Should Ben White be open about his World Cup exit? 🤔⚽️ Simon Jordan and Dean Ashton have their say!

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Жыл бұрын

Ben White posted a message on social media for first time since leaving England’s World Cup camp. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Dean Ashton discuss!
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@reggieperry4606
@reggieperry4606 Жыл бұрын
If you’ve ever heard Benjamin speak, you know he has zero Fs to give about what the media may want.
@TheKh65
@TheKh65 Жыл бұрын
@@ss4462 yet you are here
@menubuje
@menubuje Жыл бұрын
@@ss4462Clearly you do 😂
@Alan_Wigz
@Alan_Wigz Жыл бұрын
@@ss4462 You're obsessed with him
@samiulhuda4001
@samiulhuda4001 Жыл бұрын
hes mcguire 2.0 in the making.
@nqobilengema2165
@nqobilengema2165 Жыл бұрын
@@samiulhuda4001 do you even watch football? Lol what an ignorant thing to text
@bg7393
@bg7393 Жыл бұрын
He can do what he likes. The media is just upset because they don’t know 😂
@Smiffy-72
@Smiffy-72 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@temitopeemmanuel2735
@temitopeemmanuel2735 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂😂
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford Жыл бұрын
So players can just walk out of World Cup squads. Yeah right
@gladgan
@gladgan Жыл бұрын
@@BridgeStamford I mean, they can. Obviously
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
Well he can but it won't be funny if he's not selected ever again for England
@hypnotics7886
@hypnotics7886 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always found Dean Ashton eminently sensible. Hope he’s on more.
@mixedmitchell9178
@mixedmitchell9178 Жыл бұрын
He was a quality player too, if injuries didn't ruin him and force him to retire at 26 then he really could have been a top top player. He injured his ankle whilst on England duty at 23 years old and gave up the fight 3 years later unfortunately. Was being touted for a move to a big club at the time so his career was very much about to take off.
@yakedup
@yakedup Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, he’s refreshing when compared with Mills, Pearce, Keown etc
@robertmason6366
@robertmason6366 Жыл бұрын
Totally.
@tdevine3730
@tdevine3730 Жыл бұрын
Well spoken and insightful for sure
@shamorshamor7609
@shamorshamor7609 Жыл бұрын
Bro he just posted ‘he’s back’. I’m trying to figure out how that is interpreted as him wanting to talk about what happened at the camp
@mattswinnerton9892
@mattswinnerton9892 Жыл бұрын
The whereabouts of John terry at the time of Ben whites departure from the England squad will leave great clues as to solving this mystery methinks 🧐
@michaeloliver7825
@michaeloliver7825 Жыл бұрын
Only if John terry likes men now
@tobagogooner2187
@tobagogooner2187 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeloliver7825 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@adamfletcher3975
@adamfletcher3975 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeloliver7825 freezing cold 😁
@creativitycell
@creativitycell Жыл бұрын
He complained about "casual relaxed attitude in training" saying the mentality, intensity and focus at Arsenal was far higher! Southgate took it as a criticism of his methods! The young players won't challenge Southgates methods! White said it was like a holiday camp!! Probably why they lost to France, Southgate to pleasing, Kane and Maguire were not fit, but Southgate has no balls for big decisions that Winners make!! 🤨
@FoxunitedFC29
@FoxunitedFC29 Жыл бұрын
What utter nonsense 😂😂
@Never_Wr0ng
@Never_Wr0ng Жыл бұрын
@@FoxunitedFC29 You have evidence to prove it's nonsense ?
@marcoar4042
@marcoar4042 Жыл бұрын
@@Never_Wr0ng do you have evidence to substantiate the initial claims?
@Never_Wr0ng
@Never_Wr0ng Жыл бұрын
@@marcoar4042 I never said I backed what the OP said. I'm questioning someone who's claiming Ben White wasn't good enough to play & needs to 'man up' - if they have any evidence to make such claims.
@FoxunitedFC29
@FoxunitedFC29 Жыл бұрын
@@Never_Wr0ng the evidence is that he either walked or got booted from the camp because he thinks he’s better than he’s is !!! He’s instagram post was embarrassing as well btw
@reisssato902
@reisssato902 Жыл бұрын
Why can't we just "Respect his privacy" ? It's obviously a personal issue 🙄
@TheLeeBonner
@TheLeeBonner Жыл бұрын
I know I don’t even understand why this is in discussion. He’s not a politician, he doesn’t receive any tax power money and therefore is not obliged, just like everyone else, to discuss his matters publicly. If Gareth and Mikel are okay with it then I’m sure it’s not a big deal. Journalists are just digging at this in the hope that there’s a story here. ‘Ben White turns his back on England in midst of World Cup ’ being the headline they’re grasping for. It’s private and should remain so unless Ben decides otherwise. Simple. Are we that lost as a society to truly suggest otherwise?
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
A footballer today asking for their privacy to be respected is hilarious. They spend their whole lives promoting themselves on social media, doing interview, KZfaq videos, Instagram posts, Twitter posts, sharing every opinion they have and every detail of their lives, every political opinion as well of course. Everything except how much tax they pay and who they vote for is made public. And then they ask for "privacy" when the public is curious about something actually football-related. Lol.
@reisssato902
@reisssato902 Жыл бұрын
@@cockoffgewgle4993 you don't really believe that crap, surly? Nobody can be that thick 🍞
@AJP321
@AJP321 Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@vincineratev9183
@vincineratev9183 Жыл бұрын
There was 1 guy who had personal issue, nobody believes him even when he had a 2 part show on KZfaq.
@alfieb6711
@alfieb6711 Жыл бұрын
Dean is a great pundit get him on weekly start a petition
@eniolaabifarin3260
@eniolaabifarin3260 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@clemo85
@clemo85 Жыл бұрын
Argentina just won the World Cup with Aston Villa's keeper playing every game and a Brighton midfielder only missing one. Perfect example that picking based on REPUTATION or WHO THEY PLAY FOR is why England will never win a thing. Until they change their selection strategy...
@itzgmedmr9iceguy513
@itzgmedmr9iceguy513 Жыл бұрын
In the first case Southgate doesn't even want to call him and Maddison, he did that cause of media. thought!!
@paulgray7669
@paulgray7669 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@peterjoe530
@peterjoe530 Жыл бұрын
Correct
@harrydawson7986
@harrydawson7986 Жыл бұрын
And Trent
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 Жыл бұрын
Yep spot on had feeling that was going to happen like calling Ivan Toney being called up for them 2 pointless nations league games(last 2 Internationals before W.C) then not playing him+plz stop with the he got a good feel for the place+how well he fitted in+such shite(he's not a foster child being placed in a new home)
@kyekyeeminah8734
@kyekyeeminah8734 Жыл бұрын
@@craigoliver8712 you made me laugh with your plain honesty. 🤣 😅
@kay-dc8495
@kay-dc8495 Жыл бұрын
Those personal reasons are no one else's business. If he wants to keep it private let it be
@Matt-pn1ce
@Matt-pn1ce Жыл бұрын
He is on Duty and the nation depends on him , he needs to apologise and come clean .
@Never_Wr0ng
@Never_Wr0ng Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-pn1ce Nation depends on him? What a joke 😂😂 He's been given ZERO competitive minutes in over 2 years. I wouldn't even have bothered going if I were him. Sitting on the bench while the likes of Maguire & Shaw start?? No fkin thanks!
@Matt-pn1ce
@Matt-pn1ce Жыл бұрын
@@Never_Wr0ng called up to represent a country isn't a club competition you div. You explained why , he would never get in over those players who are established internationally and he has blown his chance for good anyway . Ben white isn't good at centre back and isn't good at right back , what is his actual position instead of being a jack of all trades , he is a clown and let the country down , he can't just turn up and expect to start given the fact he isn't world class and was always a rotation player at Leeds.
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
How do we know they're no one else's business? Did you get clues from somewhere?
@user-bu9nb8wr6e
@user-bu9nb8wr6e Жыл бұрын
He asked Southgate if he had a chance of playing, Southgate said no so he left.
@roydixon1762
@roydixon1762 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not the answer that's just to unprofessional
@isaacjacobs3785
@isaacjacobs3785 Жыл бұрын
And Nope
@roydixon1762
@roydixon1762 Жыл бұрын
@@isaacjacobs3785 never that's scandalous anything is possible
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 Жыл бұрын
He didn't back himself against the likes of Maguire-bottled it
@tonyejiro7641
@tonyejiro7641 Жыл бұрын
This is why england will always dissapoint in big tournaments because of too much chat about nothing ,media should focus on how to solve the deep lack of self esteem in that squad not talking about ben,from the outside looking in it just feels like too much talking ,misplaced priority.
@leewainwright3526
@leewainwright3526 Жыл бұрын
Deep lack of self esteem what the hell you smoking kid they were narrowly beaten by France who it might have escaped your attention are the world cup holders and were there for the taking if Southgate had any tactical intelligence
@brianjackson8657
@brianjackson8657 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@michaeltaylor4395
@michaeltaylor4395 Жыл бұрын
Dean Ashton was a breath a fresh air on the show today, you could see it was debates between the three without it becoming a slanging match. Good watch/ listen today. Unlike the other day with Mills
@gladiatorscoops4907
@gladiatorscoops4907 Жыл бұрын
Was gna comment exactly the same comparison of Deano vs Mills. More Deano, less Mills please TalkSport!
@Iron-Bridge
@Iron-Bridge Жыл бұрын
They might just bring back Mills for the clickbait fireworks. 😁
@paulrichards6894
@paulrichards6894 Жыл бұрын
agree dean ashton was excellent......cant watch martin keown anymore......man talks garbage
@JayloT93
@JayloT93 Жыл бұрын
so much better than mills. bloke is a tool and I don't understand why he gets the air time
@roathripper
@roathripper Жыл бұрын
footballer pundits, manager pundits, they're all like skittles to Simon. all of them just an echo chamber, buzzing and droning their ass-covering excuses with no accountability assigned except to lunatic owners.
@mabozza85
@mabozza85 Жыл бұрын
Ultimately Ben you just need to back the courage of your convictions. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck its probably a duck.
@bluesEvanskro
@bluesEvanskro Жыл бұрын
Complete dollars for doughnuts imo
@benjamincorbett
@benjamincorbett Жыл бұрын
Like Southgate has ducked against every team which has players who all play at a pro level?
@Roger-Bacon
@Roger-Bacon Жыл бұрын
You complete berk.
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
And if it turns like a fridge and it stinks like the back of a fridge it's definitely Harry Maguire
@MrSitemaster2
@MrSitemaster2 Жыл бұрын
It was obvious he wasn't going to play, so he may as well go and prepare with Arsenal.
@wawaw1194
@wawaw1194 Жыл бұрын
He is gay
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@deadlydizzle3942
@deadlydizzle3942 Жыл бұрын
That's not how it works when you're picked for your country. Look at Kolo Muani for the French team, he could've said the same thing but ended up playing a big part in the last game, scoring with his first touch. If true, Ben White was definitely that kid that said 'I'm taking my ball and going home because no one is passing to me' 😭
@MrSitemaster2
@MrSitemaster2 Жыл бұрын
@@deadlydizzle3942 The difference is Ben white was never going to play.
@deadlydizzle3942
@deadlydizzle3942 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSitemaster2 half the squad are doubtful of playing, they never left. Even at Arsenal, half of the first team are not guaranteed to play, should they not turn up for training either? That's the dumbest excuse I've heard for a player who is arrogant enough to walk out on his country because he's not guaranteed to play. Why not impress the manager by staying, putting in performances in training and forcing your way into his plans? How are you going to impress anyone if you only turn up when you're guaranteed playing time? That's just entitlement to the max
@benmccarthy9180
@benmccarthy9180 Жыл бұрын
Deans been good in the clips I’ve seen of him on the show, someone who attempts to give sense and reason👍🏻
@sirprintalot
@sirprintalot Жыл бұрын
yep really rate him now, especially against the loudest dissenting voices talking absolute rubbish.
@bobbypukes605
@bobbypukes605 Жыл бұрын
Is that you Dean
@Ben_Gunner
@Ben_Gunner Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't media speculators be accountable for their own private behaviours and affairs to at least give substance to their opinions on the subject matters they offer with impunity?
@42shredda
@42shredda Жыл бұрын
Facts he dont need to say anything. too many weirdos feel entitled for a man tell them any and everything..who they dont even know like that is mad ..they need toget off his nutss and get money lool
@tonyejiro7641
@tonyejiro7641 Жыл бұрын
Grown men some in their 60s ,type of stuff you'd expect from teenage girls ,I m sure they're been forced to be petty.
@tawandamadzikanda604
@tawandamadzikanda604 Жыл бұрын
With how the British media treats their stars I understand fully his silence
@claudemurphy5035
@claudemurphy5035 Жыл бұрын
Yes he should it was tax payers monies he went there with , we need to know
@007feck
@007feck Жыл бұрын
@@claudemurphy5035 saying “tax payer money” doesn’t entitle you to everything you think it does
@SleepingDragon1
@SleepingDragon1 Жыл бұрын
@@claudemurphy5035 Is it? I thought the FA paid for it with the £100,000,000+ they make each year
@panchopuskas1
@panchopuskas1 Жыл бұрын
@@SleepingDragon1 true.....and with all the crap that goes with it, I sometimes wonder why players don’t follow Eric Cantona’s example and tell them all to FO.....enjoy the international breaks in the comfort of your own home...
@Matt-pn1ce
@Matt-pn1ce Жыл бұрын
stop attacking Britain he owes the nation an apology and explanation in full . He will never appear for the national team again
@JY-100
@JY-100 Жыл бұрын
They clearly have nothing better to talk about, this is the biggest reach ever.... AN INSTAGRAM POST? Bloody hell.
@jaanmutthi8050
@jaanmutthi8050 Жыл бұрын
Talksport is thrash
@kamaljitwadhawan191
@kamaljitwadhawan191 Жыл бұрын
If white is not selected in future for England then you know it is problem with the coaching Team
@jziffi
@jziffi Жыл бұрын
We don't know the nature of the problem, mate.
@772364327rhdhqwag
@772364327rhdhqwag Жыл бұрын
@@jziffi thats why he said IF he's not selected in the future THEN you know it's a problem with the coaching team.
@amasim86
@amasim86 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, just maybe, white is THE problem
@palatialpetals
@palatialpetals Жыл бұрын
no, it's because he's a liability bailing on his country.. somebody else could have gone
@Smiffy-72
@Smiffy-72 Жыл бұрын
@@palatialpetals shut up you know f all of whats gone on..?
@carter3369
@carter3369 Жыл бұрын
He’s been brilliant for Arsenal this season. England’s best defender by a mile.
@Do27gg
@Do27gg Жыл бұрын
Okay thanks
@Dman_199
@Dman_199 Жыл бұрын
His been playing at RB, and surely Trippier has been as good, if not better. No?
@ojvic7297
@ojvic7297 Жыл бұрын
Maguire is still the best defender for England…
@footballtalk5798
@footballtalk5798 Жыл бұрын
He's that good at centre back he got moved to right back
@stephenmccann3407
@stephenmccann3407 Жыл бұрын
@@ojvic7297 magiures dreadful tomori and white should have bee the two cbs
@AdaptStudios
@AdaptStudios Жыл бұрын
Manager: Respect the man’s privacy. Media: Is that a threat?! Oh we finna show you now…
@cowboy8968
@cowboy8968 Жыл бұрын
Finna 😂
@sugoshiyer1540
@sugoshiyer1540 Жыл бұрын
He could not digest the fact that he was a bystander despite bursting his gut for Arsenal who are top while Maguire gets a free pass in the team..he was not willing to wax lyrical about Southgate and the camp but wanted to play...respect his attitude which could have been useful vs France...
@rubens6619
@rubens6619 Жыл бұрын
Lmao he would offer Nothing more against france. Maguire wasnt ever a problem in the tournament. How you imply he was at fault says it all, gooner
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 Жыл бұрын
They already have a kit man
@blackkid128
@blackkid128 Жыл бұрын
@@rubens6619 Maguire scored an own goal. Plus he’s nowhere as good as Ben White
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
Please stop saying "wax lyrical". only Simon and grandmothers above 80 can pull it off.
@theundefeatedclub885
@theundefeatedclub885 Жыл бұрын
He is under no obligation to explain to no one! Zip it! He chose to say what he wants to say whenever or wherever
@jammadee4786
@jammadee4786 Жыл бұрын
He's gay
@paulwilliams5296
@paulwilliams5296 Жыл бұрын
He's been seen at Thorpe arch discussing personal terms for a sensational return to the club he loves. Saw Bielsa in Wetherby Morrisons yesterday too. Also had to wait at the pedestrian lights in Boston Spa for Kalvin Phillips to cross the road. I'm on the carlsberg tonight 🤣🤣
@abiodunodeleye7984
@abiodunodeleye7984 Жыл бұрын
Why does anyone think Benjamin has to let anyone into his privacy?
@craigdoc6656
@craigdoc6656 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why he just doesn't come out as gay and be done with it
@shinpads3453
@shinpads3453 Жыл бұрын
Ben was told by Southgate that he wont be played and that Fridge Maguire will be the main CB for England in the knockout stages. So Ben said nope I wont be part of a loser team😂
@finding_aether
@finding_aether Жыл бұрын
British media is the worst. Respect his privacy!
@Trailhiker1
@Trailhiker1 Жыл бұрын
There was a newspaper called The news of the world. They hacked a young teenagers phone who mother & sister was murdered in front of her. Absolute scum of the earth. The paper collapsed 😁👍 UK press went from No1 in the world to absolute pond life.
@mallyy1251
@mallyy1251 Жыл бұрын
Ben White doesn’t give af bout the media think tbf. Think he’s just happy to be back with the Arsenal team
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
He will care if Southgate never calls him up again
@CurtisShawTv16
@CurtisShawTv16 Жыл бұрын
@@haimainjauo242 Fraudgate will be gone sooner than he gets the chance to not call Ben
@Ben_Gunner
@Ben_Gunner Жыл бұрын
He gives 110% wearing my clubs badge and I've seen enough of his character to back him in however way he wants to conduct his private affairs in the manner he chooses. I couldn't care less what happened at the WC with my country. Ben imo is far from the usual conveyor belt of young talented sycophant players. If he's talented, profesional and trusted enough for Arteta to blow 50m on a must pick positional player and one of the first on the team sheet still, there should be no doubts of the players conduct during internationals.
@mchammer1982
@mchammer1982 Жыл бұрын
Good to see Simon coming to work with flu like symptoms
@nebbyscumbold
@nebbyscumbold Жыл бұрын
He's always ill.
@MrHOUSEOFSILKTV
@MrHOUSEOFSILKTV Жыл бұрын
That's not flu symptoms, he was on the packet the night before
@phoenixreborn6065
@phoenixreborn6065 Жыл бұрын
Rumour has it, he has a 98% survival rate but don't tell anyone!
@AndyDwyerSpeaks
@AndyDwyerSpeaks Жыл бұрын
@@phoenixreborn6065 i think its 99.9 😉
@phoenixreborn6065
@phoenixreborn6065 Жыл бұрын
@@AndyDwyerSpeaks Ah! I stand corrected, 99.9% it is! Sorry for the misinformation! 😉
@gr4303
@gr4303 Жыл бұрын
Who business is it. International duty is not for everyone. Carragher said he never liked International duty hence retired early from it.
@TwistedSoul2002
@TwistedSoul2002 Жыл бұрын
He’s saving it for his book…
@registame2878
@registame2878 Жыл бұрын
They all do
@sugoshiyer1540
@sugoshiyer1540 Жыл бұрын
Piers Morgan would have already called him...
@101Verminator
@101Verminator Жыл бұрын
Have I missed the point that they were making about Ben’s insta post? Is he not just happy to be back at Arsenal with his teammates again??
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
No. He's just promoting himself like all footballers do.
@101Verminator
@101Verminator Жыл бұрын
@@cockoffgewgle4993 What is he promoting though?
@arranmelaugh5606
@arranmelaugh5606 Жыл бұрын
@@101Verminator that he’s gay
@mf289
@mf289 Жыл бұрын
@@arranmelaugh5606he has a fiancée
@mf289
@mf289 Жыл бұрын
@@ss4462 a footballer doesn’t conform to stereotypes. Must like men!
@17scottymufc
@17scottymufc Жыл бұрын
Makes no difference anyway, was never starting centre half, was never starting right back. Cycle for alot of those players is coming to an end so will probably go 24, but depends on how early southgate starts to move out players
@Cbart23
@Cbart23 Жыл бұрын
Ben White is better than Harry Maguire.
@christophernicolson5086
@christophernicolson5086 Жыл бұрын
He probably left because he told Maguire he wasn't good enough to represent and was going to be put on loan to Wigan to get 1st team experience.
@mirrors23
@mirrors23 Жыл бұрын
It's a personal matter by all accounts, leave it be!!
@tanman966
@tanman966 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think we’re that bothered about Ben White’s exit, are we...
@kygodragon4782
@kygodragon4782 Жыл бұрын
When Ben White plays for his club: They top the league and top the European league When Ben White doesn't play for England: They win nothing and go home. Clearly Ben White was needed.
@scottevans5689
@scottevans5689 Жыл бұрын
​@@kygodragon4782 England always never win and go home
@kygodragon4782
@kygodragon4782 Жыл бұрын
@@scottevans5689 Exactly... How many time was Ben White playing in them times when England didn't win? Zero. My point stands.
@scottevans5689
@scottevans5689 Жыл бұрын
@@kygodragon4782 So does my point, with or without Ben White England go home
@kygodragon4782
@kygodragon4782 Жыл бұрын
@@scottevans5689 Where is your proof with Ben White England go home? I have multiple pieces of proof that without Ben White England go home... Litearrly 4 days ago is my latest proof.
@abhijeetdora6902
@abhijeetdora6902 Жыл бұрын
Dean Ashton and Simon Jordan needs to be on the regular.... We back baby😎
@Manc268
@Manc268 Жыл бұрын
a pint with white & vardy might reveal some things about the camp :) ofc we'd like to know bcos we were a bit poor throughout the tounrnament. the sterling thing was strange aswel. The armbands & political nonsense before we left was also nothing to do with football & when minds needed to be focused properly i felt that was a sideshow. Hard to say if its bad management or pressure from the FA & Gov & media. We all saw there was something missing from the sqaud.
@pacbynz6496
@pacbynz6496 Жыл бұрын
NO HE SHOULDNT!! F.. what you guys think!! He said PERSONAL which means NONE OF YA DAMN BUSINESS
@layeththesmacketh
@layeththesmacketh Жыл бұрын
Not too sure why this is even a topic of discussion. Like any one of us, Ben too has every right to keep the reason(s) for his WC exit private. Irrespective of the "it's in the national interests" thing, clearly Ben feels that he does not (at this time) wish to discuss it. I'm sure we have all had a moment where we felt more comfortable keeping something quiet, regardless of the issue and if he felt comfortable to discuss it, he would have done. Respect his privacy, as you would want yours respected.
@cassisbrook
@cassisbrook Жыл бұрын
I'll patiently wait for the Piers Morgan interview. /s
@rawthentictruth
@rawthentictruth Жыл бұрын
You know, in order to stay true to who you are and achieve your goals; just do what you are passionate about even if popular opinions don’t agree with you. Few months again, there were rumors at Man U about Ronaldo wanting to leave and not showing up for preseason. Many in the media, including former teammates, said Ronaldo needs to say something. Few months later, he says something from the bottom of his heart and gets crucified by the media for speaking out. Let Ben White do what he thinks best for him in this case and not what is “appropriate” to do.
@TheLeeBonner
@TheLeeBonner Жыл бұрын
Well said! Imagine you going home from work knowing you know and your boss knows why but when you come in the next day everyone is saying you should tell everyone why you went. Absolutely not, it’s obviously a private matter and should remain so. This discussion is madness in my opinion. Nobody, no matter how privileged or famous, is obliged to discuss anything publicly unless you work in the public sector for tax payer money, then and only then should someone be obliged to explain their absence publicly.
@rawthentictruth
@rawthentictruth Жыл бұрын
@@TheLeeBonner Hahaha 🤣 You know why I’m laughing 😂? It’s always in the club’s interest to make it public but as soon as it has to do with the player, then it becomes a private matter. It’s it right that those who pay their hard earned tax dollars to follow and support a team be told exactly what’s going on instead of covering up and scapegoating someone? I rest my case
@rob_h_7
@rob_h_7 Жыл бұрын
If we had made the WC semi-final then we would have been playing tonight. He played for Arsenal yesterday. Would he have returned to the England camp?
@Franklin8701
@Franklin8701 Жыл бұрын
James Maddison went to the World Cup with this England squad without kicking a ball even for the fact we all know he is a better player than Mason Mount, he was humble enough to stay calm on the bench, that was something White could not take, White knew very well that he was physically in good form and mentally in good shape ahead of the unfit Walker but Walker was chosen to play and start games ahead of him, so he left the bias coach and came back home, Simple. White would have been very useful in that England team especially when they came up against Oliver Giroud who has a great strength advantage in the air with his head.
@Red-Eyez420gaming
@Red-Eyez420gaming Жыл бұрын
Transparency to who? He owes no one anything....
@jskyes8291
@jskyes8291 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I doubt white would have played a single minute.. don’t think it’s that important
@dapz7763
@dapz7763 Жыл бұрын
Timori at home like wtf
@hicks3749
@hicks3749 Жыл бұрын
He won't want to go to the Caribbean either where its also illegal.
@ERROL007
@ERROL007 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like whatever Ben posted would have been an issue even if was just a blank post with no text. This just seems like three men trying to play Inspector Morse and failing miserably. As much as I like Talksport this was just a show looking for a story.
@rohanpatel307
@rohanpatel307 Жыл бұрын
In the words of Wayne Rooney when he got called up to the Everton first team and trained with the players, Benny Blanco probably looked at Southgate and Hollands' football know how and thought "you'se are crap".
@johndev9286
@johndev9286 Жыл бұрын
The timing of these personal situations have been curious when someone gets benched...personal situations just popping up randomly while at the wc every four years
@Creees
@Creees Жыл бұрын
Ben White probaly got unfairly forced out. Southgate i dont think would allow players to speak up so White was booted out
@addeyaddey5608
@addeyaddey5608 Жыл бұрын
If the coaching team and teammates are quiet about what happened why should Ben? Please move on everyone.
@GGMU100
@GGMU100 Жыл бұрын
Major own goal by white he may not like playing second fiddle to Maguire and stones or even how the coaches talk or whatever but let me tell you maguire is never far from self destruction stones is a liability and them coaches won’t be there much longer sometimes you just need to shut up and know your position
@markchandler5095
@markchandler5095 Жыл бұрын
The story for England is their number one player choked!!! That's the story not Ben, Southgate was never going to play him because he loves who he loves and that's who he plays.
@christophernicolson5086
@christophernicolson5086 Жыл бұрын
Ben White has been open previously that he's not from a football family and doesn't really like football or watch it in his spare time. He would have suffered from the wall 2 wall football that is the world cup and the expectation that he was to geek out over his own game. That's not who Ben is and the one size fits all approach of England would have grated. I expect he will win the EPL this year and not get called up again. England want players obsessed with their own mediocrity rather than effortless winners.
@CampslewFitnessTraining
@CampslewFitnessTraining Жыл бұрын
No it's not a good point... U can have a reason for leaving work dat u dnt want to share..... and now ur bck at work ... " we back" ... Only the English media would see thst as something to talk about....... England are out.... he bck to work ... why cant he like being bck and not tell u wot happen between having to leave and going bck to work🤣🤣🤣 non topic
@tanomsakkhacharoen1387
@tanomsakkhacharoen1387 Жыл бұрын
But when can he start posting on Instagram again? Who are you to judge him when is OK or not OK to post
@tundescope
@tundescope Жыл бұрын
3:33 disappointed by the quality of discourse here. Posting “we back…” means issue’s resolved and he’s back at training. Does he need to stay dark forever or give a press conference afterwards? C’mon guys….
@phichau90
@phichau90 Жыл бұрын
If its a personal matter. Keep it dont spread it.
@djackson2212
@djackson2212 Жыл бұрын
man these can be so stupid sometimes. It could be as simple as him finding comfort in his teammates so he is happy to be back...he doesnt need to explain anything thats personal
@garypearson4007
@garypearson4007 Жыл бұрын
🤧🤧good work Simon 👍
@Tipps72
@Tipps72 Жыл бұрын
No body else’s business! Why do people think they should know the in’s & out’s of everybody’s lives?
@chazzmo1
@chazzmo1 Жыл бұрын
It’s no one’s business but his own …
@nicknackpaddywhack2159
@nicknackpaddywhack2159 Жыл бұрын
It's a positive for Benjamin White. He has been used the same as James Maddison in the expanded squad from 23 to 26. The 2 of them were selected through merit (as well as stopping media hounding). Once Maguire rediscovered his excellent form as a RCB, Trippier performed well as a RB and Walker became fit again for both those positions, maybe there was no need for him to stay. He was never in the FA youth team club and possibly couldn't wait for the 1 hour flight to get back with Arteta, his staff and the rest of the group No one mentioned Partey and Xhaka travelled earlier and separately from their national teams to Dubai. The other unusable players in the manager's eyes were thinking it's their only opportunity due to fitness (Wilson), Nicest man in football (Coady) and Maddison who is on for a move. White has 4 years left and has quickly become one of the most intelligent and adaptable defenders 25 or under in the Prem. Guy didn't even play football until his mid- late teens, he'll be called on again for an effective role. Probably in 18 months at RB/RCB at the Euros tbh.
@roydixon1762
@roydixon1762 Жыл бұрын
I hope it wasn't that though because that would be really sad state of affairs
@lughphanteon5966
@lughphanteon5966 Жыл бұрын
It's not a big issue allow him live his life, he owes you guys nothing. I'm sure he doesn't care about Y'all opinions
@theone7033
@theone7033 Жыл бұрын
He plays for the other side
@hmq9052
@hmq9052 Жыл бұрын
Qatar was just not Ben's kind of country. The Arsenal lads will welcome him back with open arms.
@Do27gg
@Do27gg Жыл бұрын
😂?
@davidsummer8631
@davidsummer8631 Жыл бұрын
Lifestyle choices
@EubulusKane3259
@EubulusKane3259 Жыл бұрын
@@davidsummer8631 He's still in the region mate, if your implying he's made personally uncomfortable by the local politics. And if he is, good for him.
@registame2878
@registame2878 Жыл бұрын
@@Do27gg you and me both 🍎🍓 each to their own
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
Arsenal are in Qatar lmao Not to mention their stadium is called The Emirates Stadium lol. If this is about "principles" then do me a favour.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
@sammybeck4855
@sammybeck4855 Жыл бұрын
Simon and LFC Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber
@davidturner4852
@davidturner4852 Жыл бұрын
Wtf?
@MrSlinxy
@MrSlinxy Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day... it's football... it's not like he's been called up to fight a war... It could be something personally and as simply as friend or family member has gone missing or become sick and he was not in the right frame of mind.. something that can be resolved quickly and it seems like it was as he came back for the Arsenal... On the flipside Raheem went home to deal with a personal matter then came back; half the comments was digging at him for doing so... personally if I was in that same situ; I would have gone home straight away to make sure that my family was ok... would I go back to the WC... who knows...
@azapro911
@azapro911 Жыл бұрын
If it's personal and not a breach of the law, then it's none of our business if he doesn't want it to be.
@ssmufc9941
@ssmufc9941 Жыл бұрын
His truth will come out soon in an 'interview' with Piers Wimfrey 😂
@likishowsummer5470
@likishowsummer5470 Жыл бұрын
This not manchester united Your dressing room got more leaks than the roofs at old Trafford
@ifynna4306
@ifynna4306 Жыл бұрын
@@likishowsummer5470 haa facts
@earendil261
@earendil261 Жыл бұрын
Ben White speaks his mind. That won't wash with England's rigid set up.
@marktallon9959
@marktallon9959 Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t going to play - he wasn’t happy - he had better things to do - he left camp - he had a nice holiday with his family - what’s the issue - most people would do the same
@goonern4644
@goonern4644 Жыл бұрын
If it was a deeply personal family issue. England would openly give him their blessing.
@pasteygee71
@pasteygee71 Жыл бұрын
He argued with one of the coaches at England I heard
@Redman680
@Redman680 Жыл бұрын
It could be that Qatar are intolerant to certain things & Mr White likes to indulge in those very things. Not a judgement on him, but if he felt uncomfortable......
@Matt-pn1ce
@Matt-pn1ce Жыл бұрын
@@Redman680 exactly
@theone7033
@theone7033 Жыл бұрын
Maby his gay
@farhansa4546
@farhansa4546 Жыл бұрын
Didn't realise he had left the squad
@gaddafiedgar5995
@gaddafiedgar5995 Жыл бұрын
You know what because Gareth Southgate been playing in those games
@mradhurley
@mradhurley Жыл бұрын
Absolute nonsense from Simon. Respect his privacy 'UNLESS YOU'RE PLAYING FOR ENGLAND!'
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
Lmao like footballers want privacy. If they did they'd shut down all their social media accounts, or at least make them private. They're all about self-promotion and making themselves a brand when it suits them and will make them money or make them look good-- or when they want to lecture the people paying their obscene salaries. You can't have it both ways.
@mradhurley
@mradhurley Жыл бұрын
@@cockoffgewgle4993Anyone who has a public social media presence shouldn't be entitled to privacy? That's a new one...
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
@@mradhurley Yes. They've shown that they don't want it.
@mradhurley
@mradhurley Жыл бұрын
@@cockoffgewgle4993 They've shown they're happy to have a social media account, which they decide what goes on it, to be open to the public. That doesn't mean they've signed their entire personal life away to the public.
@cockoffgewgle4993
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
@@mradhurley Which shows they don't want their privacy. They want attention and to commodify their personal lives.
@patricksbestsolutions917
@patricksbestsolutions917 Жыл бұрын
WHY WOULD A WINNER LIKE BEN WHITE ACCEPT TO BE BENCHED FOR MAGUIRE WHO HAASNT PLAYED ALL SEASON. BEN PROBABLY DIDNT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ENGLAND'S FARCICAL OF A TEAM. HOW ON EARTH ARE WE GOING TO WIN IF GARETH DOENT PLAY OUR BEST PLATERS? BEN ASKED??? WE'RE BACK BABY.
@haroldkane9714
@haroldkane9714 Жыл бұрын
If he's come out of the closest then good luck to him
@RocKnRolla2471
@RocKnRolla2471 Жыл бұрын
He ain't gay is boyfriend is vo
@markmorrid8144
@markmorrid8144 Жыл бұрын
@@RocKnRolla2471 🤣🤣
@pzee9732
@pzee9732 Жыл бұрын
But why is he gae?
@vjaska
@vjaska Жыл бұрын
I stand by White, gives his all for my team and that's all I ask for
@anonpls5174
@anonpls5174 Жыл бұрын
Apparently it was a medical emergency of a close family member. Not going to mention what it was here but leave him be. JFC.
@AJP321
@AJP321 Жыл бұрын
I've not seen that explanation anywhere. Insightful if true. Where did you get that from?
@fresharsenal
@fresharsenal Жыл бұрын
They said personal reasons. You have no idea what's gone on or what he is going through. Respect his privacy and move on.
@DALFY100
@DALFY100 Жыл бұрын
Really like listening to dean
@F_Omilez
@F_Omilez Жыл бұрын
It’s very simple respect his privacy! Why is that so hard for you?
@chrisg9615
@chrisg9615 Жыл бұрын
Where's Gabby Agbon had enough of this Deano bloke
@samtillbrook2987
@samtillbrook2987 Жыл бұрын
I mean... Do we really care why Ben White left the camp. He chose too, and that's fine.
@askido351
@askido351 Жыл бұрын
He posted that he's back at Arsenal. What's wrong with that??? These people are tapped 😂😂
@Mark_106
@Mark_106 Жыл бұрын
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Dollar For Doughnuts With This One
@sammybeck4855
@sammybeck4855 Жыл бұрын
LFC Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber
@timothyosullivan222
@timothyosullivan222 Жыл бұрын
The wind blew and the axe flew. Benjamin came home w/ his knob in 2!
@markfromuk4812
@markfromuk4812 Жыл бұрын
Falling out with Southgate's assistant
@isaacjacobs3785
@isaacjacobs3785 Жыл бұрын
Why can't White be happy to be back at Arsenal. Its his Insta ffs !! Pathetic Talksport
@ashmillions348
@ashmillions348 Жыл бұрын
End of the day Ben should have started over Maguire and I’d be pissed off if I didn’t play and watch the team Crash out the Quarters Boring”Gate should have players 5 at the back with Ben playing over Maguirebur he didn’t
@robertmason6366
@robertmason6366 Жыл бұрын
Dean Ashton is a great foil for our Simon. Keep him on and get Rid of Southgates best mate.
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