I always found five slightly forgettable not boring but I just forgot what happened in the movie, but after re-watching it recently I found it quite good and actually really enjoyed the vast back story it provides. Six will always be my favourite saw movie, great story, great traps and a consistent pace.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but V is definitely my favourite of the series! I love how it feels like a thriller, with Hoffman and Strahm's story lines running parallel until they inevitably meet. I love both characters, and I truly wish we had gotten more of their dynamic/cat-and-mouse game!

Saw V has always been my favorite! I'm so glad you've come around and like it more now. You mentioned there wasn't really any difference between the "unrated versions" and the "theatrical versions", well there is also a "Directors Cut" edition and there was at least one new scene that I wish they kept in all versions and that was Seth's death. Basically, in his final breath, he notices Hoffman watching him and says to him "I did what I was supposed to". Something about that to me was so haunting and sad, and I feel it added to why Hoffman still seemed bothered by killing him, like it haunted him.

Anyone else so glad saw became a franchise?

I feel like David Hackl is one of the most underrated names when it comes to Saw. He's been with the series since Saw 2 and he's really one of the key people responsible for helping develop the trademark design and aesthetic of the Saw franchise. I place him up there with Bousman, Wan, Whannell, Greutert, etc. as one of the people who made Saw as memorable and great as it was.

love your saw content :))

Not many days left until Saw X! Hype is real!

😂😂 love that.."had to rewatch this several times to make sure I wasn't high on something" good entry into franchise I thought too!

I snuck into Saw IV and Saw V at 16 and 17 by buying a different ticket, I was so scared of getting caught but I'm so glad I did it!

I think that Saw V is better than Saw IV. Its story and style are more "focused" and it has a more natural flow. Though it's not an incredible plot-twist, the fact that the players were supposed to help each other to survive and win the game together is a cool and refreshing aspect. The opening scene is super memorable and effective: The Pendulum Trap is probably one of the best in the Saw franchise.

Look SAW V is ridiculous, but I can’t help but love it. The dynamic between Strahm and Hoffman is amazing and the final scene is so awesome

11:13 Patrick flexing his SAW DVD’s 😂😂

Thank you, Patrick, for these awesome Road to Saw X videos. I really enjoy hearing you discuss the movies, and to hear someone be passionate about the series. Keep making badass content.

I’m actually obsessed with you, loving this series. Can’t wait to see saw X in theatres. You’ve got me so excited!!

Great content as always my friend! Keep up the great work!

I love this retrospective so much. Best part of my week if I am being honest.

Totally with you on the fact that the traps in V are slower and give people time. It's something that I think kinda got lost along the way with this series. A big part of why the first movie works is that we get to spend a decent amount of time in the scenario, but if it's just a few minutes, there's just not as much of a psychological impact. Like, imagine the Pound of Flesh trap in Saw VI if they'd had a full hour to do it.

Actually everyone in the Fatal Five trap that died, died almost instantly. Decapitation, blowed up, stabbed in the neck. The only ones who actually suffered were the two survivors.

I'm so ready for Saw X. It's gonna be great 💯

Good video I enjoyed this, I would say more but you've nailed a lot of this.

Loving this series!

Lions gate, let Patrick have his dream of being a scream king!

Oh wow I was watching saw videos when this popped up amazing timing

Totally love this

I think the journalist's name was Charles? Could be wrong. Great video as always, man

I like to refer to Saw 5-7 as the Hoffman Saga

Long live the Hoffmanator! 😂

Saw V is my personal favorite Saw film. There’s lots of reasons… 1) Hoffman is my favorite character, and this one is his origin story. Seeing how he is fit right into the earlier films might seem weird, but yet… it still works since a lot was left out. 2) The chess match between Hoffman and Strahm is always a blast to watch. Strahm being the badass that made history by being the first to beat an unwinnable trap (which is one of my favorite traps in the series primarily for how Strahm beat it), and Hoffman being a badass in showing his own cunning and using it to outsmart Strahm at the end. This forshadows the more impressive feats he would pull off in later films. 3) The main game is both similiar to Saw 2’s game, yet different. The idea that every trap was designed so they all could easily have lived and to do so required them to work together was refreshing, felt different enough to not feel like it was copying Saw 2. Also, the victims, while selfish, did actually try thinking before acting in the traps, unlike with most of the main games. 4) This was the one that made Jill’s role mysterious, it really called into question what side she was on, especially after Saw 4’s events. 5) John Kramer’s story continues to be expanded and he has a really good line that Hoffman pays off when he outsmarts Strahm, “If you’re good at anticipating the human mind, it leaves nothing to chance.” 6) All of the previous reasons to me make this one of the most rewatchable films of the series. In fact, toning down the gore (other than the Pendulum Trap, the rest of the traps aren’t as graphic) after Saws 3 and 4 helps it act like a breather episode (on top of slowing the overall story a bit to catch up on the backstory) before the next two films up the brutality by quite a bit. So yeah, I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but for my tastes, this one takes the cake. P. S. Patrick, the journalist guy is named Charles. Mallick literally reveals his name after he and Brit figure out that all the traps could have been beaten so they’d all survive.

Great content I love it

This may be odd, but i love the scream of the actor who cuts her arm off in opening. It hits me deep inside, so real n profound!

Unpopular Opinion: Saw V has one of the best trap plots in the series! Everyone in it was a selfish person, but not evil enough that you didn’t want to see them survive it! The twist at the end is what solidified it for me, they were all supposed to survive and only suffer a little! That twist alone was what solidified Saw V for me as a great horror sequel! I don’t enjoy the cop plot as much as I did in Saw, Saw 4, and Spiral. It feels a little ridiculous, but the trap plot alone solidified it for me.

Strahm talking to himself is a Shakespearean tool in filmmaking. When a character is on stage alone they will talk to themselves so the audience knows what the hell is going on. In Saw V, he probably isn't really speaking out loud, he may be acting out his thoughts for the benefit of the audience. I don't think it's over the top. He's working alone and has nobody else to discuss things with. If he doesn't talk to himself in those scenes, we don't get those scenes and it doesn't lay out the story for the audience.

I remember watching this during AIT/tech training after it came out. Good times

Love your shirt dude 😍

I think the reason the pendulm trap looked so good was because it was mostly a practical effect instead of CGI. It may be just a reskined magic trick, but it works soooo well.

for some reason saw 5 has always been my weird favorite on my list. of course I love 1,2 6 and i guess story wise 3.. 5 was always my favorite over 4 and 7.. i even like it more than jigsaw and spiral.

Yes 🔥

"Your body will tell you to do one thing, but I implore you to do the opposite" my body tells me to listen to you, Jigsaw, since I know how you work. I'm getting mixed messages here.

I can see you as a character that says "time to start the game, it's go time." on a talkie. I mean Hoffman would need help because Amanda's dead and we have no clue if Logan knows what happened to Jill by Hoffman's hand.

Also escape room closing walls scene too reminds me of Saw 5

Petition for Patrick to be in the next Saw movie 🙌

What if Patrick actually is in Saw X and he’s not telling us?

Oh fuck yeah! Love Ken and Ashley, can’t wait for next episode! Loving this whole series man!

I always sorta liked how the primary trap gauntlet in this did a slight spin from "survival of the fittest" to (poorly) making everyone have to work along each other without realizing they had to Made the end really interesting but maaaaan was the ball spiked on this one. Usually John likes his riddles but at least you can sorta discern what he means if you listen enough In this he didnt really do that. Brings it down a bit for me but overall, i didnt mind it too much

I've slightly come around on Saw V over the years from a production standpoint. Hackl takes his time with the pacing and direction compared to Bousman's quicker direction of Saw II-IV (much as I enjoy III). Plus, Hoffman's first meeting with Jigsaw was a great face-off. Like you said, Saw V still doesn't rank high for me, but there are major elements I enjoy.

1st, keep up the quality videos

As much as it was such a brutal and I dare say fun way to end the chase between Hoffman and Strahm, having him die in the Glass Coffin felt incredibly frustrating because he survived the Water Cube. Granted it was by chance he had a pen on him but to then act on impulse after seeing how far impulse gets you in games and not figure out how to best proceed was just a kick in gut.

I don’t know if this is public knowlage, but the lady that says, “do you mind” to Hoffman on the lift actually got tested, she was in the survivors group in 3d

They did Megan bogus wish she would of made it through 😂😢

The whole "unrated edition" stuff is just American jargon. In the U.S. unlike other countries, the movie rating system is voluntary. The only reason most movies get certified, is because theater chains only carry certain content. The "unrated" version is literally just an extended version, that they just didnt bother sending in for re-rating because it was already on home release. Its used for marketing, not content warning

Saw is my all time favorite franchise. However, my one gripe is regarding the house fire…??? (granted, I’d never picked up on Hoffman calling out Amanda at the start of saw 4. My bad).

I started at 17 in 2004 til now iv seen all but spiral I will see 1 before the saw X many I seen just once at the movies I’m chicken

I honestly was always upset about Strahm’s death in 5,, I would’ve loved to have seen him in 6. It felt like such a punch to the gut when he died after surviving the water cube trap. I think he should’ve made it to at least 1 more movie, maybe kill him off in 6 in the same way Then again he’s one of my favourite characters, maybe that’s why I’m still salty 😂 But I adore this franchise!! I adore this fandom and hearing other people’s opinions on the movies / characters

how old are you pat?

As long u have ticket

I think Megan good was the only well known actress in these movies

Finally someone else actually likes "likes" this movie... I've really like this one ever since it came out, while most go out and call it one of the worst of the franchise...

Feels like a filler movie if that’s possible lol. I always enjoyed it more than saw 4 but not as much as the others .

imo, Saw 4 < Saw 5 < Saw 3

Dear Patrick Burrow. I think Mateo dies. Because in the pictures for the brain surgery trap in Midsummer fest. You only get to see one piece of brain and in the trailer you can see the the meter for the key only goes up a little bit. That’s how I feel like mateo is going to die In saw x.

Love saw 5, but I hate the ending. Strahm should’ve lived, the way they killed him off was kinda crappy

I've grown to appreciate Saw V a lot more over the years as well, though it's not up there with I, II, and VI. It's somewhere in the middle. The concept of tests involving teamwork that get more grueling the more casualties there are was really good, just not executed very well. The characters were really stupid for not working together from the start, especially that foureyed dumbass Charles who kept antagonizing everyone with shit he knew about them and making himself out to be suspicious. Like, really? You're life and the lives of others are at stake and you think being a dick is going to help your situation? He wears glasses for fuck's sake, he should have been smarter than this. The Pints of Sacrifice trap was brutal, up there with The Rack and Silence Circle as tests that go right through me. So yeah, Saw V was fairly decent.

Is there any chance the 2 survivors at the end of the fatal 5 are the 2 with dr Gordon at the end of 3d? I just thought of this now and can’t remember what happens to the two after wards

This was the first saw movie I watched, saw it during a sleepover at a friends house as a kid, and I loved it when I watched it. After going back and watching the whole series however it's definitely become one of my least favorites. It's honestly just kinda boring compared to other entries.

I can’t get over Strom reading the script to us. It is soo horribly written and the glass jar trap was so obvious it just took the fun out of it. This and 3D are my least favorite by far.

I know things are different in Australia, but how are they both unrated AND rated at the same time? Unrated in America means that. There is no G, PG, M or R. Just unrated.

The pint of blood would be worse than u'd reaize for the rich kid. Opioids somehow thin your blood n slow your cloting ive been told. I know it 2b true 2 some capacity. So the rich boy is all the more lucky 2 survive!

Propably the most forgettable saw movie together with IV

I thought 5 was just so bad, fatal five is boring, acting it atrocious

The plot of the Fatal Five in my opinion was the laziest, absolute worst writing in the whole series. The thin explanation at the end as to why they were all in it was terrible and that "twist" if you even want to call it that, was hamfisted in at the end to justify the game. NONE, count them, NONE of the characters' names in that game were ever revealed in the movie, so why were we as the audience supposed to care about them at all? This is the 2nd worst movie in my opinion as a result of this (also this movie feels like it existed just to kill Strahm off)