Vhagar: "He can keep his eye".

Haha.. I like this one 😂

“Got his eye sonny, both of em!”

This deserves more likes 😂

LOL

"Nana, we told you to just rough him up a bit!" "Where'd you learn scare tactics, boi? You won't scare anyone like that back in the old country. You scare people by killing their loved ones!"

Babushka Vhagar

VHAGAR"When I was your age Arrax we had teams of Blood Mages teaching us how to speak High Valyrian and we had to Fly to and from the Volcano twice a day upwind both ways".... ARRAX "Your teachers were Blood Mages? That so cool Grandma!" ...

also they continue to whitewash greens. cool cool cool.cool

I 100% agree. Yes, people may be angry and feel that it takes away some of aemonds villainous Mystique, but they needn't worry, he has many more war crimes to commit that he truly won't feel bad about. Quite brilliant to use that opportunity to expand more on the nature of dragons and the bonds they have with their Riders. It perfectly Illustrated that just because you can bond with a dragon does not by any means mean that it ever needs to listen to you if it truly doesn't want to

This gonna push him into that villainous role.

@@AzkuulaKtaktu exactly. He will go back home and pride will dictate that he mustn't admit he lost control of vagar. So instead, he'll allow everyone to believe it was intentional. People will be horrified and call him kinslayer and he will lean into the role people have given him, much the same as Jaime Lannister being called King Slayer. Aemond is very much the Jamie Lannister of House of the dragon in my opinion

@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 same w the blacks. I think they're doing that for s1 so the bastardization arc of the parties is a bit more intense.

Literally!! I started sobbing like deadass sobbing when lucerys started flying to storms end!! And I was on the edge of my seat seeing them fighting in the storm (my dad looked over at me and was like “what the hell is wrong??”💀)

Omg same arrax was like let's go bud I'm scared 😞 my little heart couldn't take it

Even though I knew what was going to happen, when Luke arrived at Storm's End and Vhagar the literal dinosaur was near the court yard... my stomach dropped to my toes.

Aemond: No, Vhagar! Dohaeris! Vhagar: Dornish scum! Hold on tight, Visenya, we're gonna get em.

Omg I knoooww... Poor lil baby dragon 💔💔💔😭😭😭

Very well said! Man the comments here are so delightfully refreshing after the stupid Twitter uproar. Bless you

@@DavidLightbringer Thank you. Keep up the great work. I love your takes on the show and the books.

thank you!!! as much as I like David’s interpretation of Aemon’s intentions I really prefer the version where it was all an accident…which if it was, would probably make Aemon feel terrible (because he just murdered his cousin or whatever in cold blood, leaving Luke to have a horrible and painful death). I think it’s a more humanizing moment for Aemon. like that Aemon is the kind of person who will be the worst all the time, really have it out for his younger cousin and want to bully and scare Luke… and still be human enough to feel a deep regret for the horrific murder of a young boy who’s his family AND will also cause a massive war. just because Aemon’s reaction is not emotional doesn’t mean he’s not internally having a heart attack because a family member he’s known pretty well just died in front of him

@@restingsadface Yeah, he may have resented Luke, truly, but wanting him dead is a bit much. Tormenting and wanting vengeance for his lost Eye as a kid, which must've been a traumatic way to grow up afterwards, is understandable. But yeah, its quite unfortunate how it all ended, he didn't want Luke dead, but now he's killed his nephew in a very violent way.

Agreed. Appreciate that you mentioned the actor; it was played really well.

Even luke was surprised when his dragon spit fire, they both lost control and itbled 2 this

If I could I would that too, just for fun sakes

I do wonder how they will show us the B&C event now going forward. Remember Misaria has her own reasons to seek personal revenge thanks to Larys burning her home. Considering she wanted the child fighting rings to be closed, if Otto did not follow through, it would provoke her to take one if their children in revenge. Daemon may not have ordered it.

@@hobbesthecat6868 That’s my thought, too. I even wondered whether Larys Strong could be involved. We only know that Daemon and Rhaenyra ordered B&C because…well, because the history says so. But there are a lot of people who would have motive or could benefit from B&C - vengeance for Mysaria, Larys Strong using the chaos to his advantage. I think Mysaria would be an interesting one - she’s proving to Otto that the nobles only have power as long as the small-folk tolerate them to have power, and no amount of dragons or guards can protect them if the small folk decide to do something about them.

@@hobbesthecat6868 very interesting take

@BanquetOfTheLeviathan Oh, absolutely. Aemond and Daemon are meant to be foils for each other. They’re definitely far too alike - they fiercely love their family and are willing to do reprehensible things to protect them.

@@mellowenglishgal would be surprising if Larys Strong made it to S2 Ep.3 There is also the curse of Harrenhal to consider given Daemons' insistence on controlling Riverlands.

It also makes sense cause its night and storming intensly, both riders are pretty unexperienced and any animal acts up during weather like that

I wonder if Viserys had a bad experience with Balerion that made him not get another dragon 🤔🤔

@@thallus23 I feel like that’s what’s being hinted at, and I would love to know

"A dragon is not a slave"

From the guy who was know to be a great dragon rider... not.

That's interesting, because it's well documented in Asoiaf books and F&B that the eye is basically the only weak spot generally on a dragon.

Nice point, love the symbolism

Wow. I just realized that they both tried to take out their eye. I thought for sure when I first watched it that he got vhaegars eye I was like why didn’t vhaegar get hurt. So cool you put that together lol 😂 I’m so dense omg can’t I’ve I missed that

The left eye for both (Aemond’s lost eye and the eye Vhagar was hit by Arrax). The symbolism is for real.

In the books when Sunfyre fought Moondancer .. Moondancers flame blinded Sunfyre ..

That was Boremund Baratheon the father of Borros, the guy we saw in finale

Yes, there are multiple scenes, especially when Rhaenyra was younger, that showed she didn't care much about what the commoners thought of her, or even that much about what the lords thought of her. She just assumed they all would accept her and it didn't matter much if they didn't. Her just sending a message (attached to a prince and a dragon, but still) to the Baratheons with no offers continues to show her naivete about how no one should expect anything from her, but that they still should be loyal to her because she's the rightful heir.

@@brona497 I get what you're saying, (I mean you'd hope there'd be an argument from a being that loves you after being asked to do something like that!!!). But Vhagar's hesitation also indicates that a dragon's will does come into play whenever it's given a request/command. (In other words, it's not just blind obedience.)

@@brona497 Ah I see, yes calling Vhagar's hesitation to incinerate her rider "disobedience" is not giving Vhagar the credit she deserves, good point.

@@brona497 I didn’t consider Vhagar’s response to Aemond’s or Laena’s as disobedience. I thought it proof that dragons are not just mindless mystical creatures and will act on their own accord.

@@AshePBlack I didn’t feel this scene had anything to do with any illogical response from Vhagar. It was pure retaliation. Another dragon attacked her, her response as an ancient dragon who has battled in conquering wars was to demolish her enemy and she did so accordingly. This tragedy occurred because Aemond did not give Vhagar’s power the respect it deserved.

@@brona497 personally I see vhagar acting on Aemond's subconscious. The reason why (imo) Vhagar allowed Laena to die is she could tell she was in pain, or even feel it in some form. Same with Rhaenyra's stillbirth, when syrax is screaming and shit. Or caraxys when daemon was hurt. Aemond wanted that eye, bad. Vhagar said, he can keep it! Monch.

Agreed! Luce was scared out of his wits. There were a few options he could have seen if he wasn't scared. This is not a knock against him. Being brave when scared has nothing to do with keeping your wits. Keeping your wits under such extreme stress is a trained skill.

If he turned back yes. I don't think lucerys knew aemond would follow him. And when you're a scared teenager and the lord order his guards to escort you to your dragon you kinda just do what you're told without thinking. But the whole time I was screaming go back and demand guest right!

Yet you also had two examples in this episode of Dragonriders and their connections with their dragons. Daemon and Carrax's and Rhaenyra and Syrax were very in touch with each other. When things got tense on the bridge, Syrax called out and Rhaenyra stopped everything. I think Aemond was intentionally malicious and Vhagar read that. Luc was scared and trying to survive, and Arrax read that.

"My dog (that I've never socialised with other dogs )never acts like this at home (around only humans that's its known since 8 weeks olds) I just dont undderstand" - litterally everyday I hear this as a dog walker. The other one is "dont worry, hes friendly" while they let their off-lead dog approach my on-lead dog.

@@tickledeggz omg. SO annoying! Almost as annoying as people approaching and petting dogs on lead without permission from the owner. 'Excuse me, sir/madam/other; Do I know you? Why are you touching my dog?'

So true, that’s the only thing you remember while in A&E

Exactly ihave seen this before big dog chases cat cat lashes out in fear dog mauls poor thing, while the owner is yelling and trying to control its beast.

@@tickledeggz I have a large breed dog that like to lunge at people while I'm walking, not out of aggression but because he's easily excitable and loves people looking for a pat. He's well-trained, went to puppy school, follows all commands immediately first time without hesitation, socialises with other people/animals regularly and knows that he's not supposed to jump, won't do so at home or when he's being pet-sitted. Every time he does, he never makes physical contact, I'll have both hands firmly holding the lead tight preventing any actual movement and because of his size and the sudden movement he'll spook people who don't know dog body language and often confuse it for aggression. There's nothing (that I've been able to find even with consultation from experts, for his breed as its a known behavioural issue they have) I can do except keep the lead taut and say "sorry, he's trying to be friendly." There are so many shitty dog owners out there (I've rescued dogs from neglectful owners in the past) but I wouldn't assume just because the dog is having a ratbag moment or has a bad habit, it's a failure on behalf of the dog's owner.

same

Both Daemon and Rhaenys have been bonded to their dragons for decades. Ammond only a few years (6?) And given the situation Luc had slightly more control over Arrax as they've been bonded possibly since Arrax hatched. I don't remember if the books said if Arrax was the dragon hatched from the egg placed in Luc's cradle.

@@jalainasrandomness3165 I think the only riders that didn't receive a cradle dragon were Aemond and rhaena?? Just bc they didn't hatch

@@The-Doctor6969 Rhenys, Helena, and Daemon also claimed a previously owned dragon.

Being ‘synchronized’ with one’s dragon is not the same thing as being in total control of the dragon.

LMAO 😭

Wrong! Meemaw Vhagar simply had her airpods in and couldn't hear Aemond's commands. She was listening to a David Lightbringer video

@@miam2772 she was was doing voice over that time

Vhagar on my deathbed I would serve house Martells they killed my sister meraxes

Completely feel the same but I can’t not watch.

@@Gigipretty64 ugh me too. It's clearly masochism 😂

We are going to need a Dance of Dragons Support Group when it's over

@@devoleno 😂😂😂

Many a heart condition and nervous tension on the way😬

100% agree, great comments

I totally agree! This is the correct take imo lol it's weirdly frustrating to me when people say this choice makes Aemond's character two-dimensional. I'm like... they're all cold-blooded, power-hungry maniacs in the books! it doesn't really get more two-dimensional than that lol. I saw someone say, verbatim, the scene would have been better if it was "bloodthirsty and cruel Aemond descending from the skies to kill the nephew he despises." ??? i thought we all agreed season 8 of GoT sucked haha

@@DavidLightbringer This makes absolutely no sense. Vhagar and Aemond are two distinct entities both capable of making exclusive decisions. A dragon might not have thr brain power of a human but they are capable of killing, hunting, rejecting people and accepting people all of their own free will. Aemond is not innocent in this situation. But to say this is outright murder is biased. You speak of the situation like it's a DUI. Aemond is the driver and vhagar is the car unable to do anything without the input of its driver. False narrative. This was an accident no matter how much you stretch the truth into something else. Aemond should have never put vhagar in that situation but vhagar made his own decisions aswell.

the real act of aggression was lucerys cutting out his eye, never apologising or showing remorse and then taunting him years after they saw each other while Aemond was being peaceful for no reason

@@ser7100 and also Arrax attacking Vhagar first

@@ser7100 the real cause is the theft of Vhagar. The eye slashing was caused by the fight, the fight was caused by the theft.

@@hermithefrog629 If you still believe dragons can be stolen then you're left behind. That scene further proves that Dragons have their own minds. Something that is stolen it means it can be taken back, Why has no adult talked about this as theft or told him to bring it back? That's because Vhagar chose him and there's no guarantee that it wasn't just gonna burn Rhaena, Daemon's daughter. It was a risk and Aemond took it.

It's 💯 Aaemons fault. Whether or not he meant to kill Luce is a non- factor. The boy is dead because he made the choice to pursue a chase on a big ass dragon. What happen years ago is irrelevant to right now. That shit was immature as hell. No one that careless and so emotionlly charged needs to be on a damn dragon. Much less one the size of Vhagar. However, it is nice to see the decent of a character like Aaemon because it's relatable. We're human at the end of the day and we can all relate to making bad decisions off of emotions that lead to effecting someone or ourselves in a way that was not our intent. But your intentions don't out weigh the effects.

Yes. Add that Vhagar doesn't understand the common tongue and Aemond switched to the common tongue when trying to stop her... Maybe if he shouted in high valyrian? But he was just panicking at that point.

I imagine it's going to make him really unhinged.

I wonder whether Daemon even ordered B&C now that Misaria has her own reasons for vengeance. Larys burned her home and killed her people. If Otto did not stop the kid fighting rings, she has her own reason to hurt one of their children in retribution.

@@hobbesthecat6868 If Mysaria does B&C I think I might snap my TV in half. I wouldn't put it past them to make every single event that happens in the future a simple accident, miscommunication or faux-pas.

@@zypalitra8080 mysaria working with daemon for blood and cheese seems ideal, in my opinion. Unless there's another conclusion to the conflict Mysaria harped on, which there is no power not given by the common people.

@@zypalitra8080 I mean it makes sense since they have common cause, happens in wars IRL and would happen here as well since both are slimy individuals. Excited to see what they’ll do with it

Well, she sent her son on a diplomatic mission. And he did not came back. Lord Borros has things to explain...

Won't say coz it'll be a spoiler for anyone who hasn't read the books

@@chrissiek8706 And proving once again that the Targs were never any good for Westeros.

😂😂😂

Cool AF .. 🙌🏼

I can't help but compare it to to Viserion when he is reanimated by the Night King.

Daemon knows dragons like Vermithor because he grew up around them. Vermithor was the mount of Jaehaerys I, Meleys was the mount of his mother, and Vhagar was the mount of his father. I find that the dragon's temperment often mimics that of their rider because of the connection they share. It's pretty cool when you think about it!

gurm has said the show is the true depiction of what happened

so being stupid is?

Makes sense to me yeah

And can you blame her. She now knows for a positive her children will not be safe with green control. She is going to fight for their safety not their positions according to the crown.

aemond decided to chase them. vhagar had swiped at arrax about 4 times

@@ayomideayodele5378 yes but he wasn't trying to kill Luke, just scare him and get his eye. The look on his face says it all he went from laughing and joking to "oh fuck" in a matter of seconds.

Oh so that was Vermithor. At first I thought it was Vhaegar. And then I was confused how he was able to get near the dragon if it was indeed Vhaegar. Haha.

I've seen someone on Twitter come up with a great idea, that the three heads means: dragon, rider, and the bond between dragon and rider - which is like a mind of its own. That would also mean that Rhaegar completely misinterpreted the prophecy!

@@ivanacvetanovic7611 I figured the three heads was referring to the Targaryen’s Sigil, the three headed dragon

@@Chris-qe6qr The song is probably older, and it would be the other way round, the three headed dragon sigil was likely derived from that.

Rhaenys and Meleys are a close second.

Sunfyre and Aegon II

@@iampiyushsingh7544 Not even close.. They're a good combo, yes.. but to put alongside Daemon and Caraxes... Nop! (I loved these bonds of Dragons and their riders, it's just brilliant!!)

Rhaenyra and Syrax

@@joasbenjamin6804 Ya, we saw Syrax screaming wile Rhaenyra was suffering..

Wasn’t his hall at the time

The books say Viserys only rode Balerion once when he claimed him I think, and Balerion was so old and big he could barely fly.

That's because dragon rider cannot bond with another dragon once their dragon dies. So he was unlucky one lol

@@amyra8159 that’s not true. Ceraxes had another rider before Daemon and Vhagar had many riders according to the lore.

@@thallus23 that’s not what they said, dragons can have multiple riders, dragon riders can only have 1

@@almondoneye That’s not true. Viserys chose not to bond with another dragon after Balerion died, it wasn’t because he was not able to.

That’s it exactly

That's interesting. I was told that stallions control their herds (basically a harem plus colts) by biting & physical domination like side pushing & that's what human riders emulate with spurs, leg pressure & working the reins (they don't actually whip the horses & when whips are used it never breaks the skin & often it's the sound of the CRACK that the animal responds to.)

@@yensid4294 Not exactly. Stallions are less in charge than the lead mare and they form loose hierarchies that involve some nipping and force. There are many horse training philosophies. Most common ones do emulate how horses communicate with each other to some degree. But there is a growing movement for positive reinforcement based training that is getting good results. The most common methods mix types behavior shaping, but focus heavily on making the wrong thing uncomfortable to various degrees and so the reward is the removal of that discomfort. This can be as light as pressing on their side and removing your hand as soon as they shift their weight away (even light pressure is a bit annoying). To more severe with whips or a spur. Most of us do, also, praise and actively reward as well with voice, petting, and/or treats. Whip use is complicated and can be controversial. I think most horse people use them at a level that ranges from a firm tap that doesn't really hurt but let's you place the pressure to something that does sting. Others are not so judicious and very obviously abuse their horses. But it's not really just the noise unless you're talking about snapping a lunge whip without touching the horse. I've never met someone that uses bull whips at all. Just lunge whips, crops, and dressage whips. Edited to add: leg and rein pressure is really just the cues we train horses to respond to rather than being somehow natural.

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But Aemond was clearly panicking though, so the few words he spoke in High Valyrian wouldn't have gotten through to Vhagar anyway. Plus, she was pissed at being attacked so she went into kill mode.

Also Sunfyre has never yet been used in combat like Vhagar has. Vhagar has been previously used as a killing machine so it makes since she would go rogue after Arrax shot at her.

Good point! I agree, and I wish they included Sunfyre in Aegon's ceremony. Perhaps without Rhaenys, the "control" over a dragon may not have been demonstrated as well???? But the face value triumph of the scene shrouded in horrific context really made me love his crowning. The action seemed unnecessary. Sunfyre chilling, doin what she does best, listening to aegon, might have been nice. But what do I know lolol they may have considered it and threw it in the bin.

Yeah. After burning most of dorne, Vhagar isn't gonna be a young boy's minion

Isn't this point made moot in this very scene? Given that Arrax, a young dragon with it's first rider, just like Sunfyre, also acted beyond the riders control.

In most countries Aemond is going to jail, in the USA he gets off on self defence.

And Aemond is scared after the murder only b/c he knows that he will have to answer for his crime. The Blacks will not let the murder of Lucaerys and Arrax go unpunished…and Aemond knows that once Rhaenyra and Daemon find out-they’re coming for him.

@@Aerie925 Oh please, Aemond is not thinking about Daemon and Rhaenyra 😭 he’s thinking about what his mom would think

Luke deserves everything happened to him. He took eye of Aemond, then mocked with him on dinner, he never apologized or showed some regret. He is arrogant and spoiled, debt is paid.

@@Dean-np3ui facts

That was a flamethrower attack. Fire Blast has the 5 arms coming out of it.

I am waiting for his reaction. I hope we will see it in season 2

@@gokuson2778 with the slower timeline, I wonder if it will be the climax or an inciting action?

@@The-Doctor6969 that blood and cheese scene I hope would be heart breaking.

Imagine the kid being his instead of Aegon's. It would remind me of Cercei and Jaime a little bit.