start of the movies just becoming mean. Detective Carrie had no chance and was just brutally murdered, as was the freezer woman, as was the drunk driver in the rack. The movie is so mean, the judge had to die regardless of surviving his unfair trap and poor Lynn Denlon gets brutalized after winning her game. I understand it solidifies John as the massive hypocrite that he is but it’s just so dim and miserable. Still one of the better movies despite all of it
@AlexOvTheAbyss
@AlexOvTheAbyss 11 ай бұрын
Saw III is pretty low on my list. May not be at the bottom because of Saw 3D, but it's in the bottom two. Part of that is due to Jeff (obviously), but the other part is that it starts the trend of hypocrisy. John would always go on about "the will to live", but that was thrown out the window here. All the people in traps had to rely on Jeff to save them. Well, guess that is unless this movie was made to show how big of a hypocrite John was, and given all the support he gets throughout the series, I don't see that being the case. Oh and how the hell does Amanda's hair grow that long in just 6 months!? That has always bugged me.
@__coop__
@__coop__ 11 ай бұрын
that's the whole point of 3 though, to show how bullshit John's philosophy is and that his tests/games literally don't work.
@jonathanharris5101
@jonathanharris5101 10 ай бұрын
Saw 3 there’s too much going on. And it doesn’t help that that’s the film 4 & 5 go back to :/
@mrpuddingpop1
@mrpuddingpop1 10 ай бұрын
anyone who wishes away the soap oprea elements of saw has a problem with the fandom
@karinakassim
@karinakassim 11 ай бұрын
Jeff is so annoying in this movie. Oh and Amanda is just 🤮.
@user-tt9wg7dn9g
@user-tt9wg7dn9g 11 ай бұрын
i can t pick saw 2 and saw 3 and saw 4 and saw 5 and saw 6 and saw 7 r my favorites but saw 8 and saw 9 is a no no for me i did not like i hop saw 10 is good
@TheHierophantGreen
@TheHierophantGreen 11 ай бұрын
I’ll be first to say I don’t like saw 3 in fact it’s my second least favorite. Jeff as one of main protagonists is just annoying to watch, seeing how slow he is to react. Sure it has The rack trap which is great, and lyn could’ve made this movie better if she were the only protagonist but it runs too long, and like I said it’s mostly Jeff’s fault this is hard to watch.
@ladymeow1226
@ladymeow1226 11 ай бұрын
I adore Saw3. Perhaps cuz there's a lot of Amanda. I relate 2her much, n love the unfortunate unraveling of her psyche. As a vegan/LGBTQ+ activist, i ve seen enough 2have a hatred of humans. I get it, id love a way 2 improve people. But im not cool w/the targeting of drug users. Its a complicated thing that takes time. I gradualy got off opioids myself .Tossing me in a trap would have me more fucked up, pushing me 2use even more! The people in Saw x deserve a trap it seems.
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