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I had a lot of similar stuff. I did get HR involved. They protected the harasser and set me up to get let go. I wouldn't trust HR.

Talking to HR puts a target on your back

The best thing to do in these situations is start a new job hunt and leave. One of two things will happen if you stay: You'll get fired on some technicality or they'll drive your mental health down so far that you have to quit. Both not worth it. Better to leave with dignity and before you lose it.

My last job was toxic af that it ended like an abusive relationship. I wasn't liked any more, the first sign was not getting hours, I was excluded from meetings, left out on conversations, I was ignored whenever I asked something or said something, I found out that my coworkers constantly undermined me in public, so what it looked like: I come in 2 minutes late and I'm called out and made fun of in front of everyone, or I'll say something and my coworkers would exchange glances like there was an inside joke. There was such a huge shift and I got another job where I'm being valued

It’s called quiet firing it happens everywhere I’ve seen it and also been a victim to it myself a long time ago in my early 20s. Best advise is quit and leave them in the lurch. Companies sweat big time when staff leave because it puts the burden on then now.

Wow. Almost every single one of these. From the beginning. It sucks getting pushed out of a job especially when you know you're more than capable. 🙃

The HR team is NOT your friend! Get a lawyer!

It's a very sad world, isn't it? We are always talking about human rights, women roghts, all kinds of rights, but we treat each other horribly on daily basis.... sometimes it's not even about your ability or skills, its about who can play the game well....

It boils down to whether the managers like you, in a typical office. A certain number of managers are bullies/psychopaths, they always need a victim due to their own aberrant psychology and it could come down to them feeling that they can get away with it. One thing with bullies is that if you don't stand up to them they will carry on because they get a twisted kick out of it, it's basically like the playground. I'd say always belong to a union and if you get the sense you're being scapegoated, be prepared to confront them directly over it.

They ain't pushing me out . I'm pushing back

I worked at FedEx for 8 months and overtime was bullied by management, went to HR made it worse

Once you've cycled through all these 'red flags' several times in your worklife, you'll have advanced in resilience - unless you committed suicide. Either you're dead or you've become quite invincible by now. Rise and shine, Soldier!

Excluding from meetings. Lack of access to vital information to perform your job especially being part of an upper management

Gas lighting your completed work. Ignoring the fact(s) about your accomplishment(s). They will not acknowledge work that took talent and uncommon effort.

I feel like my company was trying to push me out. Even though I was doing the work of 3 people they refused to hire anyone else. So when they hired someone else after 2 years and my boss quit and was replaced, I just decided to quit since I did not want to train the new person, I did not get along with the new management, and I was afraid they were just going to get rid of me after I trained the new person. It was just too much to deal with all the hours I was working. I am so glad I quit.

I agree with all the points except 6:35 part where one should report to HR if a manager is being hostile or harassing to chase you out. From personal experience, HR won't do anything even if you have a legal team and instead, they will side with the manager unless you're part of a protected class.

Very good points! I have been in that situation in the past. In these situations, I blamed myself, questioned my worthiness, developed anxiety and became physically unhealthy. I am so glad I found the help that I needed and pursued my own goals by finishing school and to own three side hustles to sustain not only my happiness, but my sanity. It’s so refreshing to have people like you to help other keep an eye for these signs. I wish i would’ve found you earlier in my career. But lets keep the conversation going.. let’s ( in a way) expose employers. Livelihood is a necessity, not a choice.

I quiet quit when I realized what they were doing. So I quiet quit for the last four years before retirement. Retirement is wonderful! Eff em.

I got work place bullied my last 2 office jobs and got depression for 8 months each time. Had to quit both times and recover.

I work at a store and sometimes feel like I'm being pushed out because they want to find people who work cheaper.

My experience is when the management wants to get rid of you, eventually they will, especially if it's a low-skilled entry level job.

I had a situation where I was no longer on the schedule,I asked whats up.They said they were restucturing.There were no problems before. They kept telling me they had everything covered and they cant use me today. This went on for months, I kept showing up just to get sent home, why didnt they lay me off.I told them I refuse to quit. One day I refused to leave and they called the cops. I threatened to get a lawyer and they said go ahead. I did nothing wrong they had no right to do this. They would use me if enough people called off,I never said no.Its wrong and unethical.

I apologize if I’m all over the place, but here’s my story: In late February 2022, I worked remotely for a small company located in Iowa as a featured web writer. I basically wrote articles that focused on how to use products from a well-known tech brand. I felt like I was on cloud 9 after years of looking and applying for jobs. I was doing something that I enjoyed, the people seemed nice and were eager to help me, I got to travel to Iowa (plane ticket and hotel room was paid for by the company) for company week in July and really enjoyed myself. They even told me not to be afraid of asking for help and to utilize resources. I even had articles that were doing really good with clicks and views. All of that changed in October. In the early hours of October 5th, my mom and I had to move out of our apartment because our jerk of a third-floor neighbor flooded us out, and we lived on the first floor. We had to stay at a hotel. We had no idea when we were going to either move back in or get another permanent place to stay. Plus, my mom had to do training for dialysis, and she needed a stable place to live. Thankfully, I had some PTO left and I told my former boss and the execs the situation, and they let me take some 2 weeks off to focus on moving our stuff out from the apartment so that it could be worked on. After the two weeks and still at the hotel, I went back to work on Oct 17, and my boss welcomed me back and told me that I need to do my employee evaluation. I decided to get it over with. I took the Zoom call, and that’s when they (the execs) told me that I was going to be put on probation due to performance. What really didn’t sit well was when one of the execs mentioned that they fired a co-worker of mine because “he wasn’t interested in improving his performance.” He was hired a week after I was hired. I felt that disclosing his termination during my evaluation was a bit unprofessional of the execs to do. I might be wrong, but I heard that when you do an employee evaluation, it isn’t a good idea to talk about other employees. Anyway, the execs were like, “We don’t want to let go of you, and that’s why we’re putting you on probation.” Then, they talked about what they enjoyed about me, as if that was going to make things better. After the execs left the call, my boss told me that she was surprised that they were going to make that decision regarding my employment (she participated in the call), but that she would make sure that she would help me make improvements on my performance. They didn’t give a certain time frame for the probation, and I was hoping I would be able to redeem myself. We finally moved into another apartment in early November, and I had to take some more days off to accompany my mom with her dialysis training. Both November and December were very busy when it came to work. Not only was I writing articles and reporting to my boss and two other people, I was also answering tickets from people who read the articles from the website, and the volume was usually high. Plus, answering tickets was very stressful because you have to make sure that you’re providing accurate information, and many of the tickets that people sent had very complex questions. The co-worker that they had let go of was doing the same tasks as I was doing, so that meant more work for me. Then, around that time, my boss wasn’t available as usual because she had a family crisis. She basically made sure that two of my co-workers with more experience made sure I was getting everything that I needed to improve my performance. My workload was very heavy. One Thursday in December, one the execs wanted me to join Zoom call, and I was nervous. I joined the chat, and they wanted to let me know that I was getting a bonus, and told me that I deserved it for working hard. I was relieved because I thought they were going to fire me then. Then, they decided to change the format of the web articles. On Jan 4th, My boss told me to join a Zoom call, and I already knew what it was about. They basically said I was being let go. They even talked about how they enjoyed me and how I was such a hard worker. I hated it because I felt that I had fitted in. A few weeks after I got let go, I decided to check on the co-worker that they had fired prior to me. He told me that they had fired him two days into his probation. The whole, ”He wasn’t interested in improving his performance” explanation doesn’t make any sense because how can someone tell in two days if a person isn’t showing interest in improving their performance? To me, that’s not enough time, but of course Iowa is an “at-will” state. It was a shock to me when the execs brought it up because I felt that this co-worker was doing better than I was doing. I hope he’s doing okay. Another thing that kind of makes me wonder was that a month or two before I got flooded out, my boss reached out to me to see if I could answer tickets from customers, and I said yes because I remembered seeing the task as part of the job description when I applied. Guess what? She had asked the same co-worker at the same time and we both were trained at the same time. So, I feel that they were already planning to let us go. Also, while I was out due to the flooding, they were interviewing with one of the freelance writers, and they hired him to replace the co-worker who got fired. I got to meet him, and he was nice. But that goes to say they were already making changes within the company. When I was employed at that place, I felt a sense of belonging somewhere. Even when I went to Iowa for company week, I enjoyed myself. They even gave everyone a t-shirt and a water bottle with the company logo. We even took company photos. I wore that shirt and used that bottle with pride, and I was hoping that I would be able to attend this year’s company week. Now that I’m no longer working there, I can’t even bear to look at the shirt and the bottle. They say it was due to performance, but sometimes I wonder. Maybe they saw that I enjoyed my job “too much”. Maybe it was due to me being the only Black person working there at the time, and they just chose me as a diversity hire. I will never know, but I do feel that something was a bit off about the situation. As for me, I’m currently applying for jobs and I’m working on getting a Google certificate for UX design through Coursera. Wish me well.

When bosses say they're going to hold you to "higher standards" such as when you join a union where they advocate for more pay and benefits and they also ask you "how long do you plan on working for us?" when they're giving you their performance evaluation are the red flags you should not overlook where they really don't want you to work with them.

Great video. I’m currently experiencing all of these at once. Man it’s tough. Thanks for the vid and info.

This includes making you produce bricks without giving you straws.or lying about your performance.

I went through this. HR was absolutely useless. 😮

Often they do not want to fire someone as it involves paperwork, could cost the company money, and the employee may sue for unfair dismissal. So they push you out so you quit of your own accord, such as the impossible (or mundane) jobs you mention that they give you.

Thank you, very informative.

I've been in my job for 6 years and I've been a top performer in terms of output. A year ago, they hired someone and had spoken about management to him and taking over from the manager, I tried to have a conversation with my manager and it didn't go well. Now they've hired another and the manager is mentoring him in this position and has not have a conversation with me. This man is being mentored to be my manager and the process does not seem fair. Emotionally I am drained because I feel it's unfair.

Thank you.i was in a similar situation over three years ago.i left for another job and I have absolutely no regrets.

I wish I saw this video early. I was just released from my first tech hr job. I was in training and shadowing for 2 1/2 months. No complaints from anyone. Things were great and then the third month I was “PIP”, the reasons listed were refutable with proof and did not relate to my performance. Since the manager literally followed up and said I was doing good in HR. 2 weeks later I was micromanaged, publicly undermined in email, and blamed by someone I didn’t work with for things that weren’t true. This carried on for the next 4 weeks. Yesterday I was fired “for not making the progress” they wanted. They couldn’t look at me as they talked. I left confused. Almost 5 months in.

Very good tips. A few of these apply.

Wooow . Great and solid information

Go to your supervisor? Go to HR? Are you kidding? Those that are being harassed are usually.... the least likely...to reach out for help. And if we did....there'd have been no one to help...when you find...that the whole bunch..... is rancid.

Thank you

They doubled my area and kept taking my people away. and changed the sort on me many times. getting more frequent with it as I kept hanging on. and with every sort change comes the need to order new labels may I mind you. Downright asking me to just quit. Saying stuff like.. "this isn't a joke. I genuinely want you to resign" Making things harder everytime I declined. and then finally when I had enough. I hear from someone who was still working there that after I left. He put everything back to the way it was. The smaller area. No longer changing the sort. Just business as usual. And That's why I hate UPS. Unbelievable that they got away with this shit. my heart is broken.

Yes all good signs to know about

This is my job to a t. I'm so done and they can fire me or get over it

I just went through this for a whole year I wish I could have found this earlier

It’s a shame that you have to link your mistreatment to an accepted form of discrimination in order for HR to be involved. It should just be “I’m doing a good job, and being bullied and undermined by psychos for no reason, deal with it.” The fact that they don’t care unless a buzzword like discrimination is triggered shows that the only thing they care about is the company image, nothing else. Btw if people want to know the cause of the disastrous lack of productivity in the west which will rapidly lead to our collective demise, it’s not that people are lazy or entitled, it’s that we’ve internally accepted and even promoted the idea of psychopathic behaviour in the working environment, turning it into such a toxic hellscape that the only sane thing to do as a reasonable and self respecting individual is reassess one’s life goals and decide to aim for frugality and freedom through quiet quitting, van life, or early retirement. I think psychos in the workplace are destroying western civilisation, together with their short sighted bosses who promote them. Encouraging dog-eat-dog, psycho behaviours, far from driving up productivity as we’d think, this has actually backfired and now no-one is doing their jobs properly, because doing so gives them no stability, financial reward, company loyalty, promotions or kudos.

I literally asked for more hours and if i could swap a day because i had something to do for graduation requirements. I had the person who i was swapping with and my old boss said okay, so i check later and i see that my days got completely cut to 2 days in a week. This Week & Next Week. I've had enough of this because i was there for months (I'm still in high school) so i decided to just call it quits and focus on school. They had the nerve to hang up on me multiple times when i tried to confront them about this and then they picked up a few hours later. Needless to say I'm happier

Those things recently happened to me on a job by the owner. He called me the other day to lower the boom and I just nonchalantly told him ‘Ok’ and hung up on him while he was still talking. 🤷🏽‍♂️

My employer gave me all the failed projects, but I turned them around, except financially of course because gobs of money had already been spent. On the one project I asked the current PM to keep managing it, while I focused on deliverables. The project reviewer started in to me about how poorly my project was performing financially, I said not my problem, I’m responsible for deliverables only. She was pissed. I got a new job shortly thereafter.

You are right I’m blanked for mistakes thank you and as for the isolation yes just like you said . I’m also the only 1 that has been drug tested,if a company is going to get rid of me I would rather them not sugar coat or just fire or let me know.

Can’t help but notice Atlas of the Heart on the bookshelf in the background

I’m not too sure anymore. Maybe it’s my paranoia playing up but I feel that I should be looking for another job. Team members are leaving and they are not being replaced and we are expected to do the work of thirty people when there are only ten people left. I’ve been there for six and a half years but my face has never fitted in the team. Work is being taken away from me and I’m the only one working in the office so I am getting all kind of requests which is distracting me from my main task. I’ve also been asked to train the new starts but I am still expected to do my own work load and check the new starts work as well. I also have to take calls from the new starts in regards to helping them with a task. I think it’s time for me to look for a new job but the grass is never greener but it’s probably better then where I am.

I am in manufacturing and not an office. I can relate to the "impossible tasks" and the "unnecessary difficulty" as I am being given more and more work and expected to complete it in the same amount of time. A new engineer even commented that I was set up for failure because all the test procedures are not released on line yet. I am supposed to figure everything out and get it done. I build a piece of lab equipment. I build it and put it in the lab for testing. Slowly I have been given the task to do the testing after I build it just to put it in the lab and have them do the same testing. The reason is so I can find all the issues and fix them so the lab gets a perfect product and simply runs through the same testing without failure so the unit will have what they call "first pass quality." It's redundant and since I don't use any of the chemicals and a lot of the testing is done with the same test unit, the results are different and it's like I'm doing the testing for nothing. I feel like they are just doing it to make me quit or to make me fail so I get fired.

I am experiencing this even though I got a salary raise as a retainer a few months back. Not sure what to make of it.

My boss is currently doing this. I was talked to in the past about not being super smiley and friendly. But it was never write up worthy. Now the relatively new GM is literally telling me I need to be acknowledging EVERY person coming through or I'm done by next week. I've literally saved lives in the past with CPR and AED use. But apparently that pales in comparison to making sure I'm super friendly.

I recently got confirmed w a pay increase but since, though I have changed anythung in my work style except work longer hours so my supervisor can get more time to relax bc she seems very stressed but suddenly I don't feel valued like before and sad bc once I got confirmed they feel comfortable w me enough to let the person's mood be the course of my day and it doesn't feels n ce, even if the person was in my place earlier before ranking up

I had to quit my job as a software developer, now it’s been two months jobless, the reason I had to quit is because they were saying I was not meeting expectations despite all my efforts, after researching online, I concluded that is worse being fired than just quitting for job finding. Is a shame… I really love being a programmer but now I feel like an impostor.

The only point I'd disagree with is getting HR involved. I don't trust HR, and always ask the question: in an HR mediated dispute, who does the company think is more valuable?

I have left my job in the bullies are still coming after me. Also, they are using some outside friends and their friends. To help harass me and my family now I need help.I want to go the authorities but I know they are not going to Listen because It is concerning They're on deputies. And there may be others that's buddies with him. This person or deputy has a huge network of people. That's willingly helping camera, open them out and all calls everywhere. Everywhere I go, they are there if anyone. Knows of a high authority guardy that can help me put it in the someone they do. Not know or can cun? These bully persons does not need to be in our system.Unfortunately they are there.They are hidden cancer among the good

A woman I once worked with was forced out of her employer (a large toy manufacturer) and they followed the classic script to get her to leave: it started with a poor performance review, then isolating her by moving her to a cubicle surrounded by packing boxes in a relatively unused area of the office and finally depriving her of meaningful work. They gave her 3 months to find a job at another company so they wouldn’t have to pay her severance. But 3 months later she was still there so she was called into a meeting with an HR rep, her manager and a corporate attorney and told her job was being eliminated and offered her an enhanced severance package which for her to receive it she had to sign away her right to sue the company. I’m so glad I’m retired so I don’t have to deal with this kind of crap anymore.

HR acts like they care but they are only there for the employer. I was lied about. One sided comments that I never even knew about until it showed up on a PIP. The termination document was even worse. Could not file an appeal for unemployment due to lack of evidence. Employer went into my home computer and deleted my saved emails. Wasn't aware they could do that. One last kick in the ass I guess .Glad to be out of there. l

try working remote for 1 year and your supervisors and employers don't even acknowledge you, super dry with you every time you message them and make you feel like it its a bother that you are even talking to them. and then 1 time they reach out to you is to tell you how much better you should be doing at the job.

I have been excluded, Ignored and Isolated. My boss set up a CoE and basically isolated me, which has devalued my position.

NEVER trust HR! That's the worst possible advice.

My job has been providing less shifts for me and has recently excluded me from accepting shifts because "I don't meet the requirements for this shift" despite the amount of experience i have with childcare through ages 1-11. A clear tale sign that they want me gone.

I had number 5 happen to me before. I was temping so I was fair game anyway. Had to complete 17 tasks each day but I was assigned some tasks that I was not trained not to do. Sacked by the client and escorted off the premises. Not crestfallen about what had happened as I didn't like the job or the people. Went back to the agency who found me another temp job working with nicer people, much better. Sadly they only required my services for a few weeks and I was let go again, albeit on happier circumstances.

Best get tossed off sinking ship before it begins to departure from docks.

Hey get your resume up-to-date. Corporations don't owe you anything, so you are your own employer. Do you do more than expected in your job, are you mentoring others, and asking for feedback? Are you thanking others for helping you finish a task, a report, a collaboration, etc. Always thank others for helping you. It builds trust and they will go out of their way to help you later. Document your work, ask for feedback from your Supervisor and ASK for work. What I did as a Supervisor, (now retired) was preach to my team was the four Cs: Communication, Collaboration, Cooperation, and Coordination. No one can take shots at you if you do these four things and of course, document your work.

This may sound nasty, but what happens if you have a boss and/or coworkers sabotaging your work? I heard of this happening as well...to the extent where a business will even have a small setback as long as you're out.

Legal should be also contacted if you go to HR. It's necessary to communicate a realistic plan to sue the company if you go to HR so that you can negotiate a settlement/severance. Being technically eligible for rehire should be part of the release-of-claims agreement.

Had a strange run in with my boss the other day she just came over to check in on things which is normal and she had mentioned its really weird just she was like you just never know who's watching you. She gave an example of someone who called her (a male customer) Mrs red Ultima (by her car) which she said freaked her out which it would me too but I just don't understand why she would say that ?? Like was she trying to tell me something ... ??

My last job was the worst. I think I was micromanaged. They were listening to my phone conversations, finding errors all the time. Why team lead would spend so much time auditing my work when she had so many other things to do. I think she was jealous and competing with a new hire. She increased the work load so that I get frustrated and leave. I feel I was pushed out. I had to quit that job. Terrible leadership I must say.

Thats what I thought months back. Once they get what they needed to know get rid of you,,,,

Good points except for "Getting HR involved". This has ALWAYS backfired. They are protecting the organization, not the employees

What type of lawyer should you get.

No HR.

I was laid off from my job late September of last year any have strong reason to believe it was in retaliation of refusing to commit to OSHA violations as well as refusal to violate building codes. I'm seeking to take legal action myself.

I’m being ignored and given silent treatment when start of shift starts , I plan to leave or transfer but right now I’m Just planning someone new

What if it's a small office and there is no "HR"? A woman in my office, I've been there 15 years, has decided SHE wants it ALL. She wants everyone but her and her "staff" gone. Problem: my boss of 15 years, isn't well and wants to retire. This woman wants to buy all of his clients and push him completely out. It's all very sad for everyone involved. This woman has no ethics, she has no scruples, she'll back stab anyone who tells her "No." If I quit then I can't collect unemployment. Yeah, it's California. OMG her assistant is THE flying monkey.

getting benched too

Company got bought out and the department were afraid we would get laid off because it was starting to get pretty obvious. After they got what they wanted from us. They didn't lay us off. They just make work slow and tedious. More steps to complete simple task. Deleted daily meetings. Raise work expectations. Decline raises. Reminders that they are watching our productivity. Dodging questions about why we are not getting the same permission as standards employee. I knew what happening and decided to job search. Hopefully i can leave soon before theg find a reason to fire me.

I can say that every single point you outlined has been happening to me over the past 7 to 8 months. Not just me, but the only other black person that reports to me. I went to HR, they did nothing. They basically were working with my boss the harasser. They overloaded me with work in hopes that I couldn't meet their ridiculous deadlines, but I did--although it meant I had to work 75 hours a week. Then they told me my position was being eliminated. However, two days before they informed me of that, I filed an official complaint with HR of discrimination. I hired an attorney.

I got hurt then after 90 days of modified duty I got pushed out. Policy. In three more months I wil be out of disability payments and in a sling needing to work. Tell me what to do about that?

I was getting pushed out, so I started looking among other reasons. My boss found out about it and she let me go and said I was disloyal by interviewing elsewhere.

Deliberately mis-taking your respectful actions toward a productive work product, as disrespectful actions toward unproductive result/outcome.

All of this... 😢

Makes sense to me. HResources was no help at all.

If you go to HR about it, you should also have a lawyer lined up.

Good morning so I was told that I refused to do my job which wasn’t true…he also stated my resignation was accepted which I never resigned…he said it was accepted when you walked out the door…I was told by my manager and security to leave the building…my boss texted me and said thank you for your services…I keep asking was I fired and his reply was you refused to do your job…he never said I was fired or terminated…him and my manager ignore all of my calls and my boss said we won’t speak until I stop lying…I work Sunday -Thursday do I still go in to work or was I fired?

Scapegoating is very real

When you start to SHINE!!.. thats when the demons come out!!.

I am a lighting tech in Macau 🇲🇴 and during pandemic the company transferred me to work at help desk as operator on shift hours. They thought I will quit…..but after one year I still survive 💪🏻💪🏻Later I found they have hiring ads for my tech job. Well, I have thought of writing a complaint letter to the CEO. But later I think the best way is to get the year end bonus, get a better job, write a book on history of entertainment (including my experience of the dark side). Those who trashed me will have their names engraved in the history book. 🚬😎🥃

do you think it can be deserved and how

There's generally two master plans: one for your entry, and the second for your exit.

This just happened to me

What is the Most Sad about this is how it affects your psyche and Your Life. Try to realize: you are surrounded by people who show up unclean, unpressed (wearing dirty dog-hair laundry). You are surrounded by the person who calls in sick over 9 times a year (while you have a third of that or don’t call in), and finally, a great rapport with most co-workers and clients. Remember this: you are a valued person! F--‘em!

Is any of this illegal?

Though, I agree with you on most matters you've said. I can't tolerate a Superior who tries to push you out for "The Usual" Discrimatory reasons. Which is Common Place in Unison with your subject !

Bottom line: it's all about cutting costs. Companies nowadays seem to put the burden of more work on the employees who give their all (and make the most $$$) while not telling others who make less $$$ that they should put down their cellphones and learn something. It's like it is being done deliberately to make businesses fail.

Honestly, I think corporate has nothing to do this. I think its the location you are working at. I think once you contact corporate and notify them with what's going corporate will intervene. Corperate dont like stuff like this. I was a business major in college.

Tough world to make a dime in peace

Apparently veiled threats disguised as jokes of bodily harm or death are apparently legal. I'm not a protected class. So there's that too. How can any of that be legal?

This is literally just my job description lol it's weird

They killed the server and completely undermined most things but I failed at being an employee. I answer questions to everybody but I thought that were nice 3 years of building something to say I can be replaced