Nothing worse than a valve roughed to deep in a wall with custom hand picked tiles and a trim that they do not make extension kits for! Spent many of long hours in multi million dollar homes going threw the same scenario! Good Job!

I see your tile shop every day as I drive through Rocklin, on I-80 !!!

delta was good about replacing missing parts, set screws,i bought things on amazon under their "used" sub menu, saved a ton,getting the nipple length on the body sprays was a chore,made my own custom lengths

Would have had the same issue on the Grohe fixture we just installed. Not designed for a floated wall. Ended up having to notch the copper supply lines into the denzshield in order to make it work. Only realized it because we did the demo and plumbing and worked alongside tile guy. Otherwise super easy thing to overlook. Great job on the fix.

Nice fix!! Shouldn’t you have grouted before the plate was installed?

Nice bathroom, Brah. Lucky on the valve. Take the wins when you can....

nice to see you show how real world work actually goes

Lovely tile pattern and install. Super clean.

Where some see obstacles, others see challenges. Way to go, Isaac! 🛠👍🏻

What's funny here is these shower valves a DIY guy can purchase have a lot of forgiveness in them, especially the Delta products. You start getting into Ghroe or California Faucets, you and the plumber better be on the same page. I floated everything and found if you set the thing between 1 5/8" and 1 3/4" they fit come payday, the day you set the trim. The problem most people have is they just attach the new valve to the existing water supplies thinking that's where it goes. Guys like us should know better than this. When you figured out you had to float that wall, someone should have got the tape measure out.

Hell yea man I love watching these vids! Helps me learn more which helps me at work!

I have had a few valves end up a little shy before. Its devastating. Luckily most of the manufactures make extension kits. You guys did get lucky with that one. Only problem is now the valve is pointing upwards. Maybe most will not notice. Glad that you went to ace for those screws. They saved the day for me earlier today. I like the stops also but I also like the high flow shower valves from delta, but they don't make it with stops. Probably should have grouted before putting the escutcheon back on ;)

Thanks for this video, I had nothing in my manual how to remove these control buttons! Little did I know these were under the levers.

I had run with the same problem and it was running me crazy. Thanks for the great tip

You saved the day for us, your workaround for the unavailable thick wall installation work perfectly. Thank you

Nice to kno, thanks for your great vids. Helping me with a Reno.

Issac..I like the extra details in the video putting in the valve. It is hard to find that level of detail. Keep up the good work..

I was like. HEEYYYYYYY TURN THE WATER BACK ON. LOL. You didn't hear me though. Awesome tile job man. Perfection.

You got pretty lucky with this one! Normally, it's not this easy. Sometimes depending on how well a plumber fastens the copper lines to a backing further down the vertical run, unscrewing the rough valve portion only tilts the stem and cartridge outward in an angle, in which case, your escutcheon will not sit flat on the finished wall.

Problem solving lil details is so time consuming....to customer it looks like nothing but can take hrs to troubleshoot a problem

Nice!!! I usually have the plumber leave the finish out 1 1/2- 1 3/4 passed the studs

The problem started with the G.C. not providing the plumber with a straight wall to work with, Its not the plumbers job to determine if the wall needs to be floated out.

Bro has much more skill than me as a GC. But look. This is why I hate the float option you use. Just get the walls plumb and square before you rock the walls and then you’re good. With all due respect, just my .02 Love your work and channel.

This happened to us so many times we used to just have extra extension kits. It's also helpful if the plumber checks the walls, and or what the tile setters plan is.

I love your videos, I just wanted to make some suggestions if I may! I would put some kind of blanket or protection on the floor because the pieces may fall and chip your beautiful tile job, also I would have grouted it before I put the cover plate. Great job as usual👍

What depth would you recommend to place the face of plaster guard. When in doubt I usually go with 3/4" out from face of stud. I figure there's a 1/4" of tolerance either way so the tile guy can go with any size backer board standard tile size and all is well.

If the other side of that wall is drywall I would cut a rectangle out to remove the shower side drywall. My Last resort would be removing tile.

Communication is key. Happens alot to me and the main reason I use moen. Nice work man.

Wow! Great job! I think you could do the glass! :)

This is what happens to me every DIY project. Fix one thing, find a new issue, fix that, find a new small issue! Way to maintain your patience!

just wondering shouldnt you have re grouted before installing the trim?

You should check at your local plumbing supply house for someone who knows a delta rep, they usually either got the good stuff or can get it on the fly!

OK the only thing I see wrong so far other than what you were describing but at first glance as a project manager I can tell you your design is absolutely beautiful however you’re missing one characteristic that maybe you didn’t know about so I’ll tell you… On the glass enclosure the glass installers should’ve offered the sapphire blue glass as it is absolute clear and when you’re looking at the white on the video you can see the shading of the white shower and it should’ve been absolute clear the customers would’ve been blown away… It’s worth the change out should they decide but look into it and you will see because I hate looking at Beautiful white showers but then seeing a shading and color difference…. 🤔 just a thought 👍

Nice job

i used the square ara trim ,but same guts,thats nice about delta 3 or 6 position diverter cartridge,

Wow I just did this. Thank you

Can you do a video on water absorption rate for tile? What tiles to use in showers given their water absorption rates. Maybe even an experiment with tile with high absorption rates submerge in water compared to tiles with low absorption rates, etc.

Very nice job. Wondering how the floor tile is cut? The blue and white are those tiles cut like that? One piece or what?

Thank you!

Good to see others rig shit like I do.....

good thing you didn't have to bust any tiles out - I don't see how you could have made it 100% waterproof again... also looks like it's pointing up now..

Issac how do you waterproof around that valve(thinking it’s the same as my Delta R22000)? Ie: traditional Valve Seals meant for single valves don’t work, thanks.

Kudos for showing all of that , mistakes included

Mental note to self, don't use Delta. Test controls trim fits before applying tiles.

@TileCoach so if the valves are set too deep, there is an option to put in an extension on the valves? I have an issue with a shower elbow valve being too deep. Can I purchase an extension to bring it out a 1/4 inch? Or do i have to go in from behind in closet wall?

What a SAVE!!!!! 🚀🚀🚀

9 times out of 10 you can just go to back side of wall and correct it. Simple drywall repair. Way better than busting tile or jacking up the escutcheon crooked.

Been there many times on vektek hydraulic elevator fittings too recessed into the wall ,loosen the mounting screws and slip a couple slotted shims behind the screw to fill in the space then put the cover plate over it .The sudden torque from the fluid pressure no matter what kind of fluid will slightly move that valve over and over and it will eventually leak if a space is left between the stud and the screw ,even if the cover plate is tight.

The issue could have been prevented if the extension kit was already on hand before deciding to float the wall, otherwise the diverter mounting could had been corrected prior to wall plumb correction.

Thank YOU,,,, awesome

Hey Tile Coach.U think I could send you a video of my upstairs bathroom that was renovated but it is leaking bad.And if u can give me a few scenarios what they did wrong.

Hi great looking bathroom what do i do when i did not set the shower body deep enough

I'm glad I bought all my Brizo fixtures last year. Almost had heart failure when I saw this bill!

Those guys do look better when rough in a little deep

Always try the simple things first.. Thats why Isaac starting razor blading the grout out before he loosened the bolts.....

do you happen to remember how long and wide the bathroom is? i think i pretty much have to exact same layout and size at home. and i would like to copy your design. but i am scared to corner of the shower will come to close to the vanity.

You should have removed the drywall before installing the durock.

How is called extension? Do you have any link on that or similar product? Thank you!

Had that issue too with my kohler shower valve but it turned out kohler was smart enough to sell extension kits unlike a airline company like delta

So remove the grout, then figure out you don’t need to, then install the handle and trim before regrouting. GOT IT! 😂

Just curious...there were no accessible shut offs?

So did the extension come in or that's the part that came with the assembly

I had to do this before coming behind someone with a crazy diverter.it wasn't easy but I had just got enough on shower head also

If you build you niche when you're one tile away you can get a sweet lineup and lose the l cuts in a lot of applications

Maybe you could do a show on how to make your shower wand into a rain head by using an attachment on the ceiling. So you don't need extra Plumbing in the ceiling. Besides the wand has adjustments that rain heads don't.

Wondering why you left the plaster guard in. It's not necessary after the tiling is finished. Sometimes it gets in the way. I had one guy install it behind the tile! They definitely couldn't have gotten the trim on that way. I'm sure they had fun removing it! 😂

Would it not have been better to grout before putting back that fancy faceplate?

We have a 3 inches wall. Can we install a diverter?

Well, at least I'm not the only one who struggles with this every other job with my plumber :)

You guys got really lucky!

Before I was a GC I was installing tile, a tile guy must learn basic plumbing such installing a valve an patching drywall if necessary. You can easily adjust a valve after you prepare your walls and prior installing tile.

I can’t believe this guy……let’s scape out grout before we try the assembly. Unreal. What a choch.

You can do anything with spacers!!!

too bad you cut away the grout for no reason, but no biggie in the end!

Doing a shower remodel now, Kohler is such a headache tho, but more of a headache is my client, changes their mind like a baby changes diapers!!! I know someone feels my pain!!

Ive had to pull screws and shim behind them to pull a valve forward before, luckily ive not had to tear out tile

i did that wsR22000 delta

If it can’t be repaired from the back what would be the difference in front.

i read my instructions ,and still got it wrong,luckily just buying longer screws fixed it,and the trim still fit well,but the mud ring shouldve been out about 3/8 in more

What if a shower valve is set to high, sticks out to far from tile and doesn't allow trim kit to seal against tile? A riser plate of sorts to sit on top of the tile seems to be what I need, but I have no idea what you would call that.

i did need longer stainless screws also

They’re on eBay now double cheap. I just checked

In India, we simply screw in an extension nipple then attach the taps or shower heads.

So I installed mine a bit too far out .Any suggestions?

When you dig the grout out with a knife, doesn't that cut your membrane?

Why didn't you grout before you put the trim back on?

You forgot to put that gasket piece with the plastic on it the screws into the plaster guard

ive never seen a extension kit for delta r22000ws,

If done in Pex should have some play.

start simple as i say, not as I do.. lol

10:05 Imagine dropping that blue clip between the wall.

I don't get it. Shouldn't those wall through parts get sealed specially on shower area behind the tiles? Maybe it's just confusing me cause here everything what is in bathroom is taked very seriously by waterproofing. All pass through wall items we seal those before tiles. Like if you seal doors and drain you could make it to pool safely. :)

Wait, somebody left the plaster guard in that valve to be in there permanently 😂

I tapped the other side to have two screws for my inner trim. Otherwise it tweaks sideways.

Probably better shims would be 3/8" copper tubing cut to 1/4" length and placed behind the ears. That way it would allow the set screws to go through them. Wait! Who talks shit about Northern California? No one that's a native. I can't think of anywhere else I'd live. And, I was burned out of Paradise.

Seems like it would have fit with just longer screws

First It was a plumber issue when copper pipes where next to the cement board …. Now grout was scraped For no reason And who’s fault is at the end

You didn't say what you would do if you weren't able to just pull it out.

What do you mean stops?

Just curious, who pays for that (repair,surgery?)(if tile removal is needed) Plumber or tile guy o homeowner? It's definitely NOT our fault when a wall NEEDS to be floated because wall boarders refuse to make Flat walls with the extra 5 mins it would take to wet shim and ot shim.🤷‍♂️