Should I Really Be Tithing While Paying Off Debt?

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@leodejesus9530
@leodejesus9530 Ай бұрын
What I’ve noticed is when I tithe I still have money left over after paying everything for the month. And when I’m selfish and don’t tithe thinking I’m saving money I end up with a negative balance.
@AlexBridgesKiev
@AlexBridgesKiev 5 жыл бұрын
I know the Lord doesn't need my money, yet I acknowledge him as a source of all my income. He gave me physical body and ability to go to work. I gladly pay my tithing and feel it is a privilege, not a burden. Whatever the church decides to do with that money, it's up to them. As far as I am concerned, I pay my tithing to God. In the Bible God says "Prove me now if I will not open the windows of heaven". Many years ago I decided to test him and today my tithing equals my entire income just 10 years ago. So yes, I pay tithing, and will do it because the Lord is great
@mukhethwanemanashi
@mukhethwanemanashi 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better 👍👍👍
@kenny3269
@kenny3269 5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@billboyd2009
@billboyd2009 5 жыл бұрын
You are not giving the money to God. You are giving it to a bureaucracy of humans. Look where it led the Catholics!
@brittneyyoung1882
@brittneyyoung1882 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@SteelRhinoXpress
@SteelRhinoXpress 5 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be whatever that church decides to do with that money. thats how people get ripped off and it has happened many times. an honest church should show you what they're doing with tithing money.
@leahstewart6979
@leahstewart6979 4 жыл бұрын
Giving joyfully is the key. I tithed unemployment and didn’t run out of money for a year (and i sure should have!) even though unemployment only lasted 4 months. God provided money at just the right times, over and over. You can’t out give God!
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people talk about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a wealthy prosperous income. 🤗🙏
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
And I have a pastor he's always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. He believe him and his family are healthy and prosperous because they tithe to that ministry so you can try giving to it if you like.
@Kevin-jc1fx
@Kevin-jc1fx 3 жыл бұрын
@@christslove8121 Unfortunately, those few success stories are not the portion of every tithers.
@learneroftruth9697
@learneroftruth9697 2 жыл бұрын
God provided for you, not because you "tithe", but because God loves you, sees your heart, and takes care of His children. The Biblical "Tithe" has nothing to do with the new testament church bride of Christ. You must "give", being led by the Holy Spirit, not by a "tithe" mandate made by some man, or a building, or group of people, that was strictly for the Levitical priesthood and had nothing to do with "money", but agricultural products; in other words, Food, that people ate together. Listen to the Holy Spirit instead of a man and see the True blessings of God!
@leahstewart6979
@leahstewart6979 2 жыл бұрын
@@learneroftruth9697 I actually agree with you! I didn't give because of a mandate. I believe God blesses when we don't hold onto things of this world too tightly.
@MtelH
@MtelH 5 жыл бұрын
I tithe based upon Malachi 3. I know there are abuses but I also know that God is able to supply all of my needs according to His riches and glory. Tithing, for me, is not obligation but a joyful decision. If you ever feel manipulated to tithe, don't do it. Let God speak to you about it because He loves a cheerful giver.
@pepehands8224
@pepehands8224 5 жыл бұрын
its 10% or nothing.
@theplatinumcaraudio
@theplatinumcaraudio 5 жыл бұрын
Well...Malachi 3 is talking to the priesthood which none of us are. Priests were literally stealing the meat and reselling it. Without learning the old testament we lose a lot of info. See 1 Samuel 2:12-17 Pastors use this to make people feel guilty. Believe it or not many seminaries teach pastors how to get people to "tithe" money. They also teach them that old testament law has passed but they hold on to tithing. Strangely enough money was never meant for a tithe. Remember when Jesus said render to ceasar want is cesars and render to God what is God's? On top of that if you did exhange money for a tithe you were penalized for it. I've had this discussion before and below is part of the convo. There is more than one tithe Types of Tithes 1. The Levitical Tithe Numbers 18:21-24New International Version (NIV) 21 “I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. 22 From now on the Israelites must not go near the tent of meeting, or they will bear the consequences of their sin and will die. 23 It is the Levites who are to do the work at the tent of meeting and bear the responsibility for any offenses they commit against it. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. They will receive no inheritance among the Israelites. 24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the Lord. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’” This was a tithe given to the Levites for their work. The Levites are the descendents of Levi, one of the twelve sons of Jacob (also known as Israel) which then became the twelve tribes of Israel. In the time of Moses, the entire tribe of Levi were designated as Priests, with Aaron as their High Priest. There duties were to take care of the upkeep and transportation of the Tabernacle (the physical representation of God's dwelling place) and to offer sacrifices on behalf of the people. (Who, in Old Testament times, were unable to access God by themselves.) The Levites still live to this day, as far as I know, but their office has become obsolete since the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, who now holds the office of Prophet, Priest and King for all people. In sense the Levitical Tithe is obsolete. 2. The Festival Tithe - Deuteronomy 14:22-27New International Version (NIV) 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. - Deuteronomy 16:16-17New International Version (NIV) 16 Three times a year all your men must appear before the Lord your God at the place he will choose: at the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the Festival of Weeks and the Festival of Tabernacles. No one should appear before the Lord empty-handed: 17 Each of you must bring a gift in proportion to the way the Lord your God has blessed you. This tithe was set aside for the festivals listed in the verse above. In sense the Festival Tithe is obsolete. However; should it be? Why is it that we don't keep to the festivals but we do celebrate Easter and Christmas which are not even mentioned in the bible and were never celebrated by anyone until the Romans adopted it from Pagan practices? Even still it wasn't until around 1860 that it became something big here in the US. That is a bit of another topic but I'd like to talk about that one too! 3. The Poor Tithe -Deuteronomy 14:28-29 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. -Deuteronomy 26:12 12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied. This tithe was for the poor and needy. It seems that the government has somewhat taken this one which isn't their responsibility. That's another topic too but not more political and I don't really talk politics. You mentioned it today and I was glad to hear it when you said that if someone doesn't feel comfortable giving to the church then give somewhere else where it is needed. I think a lot of people give in guilt thinking that they can't go to heaven or be accepted by God if they don't which to me is untrue. In turn some even give to the church and might want to be able to help someone in need and not be able to cause they gave their extra to the church or even say they can't cause they have to pay their tithe. That's where Matthew 23:23-25 kinda touches on. Helping others in need comes before the tithe. We shouldn't get so caught up in following the law and cause us to miss out on helping others in need. I know it is speaking on more than just that too. I just can't see Jesus saying to someone, "You gave that person all your money instead of to the church? Shame on you!" This tithe is still possible as I see it. I also understand that the church distributes this type of tithe to the poor and needy. As you stated today though, we can distribute it ourselves when we see fit.
@theplatinumcaraudio
@theplatinumcaraudio 5 жыл бұрын
4. The Priest Tithe This was the tithe for the Levites to give to the priests. - Numbers 18:25-32New International Version (NIV) 25 The Lord said to Moses, 26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the Lord’s offering. 27 Your offering will be reckoned to you as grain from the threshing floor or juice from the winepress. 28 In this way you also will present an offering to the Lord from all the tithes you receive from the Israelites. From these tithes you must give the Lord’s portion to Aaron the priest. 29 You must present as the Lord’s portion the best and holiest part of everything given to you.’30 “Say to the Levites: ‘When you present the best part, it will be reckoned to you as the product of the threshing floor or the winepress. 31 You and your households may eat the rest of it anywhere, for it is your wages for your work at the tent of meeting. 32 By presenting the best part of it you will not be guilty in this matter; then you will not defile the holy offerings of the Israelites, and you will not die.’” -Deuteronomy 18:1-2New International Version (NIV) 18 The Levitical priests-indeed, the whole tribe of Levi-are to have no allotment or inheritance with Israel. They shall live on the food offerings presented to the Lord, for that is their inheritance. 2 They shall have no inheritance among their fellow Israelites; the Lord is their inheritance, as he promised them. Leviticus 27:30-34New International Version (NIV) 30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock-every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod-will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’”34 These are the commands the Lord gave Moses at Mount Sinai for the Israelites. If you redeem your land or food tithe you must add 1/5 to it. 1/5 of 100% is 20%. 20%=10%=30%. OR add 1/5 of the value of the tithe. 1/5 of 10% is 2%=12%. Technically we don't give food/grain tithes so shouldn't we either pay a 30% tithe or depending on the interpretation of the scripture 12% tithe to be biblically correct? The descendants of Aaron were priests: Exodus 28:41-42 NIV 41 After you put these clothes on your brother Aaron and his sons, anoint and ordain them. Consecrate them so they may serve me as priests. 42 “Make linen undergarments as a covering for the body, reaching from the waist to the thigh. 43 Aaron and his sons must wear them whenever they enter the tent of meeting or approach the altar to minister in the Holy Place, so that they will not incur guilt and die. “This is to be a lasting ordinance for Aaron and his descendants. Technically only Aaron, his sons and descendants could be priests correct? Not even Jesus could be a priest: -Hebrews 8:4-5 4 If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. 5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” This tithe was for the priests. If no one but Aaron and his descendants could be priests then technically there are no more priests correct? There is no longer a temple. Biblically speaking can we even tithe the way it was commanded here? Having said all this I'm not saying we shouldn't give. I think it is important and God will bless us for doing so. He has me. I just found it interesting. I know we are instructed to give and God loves a cheerful giver.
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt 4 жыл бұрын
Malachi is written to priests who abused the tithe. Try again.
@Nitronerd
@Nitronerd 4 жыл бұрын
Do y'all practice all of the Law?
@sharonsdaughter3231
@sharonsdaughter3231 4 жыл бұрын
I literally just thought of this question... And thought, I bet Dave Ramsey has a video on this. Thank You !
@walth1119
@walth1119 3 жыл бұрын
1 Peter 2:4 in there greed they will come up with cleaver lies to get hold of your money
@bigdap100
@bigdap100 2 жыл бұрын
🤔To whom do you pay a tithe?? Anyone?
@DanielIles
@DanielIles 5 жыл бұрын
*If you really can’t afford it consider giving your TIME!*
@ultimaetsolder
@ultimaetsolder 5 жыл бұрын
No, they just want money. Your time is not valuable enough.
@AmayzinOne
@AmayzinOne 5 жыл бұрын
We cannot misguide anyone. You should always give a 1/10th of your income even if you don’t have much or are in a bind. God comes in front of the debt you have been given or the debt you have caused. Giving before you pay off your debt is an act of faith. A way to say: God I may be in a financial bind, but you are more important. I trust you with my money. In fact, if I had no money and all was taken from me, I’d still have everything I need in you. The very reason why you might be in a financial bind could be that God wants to move inside you. He wants you to trust Him even when things are chaotic and unknown. To the people compromising and saying, “Just give your time, or just give this instead.” Stop. Faith doesn’t compromise. God has the power to get you out of that financial bind and you are going to keep your 10% in a lack of faith that He can’t save your situation? Tithing is giving to God in praise and worship. It is a recognition that God is greater than any material item in this world. Give to Him first and He will help your situation. Trust Him in everything and with everything. Trust Him with your kids. Trust Him with your spouse. Trust Him with your money. Trust Him. Faith is as simple as that. And guess what? WHEN trials come, you will have built the faith to remain in Him fully, with your undivided love and trust.
@Dancestudent08
@Dancestudent08 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t even want to waste my time there either lol
@AmayzinOne
@AmayzinOne 5 жыл бұрын
Curtis Jordan Fair enough. But you’re probably not a Christian so move on.
@miltoncat
@miltoncat 5 жыл бұрын
Apex Funny Moments What? How do you know the state of one’s soul from one comment? And if this person is not a Christian, that changes nothing on how a Christian should treat them. So tired of an “us vs them” mentality when there is no such thing!
@JS-tr7oo
@JS-tr7oo 4 жыл бұрын
we just had a local pastor tell us not to pay the doctor bills for cancer, instead to pay our tithe. we got smart and walked out never to go back.
@bigsterms
@bigsterms 2 жыл бұрын
That church should've tried to help in some way.
@marielang9552
@marielang9552 Жыл бұрын
You’re 100% correct nowhere in the Bible does it say that you must tithe 10%?
@marielang9552
@marielang9552 Жыл бұрын
Malachi was for the Levi priests who were stealing from the store house. They got cursed not the people.
@Triple3GVD
@Triple3GVD Жыл бұрын
@@marielang9552 the word tithe literally translates 10% in Hebrew.
@blackberry8731
@blackberry8731 8 ай бұрын
If you realize everything we have comes from God, and we are a stewart of God's Money Tithing is not me giving God 10% of my money but Gods is letting me keep 90% of His Money Everything you have given me is yours God. The purpose of tithing is to teach us to always to put Gods first in our lives.
@yeyamusic
@yeyamusic 5 жыл бұрын
I’m non denominational Christian, I tithe , and I’ve seen God bless me as a result. I’ve lived from $500 in a month before, staying in a motel, and still tithed. He will reward you. He will restore you :)
@chelseahancock6933
@chelseahancock6933 5 жыл бұрын
Mahalia 'Yeya' Jean-Pierre this is so inspiring! I’m a single mom with two little ones, I’m definitely struggling but I never fail to tithe. I’m trusting the Lord.
@BriLoveMusic
@BriLoveMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@lifeinsession5632 Amen! Praise God for your testimony. We used to struggle to pay rent but kept tithing and now my husband makes tripple and is about to be promoted again. Girl, God always makes a way. 😊❤ God bless you and your loved ones in Jesus' name. 🙏💕
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist 4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea Hancock No offense... but if you pay to the gov already in so much, plus you have kids... I personally would not Tithe, unless I was in a really really well off position, and actually could afford it.
@Nzingathegem
@Nzingathegem 4 жыл бұрын
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist Your personal decision.
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist 4 жыл бұрын
The man and the boat.
@wiznup
@wiznup 3 жыл бұрын
Tithing is an Old Testament standard. The only standard in the New Testament is to give from a generous heart, the motivation is love, not compulsion.
@learneroftruth9697
@learneroftruth9697 2 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah, amen!
@t.b.t8073
@t.b.t8073 Ай бұрын
Please teach these guys who failed to understand between OT and NT.
@marcvinos6968
@marcvinos6968 19 күн бұрын
Nope wrong
@levijackson3145
@levijackson3145 5 жыл бұрын
Give from your heart with joy. God doesn't want you to give 10% and be bitter about it. Give something
@barbaraleszczynski2214
@barbaraleszczynski2214 4 жыл бұрын
Levi Jackson I hear ya! So true!
@walth1119
@walth1119 3 жыл бұрын
when i see a bum struggling i give them 10 bucks or buy them a lunch etc. Don't give no $$ to corrupt churches all a tithing scam
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605 3 жыл бұрын
One of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. You can sure try it if you enjoy giving.
@SHIFT21_
@SHIFT21_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605 yessss!!! that ministry is the best!!! the book is so inspiring if you haven't read it yet!!
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605 3 жыл бұрын
@@SHIFT21_ Awesome! I have never read it but I will try to find a copy. God bless you!
@InvestingHustler
@InvestingHustler 5 жыл бұрын
People might get offended by this but most religions are just businesses. You can be generous and do good without giving money away.
@Heyemeyohsts
@Heyemeyohsts 5 жыл бұрын
Churches are non-profits
@kublaikavkaz4732
@kublaikavkaz4732 5 жыл бұрын
Idiot.
@rochester3
@rochester3 5 жыл бұрын
@@Heyemeyohsts why do pasters need $50milno jets while the church is in need
@cmacdonald1197
@cmacdonald1197 5 жыл бұрын
Or give money to existing community services such as food banks, clothing donations etc. without paying for extra overhead (church building, pastor salary). I’m a Christian and think the house church movement is the way we should be doing things for numerous reasons, one of them is financial.
@postal1468
@postal1468 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I am going to Cheesecake Factory & rack up my bill...at the end I will not pay because I was hungry & they served me food 😁
@NoDebtButLove
@NoDebtButLove 5 жыл бұрын
It would bother me if I didn't tithe. It's a personal choice. 😃 I've noticed that tithing has improved my budgeting and strangely my debt is being paid down faster.
@Angelinesekle
@Angelinesekle 5 жыл бұрын
No Debt But Love because God is the Creator so when you obey Him, stuff be working out when it doesn’t even make sense! Bless you brother in Christ! Keep tithing
@NoDebtButLove
@NoDebtButLove 5 жыл бұрын
@@Angelinesekle Amen! Thank you and continued blessings to you as well.😃
@walth1119
@walth1119 3 жыл бұрын
Come on ?? what R U talking about ?? Nothing magic here. These guys R twisting scripture. it was food not money 1 Peter 2:4 in there greed they will come up with cleaver lies to get your money. Don't trust no pastor telling you what to do with your money. That pastor needs to get a job. Peter was a tent maker.
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605 3 жыл бұрын
If you need a better income CBN has UTube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth.
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
You can also try giving to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry, one of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to it. He believes him and his family are healthy and prosperous because they tithe to it.
@India-rd6wi
@India-rd6wi Жыл бұрын
Keep your money and pay your debts. It's that simple.
@darkstriker00
@darkstriker00 5 жыл бұрын
I notice that when I tithe even when I have a lot of bills to pay off I always end up with more money, hmmmmm.
@mimim7026
@mimim7026 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like b.s. to me! hmmmmm
@darkstriker00
@darkstriker00 5 жыл бұрын
@@mimim7026 sounds like you don't know that tithes are tax deductible, hmmmm
@pauljackson1456
@pauljackson1456 4 жыл бұрын
Makes no sense
@SilvioManfredDante85
@SilvioManfredDante85 4 жыл бұрын
I can attest to that!
@matthewgruter2937
@matthewgruter2937 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds spooky!
@berenicesansone482
@berenicesansone482 5 жыл бұрын
I just love you Dave! I'm not Christian and neither a religious person; your teachings just makes sense, regardless what faith you have. I am grateful we get to have you in this crazy world where there is so much to learn...
@msneedtoknow1
@msneedtoknow1 2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about given your life to Christ Jesus? This is not about religion.
@ALXSSA
@ALXSSA 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think you should ask yourself if you should tithe and no one else. That is a personal, spiritual question honestly.
@AaronHernandez-xv4qh
@AaronHernandez-xv4qh 5 жыл бұрын
ALXSSA yes!! I dislike when people try to push their beliefs on to others.
@nii-amon
@nii-amon 5 жыл бұрын
ALXSSA Good call. I totally agree with you.
@joshlunsford266
@joshlunsford266 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a crafty excuse for not listening to what the Bible clearly commands.....
@AaronHernandez-xv4qh
@AaronHernandez-xv4qh 5 жыл бұрын
JoshLunsford yeah but not everyone listens to the Bible..not necessarily speaking about herself.
@joshlunsford266
@joshlunsford266 5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Hernandez But Dave Ramsey does, and that’s who’s video it is, and there should be no question or objection to him simply stating what he believes.... in his video.... on his channel.....
@inacook2285
@inacook2285 5 жыл бұрын
Love you for this Dave...This message came at the right time...
@jamesbyerly766
@jamesbyerly766 5 жыл бұрын
The tithe doesnt need to be to the rich church. Just give. You call it.
@zachpalmero1356
@zachpalmero1356 5 жыл бұрын
By definition of tithe it actually does.
@yeppers7225
@yeppers7225 5 жыл бұрын
Most churches are not “rich”
@shereenhenry6474
@shereenhenry6474 5 жыл бұрын
He says to bring the tithe to His house.....His house is the church
@thomaseidson6374
@thomaseidson6374 5 жыл бұрын
The Bible specifically says to bring the tithe to the house of the Lord which is by definition your local church.
@zachpalmero1356
@zachpalmero1356 5 жыл бұрын
@@thomaseidson6374 I mean one would argue that the church is the Catholic Church but I really don't want a troubles era of conflict for this comment.
@sheldonspider86
@sheldonspider86 5 жыл бұрын
Tithing is Old Testament... Right along with sacrificing animals, stoning your children for disobedience and owning slaves. Why follow some of it and not all?
@leratoshokane8316
@leratoshokane8316 5 жыл бұрын
You are misinformed
@obits3
@obits3 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that regular tithing was just a tax system.
@sheldonspider86
@sheldonspider86 5 жыл бұрын
@Periwinkle Peryy Non-Jewish Christians do not have to keep kosher OR keep the sabbath. Read the letters of Paul and see the differences between Pauline Christianity and Jewish Christianity as practiced under James by the Jerusalem church. You're all over the place and are obviously only repeating something you were told.
@cocomarineblu993
@cocomarineblu993 5 жыл бұрын
There are also rules about how and why this was and a lot of this is challenged in the New Testament. Also some countries today under sharia law still allow this or at least execution for some things that shouldn’t be allowed
@pepehands8224
@pepehands8224 5 жыл бұрын
Fake news.
@diyswithangie7377
@diyswithangie7377 5 жыл бұрын
The main thing if you're going to give grudgely don't give...if not from the heart.....keep it 😎
@chopperinmylivingroom2335
@chopperinmylivingroom2335 5 жыл бұрын
Good advice!
@ryanweston9677
@ryanweston9677 5 жыл бұрын
Yes just keep it. It’s yours.
@TJ-oo5mx
@TJ-oo5mx 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan It's actually God's
@ryanweston9677
@ryanweston9677 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas J.B. I’m really sorry you’ve been brainwashed and are being swindled out if your money. I used to be in the same boat
@TJ-oo5mx
@TJ-oo5mx 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan It's great to see you replied, and I'd love to have a conversation regarding tithing. I'm assuming you are a Christian that believes in the Bible: Would that be correct?
@LushawnzLifestyle
@LushawnzLifestyle 5 жыл бұрын
You can also give of your time and or your talents to be a giver when tithing is not an option at that time.
@nevets19681969
@nevets19681969 5 жыл бұрын
LushawnzLifestyle Mosiah 2:17. And behold, I tell you these things that ye may learn wisdom; that ye may learn that when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God.
@CORT0619
@CORT0619 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that if giving of your time ONLY were sufficient then the bible would say to just give your time. Giving of your time would be in addition. But regardless that's between the person and God.
@jesucripto369
@jesucripto369 5 жыл бұрын
In these times we live, Time is Equivalent to Money... so give what you can... God Knows it all, no need to explain to any church members or seek any advice
@kylercook7968
@kylercook7968 5 жыл бұрын
LushawnzLifestyle So much twisting and leading astray of new believers and unbelievers. Be careful listening to people like this lady that don’t know the Bible. She will tell you what your itching ears want to hear.
@LushawnzLifestyle
@LushawnzLifestyle 5 жыл бұрын
@@kylercook7968 Reading is fundamental, comprehension is a must.
@melvinmcdougal6226
@melvinmcdougal6226 4 жыл бұрын
I tithe and have been blessed with far greater than the meager 10% of my income. I don't think I could afford not to tithe.
@isaiahmartinez2061
@isaiahmartinez2061 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I feel. God can do more with my 10 then I could do with the 100
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605 3 жыл бұрын
One of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. You can sure try it if you enjoy giving.
@LanAnhWellness
@LanAnhWellness 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave for your thoughts on tithing. Though our family is not at a 10% goal for tithing yet, we found that tithing has helped us budget better and pay off debts faster. There are times when it feels really tight, but I trust in our Heavenly Father and we'll try to give more to support those in need.
@hellenmwelwa8263
@hellenmwelwa8263 6 ай бұрын
Sweetheart can I chat with you secretly?
@EveryTongue
@EveryTongue 3 жыл бұрын
Blessing to Dave and the whole crew!
@Adam-mj5hl
@Adam-mj5hl Жыл бұрын
I graduated law school in 2017 with a lot of student debt. Under my student loan income-based repayment plan, I pay 10% of my discretionary income in monthly student loan payments. If I tithed 10% of my monthly income, I would be essentially be making another student loan payment every month.
@MrKage95
@MrKage95 3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer "giving" over "tithing". Tithe is obligatory, and tends to reinforce 10%. But giving beyond 10% is encouraged and praised. Give generously!
@awaiting_YHWH_return
@awaiting_YHWH_return Жыл бұрын
So why not give all you money
@cheerfulmouse
@cheerfulmouse Жыл бұрын
Even when paying down debt?!
@thrufaithalone
@thrufaithalone Жыл бұрын
There was more than one tithe, all *only* for the Jews that made their living off the land. It never applied to Christians. It was always food. Listen to George W. Greene's videos. The tithe was only for the Jews. There is not a single instruction for Christians to tithe in the NT. It's for the Jewish people's religious system - when they had the temple. Even Jews don't tithe since it was destroyed. There is no storehouse. There are no priests.
@stacylewis4894
@stacylewis4894 5 жыл бұрын
I need to watch this clip every day to keep myself on the right path. I pull down a decent income doing finance/computer stuff in a good cause but I also do painting demos on weekends. They don't pay me that much but I really enjoy hearing back from mothers saying "after my boy met you he painted all week!" These aren't children or people flirting with art, these are serious students with discipline who are focused on bringing beauty into other people's lives. I remember one 7- or 8- year-old who was positively grilling me on my technique and finally whipped out a pad and started taking notes - if that doesn't humble you I don't know what will! I operate in a different context/paradigm than Dave but I can completely relate to his transfer of passionate illumination.
@trebmaster
@trebmaster 5 жыл бұрын
Dave keeps saying it's indisputable that Christians need to tithe...the only issuance of it as a command is in the Old Testament, and the New Testament teaching in the covenant brought in by Jesus Christ's death, burial, and resurrection teaches in 2 Cor. 9:7 that "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." This is wholly different from a tithe since "as he has decided in his heart" is not a set percentage. We need to stop saying tithes are for New Testament Christians. There is no ceiling or floor for it. Just be generous with what you can give.
@stalstonestacy4316
@stalstonestacy4316 4 жыл бұрын
Do not forget that Jesus himself says he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. The new covenant doesn't eliminate the the old, only completes it.
@rachels594
@rachels594 4 жыл бұрын
Very well put
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 4 жыл бұрын
And if Christ fulfilled the law, then we who are in him are no longer under the law (see Romans 7 for Paul’s thoughts on this).
@kathycuddles1
@kathycuddles1 4 жыл бұрын
yes, he fulfilled the law, so we wouldn't be under its bondage. My thing is why do so many extract tithing from the law, change it from meat to money, even though money was very relevant, and apply it to Christians. Yet many do not practice all other things under the ceremonial law, in which tithing was categorized under? If we follow one part of the law, we must follow it all, or we're guilty of it all. A monetary tithe as a Commandment is found nowhere in scripture. If a person gives 10% let it be by choice. If a person can only give below that, or even above, let it be done according to their heart. God bless and Merry Christmas...
@nomatusi7514
@nomatusi7514 4 жыл бұрын
@@stalstonestacy4316 You should give as much as you can. God loves a cheerful giver. If you tithe do it the right way. There are 3 types of tithe described in the Bible (1)...Abraham tithed once in his life time. He gave the spoils of the war not his properties. If you ever win a war give the spoils of the war. (2)...The Pharisees tithed mint, dill and cumin (3)...The Priests (Levites) did not have inheritance. They did not own the land. The other 11 tribes of Israel were to give them tithe. Pick one and do it rightly. Remember if you pick # 3 you have to obey the other 613 laws.
@ultimaetsolder
@ultimaetsolder 5 жыл бұрын
I give over 50 percent of my income via taxes. Sales tax, income tax, property tax, etc.
@rb7454
@rb7454 5 жыл бұрын
“Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar and to God what is God’s.” -Jesus ; that meant pay your taxes and your tithe. They are not the same thing.
@obits3
@obits3 5 жыл бұрын
Roman Berezutskiy - the tithe was the Biblical tax base for Israel. I invite you to actually read your Bible and not just listen to the cliff-notes passed down from preacher to preacher.
@brandoncadena08
@brandoncadena08 5 жыл бұрын
@@obits3 able gave the first fruits of his harvest to God. Abraham gave "a tenth of everything" to Melchizedek a priest of God. Tithing goes back a long thousands of years before Israel and the law. It is not and was not a baseline tax, it is an offering to God giving him thanks for what he has blessed you with.
@obits3
@obits3 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Cadena - Abraham and Jacob’s tithes were not the “reap and sow” tithes preached today. They gave 10% of the riches they gained as thanks to God (Abraham) and to keep his word to God (Jacob actually said he would tithe if God made him wealthy).
@AmayzinOne
@AmayzinOne 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Forge Please quit compromising Tom. You are making it seem like a burden that God asks us to give 10% to Him. This is the God of the universe we are talking about. Showing faith by giving to God (also growing His church) should be what we desire, not what we complain about. Quit trying to convince yourself that you have no flaw in your argument.
@y2ksierra
@y2ksierra 5 жыл бұрын
No taxes and people give you their pay check? Can't seem to figure out why there are so many churches...
@freshtake6984
@freshtake6984 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Ramsey is a religious shill pretending to help people when he’s actually costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars over their lifetime by advocating voluntary payments to religious institutions.
@tonibarrett8809
@tonibarrett8809 5 жыл бұрын
Speak The Word! 👏🏼 it’s in The Book
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a story "a priest a minister and a rabbi are all talking and having a drink, and the priest says, 'in our church we draw a circle and throw our money into the air and whatever lands inside thw circle we gove to god' the minister chimes in saying 'we do something like that but the money that falls outside the circle we give to god' they ask what the rabbi does and the rabbi says 'oh waht we do, is we throw our money in that air and whatever god dosen't want he lets fall back to earth'"
@brokelembe8402
@brokelembe8402 5 жыл бұрын
Our pastor has one of the nicest cars in town. Benz S-class. gets swapped out every 3 years for the new model.
@pepehands8224
@pepehands8224 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@mimim7026
@mimim7026 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you still go to that church? Are you into "prosperity gospel" or what?
@mimim7026
@mimim7026 5 жыл бұрын
@Owl_Lover Pastor and Swindler. But I repeat myself...
@aubreyhayes583
@aubreyhayes583 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it’s probably 3 year leases
@SA007BARR
@SA007BARR 4 жыл бұрын
So what? Maybe somebody in the church buys it for him as a gift. Not really up to you to judge the motives here. If you don’t like it, don’t go to that church
@Phoenix-wy3qi
@Phoenix-wy3qi 3 жыл бұрын
Great response, thanks dave, really like your videos
@SteezoENT
@SteezoENT 5 жыл бұрын
Tithe is very possibly even when climbing out of debt. If you tithe you will have a blessed 90% of your income opposed to cursed 100%. Also God Blessed me during my debt steps and Someone is paying all my student loans over 120k
@raiden031
@raiden031 3 жыл бұрын
My kids will each have 120k in debt if I sacrifice 529 contributions for tithing.
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏
@thewatcher4552
@thewatcher4552 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think It's God will to build up debt anyway but regardless he is faithful
@JordanMadera
@JordanMadera 5 жыл бұрын
$1000 a month?!?!?!?!?!? Nope :/
@treyatl2006
@treyatl2006 5 жыл бұрын
Tithing is definitely at odds with Ramsey Baby steps. Well atleast until you get to Baby step #7. I'm just saying.... He is very rigid in most areas. This is one area where he isn't consistent.
@zacharybohlman4069
@zacharybohlman4069 5 жыл бұрын
treyatl2006 and if he was asked "should I give directly to a family member in baby steps" he'd likely say no. The core of his advice is sound but on some topics I have to disagree
@jacobearnhart7610
@jacobearnhart7610 5 жыл бұрын
Dave has always said that if you can’t make it on 90% then you can’t make it on 100%. He’s always acknowledged that there is likely much more you can cut from your budget and tighten the belt down a notch to still give your tithe freely and still work the baby’s steps. He also tells you that the tithe is not a spiritual disqualifer, and Dave doesn’t dive into the debate of 10% gross or net pay, God wants us to give and give freely. So no the tithe is not at odds with the baby steps, if you’ve read his books,followed his teachings closely and listened intentionally you would see this quite clearly, to say otherwise would be calling his integrity into question, which I and many others find is above reproach
@zacharybohlman4069
@zacharybohlman4069 5 жыл бұрын
jacob Earnhart well someone who is doing the baby steps can't make it at all that's the whole point. Someone who is in debt is basically paying interest to tithe. What sort of God wouldn't want His child to help themselves out of financial dispair? Seems a bit counter-intuitive to me. Dave is a good guy but he's no prophet. He's just a guy with a microphone.
@stalstonestacy4316
@stalstonestacy4316 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobearnhart7610 well said, sir!
@leahstewart6979
@leahstewart6979 4 жыл бұрын
It looks as if he’s not consistent because this is a spiritual issue. It doesn’t always make sense to unbelievers. I joyfully tithed unemployment and NEVER ran out of money for over a year....and unemployment only lasted 4 months. I was faithful with a little and God showed up and made sure i never ran out.
@LisiLisichan
@LisiLisichan 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the word, didn't even know what that is.
@jackdiddIey
@jackdiddIey 2 жыл бұрын
Don't tithe, GIVE. As Christians, we are to give cheerfully and not out of necessity. Give whatever amount you want, is you sow sparingly, you will reap sparingly, if you sow bountifully, you will reap bountifully
@xensan76
@xensan76 5 жыл бұрын
If you must tithe, give it to a church in need. There are thousands of small churches closing due to the lack of money. These ones are likely ministering to those most in need. Don't just donate to the nearest available one.
@nicholasalonzo3499
@nicholasalonzo3499 5 жыл бұрын
Give it to the one you go to. Just cause a church is closing doesn't mean God wills for it to not close.
@libertarian4323
@libertarian4323 5 жыл бұрын
If I do that, how is Pastor Duplantis going to pay for his new jet? $54,000,000.00 doesn't grow on trees!
@nicholasalonzo3499
@nicholasalonzo3499 5 жыл бұрын
@@libertarian4323 ooooo bummer I guess nobody told you your not supposed to go to prosperity gospel churches. Well I guess now you know. 👍👍
@universallove878
@universallove878 5 жыл бұрын
Make sure you research the church and learn how the administration of it operates. Too many people give just for giving sake. Also is the church involved in its members lives when problems arise? Or you have to make appointments with pastoral staff only? Social Justice issues? Community causes? It makes a difference. I'm not giving for a jet, when Jon and Sarah cant make rent.
@jamesenslin8461
@jamesenslin8461 2 жыл бұрын
Paul never instructed tithing to the churches.
@WJTutora
@WJTutora 5 жыл бұрын
The tithe is also a way we show God that we trust him as a source of our provision.
@mimim7026
@mimim7026 5 жыл бұрын
presumably, god knows if you trust him, irrespective of tithing, because of that whole "all-knowing, all-seeing" thing...
@famelitech
@famelitech 4 жыл бұрын
Do drug lords and non-Christians tithe? and why are some rich than Christians?
@redscorpion9325
@redscorpion9325 4 жыл бұрын
Witney Jiménez What is taxes,we’re already tithing without even knowing it
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t give to a church. Be the church and give to those who are in need.
@hzuiel
@hzuiel 2 жыл бұрын
@Phillip Malone Tithing as you think of it is not either.
@jbcheck5517
@jbcheck5517 5 жыл бұрын
Amen, God Bless you Dave.
@thestarvingcartoonartist864
@thestarvingcartoonartist864 5 жыл бұрын
The two mentioned are not the only ones who tithe. Baptists and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints also give tithing and fast offerings.
@brendasgirl90
@brendasgirl90 5 жыл бұрын
Those come under the Christian category
@Helthurian
@Helthurian 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. Focus on your debt.
@obits3
@obits3 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, any debt your currently owe should be paid first. As Jesus said, first make up with your brother and then give your gift to the church.
@jesucripto369
@jesucripto369 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%
@pepehands8224
@pepehands8224 5 жыл бұрын
No.
@tl57345
@tl57345 5 жыл бұрын
Everything we are, have and will receive comes from God. The tithe is meant to acknowledge this truth and also to inoculate us from our own greed.
@ShadaeMastersAstrology
@ShadaeMastersAstrology 5 жыл бұрын
tl57345 How are we giving to God when regular men are passing around the collection plates? Churches should be honest and just say that the money is for the upkeep of the church, not God.
@steve41557
@steve41557 5 жыл бұрын
True. But why work overtime if a good chunk goes to taxes and tithing?
@tl57345
@tl57345 5 жыл бұрын
Venus Unlocked, before we worry about tithing which is or response to Jesus’ finished work on the cross. The Father loved us so much that he sent his one and only Son to die for my sins and for the sins of all who would place their faith in him. If you haven’t accepted Jesus’ death as a complete and full payment for your sin, then please consider this first. Once you trust in Him you will see the tithe isn’t to earn His favor but simply a response to the most valuable gift creation has ever seen. Yes, myself and others who bear the name of Christ still sin. Please do not let the sins of man taint your perception of the perfection of Jesus.
@kathycuddles1
@kathycuddles1 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds good, but it's not biblical.
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt 4 жыл бұрын
False
@raiden031
@raiden031 3 жыл бұрын
I could not imagine tithing 10% of my income. My financial situation would be exponentially more stressful.
@markb7067
@markb7067 3 жыл бұрын
The good news is you don't have to tithe at all. There's no such thing as a biblical monetary tithe. We are free to give as we are able and lead, but not bound to pay as many would have us believe.
@Scorpiomaj27889
@Scorpiomaj27889 2 жыл бұрын
Is it better for the church to have financially strong members paying big time later on or money in the bank now and more members struggling? If the church isn't in the red now, I'll get my own financial house in order first. What is tithing really at the end of the day? Paying the church's bills.
@ericsloan858
@ericsloan858 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scorpiomaj27889 If you don't give a dollar when you only have 10 dollars, you won't give a 1000 when you have 10000. If you are in a faithful church, they are preaching the gospel and doing missions, feeding the poor, helping those in need. That's what you're giving to
@thrufaithalone
@thrufaithalone Жыл бұрын
The Bible doesn't tell Christians to tithe. It was for the Jews and their religious system. There were 3, perhaps 4 tithes, and they were always food and only those that made their living off the land tithed and the tithe was only on the increase. If someone had 10 cows and only one gave birth, they didn't owe anything. Listen to George W. Greene's videos. Read your Bible. The tithe is not for Christians. I tried tithing before I found out it doesn't apply to us. You cannot give your way out of debt. Jesus and his family did not tithe. I am so tired of Christians being taught the tithe lie.
@ryano4684
@ryano4684 5 жыл бұрын
You could volunteer your time to make up for not tithing.
@whz4life
@whz4life 5 жыл бұрын
Gods not real
@urbanfabchic
@urbanfabchic 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan O .....No
@pepehands8224
@pepehands8224 5 жыл бұрын
no. pay up your 10%.
@brokelembe8402
@brokelembe8402 5 жыл бұрын
How about tithe AND volunteer?
@ryano4684
@ryano4684 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of judgey Christians on here
@SD4Grace
@SD4Grace 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite answers!
@jamesenslin8461
@jamesenslin8461 2 жыл бұрын
Prosperity teaching is greedy and not the Gospel.
@MayaDTV
@MayaDTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏾
@jennifertackett2241
@jennifertackett2241 5 жыл бұрын
I have debt. I also still donate to a few favorite causes/charities. I do not belong to, nor do I tithe to, any church. The causes I do donate to, I don't give 10%. Not yet, anyway, i can't afford to. I also donate my time, as well as goods and services. Between that and my cash donations, it probably comes out to more than 10%. Someday, when I am (comfortably) wealthy, I will give so much more. But until then, I have to take care of myself before I take care of anyone else.
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏
@thrufaithalone
@thrufaithalone Жыл бұрын
@@christslove8121 Yeah, I used to give to CBN, too. Way too much. I was on disability. I could not tithe my way to prosperity or health. The health and wealth gospel is not of God.
@pseudonymshqipe854
@pseudonymshqipe854 5 жыл бұрын
I understand the significance and importance of helping others. One must help his or herself first though.
@helpme2helpu39
@helpme2helpu39 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this 👍🙏
@ChristCoin
@ChristCoin 5 жыл бұрын
Requiring churchgoers to give 10 percent of their income is hypocritical for any leader who isn’t living like a Levite. You pour in the tithe, pull down the handle of faith, and out come God’s blessings. The truth is that we don’t buy God’s blessings. As New Covenant saints, we’re already blessed with every spiritual blessing (Ephesians 1: 3).
@joshford7828
@joshford7828 4 жыл бұрын
How is the church run, the pastor paid, his family fed? Or do you believe he should work an 8-4 job, then preach 2 days a week and be at your beck and call 24-7 as advisor, prayer partner, counselor, marry and bury everyone? Dont hide behind the new covenant grace to neglect your Shepard claiming he must be a levite.
@hzuiel
@hzuiel 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshford7828 There are lots of people who have done it, and continue to do it. Happily and gladly.
@simplywine00
@simplywine00 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t Tithe, but I do donate to private charity and other little things, donate blood and plan on giving my time. I have noticed that when I make donations, my life gets better, abundance is attracted into my life. I don’t give in order to get, it’s just something that happens. I’m naturally a person that enjoys giving, I cannot stand receiving gifts (it may sound odd to most people but it’s true)
@marlonecampbell1750
@marlonecampbell1750 3 жыл бұрын
Bible says give a portion according to your income
@Phat737
@Phat737 5 жыл бұрын
This was a timely video. I’ve been struggling with this question for a while. Thanks Dave.
@frazierlong2471
@frazierlong2471 5 жыл бұрын
That is God
@CorvetteAustin24
@CorvetteAustin24 5 жыл бұрын
@@frazierlong2471 No, it's the youtube algorithm
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely watch CBN's utube videos about tithing and financial freedom, the people in the videos share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income.
@millsathn
@millsathn 3 жыл бұрын
Answer is no. Also after you finish paying off debt.
@robertlandau6429
@robertlandau6429 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't get much clearer than this.......... "Give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”
@JS-tr7oo
@JS-tr7oo 4 жыл бұрын
this man is no different from Jim Bakker, and every other con out there. He makes his money off you. the church buildings promote his books and schools. get it?
@JS-tr7oo
@JS-tr7oo 4 жыл бұрын
@Miari Bishop But they won't until they learn the hard way like I did. Then when you try to tell them the truth they don't want to hear it. They will never tell you of all the people that tithed instead of paying doctor bills, tithed instead of paying their mortgage, etc and wound up homeless. They will never tell you that because they are rich. Get it? Read the entire book of Romans. I put my trust in Jesus Christ not a mosaic law that does not apply to me, never did. It only applied to the Priests. That was done away with in Jesus Christ. That is what the entire book of Romans is talking about. Bother to read it people. Instead of parroting how you think you got a high paying job because you tithed? Really? What did satan offer Jesus? Everything. satan blesses his own.
@DrewDienno
@DrewDienno 2 жыл бұрын
the 10% is a silly benchmark. scriptures indicate it’s anywhere from occasional 10% tithes to regularly tithing 20% or more. you’re asked to give to charitable causes if you’re able to, give sacrificial and generously, but jesus does not require tithing since the mosaic covenant expired after his resurrection.
@arthrodea
@arthrodea 5 жыл бұрын
soo... if they would go from $2000/month (to debt) to $1000/month. That means their tithe would be $1000/month. As a tenth of their income, they're bringing in 10,000 a month. So how about trimming back that budget a little more? Surely they could give $1000/month (if they wanted) and still come up with $2000 or MORE to put towards debt. Do they really need $8000 a month for expenses?
@AmayzinOne
@AmayzinOne 5 жыл бұрын
People don’t give to God because they have to make room for their selfishness. This is ALWAYS the issue.
@ErrorPagenotFound-ig1cy
@ErrorPagenotFound-ig1cy 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, genius, where did the video mention that they make $10,000 a month? Stop assuming stuff, you’re making yourself look foolish.
@arthrodea
@arthrodea 5 жыл бұрын
@@ErrorPagenotFound-ig1cy I did the math. Dave states in the beginning They are putting $2000 a month towards debt. If they tithe, it cuts that amount down by half. (so they are tithing $1,000/month, which is half of $2,000/month). A tithe is 10% of your income - so $1,000 is 10% of their pay. Therefore their pay is 1,000 x 10 = 10,000 dollars a month. Now some people do 10% of their take home pay, some do 10% of their gross income before taxes. But they are making somewhere in the ballpark of 10K a month. Unless they are giving a HUGE "tithe" which is much more than 10%.
@jennifertackett2241
@jennifertackett2241 5 жыл бұрын
So right now, they are putting only 20% towards debt? Where is their money going?
@ambert5790
@ambert5790 Жыл бұрын
I just recently paid off my debt with Western Dental and I'm telling you it has been a big weight off my shoulders
@TWDxKILL3R
@TWDxKILL3R 5 жыл бұрын
You can tithe in a lot of ways...... don’t listen to these brick and mortar churches hat tell you that you HAVE to give 10% of your check to them.... you can give 10% to anything or anyone..... I quit going to my church because the preacher got obsessed with it and said it all has to go to them because we are members.......
@nomatusi7514
@nomatusi7514 4 жыл бұрын
You should give as much as you can. God loves a cheerful giver. If you tithe do it the right way. There are 3 types of tithe described in the Bible (1)...Abraham tithed once in his life time. He gave the spoils of the war not his properties. If you ever win a war give the spoils of the war. (2)...The Pharisees tithed mint, dill and cumin (3)...The Priests (Levites) did not have inheritance. They did not own the land. The other 11 tribes of Israel were to give them tithe. Pick one and do it rightly. Remember if you pick # 3 you have to obey the other 613 laws.
@jacoblatham7053
@jacoblatham7053 3 жыл бұрын
The bible says to give your tithe to your local church "store house" so actually you do need to give your tithe to your church. God designed tithe to work like that. But you should tithe to a church that you trust. The church that I go to only a small percent of the church was paying their tithes and the pastor touched on it but its their jobs to guide you spiritually which your tithes are very well a spiritual representation of your obedience.
@nomatusi7514
@nomatusi7514 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacoblatham7053 A Church is not a storehouse. A storehouse is a storehouse. You do not that cows, goat, crops to Church. Tithe was also enjoyed by the tithers in what was called festival tithe.
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏
@pants8029
@pants8029 5 жыл бұрын
Tithing is a test of faith. So is paying off debt. Paying tithing helps me manage money more effectively and bless others. It's really that simple.
@thrufaithalone
@thrufaithalone Жыл бұрын
George W. Greene videos. You need to read your Bible.
@kevinmoore9524
@kevinmoore9524 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@indigochild4664
@indigochild4664 4 жыл бұрын
Tithing frees me up to do work I have to do! When I don’t tithe I find I waste time more, and money disappears, tithing helps me be a better version of myself, and shows God I put him first!
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you do but if you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. Just a suggestion. 🤗🙏
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605
@sierrasiennasavahnadesertn6605 3 жыл бұрын
One of my pastors preaches a similar story only it's about his blessings from tithing to Voice Of The Martyrs Ministry. He believes him and his family are healthy and prosperous because they tithe to that ministry. And someone gave them a big beautiful house when they started tithing to it.
@vanvan-yw7iw
@vanvan-yw7iw 3 жыл бұрын
Same here 👍
@jamesenslin8461
@jamesenslin8461 2 жыл бұрын
Tithing was a forced law for Isreal,Grace is an unforced, cheerful giving what you want to give.
@AnonymousUser_86
@AnonymousUser_86 5 ай бұрын
My issue with tithing is that churches have now made this practice feel more like a Christian subscription fee, rather than a demonstration of faith in God. Also, it’s become less attractive to me to give to a church that has the appearance of being already wealthy. I personally would rather give to the needy directly than tithe to a “business”, because ultimately, that seems to be what modern churches evolved into.
@hadassahgrace5
@hadassahgrace5 4 жыл бұрын
I love the viewpoint of doing out of a joyful heart of obedient so much better though
@rb7454
@rb7454 5 жыл бұрын
Dave other people tithe too. Orthdox Christians and Catholic Christians tithe to。 it’s not just the evangelicals. We read the same bible and our “branch” of Christianity is 2,000 years old.
@fireeye33
@fireeye33 5 жыл бұрын
Roman Berezutskiy nope catholic dont tithe....i came from catholic family
@Dangerous_Nerd
@Dangerous_Nerd 5 жыл бұрын
@@fireeye33 We Catholics do not bind ourselves to the Mosaic law. We are mandated to give, but the 10% rule is excluded in preference to loving choice.
@fireeye33
@fireeye33 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Saunders yes bc Catholic teaching when it comes to giving offerings are based on the early church teaching. Back in those days there were no teaching about 10% tithe. The tithing idea came after prosperity theology is created as well as hypergrace theology...sadly all came from America.
@Dangerous_Nerd
@Dangerous_Nerd 5 жыл бұрын
@@pepehands8224 Hah; no.
@cynthiaosby3356
@cynthiaosby3356 5 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as a catholic Christian, it's either one or the other! Not both!
@Noemitowers23
@Noemitowers23 5 жыл бұрын
I became a Christian 5 years ago after growing up Jehovah’s Witness (where they don’t tithe). I started at 5% because I was kind of scared of tithing but felt lead to do that. After just a couple weeks I felt very comfortable giving 10%. This was all my decisions and never felt pressured from anyone else or less loved by God if I didn’t. Now our family tithes 10% of everything we make and we have a giving fund on top of that. I feel that’s what makes us happiest because we are connected to our church and see that they’re using the money for good. So I guess all of that to say that it’s really all up to the individual and what they feel led to do.
@OfficialYounginwell
@OfficialYounginwell 5 жыл бұрын
You left the truth? Noemi Guerrero
@Noemitowers23
@Noemitowers23 5 жыл бұрын
Weldon C. No, I left the JW church. I actually found the truth after leaving that behind, it was the best decision of my life.
@marcoramirez313
@marcoramirez313 4 жыл бұрын
Noemi Guerrero what do jw believe ??
@trekmaniamb
@trekmaniamb 5 жыл бұрын
By far the worst advice he has ever given. Might as well flush your money down the toilet
@random-nz7dy
@random-nz7dy 5 жыл бұрын
Hence the context of the answer. This question was asked by an Evangelical Christian most likely so he's answering for them. Of course people who are not Christian are not going to be tithing.
@nancypritchard7575
@nancypritchard7575 5 жыл бұрын
I give nearly 10 percent now, but I don't TITHE to an individual church. I give where I feel there is most need at the time. While I was on BBS2, the percentage varied. It was whatever I could do at the time. I feel that God still blessed my efforts!
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
And one of my pastors is always pleading for people to give to Voice Of The Martyrs ministry. He believes him and his family are prosperous and healthy because they tithe to that ministry.
@dj_6ix20two6
@dj_6ix20two6 5 жыл бұрын
I’m don’t consider myself a Christian/catholic/ etc. I AM A CHRIST FOLLOWER. A child of the Most High. I ready the Bible, learn about Jesus, go to church, and try to imitate Jesus and his actions/love/forgiveness etc. Only He and you truly know your heart and intentions. I don’t believe the word of the Bible is meant to be taken literal in a lot of cases in reference to numbers and things of that nature. I believe it’s meant to be symbolic and taken with context. Not so much that if you make 100k a year you’re bound to give 10 thousand to the church. There are so many more ways to “tithe” than just with. God bless you all.
@pepehands8224
@pepehands8224 5 жыл бұрын
Stop complicating things and just tithe.
@cameronsantiago3155
@cameronsantiago3155 5 жыл бұрын
@@pepehands8224 Why are you commenting on every comment. Seem to have a pretty stuck up opinion...
@AkaRuby
@AkaRuby 5 жыл бұрын
"'Will a man rob God? Yet you are robbing Me!' You ask: 'How do we rob You?' 'By not making the payments of the tenth and the contributions'" (Mal. 3:8)
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
If you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. 🤗🙏
@theplatinumcaraudio
@theplatinumcaraudio 5 жыл бұрын
I don't give to a church building anymore. I did for years but now I find people who need money and give it to them. I'm not looking for a tax break and I really don't keep up with how much I give. I know what 10% is for every month but there are some months I probably give more and some less. I dont keep up with a percentage but supply the need when it arises. Gove out of your heart and not "by the book." Remember it is about the heart. Learn to give money away without getting something back out of it (tax deduction). It doesn't even cross my mind anymore. If you learn how to be generous it's easy to do. Be a cheerful giver! Would I like to have a new truck? Sure but thst money can help someone else less fortunate.
@MarieRhondelle
@MarieRhondelle 5 жыл бұрын
It just seems odd that Dave would tell a person in debt not to give money to family but tithing is fine. Dave usually is pretty rigid about not giving while in debt.
@cristonureste9250
@cristonureste9250 4 жыл бұрын
Some people feel that God is more important than money. And some people also believe that God will provide for them all things.
@hzuiel
@hzuiel 2 жыл бұрын
@@cristonureste9250 Well then some people are dumb.
@thrufaithalone
@thrufaithalone Жыл бұрын
Jesus condemned the Jewish religious leaders doing that - Mark 7:9-13 "And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[a] your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’[b] and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)- then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
@nickhill8612
@nickhill8612 4 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about leaving my church for over a year now and I do pray about it. The reason is our church is so unorganized especially when it comes to money. It seems like no one knows how much money the church really has and the pastor is very secret about it and that has caused people to go to other churches.
@charlies.5777
@charlies.5777 5 жыл бұрын
I used to tithe, until I was driving down the road in my hooptie and saw my priest blow-by in his NEW Lamborghini!! THAT did It for me!!😀
@kylercook7968
@kylercook7968 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you should have gone to a church with a genuine pastor, not given up doing what God has asked, but...idk?
@garypratt1453
@garypratt1453 Жыл бұрын
Important presentation
@Promance2300
@Promance2300 4 жыл бұрын
That's one well off church!
@gracielarocha736
@gracielarocha736 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@duckpwnd
@duckpwnd 5 жыл бұрын
Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute.
@michaelpetzold452
@michaelpetzold452 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not,you can be generous without money
@1enoch194
@1enoch194 5 ай бұрын
Don't do it if you have debt. Take care of your family first. He is a loving God and understands you need to get yourself in a position to give first.
@JCpNK
@JCpNK 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like a 10th of your Salary for someone who is in debt and therefore had no money and broke is lunacy.. I feel like you should give what you feel led to give in your heart.. You know what’s right and wrong before you ask it.. Also I stopped giving to church’s years ago because of all the corruption and lies.. You’re better off helping people that are struggling individually vs lining the pockets of a business who doesn’t even tithe themselves
@nryanmusic
@nryanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true
@mrspalms4503
@mrspalms4503 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget who gives you the strength to get money so you could pay off all that debt. Deuteronomy 8:18 ❤️🙏
@bobbyb7672
@bobbyb7672 5 жыл бұрын
Pay your own debt. Tell your pastor God will provide for the building fund.
@JS-tr7oo
@JS-tr7oo 4 жыл бұрын
dave ramsey needs your money LOL
@mollynavarro4101
@mollynavarro4101 11 ай бұрын
Dave! Loved this! Question, do I have to tithe to a church? Can I give to an organization instead? I recently moved to a new city and I haven’t found a church to go too, I’m wondering getting to a local charity , homeless shelter, or give to multiple charities are acceptable?
@niks8521
@niks8521 4 жыл бұрын
Malachi 3:10 says that we WILL receive "food in our storehouses" if we pay our tithes. God says to TRY ME NOW. He will literally open up the windows of Heaven and pour out blessings. So it is not only essential to being materially or financially blessed, but most importantly spiritually blessed!
@markb7067
@markb7067 4 жыл бұрын
I love Dave and the many good things he and his organization do for others. I just happen to disagree with his assessment of tithing for the following reasons (and several others). 1. There's no such thing as a biblical monetary tithe. Abrahams "tithe" was a one-time event, off spoils of war, involved an exchange (he received wine and food) and involved none of his personal wealth. Tithing under Mosaic law was strictly limited to items of the land - produce and livestock. Again, no money. 2. The indictments in Malachi were directed at the Levitical Priesthood, not all of Israel and have no bearing on us today, and none of it had to do with money. 3. There is nothing in the bible that promises a blessing for giving money to a church (or otherwise) or a curse for not doing so. Giving is a different matter but tithing can't be considered an act of faith or giving as it was a compulsory ordinance under Mosaic law and likely a pagan custom in the case of Abraham. I do agree with Dave that we should improve our personal balance sheets to the point where we can make a meaningful difference through giving according to our convictions. Fulfillment is what happens when good goes through you and usually happiness is thrown in with the deal.
@Clicked_SnoopyFr
@Clicked_SnoopyFr Жыл бұрын
You my friend , have a heart problem not a tithing problem.
@mbaguy627
@mbaguy627 Жыл бұрын
Bless you Mark for sharing this. You made it very plain based on facts.
@djrx2
@djrx2 5 жыл бұрын
Tithing wouldn’t be so much an issue if pastor don’t live lavishly, buy expensive cars, homes and planes.
@jonsatko430
@jonsatko430 5 жыл бұрын
But that is exceedingly rare.
@billboyd2009
@billboyd2009 5 жыл бұрын
Why does a church need an income from its parishoners? If God wants them to have money, He does not need the puny assistance of mere humans!
@BiglariProductions
@BiglariProductions 5 жыл бұрын
10% is truly way way too much
@EyeAmCoa
@EyeAmCoa 5 жыл бұрын
BLProductions TRULY!!!
@jasonhaas607
@jasonhaas607 3 жыл бұрын
I'm twenty two and had over $20k in credit card debt from buying cinema equipment (PayPal Credit/Amazon/Discover/Apple Card). I would tithe each gig and sold anything I didn't need getting it down to around $11k. Shortly after the pandemic started, I was able to get around $15k in unemployment. FAITH IS DEAD WITHOUT WORKS!
@markb7067
@markb7067 3 жыл бұрын
Biblical tithes were not received as money although money was in circulation during those times. Blessings in your giving.
@christslove8121
@christslove8121 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you do but if you need a better income CBN has utube videos about 'financial freedom'. In these videos people share about when they started tithing to CBN they started experiencing financial miracles of wealth. Now they tithe to CBN from a prosperous wealthy income. Just a thought, God bless! 🤗🙏
@markb7067
@markb7067 2 жыл бұрын
@@christslove8121 If you need a better income, work hard, learn, get properly educated, take measured risks, and stop listening to Prosperity Gospel nonsense.
@justinmcnaughton3016
@justinmcnaughton3016 Ай бұрын
We tithe for his glory and to show our full dependence upon him. Not for us to have a better Life
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 5 жыл бұрын
Tithing is not negotiable. Give the tithes, you'll ask yourself how your debt got paid so fast. I paid my bills first two months in a row and I didn't cut back on my usual expenses. It's like making money became near impossible and I kept adding another bill to my budget. Finally, I paid it and after that, making money became very easy. It was notable and hard to miss. Not tithing is a great way to mess up your finances. If you think it's okay not to bless the Lord with your increase, why do you think the Lord is obligated to protect your income? It's as if you walk past everyone when you have money, don't give anyone a dime or piece of bread to get by, but when you're broke, you want those same people to come and help you. It's not going to happen. I don't understand why daily starbucks drinkers question whether they should tithe or not.
@libertarian4323
@libertarian4323 5 жыл бұрын
"Not tithing is a great way to mess up your finances" I've never tithed and am a multimillionaire. Will we be ok since we are atheists? :} We do donate 40-50% of our income (most of our net worth increases come from capital gains at this point, not "income"} directly to good charities though. Mostly food banks,veterans charities, shelters for abused women and children, and animal shelters. We even donate to a couple of "church" run food banks because we know the money is going to buy food, not to enrich the pastor.
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