Stihl, Husqvarna, Echo Top handles! Most powerful!!

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Dyno Joe Mods

Dyno Joe Mods

2 жыл бұрын

Time to Pull some of the favorite tophandles. All of these saws had a muffler mod. as most climbing saws that I get are already muffler molded.
See which one puts out the most power.
for more info on porting or build vist my website
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#Husqvarna#Stihl#Echo

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@snowysnobdds7842
@snowysnobdds7842 2 жыл бұрын
Good work. This is so interesting. Regardless of minute differences dictated by design differences, the fact it's the same setup on the same dyno gives a reliable consistent measurement.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@waynegriswold8953
@waynegriswold8953 2 жыл бұрын
im so happy that you did this video, it would be awesome if you ported the saws and did another comparison video. thanks for the great work! see you next time
@richardhollis2530
@richardhollis2530 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please do this
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
They will be getting ported.
@johnlincicum6390
@johnlincicum6390 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZqygaZp4stzSZJs.html
@bryantitus6634
@bryantitus6634 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I feel the echo 355 with a muffler mod, or even a bolt on ore-modded muffler, is such a great deal for a top handle. My buddy runs an echo 330t and it's a great saw. Not quite an echo 355t but it'd be far better than any comparable priced top handle out there.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Most cost effective option for sure.
@Sensei948
@Sensei948 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 13200 RPM MAX IS OK 372 XP OE?
@davidbrennan5
@davidbrennan5 2 жыл бұрын
I used the Echo top handles in the past and they were good units, The Stihl is also good, it does have more power and built a bit better in my honest opinion, I am not biased. I never tried the Husky top handle but I do have several 372xp saws and I like them.
@simpleman4224
@simpleman4224 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I love my ported 201, my brother runs a ported 200, and a ported 355, all great saws, but we lean toward the stihls….
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that at all
@groundpounder24365
@groundpounder24365 2 жыл бұрын
This is great information, I run a 201 myself. My decision was based on the factory specs of horsepower to weight ratio and I ended up with that.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Very popular top handle.
@leroykidd7457
@leroykidd7457 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful info…..!!! Comes down to price and availability…..thnx so much……best wishes
@andrewscott2866
@andrewscott2866 2 жыл бұрын
Another great shootout! 👍
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@nashneubauer9016
@nashneubauer9016 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a ported top handle comparison. Especially if you could include a 2511T. The dyno comparisons are amazing and you really show a good factual approach to the testing.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Ported 2511 is pretty much where these bigger saws are stock/muffler modded. Just a touch less tq
@frankinstein6456
@frankinstein6456 Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone port saws there ain’t going to be no good saws left they all are going to be hacked up
@poparamiro
@poparamiro 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👌 201 is great Best regards!
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brianeastman3547
@brianeastman3547 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend the Echo 355 tophandle
@IndianaDoug
@IndianaDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Best new chainsaw niche channel in 2021👍🏻
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it
@Andyshine77
@Andyshine77 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Doug!
@vinzer8808
@vinzer8808 2 жыл бұрын
355t is probably the one with the most ridiculous gains I've got from a ported saws, its like a 50cc saw after mod. Just unbelievable....nice work as always brother!
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Will be fun to see the gains!
@johnlincicum6390
@johnlincicum6390 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 @Paveen Raj my 355T absolutely rips! Jereme Bell did mine. Tube type muffler mod, ported, and timing advanced. You can see on his KZfaq channel my saw versus a 201T a year ago.
@johnlincicum6390
@johnlincicum6390 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.infohistory
@johnlincicum6390
@johnlincicum6390 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZqygaZp4stzSZJs.html
@johnlincicum6390
@johnlincicum6390 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZqygaZp4stzSZJs.html
@dascubaguy
@dascubaguy 2 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye out for the T540 mk3 as it’s due for release very soon.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
That is what I have heard. I will try and get all the "brand new" ones next time. These seem to be the most common ones used today. But can still be tough to find
@waynegriswold8953
@waynegriswold8953 2 жыл бұрын
It would be amazing if you also did a dyno run on the 540i xp. It would be soo cool to see the graph of it , to see the rpm and power band!!! Or any electric saw so we could see what happens.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Might have to try sometime
@bigfootandbananaman4746
@bigfootandbananaman4746 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 yes please do this. I want to know how much power the new electric saws have
@modarkthemauler
@modarkthemauler 2 жыл бұрын
Definetly the Echo rear handle battery saws. They feel way stronger than husky and stihl.
@EcSsAwS
@EcSsAwS 2 жыл бұрын
Own a 355t. Phenomenal saw
@Andyshine77
@Andyshine77 2 жыл бұрын
Another good one Joe!. Like to see where they fall once potert or with some timing work. I think I'd personally take the Echo.✌️
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That is the plan to get them all ported and back on the dyno
@Andyshine77
@Andyshine77 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 That's a boy! Merry Christmas to you and yours.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andyshine77 Thank you Merry Christmas to you and yours as well
@johnlincicum6390
@johnlincicum6390 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andyshine77 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZqygaZp4stzSZJs.html
@CharlesBrisco
@CharlesBrisco 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jaredeberly9724
@jaredeberly9724 2 жыл бұрын
Joe, I remember showing pigs with you and your brother at the fair. How interesting to find you on youtube when I'm looking up saw performance. Great videos! Keep it up
@jaredeberly9724
@jaredeberly9724 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also curious to see how a 435t sizes up since that's the one I use every day at work
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to see if I can track one down. Hope you and your family are doing well. Glad you found the channel, hope it can help with saw performance info.
@jaredeberly9724
@jaredeberly9724 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 I have one you could test if you can't find one. Same to you and your family!
@steppoffaith8426
@steppoffaith8426 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredeberly9724 I have 3 that I ported they will out cut my 540s. Can't do whole lot with compression. But little goes long way. And lots of room for improvement on transfers and exhaust port. Just don't raise the exhaust at all. I widened and reshaped the intake and rased the bottom few numbers. Its mind blowing stout. I port matched the exhaust to muffler.Closed of the tube. I use cut off deep well sockets on my custom exhaust so I can change the diameter and found 11 mm is the ticket! Cut whole in plastic have exhaust come out under the bar.
@brianmcintee6647
@brianmcintee6647 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your channel keep it up
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will try and keep a steady flow. I do have a few other things I want to incorporate along the way
@ryancarmony6666
@ryancarmony6666 2 жыл бұрын
@Dyno Joe Mods I'd love to see a video of a stock stihl 70cc+ with a stock muffler, a dyno pull, then an Egan straight shot and a WCS bark box and maybe just a classic dual port.
@jeffreyweible124
@jeffreyweible124 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be awesome to see that testing done with 572xp an 462cm I can't wait to see results 😊
@Bigcheif360
@Bigcheif360 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Would have been nice to see a stock graph.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The last few saws I have had dropped off were from tree guys, and already muffler modded. I will get 100% stock versions eventually. These were all simple diy type mods.
@jons6125
@jons6125 2 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe use the same colour for hp and torque for each saw? The plotted lines wouldn’t overlap and you could make quicker comparisons without trying to compare with the key the quite similar colours. As you would need half the colours the colours could also be more obviously different. Just a thought loving you videos
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
I will certainly give that a try on the next video showing more than 1 saw.
@timberandtools
@timberandtools 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, I’ve been saying this for a long while! Now I have data to back it up haha!
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, can you show on c. 50ish cc saw or any saw you have what the power difference is with just a muffler mod and a tune to go with it ofc
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
I'll try that sometime
@franklinmitchell9490
@franklinmitchell9490 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever compared fuels on the dyno? I currently run 100+ octane aviation gas in my saw, mainly to avoid ethanol. Any insight on this?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
No fuels tested yet.
@Materagaia
@Materagaia 2 жыл бұрын
Joe you can just cut the bottom 1/3 off the factory deflector on the echo 355t
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Could be a possibility. Not sure what would happen to the plastic around that area
@brianarcher363
@brianarcher363 Жыл бұрын
You probably mentioned in one of your videos and I missed it, but what material and gauge material are you using for your deflectors?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 Жыл бұрын
20g mild and also offer a 20g stainless
@andyjones6361
@andyjones6361 2 жыл бұрын
Joe I appreciate a man of few words You get right to it. But you could sign off by saying what the next video is going to be about. And upcoming builds. “Stay tuned for Wednesday’s video when we install the Subaru engine on the race saw!” Want to help the channel man! Keep up the good work! Great info!
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Appreciate the help I really should dial in a content schedule. But I tend to get side tracked and hit left field really quick before getting back on track... I did see a cheap Subaru in town the other day.... hmm....
@ToddAdams1234
@ToddAdams1234 2 жыл бұрын
It’d be fun watching 😁😆😂😜
@merr6267
@merr6267 2 жыл бұрын
When do we get a video of some of your die repair welding? I wanna see some rebar being fed out of a drum into a 1000amp molten puddle. 😉 Also, good comparo. Will be fun to see the big gainz.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Soon. Need to dig the equipment out and make sure it still works and if I remember how.... It's only .120/3mm wire and 600 amps. But plenty toasty
@elbenny805
@elbenny805 2 жыл бұрын
Hey joe just wanted to say hi just found your channel !! Just subscribed love the content man great stuff just a quick question for you regarding mix as in you're personal preference and ratio as im running mobil 1 racing 2t at 44to1 i have about 3quarts left of the stuff any suggestions would help only at your convenience thanks.....
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I like Amsoil Dominator 40:1 That is what I have been using the last couple of years.
@elbenny805
@elbenny805 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 thanks joe for the reply !! Ive been wanting to try something new for 2022 and i think amsoil is going to be the ticket ive heard about saber but im not so thrilled about the 100:1 ratio ! If dominator is what you like then who am i to argue you're the one with the dyno !! Thanks again joe you rock man 🤟👍👊👋
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
@@elbenny805 Most all of the newer synthetic oils work well at 40:1. I just like what I have seen from dominator I'm these saws. So I stick with it.
@elbenny805
@elbenny805 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 that's a big 10-4 there partner 🤠 not only do you seem real knowledgeable in this area but i can tell you're the real McCoy when it comes to your stuff ! speak of it no more joe 40:1 on amsoil dominator it is right on the edge of lean thanks again joe i greatly appreciate your time ill be setting that lil bell 🔔 till the next video drops keep em coming partner 👍👊👋
@matoscristiano
@matoscristiano 4 ай бұрын
hi there ! on your opinion what type of mods should i do in general and does mods take away from the machines longevity ? thank man
@rushbox1
@rushbox1 8 ай бұрын
I have a shindaiwa 357 and its a awsome chainsaw .
@michaelcasella4774
@michaelcasella4774 2 жыл бұрын
How do you think the cs-620p would run against an ms-361 I watched hotsaws video of it against the 362 and it smoked it. But that’s strato vs non strato I think the 361 would do better because it’s non strato. What’s your thoughts?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Should be very close. I think the 620 is heavier though. Ported all out, the 361 may be a touch more power but it should still be close.
@manuelve1998
@manuelve1998 2 жыл бұрын
My 362 stock blows my brothers stock 361 away. I was 😲, maybe I should give it a closer look when it’s on the bench for maintenance.
@VintageSaws
@VintageSaws Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder how a homelite xl/xl2/super 2 would do on a dyno.
@VinnyMartello
@VinnyMartello 8 ай бұрын
I have an old Super 2. Still has great compression. I should try to get her running some day.
@VinnyMartello
@VinnyMartello 8 ай бұрын
I have a 355t and it’s survived two straight years of my nonsense. It’s definitely paid for itself.
@thejackel1844
@thejackel1844 Жыл бұрын
Wore out a half dozen 200 t's over the last 20 + years, bought two Echo 355's for the price of the 201, jury's still out on this however...
@tristing2304
@tristing2304 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever modded any Stihl 009s? Interested in a muffler mod for mine
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
No, I have not. Actually not ever seen an 009. Sorry.
@treemerc101
@treemerc101 2 жыл бұрын
My company runs small Stihls and big Husky's. The t540xp can be a pain to start up in the tree at times. I've actually thrown one out of a tree because of it.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Testing the durability I see.... The one I have may have come from your company lol. Appears to have hit the ground a couple times.
@steppoffaith8426
@steppoffaith8426 2 жыл бұрын
Lol they can get aggravating. I don't even pull it without choking it anymore. 🤣
@treemerc101
@treemerc101 2 жыл бұрын
Each to his own I guess. I would like to try one of those Echo 2511t saws though just for the reduction in weight.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
@@treemerc101 Ported 2511 is about the power of these bigger saws stock and I believe about 2+ lb lighter.
@treemerc101
@treemerc101 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 2 lbs is a lot less wear and tear on the body over the years. I really appreciate you putting the numbers out there for us. Keep them coming man
@ozdatman
@ozdatman 2 жыл бұрын
I went and listened again, the Echo sounded fat the first half of its run. Are they normally like this or did I imagine it?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
It was a touch fat at the beginning. These small saws I have to apply the load slow, otherwise it will catch and bog them out.
@Dolmar-Rick
@Dolmar-Rick 2 жыл бұрын
Is this really fair. the echo has a cat in the muffler which will restricts flow yes you opened the deflector but still, do the other two have cats being muffler modded and being auto tune? amazing how every ones says the echo is heavier, obviously is not on your scales, but yeah very little between them, i know when i decatted and piped my 355/360t.. turned into a different saw only downside is the filler holes are little small but it is an oldish saw now. still very cool👍
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not 100% fair. But all were simple 10 minute muffler mods. The husky was probably a 30 second mod. These were all just simple deflector/outlet mods.
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, my friends husky 359 has a cat and we bypassed it and it really work up big time. Felt like it had an extra 30% more power.
@jnljnl8485
@jnljnl8485 2 жыл бұрын
Been using a homelite 150 for years to process my firewood. With the amount of crank walk it has it should not run as good as it does.
@viperstrike3827
@viperstrike3827 2 жыл бұрын
What is crank walk?
@jeffreyweible124
@jeffreyweible124 2 жыл бұрын
Where's the 70cc class stihl 462cm an 572xp is really what I want to see them 2 saws others to compare
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
It is coming. Before 2022. That is a hand full of saws to aquire. They are rolling in though.
@chrisp556
@chrisp556 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 have you dyno'd a 462 with the Red Beard foam filter vs stock airfilter?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisp556 I did one of those, I think it was a 462. They did improve over stock.
@chrisp556
@chrisp556 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 thx. I have a Straight Shot and bn wondering if the foam filter showed an improvement on the dyno. Awesome channel Joe
@jeffreyweible124
@jeffreyweible124 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of know how it's going to go with 572xp and 462cm comparison 572xp has more grunt down low other then that they real close I have a heavy muffler mod on both does real nice getting heat out an power gains can't wait to see the results
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be nice to see the weights in kg for those of us who use metric. Imperial was phased out here before I was born and that's more than a few weeks ago ;)
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
4.14 kg for the echo 4.28kg on the other 2
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764. I actually meant in real time on the videos if possible. Loving your work and the channel. Growing nice and fast.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alan_Hans__ Thank you. I will try and do that on the future videos. Or at least put the conversion up in text format. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I often forget this is a worldwide platform
@kwnonsense1974
@kwnonsense1974 2 жыл бұрын
The 540 was smoking the clutch if it had new shoes I bet it would do better just
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
That was smoking bar oil. The exposed muffler on the bottom of the 540 was smoking on the rubber pad.
@kwnonsense1974
@kwnonsense1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 ok that makes sense! Wasn't trying to offend just seen smoke and the rest of the saws didn't as much ha ha anyway great work thanks for the reply
@jeffcollins7611
@jeffcollins7611 2 жыл бұрын
That 540 has be run to death you can tell by the smoke
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
It has some use for sure. I plan to get cash models and the 200t and do the test all stock
@alexmatthews2332
@alexmatthews2332 2 жыл бұрын
Also the discolored plastic around the clutch, I'd like to see another test with a fresher one. The reason I bought mine a long time ago was it beat the 201 stihl hands down before stihl was m tronic.
@carolkampstra3474
@carolkampstra3474 2 жыл бұрын
if you could get the echo 2511t there would make them all look like a joke.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Stock the 2511 dosent hang with these bigger saws in power output. But ported 2511 is right up close to this power level and a few lb lighter saw
@kevindean4284
@kevindean4284 2 жыл бұрын
Jon cutter 2500 might beat them all.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to pick one of those up.
@julianalderson3938
@julianalderson3938 2 жыл бұрын
Yer made the mistake of buyim 540 from dealer, it was a shitter couldnt fix the mtronic thing. Heard was not great on new 540 mk1. Mine was a shitter sold it to the boss cuts small stumps now. N still revs up n down. Sorry negative but other huskys had been great 357. Yer good.
@telecasterfool1773
@telecasterfool1773 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Joe. Any idea how many hours on the Echo? It looked pretty new. Thanks!
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 2 жыл бұрын
Only a few tanks through the echo 6-8 through the 201 and looks like a lot in the 540.
@telecasterfool1773
@telecasterfool1773 2 жыл бұрын
@@dynojoemods2764 Thanks! In your experience, do saws that are broken in gain some power?
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