I love how David's take is always non-toxic and not trying to run down anyone or their work..so refreshing

I would almost argue that Ryan called George in BECAUSE of the big shift in tone the show is about to take. Like you said - this is about to become a war show, lots of big battles, especially on dragonback. It would be very easy to drop the ball here. If I was the showrunner and had an open communication with George the way Ryan does, I'd call him in too. I'd want to get it right.

Glad to see some optimism and actual analysis about this news

Glad to see not everyone is hopelessly pessimistic about every update 😅

I'm loving the LML and Grey waste Tim collabs

George wanting to write scripts is a good thing. He doesn't want to work on shit, if he's writing it's because he likes it, not to right some perceived wrongs.

Thanks for spreading some positivity around, the fandom can be quite toxic in social media and sometimes all the negativity can be a bit overwhelming. All this "they're gonna ruin the show" "they're ruining the characters", and whenever there's news about George getting involved: "we are never getting the books", "george is gonna die soon anyway" and it just makes me sad. As an adhd-autistic person I tend to suck in other people's moods and feelings like a sponge so it's nice to suck in some positive vibes from this community for a change haha

I still have to give major credit to the show for doing Vizzy T considerably better than his book counterpart, and also Laenor Velaryon :)

How many horrific battles do we need to see? All of them 😊

8 episodes? Green lit for season 3? Those are going to be some amazing 8 cinematic episodes.

I believe in one of George's interviews he said he wrote Fire & Blood in 6 months and it just flowed out. His editor was surprised and he said it was because he was inspired and had a vision. I can't wait for what comes next. I trust Ryan, I trust George. I am Fire & Blood. ❤😊

really excited to have George more involved with the show!

I think you distilled GRRM writing style really well! ❤

I wish we were getting the usual 10 episodes, but I get theyre shortening it because of HBO is doing budget cuts. But season 3 should be 10 episodes because we need to have Rhaenyra as the half year queen, Aemond vs Daemon, Daerons death and Battle of the Gullet if it's not in season 2.

I seriously hope there are 2 Tumbletons.

Condal confirmed 5 new drags in S2. HBO HotD Dragon Index indicates 5 dragons without images. Dreamfyre, Sunfyre, Tyraxes, Silverwing, & Moondancer. No Cannibal, Grey Ghost, Sheepstealer/Nettles, Tessarion/Daeron, etc.? A Sowing without Sheepstealer/Nettles & the wild drags is very anti-climatic.

Four seasons sounds great and then a Aegon conquest film then onto the TV series is A masterstroke by HBO Warner Bros fingers crossed it happened 3 to 4 years

I despise the unnecessary hate Ryan Condal gets for no reason. Mainly by shippers.

Great idea, putting this segment has its own post, I think most people don’t understand the nature of writers, and artist in general, and the need for inspiration, as well as the movement from long project to short projects and back. I love you guys talking together too!

The Battle of Gods Eye is going to take up a huge chunk of VFX budget alone.

Yes! Working on other projects helps with creativity and I think keeping in the ASOIAF world probably makes it easier to get back to Winds.

Tim looking cleannnnn!

Weather it's 3 seasons 10 ep or 4 seasons and 8 ep is the same thing, what matters is the quality and how they will tell the story.

Great to hear and see you back 🙂

Thanks for covering this! Great video as always! ❤

That "fewer" shoutout warmed my cold little heart.

Love the positivity 🎉

I’m even more excited for seasons 2 and 3 now.

This is off topic but I have to say it, I LOVE your hair David!!! This look is awesome, it reminds me of a darker version of Daemon's hair when he returned to court after his victory over The Crab Feeder 👑

Dude, DUDE!!!! My brain is so LML trained that im reading the novels for the first time and i was able to tell that the riders that surround Catelyn and Tyrion where all whitewalker references

Loved this little break in the D&E stream. Personally think it’s great news.

You guys are looking good!

The dragons' role in battle, its strategic maneuvering is going to be a challenge.

"well maybe not this guy". I laughed out loud 🤣

Yes!

Thanks Guys 🙏🏻for the update about House of the Dragon season 2👍👍🙋🏼‍♀️🇨🇦😃

When I first saw the headline like most people I assumed they're rushing to wrap things up. I thought HBO keeps thinking their audience only has patience for car crash & explosions & they don't realize that a proper buildup is what makes the climax hit. BUT then I saw they've pushed Battle of Gullet back to S3. Which means my fear that they were gonna ram everything into 8 episodes was totally misplaced. If Gullet is happening in S3, then surely there's gonna be a S4 as so much stuff is left. There's a ton of dumb misinfo on social media from stans of the two teams. But ignoring all the obv BS, what I gathered is that Miguel wanted 3 seasons while Ryan & GRRM wanted 4. With Miguel gone, they're restructuring. Making S2 shorter means the Dance is probably expanding in the long run. Which is a great thing.

i’m praying george and the show makers keep strong!!

My Tuesday starts right. 😊

Twitter 🙄 Love your guys take on this. They need to do 2 big Battles before that huge spoiler one. Putting those 2 together would be too much. Just my opinion. I didn’t see how it was possible to do all three. It makes sense. My guess is George is mostly involved in the adjusted framework.

I would disagree a bit that working on a long project means you need to drop it for other projects. It debatable that, I find just sitting down and focusing on long projects gets them done. Then do other projects when editing the completed project.

I love this fandom ❤️

I think george being involved is definitely a good sign that they want his input. When d&d stopped listening to him he didn't wrestle with them for control of the show, he just took a step back. I think if he's involved its bc he believes in it.

Those glasses are soo cool!

I've been wondering if going back and looking back at an earlier time in the asoiaf universe has maybe given some inspiration and motivation to his writing. Sort of the having to go back to go forwards. Also being able to work with people who genuinely love his work maybe helped to get him back into writing.

Hype 🥳

Great point about how if George is working on HOTD it could really get those creative juices flowing again to continue the main books.

As a first time reader i would love like a guide sort of like a vague treasure hunt of the symbolism and what it all means. Im fairly comfortable with spoilers because i saw the show but i would love your insight on what sets up the story to be incredible

Got you with the like and comment bro 👍

You are the only GOT channel I’m subscribed to. You have real information as opposed to useless theories that are 99% unlikely to happen.

Might we have a song from Lord Lightbringer of Frey sorrow and bloody vengeance to appease the gods of this 11ty one year long winter ?

Dope

Bruh I love lmls vibe

I had no doubts the moment they announced a third series. If Condel etc can walk up to HBO with such a package it means HBO are impressed and have few fears (which is impressive in this current climate). If there’s less episodes next season there’s good reason for it. I’m so excited. There’s a definite plan.

I'm putting all my hopes and dreams for HotD into Ryan Condal being a major GRRM's fanboy wanting to make Uncle George proud. Loved the edits! hahaha Poor Miguel

Question: Do you think Targ Dragon Dreams are a residual consciousness from their ancestors? If we lean in to dragonriders needing to sacrifice their blood relatives to birth dragons, would those relatives' psyche pass through the dragons, and over time less of the person remains (either in a Dragons = ultimate Fire Wights kind of way or the humanity is lost to beasthood kind of way) but their purpose for creation is passed on through their bonded riders, leading me to think Balerion the Black Dread essentially gave up on willing to live after being bonded to Viserys. In the show, Viserys did believe Dragons should have never been trifled with in the past or in the future, and feeling those feelings through the psychic bond combined with the extended amount of peace, Balerion no longer felt needed and died. Furthermore, a lot of people who have experienced generational trauma or childhood trauma will often dream of something happening in the near future. Considering the brain is a pattern recognition machine, it can use dreams (our subconscious) to communicate potential dangers it recognizes in the patterns experienced in consciousness. So, add in the magical fantasy elements with those recognizable patterns from generational trauma (remember the Valarians decend from Asshai) and boom, the Targs get Dragon Dreams.

David's Mickey voice caught me by surprise 😂😂😂

I do think some of the really important things are going to land better in season 3. I also heard that Aegon II and Helena are only going to have 2 kids. I think this is wise because the third child would have been just too much and unnecessary. I do know that people have a bad taste in their mouths about the abbreviated seasons 7/8 from the original series. George has got to do George. Just because people want to force him to write only TWOW doesn't mean that he's going to be able to schlep out TWOW. Changing his focus may really help him stretch and create.

My take is that George was brought in not so much to rewrite scripts as to navigate the break off point between seasons 2 and 3, when they decided to shorten the next season into the 8 episodes. While I of course would like to see more episodes, I'm fine with the decision since they're mapping out the story long term. In retrospect I would've loved to have them cut off Season 1 at the death of Viserys, moving the last two to Season 2, and explored a bit more with Harwin/Rhaenyra, and the evolution of her relationship with Alicent in Season 1. But I can't fault them because they didn't know they were going to have a Season 2, so they needed to go out with Vhagar over Storm's End and the two factions at the brink of war.

There was a video posted yesterday by a user names Eldric Stoneskin and I say we get LML to give it a peep.

Cool

Unless something changed recently. Grrm is under contract with hbo. He helped Ryan w s1 and will continue to work on all the got shows.

Hey lml you wouldn't believe this shit, I saw a meteor fly past the moon ten mins before your dunk and egg stream on Sunday, it was one hell of an omen 🤣

In Daemons voice "10 years! "

Is Theon the actual key to the north?

I liked dreamcatcher too! 😅

People on Twitter upset? Unheard of.

Shout out GW Timmy

I'd rather have some ancient long night shenanigans that was promised in the cancelled Blood Moon.

I just want casting to be honest!

Didn’t they raise the budget for S2? Which means more $$$ per episode? Which means better episodes? Even if they didn’t raise the budget, there wil be mo money per ep regardless? And maybe they can afford real dragons now 😂

❤‍🔥

We all bow to the mouse 😅

Yes, fewer. (Weird Al too.)

Also how tf is his hair always so damn drippy

I get the optimism but GRRM even if he was like only a part of a page since the last book came out would have finished at least a book by now. I would like if he dropped both books pretty promptly after all the work he should have been doing.

The other writers or the other riders

Was the author lml was referring to Brandon Sanderson?

I think it takes a lot of guts as a producer, director, show runner, to admit they need help from the source and actively seek out ways to make the show more successful. Ryan and George's working relationship pleases me, it seems like Ryan really gets George and respects his work greatly. Something Dave and Dan never achieved.

It’s the gullet

love u

Clive Standen should have been Cregan and now he can’t because they made him Jace’s age instead of a bit younger than Rhaenerya in Fire and Blood I think he was 28 or 30

Wait… Rooks Rest isn’t going to happen in S2??? Wtf

I dislike mocking people who are passionate about this stuff. We’re acting like s1 didn’t feel rushed and now 8 episodes?(hmmm when last did they do 8 episodes?) Apprehension is justified.

The only Daemon change I’d make is that he’d hug his daughters after Laena’s death so he’d be a daughter loving wife murderer

Damn, a dig at BrandoSando. I think it's okay to just get that they're two wildly different authors. Brando writes much less serious YA stuff (generally) while asoiaf goes 57 layers deep and Dips heavily into some DARK stuff. It's like yeah the surf and turf special we've been waiting on for 12+ years is going to taste better than anything else but.... that doesn't mean that this peanut butter banana honey sandwich that comes out twice a year isn't still very delicious - especially with some chocolate milk

YOU LOOK SO YOUNG WITH YOUR HAIR LIKE THAT

HBO is owned by WB, which is kind of broke. At least they had the sense to make some extra money this year by re-releasing Return of the King.

I didn't know where else to post this NBA ASOIAF crossover joke but I hope you see this LML...... Who's your favorite kings guard? I don't know but i'll tell you my least favorite....D'aaron Fox

8 episodes?! 😢😢😢😢 Noooooo!!!

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Yeah. 12 years. That’s how long it takes to finish. Actually, we might never get TWOW. He continues to work on other stuff and go on trips and gets treated like a king and fattening his bank account. I want him to either release the first half of winds or just finish winds asap and I won’t even care if he ever writes ADOS as long as he has an ending for everyone and he lets someone else write it.

This HBO decision is due to the way straming is shapping to work from now on. HBO wants the HOTD fans to pay subscription longer, so, more season equals more subscription. If you do a 10 eps season, its 3 month subscription, if you do a 8 eps season, it's the same amount of months. So, instead of 3 seasons of 10 eps, how about 4 seasons with 8 to 6 eps in the last 3? It's all about money, always. I just hope the production team can adequate the story for this format.

Lol. Who are you talking about? Sandon Branderson? Is that too obvious?

Finally some news. Man the off season is boring. Haha

"Dragons and shit"

NOOOOOOOOOOI

I’m an ASOIAF Stan and a Cosmere fan man. Let’s not be snobs here.

First!

Disney didn’t buy HBO.