Lmao he’s not wrong!🤣

Jen's the villian. She does nothing heroic the entire show

LOL!!! Yes, indeed.

If this was trying to go for a Freakazoid level fourth wall break- April O'Neil: "Well, you failed miserably!"

🤣

Haha that’s so true! I remember how upset he was in his video he made responding to his audience. But now he finally accepts the truth.

Lol Joe doesn't care about you, only about the money his channel makes, to him you're just another number.

Admit you've never read a She-Hulk comic. Because honestly this was spot on. See you lot fail to understand that She-Hulk does the fighting bit in her comics but the story is never really about the fighting. She-Hulk is self-aware she knows she is in a comic and often uses those comics as evidence in her trials. She was self-aware and using the fourth wall LONG before Deadpool was a thing, even in his comics he has pointed out that he just copied her but the MRA who read his comics would never read a female lead comic so they think he did it first. Yeah thats a literal fucking thing. So Jen actually busting out and confronting the bad writing and the tired tropes and overused plot lines is 100% accurate to the source material because fans have been complaining about the tired trope of the hero having to fight the bad guy who has the exact same powers of the hero for YEARS, Having Hulk show up outta no where to save Jen would be stupid too because it would make her look weak in her own show. You also miss this is not a superhero show, its a sitcom with a superhero character. BIG difference.

@@TheLastSane1 bad show is bad no matter what happens in the comics

@@GUYMAN261 If you think its bad thats fine. Just admit that you 1 never were going to like it, its female lead. and 2 that it does not follow your agenda and beliefs. The show is a sitcom its not an action movie, you lot just are being dump

to be fair, its the first and last time they'll write for something mainstream.

stole it straight out of deapool kills the marvel universe too

HaHaHa!!! That’s so true.

Jesus, you guys will complain about anything.

@@kluneberg8952 I feel bad for you if you believe that. I mean, I wish it was true, but these people continue to get jobs because of their friends and so long as they have friends, or meet a quota, they'll continue to get work.

i was more shocked that joe and gang defended the twerking episode... lol but their reaction and sadness while borderline crying and saying "but... it's NOT the worst thing on tv right now..." and then trailing off without a better example.... pure chefs kiss

This show is rock bottom for the MCU.

@@willybe6427 imagine being mad at a fun post credit twerk scene

@@KyubiCloaks German cat strikes again

@@PlahaKumar Nah, dark world and Hulk worse tbh but this is up there or actually down there Imao

She literally was proven wrong and at the end found her own way to do both what she wanted and what Bruce said she had to do.

What are u talking about? U daft? The show literally showed how wrong ien was at the beginning because she couldn’t control her rage and hulked out. Bruce was right.

@@BowmansWorld yeah it showed that... and then it showed her writing out of all consequences by breaking the 4th wall entirely. Which if you enjoy fine. But it doesn't make for a compelling story to me

@@lightdarksoul2097 not to me it didn't. She writes herself out of all consequences from hulking out and the enemies she made.

Just like the comic. It is good to see a show faithful to the source material.

It's Hollywood. They won't care

Fer real

they didnt need that to know which people to avoid

In current Hollywood being a bad writer/activist means you are good.

@@Mr.PR2000 a bit of a false equivalence to connect being an activitist in and of itself to being a bad writer. Captain America for example was basically an activist call by its writers for America to get up and punch Hitler in the face instead of staying neutral like they were at the time. Now people who try to shoehorn activist messages into their writing without proper meshing it into the story or characters and taking care to ensure that it actually work (on any side of the political spectrum or regarding any issue). Prioritizing the moral/product over everything else is what gets you shit like that one meme worthy Pepsi ad. All in all, it's completely possible to be an activist who goes to something like a climate rally or a pro-hong kong/Ukraine, Iranian people/whatever rally and still be a good writer. It's even possible to put activism into your stories and have it be good if you actually mix it in with the proper care and attention to detail. Unfortunately, alot of hack writers are the story telling equivalent of a baker who throws an egg into a bowl of flower, pours a cup of sugar on top, and expects you to Marvel over the 'cake' they've just created.

Dude, hand clap.

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She-Karen

@@jamesmayle3787 at this point everyone gonna need some jesus

So in conclusion the fans were right. She hulk was as bad and sexist as every single one of them predicted.

Was his responsibility not transforming? He gets 10 years for being a motivational speaker? His character was actually reformed and Jen has no problem sending a reformed person to jail? I felt bad for him.

@@dennydude yeah, but he did get out.

Right, like when she threw that super car to Daredevil

When she said that I’m like that’s bullshit

Hell she also broke her limiter she lucky she ain't the one spending 10 years in prison

what? dude the cat misspelling stuff memes ?? HO LO PE VE you : Hope Love me : Holo Peve dude, these shit most of the times are actually funny

i did it better cause i didnt even watch it and i am not going to :)

I’m just hoping Marvel Studios fix this problem have better male female characters well written badass sexy also the punisher is going to be TVMA he needs to be ultraviolet and dark Mature tone.

Exactly. Not a gddamn thing. I want to kill myself thx to this crap.

@@Ko700el pretty sure he means the posts that have random words misspelled in the captions, not actual memes making fun of misspelling. Like when someone uses the wrong "their, they're or there"

The nerds of internet.

@@renatobauer2390 troll bot 4,000

who is the villain of the show? Yes

Literally

@@renatobauer2390 Ohh of course they are son

@@Zuernaxashyr So?

Um this is in line with her character.. She did a similar thing on the books where she broke out and spoke to the writer.

@UCIxusgGvAo63pJNSy2jXB9g Yeah but it works with comics, not that well in the mcu.

@@Zuernaxashyr so a random ass strong green girl is literally God in her universe. What a shit gimmick

The real She Hulk isn't a Karen

The writers are the villains for the show, but K.E.V.I.N. is also the villain for approving this incoherent, waste of time, insulting mess of a show. A smear on his "near perfect" record

The real answer is the Americans

Nerds like angry jou

Can you give me the time stamps, I feel too cringe to watch the entire review.😵‍💫

@@marekjanik9962 you woke

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Omg your right? The show is trying to make intelligentsia look like a group of complaining A holes. But they are entirely right? Jesus christ I can't believe this show.

No Intelligencia is after her is because she is a woman who got powers and they don't like a woman with power. And she didn't get anything handed to her at the end, she argued her point well and convinced K.E.V.I.N. through a cogent and logical argument. I feel like we weren't watching the same show @Nathan Smith... I mean we were, but perspective matters me thinks.

@@TheMsLourdes they literally said she did nothing to earn her powers. And you say she deserved her ending because she argued her point well? Jesus christ your a total sheep she nearly killed a guy and destroyed public property and was put on probation. Abomination used his powers and gets sent back to jail for 10 years. However she hulk not only escapes all responsibility for her actions she is praised escapes jail time and gets her job back. How does that makes sense and how is that fair to Abomination?

@@TheMsLourdes i agree Perspective does matter. It also helps for flexibility when a person tries to bend over for a bilionare company

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Joe stole Jens character arc.

FACTS!

Joe hasn’t realized that it’s pretty easy to see something is going to be shit within a half hour lol

He goes through the whole hero's journey

@@alexschneider8494 joe just wants to review it thoroughly. Give it the benefit of the doubt before it’s over. After all, you can’t decide how something is until it’s over.

The little boy can finally cry wolf! YAY NIHILISM

Did everyone stand up and clap?

Bro told his barber "just fuck me up"

@@makutas-v261 Man got hit with the, "I like yo cut G."

> I was in tears. My eyes still sting. That's how hard I was laughing. r/thatHappened, you psychopath

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True character growth lol, Alex's takes are usually on point though.

So in conclusion the fans were right. She hulk was as bad and sexist as every single one of them predicted.

To be fair a lot of genuine weirdo's were giving them unconstructive and unhelpful "criticism" at the time. Some people unironically argued that this show could never be good because it starred a woman in the main role. Whenever or not those people were plants from Disney to make the actual criticism seem less legit by association is a topic for another day, (we know from Sony that corporations aren't above that) but I appreciate that these guys didn't immediately assume the worst and were willing to give it a fair shake, when they eventually conclude that its trash, it gives us a paper trail of reasonable fans rejecting this drivel because its pandering, poorly written drivel.

@@QuietRage the problem is that AJ lumped all the negative comments into the same bunch. Just look how AJ was facepalming on this vid when he realized that he did exactly what Alex is saying that tje writers were doing, calling ever critic an Incel, and other shit like that. There were more people pointing valid criticism in the comments than tbe "weirdos". The show laid its cards from even before it premiered. Giving it a chance was a fools errand.

@@Hecatom He will do the same for the Acolyte and The Marvels. Watch.

Yeah I don’t get it because it’s not even entertaining stupid or funny. It’s just completely stupid

@@yahyah797 they're trying to be self aware and mask their mistakes with humor because in their echo chamber, that's what they all do because they can't take actual criticism and everyone just laughs WITH each other and no one is really corrected. This results in what you see.

​@@Dravianpn02 lamp shading is a technique that many failed to utilize

And they think they were being based or edgy but they only showed us how salty and butthurt they really were 😂.

“What I’m doing is stupid, I know it’s stupid but I’m gonna do it anyway.” - Mr. Enter

That’s what actually had me close to rage 😂😂😂 I was like wtf no pay off no cool last episode fight no nothing we just got some internet trolls arrested

The writers should be blacklisted from working on any high profile projects. I don't know how these writers still get work... Any good writers deserve ALL the money for their work.

I miss comic she hulk😭

@@LouSassol69er Jessica Gao said she was rejected by Marvel three times before this. Now we know why Dana Schwartz has been bitter and mad at fans because her She-Hulk comics werent liked and didnt sell. So now we see why this show was made the way it was.

@@budgiecat9039 I don't know about that. I think it's dumb executives that don't care about the products they make and just making their quota content delivery for Disney+.

Haters gonna Hate, I found it funny, She hulk used to talk to her writers about the plots all the time in the comic books. If it was Deadpool you lot would find it "SO META 🤯 OMG" She-Hulk just the hate-flavor of the month.

@@WannabeWryter Are you one of the shows writers? :D

@@WannabeWryter default clown 🤡 🤓

@@WannabeWryter I feel sorry for you and your caretakers.

@@WannabeWryter oh shutup you feminist literally the only reason you like it is cause it’s a female lead. That’s it. Please tell me what we’re the funny jokes ? I’ll wait. She’s a rip off of Bruce literally all her moves are derived of Bruce but as a sad excuse of it. She literally says “ she hulk smash “ and tries to mock his slogan lol ohhh I’m gonna copy what he does but add in “she” to remind every one I’m a woman and I do it better. She literally told Bruce she’s better than him the second she got powers. This show was set up as an attempt to replace the hulk… meanwhile all the fight scenes sucky he villains suck and are jokes. Bad fight choreography the highlight of the show was Daredevil lol. You’re Braid dead if you think the writing is good. Writing is so bad the writers made fun of themselves… as the finale. You can call us haters all you want I rather be that than a d-rider who is delusional

Like Deadpool? Oh wait, he's a man, nevermind.

@@toshtao1 One is funny the other is not.

@@toshtao1 Deadpool jokes about the plots of his movies, she legit broke out of her show to go talk to the writers and then went to their manager to make demands of changing the plot, these two things are very different

@@MrHellweasel Look we get you see woman as property and not people but you need to seek counseling for your alt-right bullshit. She-Hulk 1 was doing fourth wall breaks LONG before Deadpool was a thing. 2. She literally said to the "Writers" what all the fans and viewers have been saying for literal years. So you are just complaining that the show took the hot air out of your sails so you have nothing to complain about.

No, because she literally just broke down what the fans have been saying for a couple of years now and being the original character who can break the fourth wall (and yes she did it well before Deadpool was a thing) it makes sense for HER character to notice those complaints. And given that she has literally in the comics done the aside to the writers its actually SOURCE ACCURATE for her to do that. And yes in the comics she has done that many times, fuck half her cases in the comics uses the comics to get people off from being accused. Literally use a specific MARVEL comic to clear her clients name. But you lot are kinda pathetic and if its a woman doing it, its suddenly bad. Your mothers must hate you.

You forgot acceptance. He accepts that this show is garbage :)

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@@jamesmayle3787 🤡

Bruh these bible thumpers are going HARDDD these past couple of years.

"I intentionally made 90% of the show bad so the last 10% can complain that those episodes were bad." "But if most of the show is bad, why would people watch it?" "No, no, no. The point... Is that it's bad on purpose." "Yeah. So it's still bad." "But we're aware that it's bad." "That doesn't make it being bad tolerable? In fact, that just makes it worse." "I don't think you're getting it." "I don't want to get it, it sucks."

That is basically what happened the writers being self aware that it’s bad which is very strange

I wouldn't hold my breath

Can't salvage a turd

And yet after all that there are still some people who dare calling male fans "pathetic" 🤡🤡🤡

Think of the levels of narcissism it takes to write yourselves into a show with absolutely no foundation whatsoever for doing so.

This was literally carbon copied from the source material. You incels are insufferably pathetic.

@@damvid21 kinda like that Obama meme

What if deadpool did it

Is it the actual writers and not just actors?

Joe is slowly realizing what the woke agenda is and why it's the worst thing ever created. He's finally putting it together that 99% of the people who hate this crap aren't neckbearded incels but regular people who hate woke politics. It's taken him forever but he's rounding the corner.

I mean yall getting mad at the show for the exact thing they're doing kinda proves its point abit tho doesn't it? Even the whole 4th wall breaking is ironic

@@CGCentralHD So us being mad that the show is “Intentionally” Burning dogshite, means that we are wrong. Dude the Show is bad just admit it.

@@devildolphin2102 was reffering to show itself just what was being said as far as 4th wall breaks go

@@devildolphin2102 also never said the show was great lol

The thing is, there's a way to make that work though. The writers just straight up weren't able to execute it well

that doesn't make any sense. the entire point of the 4th wall break was a visual representation of jumping the hurtle of her character arc that she's been too stubborn to do the whole show. Usually in the comics She-hulks main villain or conflict is the story being told, having her always have to physically talk to the creators of character or the writer of the comic themselves disputing with logistics at the source of the problem what needs to be resolved. her fighting away all of the physical bad guys in the scene would've been a complete waste of the episode considering that her biggest strength has always been omnipotence and perception of self.

EXACTLY!! I'd say that most of this show is just fighting itself over what it's identity actually is. I think at the beginning they planned it out as a classic law show with some super hero hijinks sprinkled in, kind of like a family friendly Netflix Daredevil, but the show itself got mired between; future MCU plans and references, the meta-commentary and a feminist direction, just wrecked the show and made it confusing and ridiculously messy. I think Tatiana is a good pick for the character, but is constantly being held back by a ridiculous amount of B-plots, that the writers had no idea how to deal with. Disney knows people love Abomination, Wong and Daredevil but just throw them in as if they were checking items off a list. In an ideal world this show would've been a classic 2 hour super-hero movie, sum up the first episode in 20 minutes followed by Jen failing to have a normal life and ultimately fusing her Jen and she-hulk personas, just being a sassy fun lawyer while taking down bad guy's from time to time. This show has the same issue the Supergirl show has with Superman, where they're literally just riding the coat tails of their more iconic counterpart.

Such a crap take. She lost her job, her ability to transform, had to move back in with her parents. Her hulk out in the last episode was controlled as hell, anyone who could have smashed that screen rather than have someone see their sextape would do so. There's also a hilarious irony that if she had smashed through a wall to detain a bad guy you'd praise the hulkness of it all. Where an out of control Hulk would have just straight up merced the dude last episode, she grabbed him, saw that the world around her was not condoning her actions and stopped. Like we saw Hulk attack Widow on the helicarrier when he lost it, and she probably only survived because of who she is and Thor intervening. She would have learnt nothing as a character if she just then beat up all the badguys after finding them at the end. It was always going to be pursuing it legally, which is why when she jumps the fourth wall the story changes. Fighting the characters would have actually been a terrible conclusion to that arc because It would reinforce the idea that hulk smashing the bad guys is the way to get things done. Which conveniently is the exact thing your ragging on her for having done. Because at one point she made a comment about how she controls her anger more than Bruce does. (That incident with Widow happened 5 years post transformation, where he hid from the world because he couldn't manage himself) If She-hulk had the anger problems of hulk, when attacked in the street those guys would be dead, when her car got ruined at Emil's she would have beat the crap out of them. And instead of getting angry about the big fight and beating everyone up and then turning them over to the cops afterwards she instead said "Wait this is stupid" and took a path that allowed her to play to Jen's strengths with She-Hulk providing muscle protection. You might not like it, but it did a far better job of letting Jen be Jen than any fight would have. (And if there wasn't a fight or event like this, you'd still be complaining)

@@rangerofalinos What did she learn as a character?

@@rangerofalinos "She lost her job, her ability to transform, had to move back in with her parents." in TEN minutes worth of the show and then they moved on. She super learned a lesson here X_x

No, but that would have involved the intrigue of the mobsters going after her, Jen proactively seeking justice for herself and others, and worst of all, Bruce having a character arc!

This ending has legitimately made me excited for WHATEVER marvel comes next. I need to wash the taste out of my mouth idc if its with toilet water at this point

@@narusora1 are you excited for the next marvel project because it's Black Panther 2 and as we all know if you're white you can't watch it thankfully for me I'm middle eastern so I'm not allowed to watch it I swear to God that's what's going to be said on twitter

@@norouziman8748 LMFAO im black. That movie is for marvel's strongest representation of blacks but it is open for everyone to watch and enjoy haha. Don't be discouraged!

@@narusora1 see I have this feeling just a feeling that the actress will pull a brie Larson and claim that the movie is for black people only and honestly if I could trust marvel to make good movies and shows then I would give it a try I managed to watch The Room without turning it off so that's saying something

@@norouziman8748 I feel you, they've made great movies before and black panther 2 looks promising; and lmfao that'll happen, I wouldn't give it any attention hahaa

They did it because the writers had no idea what to do

That’s his own fault we’ve been trying to tell him that the show was irredeemable

@@joshgamingvlogs5203 but thats the point of the show, i keep hearing this from lovers of the show, it trolled us fans and we fell for it, it was bad n purpose and that is the brillance of it apparently

@@Hunterese123 if that is supposed to be brilliant, then we should stop making movies and tv shows

@@joshgamingvlogs5203 Hey now, in all fairness to Joe, despite his trademark, he's always been one for giving the benefit of the doubt trying to see the good in something rather than always seeing the bad, I'll admit this show was a dumpster fire, but Joe gave it a fair chance which is more than what can be said for those that hadn't even bothered.

@@joshgamingvlogs5203 I think his opinion is mildly more valuable because he did try. He's doing a review, and the most honest way to do a review is to put personal feelings and expectations aside and give the show a fair shot. Though people can disagree with his opinion, they can't question his integrity.

I wonder if he still stands by his shit opinions of earlier episodes

Or from an alternate POV, Joe starting out as a normal boy but then letting the Barrage Of The Incels get to him from the comment section every week, now *that* is heartbreaking

@@johnnypopstar oh you mean people that were absolutely right?

@@john_squatson no, because they weren't. It's only this manosphere crowd that hate this show this much.

@@johnnypopstar sure, sure... I'm sure everybody else just loves it

Agreed wholeheartedly

He had the best take on the show overall.

He’s usually the more critical one on the group when it comes to reviewing films and video games, and that can be refreshing compared to Joe’s straightforward take on some franchises. They all bring different views to a review.

Sober Mouth Joe has high enough estrogen that he was actually able to enjoy the show.

Which is funny, because I usually hate that Alex is so "brutal" toward shows that I actually think are good. But this time around, I was actually looking forward to him tearing this show a new a$$hole.

I mean it is her show, why wouldn't it revolve around her? Which show did you think you were watching?

@@supraaznpride By "revolve around her" I mean that everything has to be perfect for her, she doesn't have to apologize for anything or deal with the consequences of her actions. Everything bad that happens to her is framed as not her fault. Even in the end, they let her off the hook for destroying private property and putting a whole audience of people in danger just because the reason she got angry was justified. As if Bruce didn't get in severe trouble for getting angry for legitimate reasons. And it's not like they didn't know the reason she got angry was legitimate from the start. What changed? She caught the guy who triggered her anger, cool, so what? She still put people in danger. The world has to bend over to make her happy ending, she doesn't really learn anything, there is no arc other than her ending up liking her Hulk powers, but there's no growth beyond that.

@@tubguinace Well the tone of the show was a lighter one on purpose so of course the reactions to her hulking out ain't quite on the same level as the Norton hulk with him fighting against the military and destroying whole cities. Plus in this universe now, powerful beings are dime a dozen and half the population can die at anytime anyways. But it's mostly the tone of the show, which is sillier than any marvel stuff before it. If they were going for a dramatic action show sure they would've sent in the US army for her and she would've learned her lesson the blood and guts way. Jen's character felt more relatable as a reluctant hero all the way to the end. Should she have suffer a major lost and sacrafice at the end with an epic battle and really learn how to be a real hero just like the hulk? I mean if it was trying to do that, but I don't think they did so it then comes down to if you think the MCU is so sacred that it can't deviate from the formula at all. If you're on that camp then yeah She-Hulk is like what the f are they doing? But if you enjoy the fun silly stuff and relieved that after 20 years of the same-ish stuff they can take things not so seriously then there are little problems with the show itself. It's not perfect even in that regard, but if you try to watch the She-Hulk as if it were any other Marvel property you can find TONS of things that are wrong.

just like in the comic book named after her and about her

@@supraaznpride If you want your characters to be relatable to the audience, you don't make everything revolve around them. Relatable characters react to the world around them much like how we react to the world around us. If you make it so that it is the other way around where the world is reacting to the character, it become completely unrealistic to the viewer and makes it impossible for anyone to relate to the character because in reality the world does not revolve around us.

That was so good.

But that’s it tho.

That was the best part of the show sadly

When you don't understand what was said because you are shut off to it...doesn't mean nothing was said. You'd have to be actually fuckin stupid to say the show didn't make a point. She Hulk gets put into a marvel plotting machine, the show symbolically positions what She Hulk represents as it pertains to the female leads relationship with rage and how society percieves feminine anger, and then from that position the finale unpacks how the Marvel machine is unable to pay off the themes of the show BECAUSE of the tropes within Marvel's traditional plot structure. And like EVERY fuckin Marvel property before it...the deep themes do not pay off because Marvel needs you to have a baddy to beat up and She Hulk stops it...and then says it's not about the villains, the incels and mysoginist commentators on the internet, it is about her and how society percieves her. It shouldn't be about THEM...but due to Marvel's trope structure it cannot resolve without being about them being wrong and not simply tell a story about She Hulk. The show is about how Marvel cannot present deep themes precisely because of its limited tools to tell stories. She Hulk as a CHARACTER has always been meta and why ANYONE would fuckin rage in such as childish way as Alex did is TELLING about how deeply unequipped schools are in giving children media literacy. But no, ya'll are too fueled with rage to even provide the patience to meet the show on its own terms...probably because ya'll have internalized mysoginy but are too fuckin stupid to even know what that is or how it manifests and be too busy making yourself the victim of feminism to see what you may be doing wrong in all this. But I'll just get raged at by 14 year old brain grown ass men who feel attacked and belittled and just somehow pivot how the show is just "dumb" but conveniently lack the tools to enumerate why other than subjective baseless value framing. The shit take machine of the internet keeps on turning and even when the show POINTS IT OUT ya'll just literally prove the show right.

@@magvad6472 Yeah, that's not it, chief.

@@zenmindgamer then "what is it, chief"....because it seems like it might just be going over your head and if you admit it's something as basic as what I said you might be coming off like a liar or someone who can't read basic themes.

@@magvad6472 Honestly, I think you totally didn't understand the essay analogy. I didn't say there are no themes in "She-Hulk"; the themes that are there simply go nowhere. So this will be my last long-form reply unless you have something intelligible to say, like what themes you thought were complex and thoroughly explored. Overall, I'd say "She-Hulk" is about self-agency. There's not an episode that goes by where people aren't restricting Jen because of who she is, what she is, and what her career is, and she gets shoehorned into a lot of roles that are beyond her choice: she's turned into a Hulk by accident, she's fired from her job for doing the right thing and unceremoniously put in charge of what's essentially a freak-show department at her new firm, and she's constantly undercut by guys in her sex life who are into She-Hulk but not Jen. The first episode sets up this conflict of recognizing agency when Bruce tells Jen that she'll need to be responsible for her anger, to which she blows up that she, and women like her, are already masters of their anger because they need to measure their interactions on a daily basis. The show had an excellent theme established right there that could have been explored as Jen not having that level of agency she believed she already did. There's a lot going on that tries to challenge her agency throughout the season, but then doesn't follow-up with any consequences with those sequences that challenge her. At her friend's wedding Jen is told not to transform into She-Hulk because it will ruin the bride's day, the bride herself is an absolute monster whose toxic behavior causes employees to quit so she dumps clean-up duty onto Jen, further attacking Jen's agency. When Jen finally does transform Jen doesn't call out her friend's toxic behavior and there's no penalty on her friend's behavior - if anything she's rewarded as she gets to claim being buddies with She-Hulk. Then we have Jen undercutting her own agency and lamenting about it. If "She-Hulk" is about self-expression and self-agency then those themes are undercut by Jen's dating life. Jen constantly complains that she can't get a man to be committed to her, though advertises her profile like an easy sale for a one-night stand. If "She-Hulk" truly wanted to say something groundbreaking they could have let her be a horny player, but acting like one and chasing after men for a sense of fulfillment directly contradicts her self-agency that the show is trying to establish. There is absolutely nothing wrong about a woman who enjoys playing the field, but don't double-back on that behavior by having the main character act shocked she can't find a guy who wants to commit to her. Unironically, my favorite episode is actually the therapy retreat. This is the closest Jen gets to realizing that she's been letting other people control her agency and undercut her sense of authority over her life and desires. It's honestly a great episode for anybody who does get hung-up on people easily that they need to remember that we aren't defined by the people in our lives, but that they are companions. I honestly didn't expect Emil Blonsky/Abomination to have genuinely insightful wisdom. This episode is the closest that "She-Hulk" gets to stating a thesis statement that ties together the rest of Jen's experiences thus far. However, this is undercut in the finale, and Emil Blonsky himself no less, when Emil is acting as a motivational speaker to an incel group. Abomination, the dude whose entire message is about taking responsibility for one's actions and not letting the world project or define your role in it, is whipping up these incels to recognize their problems stem externally and to rectify that. Jen's own development arc is thrown out the window as she defaults to the know-it-all attitude she showed with Bruce in episode one as she confronts K.E.V.I.N. What we do agree on is that if the finale had resulted in a massive battle it would have played exactly against the themes, because it's forcing Jen to act as a fighter, however even this would have been a better ending because we see Jen clearly distraught that she's no longer allowed to become She-Hulk so this is a statement of her choosing that power, choosing that agency. As the lawyer I genuinely wanted Jen to take Intelligencia down the legal route, but all that is thrown out by a lowering of the curtain and a new set reveal. Jen goes on having gotten her way in every single thread the finale setup, but without actually having done the work to make it so. One can say that happened behind the scenes when Marvel fixed the show's conclusion, which I get is the meta of the 4th wall, but to have so sloppily handled the context of the theme up to this point "She-Hulk" could have benefitted from an episode with some actual sleuthing.

@@zenmindgamer bro, appreciate the work, beautiful essay, but you made 1 HORRENDOUS mistake by thinking that these defenders can even read.

The marvel fans are toxic, they are literally talking about the fans that exist

@AnonymousNoname they definitely will

@AnonymousNoname Feige signs off on everything. He knew what the show was and green lit it. They will work again.

Thou shalt not question or criticize those that rule over you or else! Just look at Kayne.

So hollywood in a nutshell.

so the ajs's job is to watch the show. what's your excuse?

Twitter? Nah just mcu fan boys that like cotton candy bs so most of Joe's fan base to be honest.

​@@vietimports he never said he watched the show. maybe he's looks up clips on youtube. or watches reviews so he doesn't have to lose brain cells.

@@vietimports You don't need to watch the series all the way through to know it's garbage at this point

Those are just idiots who know the actual comic. Smart people who never read the comic hate the show.

No she retconned it. I thought that was pretty obvious. Guy that shamed her got arrested and then she was absolved of her crimes, look its dumb, just like the entire series. And as a she hulk fan its annoying but who cares its a badly written show it wont get good ratings. No point complaining about it.

She pulled a Karen.

@@expressrobkill "no point in complaining" is probably right lol. The more people complain, the more MCU doubles down thinking theyre in the right and continueto make dumb shit. They actually turned the critics into villains in this show, then they ironically turned themselves (the writers) into villains, then even more ironically, had Jen, the indirect mouthpiece of the writers (until she faced them) talk about how bad the MCU has become and they shitted on the classic characters and Kevin Feige himself. Wtf happened here lmao

@@expressrobkill why are you all acting like she murdered 1,000s of children... she broke some flat screens and stopped some dude clearly dressed as a bad guy for a few seconds. What do you want, her to do a 5 year stint in prison for that?

@@expressrobkill but she LITERALLY slept with a dude that stole her blood and ghosted her. Did that not happen now? Lmao But let’s just film a bunch of stuff, then at the end say, we duck, and that’s the point! So if you hate it because we wanted you to have it we hate you! Makes TOTAL SENSE🤦

Yeah, the show needed more dragons and incest!

Well said

Even Abed new that you can't go too meta. There is a limit to how meta you can be

Meta humor is fine up until it breaks your investment in a show.

Not everyone can be Deadpool She hulk in the comics did it but not anymore Disney rejects ruin characters for their ego boosts

No. Captain marvel is still the worse. I honestly rather deal with She hulk then Captain Marvel. At least Jen Tries to be funny and likeable.. Captain Marvel is just boring and bad. I had one reaction with CM when I finished watching it. Wtf was that? At least with Jen I laughed a few times.

@@MagumoKawasaki are u guys refering to ms marvel or captain marvel?

@@woodcutte330 Captin marvel, is horrible in the MCU. Ms marvel, is at least charming in her own fan girl way. Just sucks that she stans the worse Hero.

@@MagumoKawasaki that is your opinion

Honestly I kinda wished we weren't, I was hoping the first episode would be the worse one and they would actually give proper character development like Joe thought they would do.

@@tomfoolery7797 yeah, 'cause that's what a show's supposed to do. even in sitcoms there's room for character growth. but nah, that's... sexist to them, I guess? saying a female character is flawed and should learn something, I mean. I've been off Twitter for 2 years, but I bet there's arguments like that.

Slight correction, "Right for the wrong reasons."

We were always right he's just too busy smelling his own farts not to see it. Now he got proven wrong as usual. Nothing new rinse and repeat.

@@ignis2023 nope. We were right because we saw the misandry from episode 1. 🤷🏻‍♂️

The idea was creative but should’ve happened like in the 2nd or 3rd episode, like you said they just used it as a get out of jail free card instead of it being a funny or meta 4th wall break. It was just stupid and them excusing terrible writing is what it felt like. Felt like they knew the show sucked but didn’t have time to fix it so they smacked this on at the end as a “haha we did it on purpose!”

“Every minute you’ve spent was a meaningless nonsensical waste of time, join us for season 2!”

@@yahyah797 the idea was creative??? What? Lol

@@Revan-eb1wb this episode was a “own” to “the trolls and haters” and just became an effigy to their own wokist shitbaggery and how fucking shit they are theres nothing meta about this its something they did late into people giving reactions to the series becausw they are fart huffing snowflake loons the series could of been glossed over or just forgotten or maybe salvaged later w mcu tie in or next season w dif writers but this last episode was an insult to everyone and admittance they hate the character and fans

@@Nomadic_Gaming the show is embarrassing in every way. And by the way, you hit the nail on the head

The slow motion red-pilling of AJS has been interesting to watch.

Being better than she show? Doesn't say a whole lot. Watching grass grow would be more interesting

Yeah, I wish the show was longer too.

@@rebel4466 they're both green, bet it'd be hard to notice a difference 👀

@@MarkHarrison-bo3kf if it was an hour, that'd be approximately 270 extra hours of suffering. If I can be truthful, I only saw twerking, "infinitely better than you!", and the whole Daredevil episode... Enough to let me know this show is an actual waste of time.

@@theJuicmanisbak I agree!

Nice, Lucky you, I haven’t seen the last episode and I don’t plan too.

Same 😂

Lol 😂 i

I actually watched the first episode and have not watched the rest but have been watching the reviews for the exact same reason these reviews are definitely better than the actual show lmao

I already had this feeling while watching Captain Marvel. Yes Disney/Marvel, it's cool to make strong characters but you also have to make them endearing and fallible. Without that they don't even look human and if they can defeat everyone there's nothing interesting to tell.

@@Gonzora people loved Cap because despite his strength, he was so human. He wanted more than he had and got way more than he bargained for.

Imagine needing or wanting an apology from a person on the internet lol

@@Trocify225 Nah, don't need anything, just an observation that Joe should embrace a mistake. Just like your parents embrace you.

@@Trocify225 no one is telling him to apologize. What people are saying is that, once again, Joe eats his own words after lashing out.

@@Trocify225 The dude made a whole video after the first episode making fun of his own audience just to defend this trash. He should eat his words for that.

Unlike you, the man was willing to give the show a shot. Did it suck yes, but at least the man went in with a wait and see approach and didn't flip out immediately. I swear the anti-sjw crowd is as soft and at times more than the sjw crowd.

I know right wtf. I keep seeing people talk about how awsome the ending was.

Twitter moment

@@deandredunbar9618 well they can have opinions right?

Twitter is not a real place

Do you think people on Twitter wouldn't take the opportunity to lie out their ass out of spite? They're clearly lying anyone who watched it knows that, which is par for the course on Twitter.

I've seen loads of feminists types loving the show, pretty sure it's made for that type of woman.

@@saiyaniam Did they actually watch it though? Or are they just liking twitter clips and clapping along?

It ruined my day because it pissed me off.

It's stunning and brave

It literally destroyed the whole Marvel universe being in it's own thing. In maybe another show/universe, with like better characters, this would have been great, but this is the entire MCU. What a joke.

Do you think other shows are more real than this one? Rofl

Why do you keep watching the shows and wasting your time when they consistently put out things that you don’t like

Because it is a live action cartoon, it's deliberate, in fact the show would have improved if it was animated.

Or maybe, and hear me out on this, it’s a live action version of a comic book.

@@Phanthief95 Have you read any good comics in the past few decades? They're far more fleshed out and "real" than any of the characters presented in this live-action show. Most good comics will know when to turn down the goofiness for balanced storytelling. Even the She-Hulk run that this series is "inspired by" knew when to tone down its comedy for character growth or conflict. Instead of regurgitating excuses for a billion-dollar corporation's vanity projects, maybe educate yourself and read the source material you claim to be a fan of.

@@Phanthief95 or maybe, and hear me out on this, it’s a garbage version of a live action version of a comic book.

@@numberoftheword He had more vision than the writers

The Bible is truth. Please do these four steps. They have an accumulative healing effect on your soul and will open your spiritual eyes. Forgive your parents, break down before Jesus Christ, ask for forgiveness, and read Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself. Please, I know it seems strange, but it is all true. You just need to be genuine. Open your heart. That’s what makes it all click. Especially the forgiveness part. To be forgiven we must forgive. Our parents have generally loved us. They’re supposed to be the easiest people to forgive. It shows something important to God if you do your inner work Jesus Christ laid out. Not forgiving is what keeps Go at arm’s length. Please trust me. Jesus Christ is Lord.

So in conclusion the fans were right. She hulk was as bad and sexist as every single one of them predicted.

@@jamesmayle3787 no

Self reflection, humility, growth? Blessed be, a human being🙏

" learning from his mistakes and being humbled. " I dont know, Alex still seems kind of arrogant to me.

@@functionatthejunction maybe because you don't agree with him? That doesn't mean he is arrogant

Tune in next MCU show for another season of The Hamster of Disappointment!

Best redemption arc.

@@Ian-fy6lc you're not wrong

No! There is no good! Only tears!

Dangling keys...

It wasn't a joke or parody they deadass copied and pasted that original intro that's why it was great

@@_ripVanWinkle_ Let's call it a pastiche. Or an hommage.

Its like a weird sex selection darwin thing. If you can't get laid, something must be wrong with you so people will shun you so you don't get a chance to infect the gene pool or something. The smarter we get as a species the easier it is to see the animal.

It’s the ‘Funny Games’ or ‘Freddy got Fingered’ of the MCU, there really is no other way to explain it. It had to be a big middle finger to “Kevin.”

Ya, I liked some of the series but this was a piss off. They literally wrote the cringe into it on purpose for this ending. Dragged down the rest of it all… for this!

Out of all the reasons I fell in love with the MCU as a kid, it attempting to school me on modern social commentary isn’t one of them. The idea of this show is so wildly uninteresting to me I haven’t even bothered to watch it. I guess it kinda sucks this is what they’re spending time and resources on but oh well I no longer care enough to be mad.

I mean yeah they took jabs and joked about everyone even feigie himself

11/10 -ign

Now you know who the Marvel chills are and whose opinion you can avoid.

When I saw the finale and how people were praising the episode, even i thought that I am losing my mind but then to restore my sanity I watched the Incredible Hulk movie.

This final episode was good the problem is the rest of the show is garbage so it's feels so out of place because I actually laughed in this episode but something in me feels uncomfortable for enjoying it because it started to be funny in the last episode and actually kinda clever but everyone on that writing team should be fired embarrassing

@@leecameron9226 the final episode is not good lmao. The only “good” thing is that it’s over

I haven't seen all of them cringe this much especially Joe.

they didn't even make him gray

He looks like he has his hair pulled back, after looking at it again

they gave him male pattern baldness

How can u get trolled by a show u don't even watch lol... wait, PLEASE tell me no one is ACTUALLY wasting their life on ANYTHING Disney has put out since before phase 3

@@skull2470 that even worst

That would take talent.

​@@luhedi6303 they'd have to know what laws are

This is what I wanted. Not the old fourth wall breaking comics but the competent lawyer she became in the comics. Then the later her Hulk powers going out of control in modern times. Wasted potential all over.

That would take actual writers.

Agreed love these guys

Or you can watch and form your own opinion

​@@ThrghmyEyeZZ sometimes it's better yea but most of the times reviews are helpful in helping you save your time, otherwise everyone would waste their time with every piece of shit movie or show ever

@@EggEnjoyer Also, that's apparently the only thing they know about her character.

@@65firered true

@@EggEnjoyer self awareness is fine if it’s done in a subtle and moderately humble approach. But this just took it too far

That's the ONLY thing about her character they took from the comics. She's pretty much the opposite in many aspects.

Oh I did not expect the Astral Birth Void to be here. Hi!

It’s a fun moment but the fact that it ACTUALLY CHANGED ruins the entire show even further. Because the rest of the show meant nothing if there were no actual consequences or stakes. The idea that she breaks the fourth wall and realizes that despite things being messy she needs to deal with them and work through them because sometimes life is tough and unfair could’ve been interesting. But instead they went the exact opposite route

To some extent? She always does it in the comics! Does no one in this comment section do a Google search? She’s been doing it longer than Deadpool has!

​@@Phanthief95 and look at the reception to Deadpool and the reception to shehulk and tell me with a straightface who is more of a beloved character and is actually funny.

Because he hated the hate watchers, but makes money on them. He overestimated how many views he would get.

Same. I'm not sticking around, BUT I will watch the M-She-U burn in the dumpster fire and watch it go out with a whimper. No Way Home out of everything in Phase 4 (presumably), is the only thing that's considered Phase 3 in my eyes. After that, everything else is garbage.

Seeya.

We all know you'll be back

It’s been like this since End Game. You just now realize? It’s only going to get worse as they destroy more of the franchise.

You forgured it out now? This dumpster fire's been burning since endgame