The prosecution lawyer got her to admit that she’d already seen those photos of her son prior to today

​​@@mshah5786He's awesome! He caught her in several lies where she'd just lied then had to admit it! She's so evil! No telling what else her poor child went through. I also think Paul was abused. He's mentally challenged as well. No way she's not going to prison. Oh yes she totally faked throwing up.

😭😭😭

Pretty lady in pink on court tv is wrong the other kids were abused Timothy was tortured and special needs is not her reason. She’s mentally ill and psycho that’s the “reason”

Obviously acting her way out of trouble, 🇬🇧

Good momma❤ sorry to hear what you have been through as a child. My fiance he been through the same bad childhood he loves our daughter to death

Amen!

Amen to that. Hope your life now is great. I didnt have a good one either but she thinks its her excuse. Wish i was going to jail with her as this story has moved me beyond words.

I pray your life is better

I’m so sorry this happened to you 🙏🏻❤️ I sincerely hope you are healing and wish you the happiest of lives. I don’t know if what happened for you was generationally passed on. Please know you aren’t alone, and that it was never your fault 🙏🏻❤️🌸

Your poor dad. So true. If we are abused the last thing we want to do is repeat it 😢

@@binkybunnysway9431/8 abused become an abuser later in life. Violence begets violence. It’s a vicious cycle. Th other 7/8 can overcome thier trauma

🙏for dad..,SO PROUD HE OVERCAME!!! BROKE THE MOLD!! 😔 HALLELUJAH, AMEN

Aww. Please hug your dad extra tight next time you see him for me. ❤ I'm so sorry.

Aww. Please hug your dad extra tight next time you see him for me. ❤ I'm so sorry.

I don’t know about women’s prisons, but if in a male prison, her fellow prisoners would likely see to that. Child abusers are generally despised by other prisoners.

So often?

Best and truest comment on here!!! Xxxx

and should only eat the "extreme hot sauce" with bread that she claimed would "hurt her stomach" but its "okay" to feed it to this innocent child.

I wish America was an “eye for an eye” country. Makes me laugh whenever I hear stories this awful, and weirdos say the death penalty is “cruel and unusual punishment” 🙄

And she fell for it, fuckin twice.

IKR, what a piece of brilliance from the Prosecutor! She fell right into that, as he knew she would. She is a sociopath and he totally understands what drives her, she couldn't resist the urge to show everyone how superior she thinks she is.

and she absolutely oblivious that she bein trolled

Like 3 times she corrected him😳

She walked right into that one! Bahahaha!

Thank you for saying this. I was abused every way possible as a child that lead me into an abusive relationship for 14 years. I never abused my children and I made sure ether never felt or was abused by their father that the only time I felt strength was protecting my children from having an abused I had a faced. As a parent that is our only job protect protect protect ur children 😢

Me too!

​@@jacquelineburnett8332I'm so sorry...

What is she claiming to have caused PTSD?

@@jacquelineburnett8332You are a strong person! I agree with the perspective that being abused does not excuse becoming an abuser as an adult. People make choices

Selective memory.

@@alfonzo7822not being rude or anything I’m genuinely curious, do you watch explore with us, (EWU) true crime stories, on KZfaq? I ask because they have a lot of body language and behavioral analysis talking points, (I know selective memory is a universally well known term) it’s just that I hear it a lot on that channel. I’m just curious how many people across KZfaq watch that channel that’s all.

Exactly. Sickening.

Selective towards her "merit" of herself. Disgusting and creepy. What differentiates that monster from a capital murderer?

Exactly!!! I'm so sickened by her act- her PTSD- maybe her husband had a stroke because of what she did to him!!!! This woman is a nasty monster 👹 She is a liar and an actress- NO ONE can believe her because she doesn't remember the torture? The hot sauce, the diarrhea and standing naked on a wall.... oh she is so awful!! This woman thinks she is so smart but she is just plain EVIL. She must be put away in prison where she belongs. How about her two sisters that have not spoken to her in 20 years!!! There is a lot of shady things wrong with this evil murderer. She isn't even human- she should never see daylight again. Is the death penalty on board?? Or maybe she can be tortured the way she did it to her son! An eye for an eye?

I can’t even stand her face there are not enough words to describe how hideous she is

I can’t stand looking at her! Ugh! What an evil disgusting woman! She sits there acting all smart, makes me want to slap her

Shes messed up in her brain for sure, I would bet on actural brain damage from childhood, these people wont rehabilitate so life sentence is fair. I hope one day we could diagnose this behaviour in children soon enough and have some kind of treatment, otherwise its straight fate. What is even more horrifing, is that we had here few cases of such crimes but done by whole family of 6 people, thats crazy cuz even any medical state of brain cant play role in such group mentality...

The benign face of evil. Pasty. Lumpy. Miserable.

I’ve only heard a bit and it makes my blood boil 🤬

😢

and her rolling her eyes towards the judge, like he was supposed to correct such an unfair question about her plants...

@123pickles bruh she’s basically on the stand giving herself on a silver platter. In the court of law the the prosecution has to be professional regardless of the circumstances. He’s trying too hard to be spicy.

That part!

They need to let her keep talking. She's running her mouth a lil bit too much.🤬✌🏾🤔

* front row NOT roll

​@kristinebailey6554 We all understood what the OP was saying. Did you just need to feel superior in your pathetic life?

​@@nobodysbusiness3533Staaahhp!

And she thinks people are going to buy her act.

@@kristinebailey6554 Does "peach-tree dish" mean anything to you?

I’m surprised and shocked she even has a friend! That person should probably be in jail too!

Wrong. That was her son saying that on the phone not her.

No it was her

I've listened to Paul And Shanda's call from jail, they both complain of being cold, and the bad food!! Shanda has a friend from law school who calls her. But her friend and her husband have been giving her legal advice. Shanda's friend was telling her about a case who didn't get as much time, just over malnourished , she told her she would email the case, So Lawyer Shanda can read over it. Lol

@@RebeccaBerry-qv6kg A sh*t-house lawyer. Those are the best ones. They know all the loopholes and the reasons that the law doesn't apply to their particular case. I knew a guy in the Army who was his own sh*t-house lawyer. Went from being flagged for promotion and on a physical-limitation profile to being chaptered out of the Army with a Dishonorable Discharge!

To be honest, even though he's a great judge, I was disappointed that His Honor sustained the defensive objection to the prosecutor's question, "Those plants never missed a meal, did they?" I thought that it was a very relevant, rhetorical question which was right on point.

Exactly

I didn't think of eggs because it was middle of the day.

@@Thats_Right80 exactly! Insanity

And she looks pretty chubby so she never had to lose any weight to even be able yo know if she loves weight fast. Kept herself well fed

@@Geeparis exactly

I didn't hear anything go into the pail except spit lol

I gag when I puke. But I do think she made herself puke.

Yes totally agree just like the panic attack was fake. I have panic attacks and they're not like she acted. She was just sitting there. Sickening...

She's nothing but an attention seeking monster

Absolutely correct.

No...that wasn't why. did you s👀 the interview her atty Mr Johnson gave on court tv w/ micheal & the blonde lady, after the sentencing? (micheal, tried to throw Mr. Johnson under the bus... and Mr. Johnson set him straight & took over the interview... Mr Johnson is a Man of integrity... *he said we all knew she was guilty and he was fairly, accurately, sincerely doing he job according to the constitution* defense did their part, the prosecution did their part, jury did their part. he also is was never a win or lose situation but that the game was played by the rules. if you haven't seen it you should go watch it, hear what he has to say. you view defense atty's in a whole different light... (Shanda Vander Ark's Defense Attorney speaks the court TV)

her memory was PERFECT on that... 🤦

AGREED! I was also impressed with the line of questioning about the dogs. He did a fantastic job.

That part! 🙌

The plants never missed a feeding🤣 I know it was deemed irrelevant, but f, he ain't wrong lol

@@katiecurtis9730 right!? I feel bad, but I LOL'd at that zinger.

Yeah. She said she was busy so even looking at the photo of her starving child that she was sent couldnt distract her enough and THATS why she just said "give him some bread". She would NEVER have thought of " cook him some eggs" at THAT time of day when she was sooo busy!

It disturbs me beyond comprehension. She is colder than the ice baths she forced on her poor child!

Psychopath not sociopath.

Atlantic cold. Back of the fridge under the frozen peas cold. To stay in the icebath-terms. But seriously though. This woman seemed to have a very weird and disturbing powerstruggle with her teenage son. I've seen a big part of her trial and I could not for the heck of it understand why she did what she did. Until she said something in terms of: he still wouldn't behave. And: he thought he could get away with it. So she looked at her son as a "normal" teenager that was misbehaving. That's....I don't know. If you take things that far? You're a psychopath. She's too well educated to be a sociopath in my opinion. I feel so sorry for all of these people...this woman is not in a happy or healthy state. What punishment did she get?

She's clearly a sadist... needless to say very dangerous!

Imagine being on the jury and hearing that. She should have to have those photos in front of her every day for the rest of her life.

right? the only people I've heard talk like that are parents who starved their children to death or close to it.

Yeah ... pretty damn insane.

Exactly.

" we had a shared Easter basket and he had already eaten his portion!" WTF????? Who is the child here??? It's not like he stole it from a store!! It was his own damn families food !!! And OMG lol, when I had 2 growing teenage boys, how is wished I could lock my fridge, freezer and pantry lol😂😂😂 They ate SO much!! Heck, I used to bake 2 loaves of bread everyday to try and fill em up before dinner was ready 😂

Or "sneaked" food

Zero!!! 👹🤬🤬🤬💔

*HAS! She’s still alive, she’s still believing all this.

Look up appetite demons. She is infested.

@harrisonhanson2998 She's not believing anything. She's an habitual liar.

Exactly - she seems to be a narcissist who thinks only of herself; her husband was granted custody of the children - that being rarely done, means she had done something(s) far worse than having an affair. Then when he died, the older kids moved on with their lives, the younger ones had no where to go but back to their mother not realizing probably she could not legally have them. It's a shame the step mother didn't want to keep them (or the older kids felt they could not cope with them.) So they were back in the abusive situation - so very sad. Hopefully the youngest will be ok where he is now, but Paul will need someone strong to minister to him & bring him to God. Unfortunately, Timothy had no chance, because narcissists cannot stand to be seen with anyone who is disabled in anyway because they think themselves as perfect versus everyone else; so Timothy surely is now at peace in God's Heavenly Kingdom.

I am a single mom and I’d for sure make sure 🤬

I laughed so hard when he said that. They shouldn’t have interrupted him

So glad he didn’t go easy on her

Proud 😁 of having taken care of the 🌿🌿plants by feeding them, but of course she didn't hate😡 the plants. By the way,. to this kind of "women" often have their plants 💀die: striking. Lack of soul and capacity 💀🪨😡🤮🤮 to be a secretary in Hell.

@@bakedinthekitchen92RIGHT. like wow the courts need to be so professional tf. this women starve her baby and feed her plants. he had every right to call her out !!😭😭

why *

I'm sure the ladies in prison will treat her well....

So that would make us as bad as her. She finds excuses to torture her son, so we use that excuse to torture her. That's not justice. That's hypocrisy.

​@hashtastic3537 hopefully she's not put in PC and actually put in genpop.

Its treating her the same way she treated her child, so she knows how it feels. ​@@adamjacksonmedia

​@@hashtastic3537i wouldn't treat her well if I was in prison with her! I wouldn't be in prison though.

What you’re looking for is called an “adjective.”

Totally agree

What a wicked woman. Pure

You can’t judge a book by its cover, but in this case we’ll make an exception to that rule: She looks and projects Evilness and Sadism

What @hyperionssupreme551 is very much explanatory without an "adjective" Just saying.@@pipermccool

That’s what I thought she was actually giggling

Odd too that there was an objection to the prosecutor asking if the plants had ever missed a meal. I get it, it is argumentative, but doesn't it show just how callous this person is? That the reason she is here is because she had no mercy when it came to her poor dead son, but did care about her plants. I'm sure Timothy would have loved some of that empathy.

These are the sociopaths who votes for morons like trump

@@willard39 She has NO remorse and NEVER will.

The kind that should have been put to sleep, the day after a jury found her guilty of Homicide..

😔😔😔

😢😓

When his body was originally found he was wearing an adult diaper. I think the sad truth is he often had to soil himself and was denied access to the toilet.

That poor boy went through horrifying things 😢 I can't imagine what he was thinking & feeling. Unfortunately pain, fear and anxiety were probably what he felt the most.

Some of this, I don't have to imagine.😢

I'm really sorry that happened to you.

Funny I wanted my mom’s attention. Yet she was horrible towards me. This lady is bat crazy. Personality is so thick and controlling. No chance from beginning.

I am so glad you got free. No one should be abused, especially a child

Thank God you got away

Attention. People who abuse children to it because of a sense of envy and entitlement. Children require end demand attention. A childish narcissist will be envious of the attention and care that is required by the child. She's having the time of her life. This is the most exciting thing with the most attention on her she will ever have.

She's a sociopath, and literally doesn't see she did anything wrong. Insane.

She's a hard, harsh master of her prison camp for children with disabilities that she brought into this world

nonsense@@eddiea2446

Because she didn't want to give up the dollar amount that she received because of his disabilty

​@@eddiea2446What an ignorant thing to say.

Why do men procreate with these disgusting women?

He is likely used to malignant narcissists, psychopaths etc who have no conscience and live by their own playbook.

Facts !!! 💯

@@antoinettenovella1630I can’t imagine how hard it is to be a judge in this messed up world

She's guilty as hell, but I doubt she can puke on command.

I swear I seen a slight smirk on his face at first. lmao!!

probably not unfortunately, We like to think Jail will be extra punishment but unless she does something specifically in there to make someone angry she’ll live a long time.

IKR. The judge's face is priceless.

also that poor officer that had to read those text messages with the lady on the stand you could tell how discusted he was with her and these text messages made him ill he darted his eyes towards her many times reading those texts i felt sorry that they had to read the texts plus remeberi i bet the read every single one of them and they know more that was done to this poor child we only got snippits of the text wish there were transcripts or documenttation on any of her stuff where is the prelim hearings and other thigs like interogations tapes ec in these typeso f crimes

​@@nursingeducationtutor6480Yes I noticed that as well. I could tell he knew she was faking it.

Oh can you ever see the look of disgust on his face....anyone in their sane mind can see right through what this monster did to her own child.😊

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

A hostage, but he wasn't even worth that to this monster.

Many adults with PTSD abuse family members. It's not on purpose. It's knee jerk reactions. It's often the reason for divorce among soldiers who have served during war. It is usually unplanned. But of course we can see this woman doesn't have PTSD. And she planned all of this.

Her correcting the prosecutor over the exact weight.. I knew that her memory failures were a lie. She forgot right before trial.

She fell right into that..fantastic work by the prosecution

Made her throw up, that was so clever

And how he said only a prisoner needs to “escape” - great work.

Actually sometimes the abused child continues to abuse her kids

Not that it's the same, but similar, that's like parents who didn't have parents in their lives who aren't there for their own children. For example, my child's father didn't have his father around growing up.. so I assumed he would never want our daughter to know how that feels. Because he knows how it feels. Instead, he chose not to be there. Hurt people hurt people, I suppose.

@@ashleighbaugh9839 I’m so sorry to hear that. Exactly. You’d think if someone lived through it, they’d do everything to make it not happen again. I’m sure you’re an amazing mom ❤️

THANK YOU.

You are so goddamn right, the abuse I suffered gives me no right at all to abuse others and like you say it is the LAST thing i'd ever want to inflict on another person. It's bullshit.

almost like she’s just a lying sadist

And continually saw him like that.

She DIDN'T throw up. It was an sct.

It 100% was an act. She is ablsolutley disgusting. @@michelleduncan9965

It's all a show.

It's even worse when you consider how Paul sent her photos of Timothy's emaciated body and she just replied with "give him bread"-

Hypocrisy at its finest

🤮 She is one evil b.

PTSD can absolutely block memories. Not saying it’s happening here but… cmon lol

@@cassanateli yes, but not in the way she’s describing.

@@slaws2279exactly she wasn’t experiencing PTSD because someone had a stroke.

Me too

That was freaking UNBELIEVABLE!!

He said, "The plants never missed a feeding" I almost fell over.

For real tho

💯 was just about to comment on this! Checks on the plants and cares more about them than her own kid - manages to keep THEM alive. Sickening. 😣💔

“Hell is empty, and all the Devils are here.”

The fact that she was incredibly proud of herself for keeping those plants and training dogs, yet blatantly neglecting and abusing a helpless child, it’s terrifying. This woman is scary

Satan is waiting for her

She remembers not having eggs this is nuts

I've seen this technique before with narcissists on the stand. Make small mistakes with the details and they feel smart correcting the record.

@@ElizabethT45 yep, my thought while watching was "how you gonna claim you *dont remember* while correcting tiny details such as eggs or weight or whatever" that is complete bull. Just shows how people can be. I swear the older i get the more i feel that human beings are just inherently evil.

@@haliemaxine3734 On Late Show with Stephen Colbert, he does this Colbert Questionnaire where he asks his guests the same 15 questions. He asked Andre 3000 what the most dangerous animal was and he said "humans." Accurate.

I noticed that too. She's so stupid she didnt realize that. Haha.

He also knows it was a lost case from the start.

@Moonhootie exactly....even the best lawyers on this planet wouldn't have been able to get her off

The Lord will judge her, after the other inmates send her to Him. Its pretty much a guarantee at this point. What remains of her life in prison is going to be absolute hell for her once general population gets word of what she has done. I hope she receives the Lords forgiveness and accepts the Lord Jesus, because she doesn't have long now.

@@ryanw2553gods done worse thing don’t be so quick to assume

​@@TaxpayingPatriotagree! 👌

agreed, so fake!

Yep

​@@gregschuur8767idc if it was fake or real life in prison for that monster

Hiding below the stand so no one can see her...

​@@yeesh9215Yes she was just gagging and coughing.

I went to school with Timothy(he went by the name Tim Tim) from 6-9th grade before he moved to Michigan. He was the sweetest kid and was always the happiest person in the room. We loved him and he loved us. The signs of abuse were so obvious but as kids we didn’t understand what abuse signs looked like. His cloths were nasty and too small for him he had holes in his shirts because he chewed the collar. He had to have his head shaved ball multiple times because he got lice so much and he smelled terrible and who knows how often he had taken showers. Every day at lunch he would walk around and ask everyone if he can have their milk or food they wouldn’t eat and he would hurry over to his table and try to down it all I’m guessing that was because he wasn’t allowed to eat at home and maybe get in trouble if he brought it home and if he didn’t finish it during lunch he would put it all in his back pack and eat it or drink it during class. I wish they described tim Tim’s personality more in the trial. He was such a good kid. I remember they had our entire class sit in the gym while we waited for something and he sang a song for all of us. I just wish I could go back and give him a hug and tell him he was worth something. Years later and I still can’t get over his death it just can’t get over how a personality like his can just disappear. I’m a senior in highschool now and still think about him all the time. The rage I have for his mother is beyond words I saw her one time at the school and you could see in her eyes how she had no care for him I wish I could’ve seen the signs

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Why the school did not report his abuse???? Why???? How old was he???

@@mariademartini157 they did report these things multiple times to DHS but there is only so much they can do given the circumstances and I knew him from the ages 11-15

Oooohhhhh it’s other kids aswell as the littel boy

And narcissism.

A defendant has a constitutional right to testify. Who knows, maybe her counsel has a conscience and knew her testimony would seal her fate.

That's probably why to let the judge and jury see that for themselves.

If she wants to go on the stand she’s allowed to. Any attorney worth a grain of salt will tell you never to testify on your own behalf, but you always have that decision.

I agree and always usually if she never had contact with Timothy from birth on she would not have a natural affection so yes she would favor the youngest cuz he’s always been with her from birth on .. I know that for sure

I think she should be made to look at those pictures EVERY day for the rest of her miserable life!

I don't think she favored her youngest, I think she was manipulating him to do her dirty work. You can see in his testimony that he was definitely abused also.

@@ramonatanceusz9695she has a 7yr old im talking about.

​@@Slakker79That's even more alarming. God only knows what she did to the little one physically and mentally.

She’s not a control freak, she is a narcissistic sociopath.

Yes poor boy had a long and gruelling death

Tortured...abused and bullied is not strong enough to describe what she did.

Children children children

Convenient amnesia!

She worked in same courtroom beside a judge she knows how to play the system or she thinks

I never believe she had PTSD because the ironic thing about PTSD is that you remember absolutely everything

Not crazy. Pure evil.

She's not crazy, she's a walking characterological disorder: a disorder of MORAL character. She's either a narcissist, a borderline (most likely), or a sociopath. These people walk amongst us and especially flock to extremist religions, extremist politics, lead cults, and are abusers of all types. Domestic abusers who are male abuse their spouse and children. The female domestic abusers abuse and control their children, and manipulate their spouses (often with sex and/or flattery). There are so many of these people in society, and they get away with beating, controlling, abusing, and neglecting their children because people "don't want to interfere". They especially love to homeschool their kids so no one outside of her range of control (teachers and administrators) can't report the abuse and neglect (or the child falling asleep in class). They'll deprive them of medical care if their is no spouse/family member to make them take the child to see a physician or dentist.

​@@NotSoNormal1987perhaps evil and crazy too

Oh she understands alright.

She understands because she the court noted she was performing her law clerk duties until she was arrested.

Me too and I'm thoroughly disgusted, how many other kids are out there being starved and beaten. I'm horrified 😭💔🤬

yes I've been down the Ruby Franke rabbit hole meanwhile this even more gruesome situation is taking place. 😢Frightening!

That baby won't have see her face. No more God got that baby better care shes nothin but a fuckin low life

The body cam footage video shows her performance at home when the police first came.

God could only have mercy on her soul, Because no one else could No loving human could even understand how evil.. I hope God is holding Timothy & he is warm and having all the best of foods.. I wish demons like her would have just given Timothy over to someone else.. it’s that simple.. she didn’t because she is pure evil…..

Some people who know her said she is anti-social and MEAN. I can believe that without a shred of doubt.

All four of her children but the youngest from a different husband were removed by child protective for abuse and neglect from both parents, then at one point and after it was only the father who was able to regain custody of all four kids he was told point blank by the judge at the time he was given custody that the mother was never to be around any of them unsupervised until 18 and how the father is not being charged with dumping his vulnerable child on this abusive monster is bizarre to me. I can see how the oldest son became involved because this was done gradually by his mother who kept saying that this was what needed to be done for Tim's own good. Add to it Paul being an abused neglected child himself I can see why even though his mind knew it was wrong he kept going along with it.

I bet that she’s sticking her evil fingers down her throat to make herself 🤮, just like she told her son to do to his brother..

Not if you know the truth. Then they just seem 100% crazy. They are

She's not a good actor, everyone can tell she's a lier

Just like my ex wife.

True. Dat....

This is exactly right.

So true! Great comment.

answers and excuses

Great Statements!!! So true!!!

She isn’t a mother, She had a child. She wasn’t mothering in any way, shape or form.

My thoughts exactly. You know she was sticking her finger down her throat as she hid behind the witness box. Disgusting waste of life.

Her acting was terrible. She deserves a golden Rasberry award for world's worst actress.

Right? She’s able to abuse for months without an issue, yet when she sees a photo of the abuse she herself caused, it causes her to vomit.

Exactly!!

​@@louwinters508Agreed. Academy Awards are for good acting, not this BS.

when doing these kind of things repeatedly, its not ptsd, not in any world is it ptsd. PTSD episodes make you go back to a time you feel terrified, or a tramatic period of time. its ridiculous.

Not everyone experiences it the same way. Your experience is anecdotal . Anecdotes are not empirical evidence

@@Freeyourself206 Respectfully anyone who acts that way has something wrong with their character and are weak-willed. Trauma and ptsd, is coped with differently. But weak-willed individuals let it consume their lives by becoming that evil themselves.

Sleep deprivation is torture.

@@user-go3pj9ye1k it is

True tre 😔 she even looked at his scrawny body in a photo her son sent and she felt nothing ..so she saw the same scrawny type photo and now she's upset?

Thankful for people like you.

❤

off topic, but are you from Medford, MA? I'm in MA. thank you for helping that innocent, little child. it's amazing he has the same name!

I grew up in Medford, Oregon. Helped that kid in Boise, Idaho. We still talk from time to time. He's doing good.

@@medfordJimmy that's great!! 😄 it's nice to meet good people. thanks for being one!

It wasn’t her husband, it was her son.

Her husband was taking care of him and he had a stroke and had to go to some kind of home then this evil demon took over.

Exactly! If my son wants a snack at midnight he still wakes me up and ask and I have never once denied him food at any times. It’s so sickening someone could even deny a child let alone your own child food.

Let me get a hold of her!!!!!

Siri didn't mess anything up. Nasty beaoooch. I wouldn't help that sick witch with nothing. Why didn't the siblings call the police. I hate her.

And he was being devious for "sneaking" toys to play with. Can you imagine that? A child being "devious", for wanting to play with a toy? When she bitches about him taking things apart. Wouldnt allowing him to play with toys, help deter him from doing things like that?

Exactly! If a child's needing a snack give them one. They're growing like weeds and need proper nutrition to grow. I would never deny my child food or warmth or a nice warm bath before bed. I don't care if she had a bad childhood that would make most people do everything in their power to break the cycle.

@kaylaaustin, was this, were these kids biologically hers. It didn't say other wise.

​@@hank0455Yes these are her biological children.

The devil himself doesn't claim this garbage

This is a dumb comment. Don’t claim her as in people with PTSD don’t do evil things? That is grossly untrue..

​@@staceymacfacey​You clearly missed the point and are literally arguing over pointless semantics. Give it a rest and go start pointless internet drama elsewhere.

Lmao what?..

@@amirazeineddine9727if you’re talking in the biblical sense, the devil was never responsible for any of the evil…god was. Evil humans twist that as a get out of jail free to justify being monsters. 100% agreed. I can’t imagine the worst of us trying to justify her.