The Galor is an AK-47: Its not fancy, but its rugged, reliable, does its job effectively and will be around for decade after decade, because no one has designed anything better for it particular role

With the Galor and later Keldon, the Cardassians finally were beginning to close the gap between them and the Federation, albeit while crawling over the course of 30-40 years. But then the Borg and Dominion appeared so Starfleet leapt out of bed and sprinted all the way to the likes of the Sovereign and Prometheus in the span of 4 years. You can't help but pity the Cardassians a little. _"The fruits of victory __-are-__ were tumbling into __-our-__ their mouths too quickly."_

It sounds like it was the Cardassian's "Excelsior" class.

And just think: If the Federation wasn't so arbitrary with it's application of the Prime Directive, then there would be no Galor.

love the Cardassians one of my favourite races in trek, always liked the design of the Galor class, does not get enough love I think , with thanks ! .

I'd really like to see a 3-D interior tour of a Galor Class ship.

With some technology upgrades, these were excellent ships. Before they had to operate in pairs,etc to not be outclassed. Odd that it looked like their insignia vs being designed for functionality.

Such creativity with Cardassians! I always find your videos to be compelling!

The Cardassians had a ship that could match the Excelsior. When your benchmark for success is the keeping up with a cruiser that your adversary build 70 years ago...

Sisko: "Power up your engines and prepare to follow us back to DS9" Dukat: "An excellent suggestion captain, assuming we had any engines left!" That Galor took a pasting but was still intact :)

The Galor reminds me of the German Panzer(s). It was a tank designed from a rapid modernization program to match those mainstays of it's British, French, and Soviet counterparts and then mass produce them; in many ways they succeeded right up until the 1943/44 where they would end up being overwhelmingly outnumbered by M4 Sherman and T-34s. Akin to the Galors, being overwhelmed by Starfleet ships like the Akira, the Dominion-war-variant Nebula, or a zerg rush consisting of thousands of Excelsiors.

The Galor Class is iconic. As much as the D7, and Constitution classes.

The Galor class Crusier is definitely 1 of my favourite Star Trek Ships

I could see the top module part of the ship being able to separate and act as a life boat in case of emergencies.

I've always loved the Galor class. I play one in STO, the Kraxon.

In a realistic way the Galor Class would be truly valuable in an actual war fleet. It is sturdy, upgradeable, has good firepower and easy to mass produce. While Starfleet is cool because of all the specialist classes of ship, it is a hinderance in war time to support and to build so many variants. Moreover, unlike Romulan and Klingon heavies, that are so cool, and generally seen as superior, the Cardassians don't put all their eggs in ambush tactics by putting 90% of their firepower forward. So while a ship like the Vorcha is a superior ship in many ways, clearly the Galor lends itself to mass production which is in itself a quality of its own. It does the Klingons little good if the Vorcha is 50% more effective than a Galor when there are 10 Galors for every Vorcha. I always felt that the line in "Warriors of the Empire" belies the Cardassian tactics in fighting the Klingons: Force the Klingons to give away their positions by de-cloaking, whether via attacking a sensor ghost or whatever, use the superior numbers of Galors to Klingon capital ships by getting one on their tail as the Vorcha or K'Vorts chase the other and blast away as the Klingon ships have little aft, dorsal and ventral firepower (all we have seen is an aft torpedo launcher). Same tactic works against the Romulans. Force their hand, or misdirect their initial ambush volley, and then get out of their primary firing-arc and attack their rear. Moreover, the 360 firing-arcs of the Galor are particularly useful in formation fighting against enemies with lighter attack ships like the BoP. While a squadron of three Galors might use their heavy forward spiral-wave disruptor cannon against the Klingon capital ship in the battle, the medium disruptors/phasers on the rest of the Galors (one notes that the DS9 tech manual, and the ship models, feature an aft heavy spiral-wave disruptor cannon as well), while too light to do too much damage to a heavier ship, would be much more effective against the smaller B'Rel Class ships attacking from all directions, particularly when the formation can mass fires against one or two specific targets at a time.

It's a pretty good design for a local power. Problem with the Cardassians is that they are constantly trying to interject themselves as one of the prime players in galactic politics while not having the technology, economy, infrastructure, or even basic resources to compete with the actual galactic powers. The Cardassian Union definitely choked on its aspirations. Had it played a more ambiguous role between the Federation, Klingons, Romulans, and later the Dominion, they would've gained the necessary time to actually catch up.

This was really informative. I never realized the Keldon was just an upgrade on the Galor. I always though the Keldon was its own class and a superior successor to the Galor. 👍👍👍

A new video! This is a galorious day!

I can see the cardies designing and building this ship, even if starfleet have properly treated the conflict as a war, and not just an issue to deal with. That was very irresponsible of top leadership. Too many people died. Good video

Another story well told. Nice job!

I'm really enjoying your videos. You introduce so much more lore to these ships than other channels I normally watch. I'm learning things I never knew about. I also have a soft spot for the Cardassians as a faction. Something about their story in ST and their ship designs is really interesting to me.

Never ceases to amaze me how I miss so many of these great videos. I just found this one. Love the Cardassian ships, culture.

Cheers mate. Love your ship chats

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Think this is one of my favourite alien ships from star trek

Cardassians:Finally we have the best cruiser! Federation Galaxy class: HELLO THERE!

Cool

Ahaha. My favorite Star Trek voice is back! Awesome. I always thought that Cardassian space ships were a reflection of their sea ships. Like, they look like the 24th Century Cardassian equivalent of a Galleon. The big wings and overall shape fit for floating on a higher salt density sea.

nice video

Awesome! Thanks!

Love the Card ascetic

Another great video

That's the star ship I wanted mostly for me the galorclass warship. I want that cardassian ship.

From above it resembles an Angel Shark.

I prefer the keldon, but the galor is a thing of beauty as well. How many does it take to beat a Galaxy though? Three or five?

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I was under the impression that Cardassian tech isn't up to Federation tech, but still does the job. It takes 3 Galors to stand up to a Galaxy roughly, but those 3 Galors are cheaper to build and maintain than a Galaxy. Which is why they just scaled it up for the Keldon. But didn't the Excelsior kind of fall into a Universal role too? It really hung in there despite no longer being cutting edge.

Still after seeing Layton variant of the Excelsior class Command Light Cruiser like the Lakota I think the Galor got lucky still seen the improve Galor 4s take down 4 Intrepid class ships with Dominion weapons' but since Starfleet develop countermeasures to Dominion weapons' no longer effect against Federation shields really mess up the Type IV as at that point spamming out ships. You know I was thinking on Kelvin verse think what if the Galor face a 1500 meter long Excelsior class Destroyer of Kev 24th add in Starfleet move towards specialized ships and aware of the Dominion 100 years in advance add in the Borg threat thanks to Nero as Borg sense the Narada of course hit the Romulans first so we a side show as you know how much borg want future tech. Of course likely a Luna class Destroyer to the larger 3000 meter long Galaxies the star players plus proper and improve defenses will love to see the Cardies try it with a Federation having not slack off on defense improvements and armor.

Great video, but I always tend to visualize keldon as an intelligence ship rather than an assault ship. Those black panels on the sides should be sensor arrays utilized for intelligence gathering by the order

good video. Can you do battle of Tiery. (Deep space nine session 6 Ex 1.) Nothing known about this battle. :-).

It still blows my mind that you have a long running set of series in the Star Trek universe and after being in production for 6 years, the special effects guys still haven't got the memo that before they put in the flashy weapon effects that maybe it would be a good idea to ask the modelling guys where on the ship the beams and projectiles should come from. It is something that I have seen many times in Star Trek and it just makes me want to face-palm at the stupidity.

I blame you Sir Venom for my new love of all things Cardassian.

This is one of my favorite designs for any alien ship in Star Trek, but I've always though they were so weak as a front line flagship. They needed 2 or 3 to really challenge the big boys from any of the other fleets in the Federation. Why would they model their next generation starship in the 2350's after the Excelsior Class, when the Ambassador Class had entered service in the 2340's. Seems a bit backwards to base your primary combat cruiser after the last generation of enemy designs rather than try to match the newest capabilities. ALSO, the Excelsior Class is in my top 3 Federation Starships of all time so for me to call it inferior is striking in itself ;-)

To borrow a Pathfinder and or Dungeons and Dragons term a great ship to multiclass or gestalt with . Imagine if M5 type computer technology or a borgified version of a Galor universal cruiser would be like .

In DS9, I always thought that the Galors look really flimsy, with an almost papier-mache feeling to them. So what I've always assumed (not knowing anything about them during my first DS9 watch) it was a sort of glass cannon: Cardassians managed to match Starfleet on weapons and propulsion but the shields were mediocre and the armour was sub-standard to increase manoeuvrability. Anyway, those were my first impressions so I'm sort of surprised to see people calling it rugged.

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Economic power is the foundation of military power. If you are weak economically, it is economically more efficient to have a large number of a generalist class with specialist variants than several specialist classes. That way, you can take advantage of economies of scale in design, construction, maintenance and training. Today, no other Air Force (or Navy) has as many types of aircraft as the United States. It is rich enough to have all these specialized aircraft.

although I hate the whole modular design of ships like the nebula I think that the federation had a better idea of how to deal with a universal design than the cardies. while I like the galor as a ship I think that it was far overproduced, I think the reason some federation ship designs were effective because some were so rare and unseen that no one ever had chance to find any weakness in its design. the Cards made so many galors that its design flaws became apparent and exploitable. so while I like the concept of a universal cruiser you still need other ships in there to take some hits, the Cardassian navy in the dominion war was made up of practically 2 ship designs which means that any weakness could be exploited on mass while the Cardies would have to recall them to try and refit any problems out while other ships would be pushed forward to fill in the gaps, but they don't have any other ships to fill in the gap which leave a massive disparity in they navy. the while idea of a whole navy made up of a single ship means that they can be exploited, even the excelsior which I consider a universal cruiser wasn't produced to that extent and still had other ships that filled in the line.

It looks like a sarcophagus, which makes sense. Damn thing's a flying coffin.

I never knew there were so many ships in the canon

The stern seems like a scorpion and the eel thing makes sense. Egyptian is more like Klingon home world with pyramid buildings

It's a spiral wave disruptor it's more closely akin to a phaser the phasers that startfully used in the original excelsior the ball turret phasers but it's more powerful it's not as powerful as the Galaxy class is main phaser strip but they can't they upgrade them to be that powerful in the Dominion war with some Dominion technology

How come the nacelles on Cardassian ships are so small in comparison to the ships of the other major powers [Feds, Klingons, Romulans, even the Dominion) that have nacelles that are usually approximately half the length of the ship. And was there any performance disadvantages to having such small nacelles? Since from a defensive perspective having the nacelles unable to be targeted from the front, and small targets from other angles is a major advantage.

Tbh Excelsior and ambassador were probably universal cruisers already and had comparable capabilities

The militaristic mindset of the Cardassians shows in the weaponry, which is smartly implememnt, they just lack behind in overall technology when compared to first class powers. They would be possibly able to catch up with the next class, if they stayed out of the Dominion war, but the destruction in the last phase of the war brought massive economic problems, and I think that they will continue to limp behind others in the future. Nevertheless, the Galor is a very well thought through and competent ship.

best ship

Doesnt Guk' Dukat say "Ive never seen a Keldon class move so fast", he seems to think its a distinct class rather than module.

I‘m note sure if the ship can compete against an „Dominion War Excelsior Class“ like the USS Lakota. I could imagine, that the pimped Lakota can match a „Peace Times“ Nebula or Galaxy. And this classes are superior against the Galor Class. But if no idea how strong the from the Domion updated Galors are.

8:00 Bridge Commander lied to me...

I always considered the Keldon to be a luxury cruiser variant, kind of in the same way as a Galaxy, being overly expensive for a modest improvement in performance overall, except of course not being nearly on par with the Galaxy class. Thatd be ridiculous. But because of the expense involved most of them found their way to the Obsidian Order rather than being the typical frontline ships, and you practically never see them again during the Dominion war, because an excessively expensive ship like that really doesnt fit their doctrine with an armada of cheap T-34s....I mean Jem'Hadar attack ships, so they restricted Cardassian dockyards to cheaper Galors and Hideki class ships, making them virtually vanish from Cardassian lines. Also, I do love the fact that Cardassians use the main deflector as a gun. The Defiant did the same thing in a pinch, and generally the deflector can be used for a variety of very powerful energy beams and pulses, so deliberately using deflectors this way is a nice way of simplifying two parts into one.

I wonder where can i access a comparative database across all the star Trek ships?

The keldon is faster and better armed but I imagine is a newer variant

The Miranda is the AK-47 of Star Trek. . . the Galor is the Uzi.

I like to see an animated series about the border wars you know the slaughter of satellite three the battles of attrition of the board of wars you know Starfleet not allowing the Brahms class ships to join the fight and Starfleet captains having to fight with ambassadors at best and not even having many of those and happen to mainly use Constitution refits excelsior stargazers and it'd be cool if that's what happened to the most of the Constitution class refits they were destroyed in the border wars

I would disagree with assesment of the Galor being equivalent to a Nebula. Considering in canon it was mentioned that the galor was no match for a Galaxy class ship. I would make the case for it being equivalent to a early Ambassador class.

It looks a bit like a Klingon ship flying backwards

But I'd like to see an animated miniseries called battles of the Klingon empire or war stories of the Klingon empire and it would have the Klingon invasion of cardassia the Dominion war and the short-lived federation Klingon war that went on for about 6 months

If the Galor and the Kelson are the same, why do the call them two separate ships? The Miranda is still a Miranda regardless how it is fitted. I was under the impression the Keldon was the successor to the Galor and had more weapons, better shields, etc.

so basically it is a mobile fortress. it really does look like either a cobra or a dagger depending on which way you look at it. also 18 DISRPUPTOR ARRAYS? our starfighters cannot withstand firepower of that magnitude!. are we going to get a chat on the Dreadnought missile and Weapons Platform?

Keldon not being a separate class? According to which sources?

The problem is that the Cardassian Union has a bad economic and industrial base. All the technological cunning and design brilliance can only compensate for this flaw to some degree. Not only that the Federation never truly used its full industrial, economic and technological might to develop Starfleet. The Cardassians nearly bleed themselves to keep up with the UFP and Starfleet's Excelsor class and the Excelsor class was already a 70+ year old design. Or worse yet look at how the clone of William Riker with no specialized training on the Defiant managed to beat up on the Galors and Keldon class ships using that very same ship when he stole it. Garek as Castellan of the Cardassian Union (in the novels) really needs to get Cardassia butt in gear when it comes to economic reform.

A K't'inga equivalent. An eternal cruiser.

That's an interesting way to spell 'Galor' at the start of the video.

Who is the cardisan in the thumbnail

Wonderful ship, however I disagree with the assessment that the Galor was the first "Universal Cruiser" of all the major powers. The Constitution class was built to be a mulit-role ship capable of being a military, exploration, and diplomatic ship all at the same time and it is at least 80 years older. Same goes for the Excelsior class. The Klingons had the D-7 preform the same way, but in a much more limited fashion due to Klingon philosophy and culture. The only ones that were late to the Universal Cruiser party were the Romulans in my opinion.

Nobody ever mentions how these ships appear to be "glass canons". Powerful forward beam weapon, weak shields and easy to destroy. A few hits from a type X phaser will easily penetrate it's shields. In groups it would be deadly. By itself? it had better hope it gets the jump on ANY Federation ship. Some peolple here are arguing that it's as powerful as an Excelsior class. Maybe the original, but I don't think it compares to the 24th century version.

An evergreen design at a relatively high weight class that I think especially benefited from the dominion alliance in the latter variants. Even the mk1 was proboly more than a mach for a 2360 excelsior class, that would have to be the benchmark i would think. later variants were proboly a serious threat to even modern starfleet ships in its own 1 to 1.5 million m^3 weight class, like the new orleans or an akira on a good day. The nebula is a behemoth, about 5 million m^3 and could proboly take on 6 mk3 and come out on top, but an older dreadnought like the ambassador, that could proboly hold off several mk1s in the past, may not even be a match for 1 mk4.

So. . . it's a starship main battletank.

Didn't the Vor'Cha nail the Universal Cruiser role? Sure, it's only universal for combat but they are Klingons so that's probably a feature rather than a bug

The Galor was never the equal of the Excelsior Class. Not sure where you made that up.

The Kardashian ships look the most realistic

No torpedoes tho

I always thought it looked like a prawn or an earwig. A bit of an unfortunate aesthetic.

Why is that 3every other race and nation in Star Trek makes sense in the development and deployment of their star ships, by Star Fleet can not go one whole year without rolling out several all-new ships that are "a quantum leap ahead" of the ships they are supposed to be replacing. And the ships they hang on to are super long in the tooth and functionally useless for what they are being used for. The Cardassians make a single ship that largely makes sense and they use it everywhere it makes sense. Starfleet makes a ship that largely makes sense and they barely make and use any. Seriously this is why Starfleet can not win a war except if the writers get involved.

Yeah but who would be buying them who would they be exporting them to when the Klingons probably wouldn't want them or the federation or the romulans maybe maybe the romulan Republic would like to have some to get your numbers up and put cloaking devices on them or maybe the ferengi I could see the Frankie buying you know some of them and using them for basic defense you know the friendly empire or the you know using them for you know just basic defense of franken are because the Frankie ship I don't know what level weapon it has you know I think they the frankies do have phasers they have actually pretty advanced looking face and face or technology their hand phasers will quite small and compact but had a good design I like the fringy fazer the ham phaser the handle on it is seems better than the Starfleet women I bet it's cheaper made it's more reliable I said they're for sale in many ports of call a friendly phaser is I bet they're basic to friend your face cuz they probably got you know maybe two stun settings and maybe two kill settings that's probably it they probably I don't know if they can disintegrate but they're powerful enough and the friendly face a rifle I mean think you was a backward you was a 20th century world you know 21st century world in The Fringe showed up I mean you would pay a lot for their handheld energy weapons and some of their technology and I'm sure they be happy to sell it to some to you you think how much you pay for just him think how much Earth would pay for ferengi impulse and gravity technology just not even warped just basic you know just the friend you would help us build some impulse ships with the basic Shields and phasers pay a lot for that maybe some of the missile technology the Frankie's had missiles that was similar torpedoes even basic warp technology I mean how much would Earth pay for a few ferengi shuttles if we could you know we could use those to colonize Mars just a little bit at a time maybe a slightly bigger one

I never liked the shape of Cardassian cruisers. And they were always behind in technology and inferior to Starfleet.

What if history would have went differently and when the Klingons were invading Kardashian and then they had that simultaneous small little war with the federation what if the Dominion would have joined the Klingons and the federation would have had to join the Kardashians now the Jordans wouldn't have liked this but the Kardashians would have had to officially apologize to pay for I am when the war was over give some kind of reparations like a few ships or something anyway but then you would have had Starfleet squadrons of if you had a Galaxy class with two Calvin class like on the other side either side of it and you would have had federation improving the Kardashian Shields and putting torpedo pods on the Kardashian ships and there would have been a federation Kardashian alliance the federation would have helped the Kardashians by giving them more advanced agricultural technology and showing them how they could take a barren world and turn it into a garden this was developed in the 23rd century before replicators the federation could take a almost bare world and turned into a basically a giant farm even even a world that just had a basic atmosphere and the school wasn't completely dead and even if the soil was dead they could take a world like Mars and build an artificial atmosphere and change the soil enough where they could grow crops in originally how they did this was bringing tons and tons of soil from Earth and and mix it with the Martian soil like three parts our soil one part Martian soil and put Earth microorganisms in especially modified it was a sort of terraforming and then they would dome it over and make a giant farm see the marsh the Starfleet got quite good at this they got quite good at building basic atmosphere so on planets too and they can even put an atmosphere on a small planet that they never did try to do this with the Moon but Mars has an atmosphere by the time of the early 24 century Mars has an atmosphere and there's parts of Mars that have Earth plants growing on it and even some animals and it's not dumbed over you can breathe just fine there's lakes on Mars it's mainly a desert plant but there's there's aliens that are much like our you know large areas hundreds of miles most of the polar ice caps are gone they use those to build artificial large lakes filter out the water