Don’t worry, my 600 had a pull start. Because it’s a 24” the handle hides out behind the oil bottle pretty good.

We used Map Tuner x. However on 2023 and 2024 models there isn’t much to gain. I have a clutch kit I sell for the 900 utility sleds.

I really prefer the 600 for most everything…. However if you are always towing at a slower pace and not taking advantage of the extra power, the 900 is a cheaper, quieter alternative

@AndrewMilleyPerformance thank you so much.

@@Tinvaak thank you so much

Both are truly excellent snowmobiles. I prefer the 600 because of the added power and slightly easier to handle. But the 900 is quieter and at lower speeds will tow with less rpm. So it really depends on how you like to tow. If you’re going to be lower speed and prefer quiet to performance, get a 900. If you’re a more aggressive guy and like to have more zip, especially in wet heavy snow, the 600 is a better choice.

I can only comment with knowledge of our local snow conditions and terrain. From my experience a 20” turbo is a really nice touring sled with some off trail capability. It likes to dip and dive and can be very frustrating in the woods. A 20” 900ace is a bit better, considerably cheaper and unbelievably reliable with the exception of fuel filters. A 2 stroke 20” is a really nice all around snowmobile, noticeably better off trail than the 4 strokes. “It’s only 30lbs” people say, but I think it drives like 50+ difference. The 2 stroke is almost zero maintenance until it’s engine rebuild time. If you’re stepping up to a 24” they really are all great sleds. I’d personally still get a 600r, but there is no wrong choice, just little compromises

When it’s clear, white is nice. However there is blowing snow or snow dust more often than clear conditions so I just leave the amber filter on it.

Rox shocks are a quality product. I have a lot of stuff around because I’ve been racing for years so sometimes I choose to just run parts I already have. With that said, if I had to buy shocks for a new SWT tomorrow, I’d spend my money on Rok shocks for the front 3 and look for a 2” rear similar to what I have…. BUT a 1.5” Rok rear is an excellent choice for 95% of people. It can be valved to offer the same ride as my 2”, but the 2” has better fade resistance on a long day.

20” vs 24”. Some guys don’t find it bad at all…. Some guys don’t last 2 hrs. It’s hard to say.

@@AndrewMilleyPerformance That's my concern, well, might pull the trigger and worst case be stuck with it for one season and then I'll know for sure going forward.

The 600r is 2 stroke and that 900 is a 4 stroke. Most people will tell you that 2 strokes aren’t reliable, but I’d take a new one across the country. I just prefer how they operate

The 900 is significantly quieter until the exhaust cracks up.

​@@AndrewMilleyPerformance gettin Extream?

@@ivanhamlyn Lynx Xterrain Brutal

900 is only quieter at or around idle or up to 5-10 kms per hr

The 4 stroke will outlast the 2 stroke. I can’t argue that… but I trust the 2 stroke for long trips and will continue to do so

It’s the Garmin cradle on a ram mount and a handlebar ram mount.

The 600 always starts. When it’s -35°C or colder I pull it over a few times before using the electric start, but it starts. Every February since 2018 I’ve been on a trip where 900s won’t start unless you plug them in.

900ace and 850 Etec

@@AndrewMilleyPerformance I've got a 2022 850 Etec and I'll be real interested in your opinion and the longevity of that engine.

@@jayfxdxWe’ve had 850s in the past. I’ve seen them with as much as 17 000km with no engine issues…. However I’ve also seen 6-7000km engines. It seems like they don’t like short runs. The guys I know that run long days with a lot of KM per day seem to get good life out of them.

@@AndrewMilleyPerformanceexactly what I didn't want to hear! I've got an Xtreme that will see short light duty hauls for ice fishing but will get used for fast trail and backcountry riding as well. 1000-1500kms being an average season's usage. Fingers crossed!

@@jayfxdxfeel free to check back in a few years with a reliability update. I expect my 2023 850 will turn ~8000km this season and my 2024 will get somewhere around 4000km. I’m not anticipating any issues

We have a mix of shocks that aren’t easy to just go and buy. Rok Suspension offers good shocks at an affordable price for these snowmobiles. I will have another video in a month or two about snowmobile shocks and some of the different options

@@AndrewMilleyPerformance when you changed the shocks in the skid how did they compare to stock suspension? I find the le shocks rather soft and lame when it comes to whooped out icefishing trails and bottom out easy at higher speeds when riding groomed trails. very interested to hear your opinion of your upgrade. thanks

@@mattpee55I have been building snowmobiles for a long time. Unless it comes new with a very high end suspension package I generally swap the shocks out before I ride it. These snowmobiles have never been ridden with stock suspension. However I have ridden other people’s sleds that have stock suspension and there is really no comparison. The stock isn’t very good.

I really don’t know. A few years ago you could do a total rebuild yourself for under $2000, but I don’t know how much prices have changed

I bought a Lynx Brutal 850 this season. Ideally I’d buy a 850 SWT, but they don’t make it. If I was buying a 24” tomorrow it would be a 600r. In today’s world it’s relatively affordable, and I like the power delivery, throttle feel and the lighter front end. My next choice for a 24” would be a 180hp turbo r

I did not know this model existed, great choice, it is basically a expedition extreme version of a renegade in theory cause the bulkiness is not present but the space is. www.brplynx.com/content/dam/global/en/lynx/my23/documents/specs-sheets/en/LYNX-MY23-SPEC-Xterrain-Brutal_EN.pdf @@AndrewMilleyPerformance

We had a day that went much longer than expected. I got frustrated. When we were about 60km from home we hit a big lake system and I held it wide open for 20km. It was off the handle bar for a couple km between lakes then wide open again for almost 10, this process repeated until I almost got home….. so approximately 40+ km out of 50 wide open then it quit. A piston melted. There were no short blocks available from BRP. My dealer was very apologetic about that. I’m a mechanic, I realize that somewhere someone is assembling an engine. I asked my dealer to order the parts and build me an engine asap. The engine quit late on a Tuesday night, the dealer picked it up in my driveway Thursday morning. The next Friday I picked it up with new crank, pistons and water pump. Cost me $50 deductible. I am 100% ok with that. 12 years ago I was replacing engines twice a season. This doesn’t even register as an inconvenience compared to back then

It’s part of snowmobiling. In the past we were getting less than a season out of 2 strokes. These new engines run strong and last multiple seasons. The fact that it needed some work at 14000+ is only to be expected.

I agree 100%,