Hay Chuck, I can't help but feel that somebody should make a video on how powerful highballed Super Goku could be. If you applied all the biggest head cannon Multipliers that are reasonable. Think of it this way: I want you to make me die of a heart attack just looking at how big the numbers get.

Wow so even ssjg being low balled ssj4 is BARELY stronger. Ssj4 is still way more powerful than I thought.

Video was innaccurate. Your first mistake was using a BOG MOVIE line even after bog movie was retconned, because in Super goku said he dosent THINK fusion would be enough. never included the fact that rage vegeta used 10% of berrus. But never minding all of this missed information, Ssj4 > ssj blue. And that's indisputable facts. I don't care what you are or what following you have, or even what you think you are in this community. If you dare challenge me, you're going to get exposed and debunked. I don't know if you want to be embarrassed in front your sucribers...

When makin vids on numbers explain the outcomes then show a chart with the math on so people can double check it for themselves cause people get confused with all the numbers i agree SSB is far stronger then SS4 but alot people dont think so

... Should i post the Comment here ? Definitely worth the read

Nameless Anonymous He was the OG ultra instinct until Goku wrecked his ass with Beerus hacks xD

His hair was actually white.

Nameless Anonymous 😂😂

Andre Ware ISSA JOKE DON'T RUIN IT

Nameless Anonymous its actually grey

Just a Robot lol same as super fans

Just a Robot I'm glad I found your channel a while ago, you gave me videos to listen to while I'm at work where I'm not allowed to wear earphones 10/10

Dia Sabah they do have proof gt fans don’t

ssj5 is fan made. Not canon... -.-

Just a Robot aye its u

Super saiyan god is also less of a primal form so it doesn’t have that cool of a design. Although given the look of super saiyan blue evolution, if super saiyan blue 2 looks like a more refined, spiky, and electrified version of super saiyan blue evolution, then it could potentially look really really cool. I kinda wished super saiyan 2 was much spikier tho so it could be much easier distinguished from super saiyan 1.

@@myusername3689 You say it like SSBE isn’t SSB2. (It is. Say it isn’t and I’ll burn down your house)

Respectfully homie. It ain't weaker, I promise

@@el_hehe9581how

@@el_hehe9581how

I mean aesthetically 4 is amazing. I dont think its stronger than Super saiyan blue but yeah

Ssj4 is my favorite design in dragon ball.

@@blackbird7781 Then watch Dbz hero's

@@exoticspeedefy7916 dragon ball z heroes isnt a show. Did you mean super dragon ball heroes? Also its not an equal comparison due to the fact that goku:xeno and Vegeta:xeno are stated to have far more experience than goku and vegeta and therefore that is partially why there was a power difference. Another thing to note is that ssj4 is a dead end. It doesnt get any more powerful than it is. Look at super saiyan blue and the variants to itn

@@blackbird7781 Which proves my point xeno goku ss4 is on par with blue. I would go as far to say slightly more powerful because of how xeno goku and vegeta held up against cunber (Xeno goku base is actually stronger than goku) However it takes much more effort as you stated fighting experience to do so. The reason xeno goku never had the training to become ssgb only because he was never visited by berus in that universe. Ultra instinct however is far beyond ss4

Mufaro M nah

Yeah honestly,I’ve seen blue so much now it doesn’t even feel like a cool form ..

To be compleyely honest I don't like how ss4 looks like at all. It looks like ass to me.

ssj3 has the best design

Mufaro M faxs

Considering the fact that Son Goku is the japanese translation of the chinese name Sun Wukong, also known as the Monkey King, the buddhist god of battle I would say SSJ4 has a much better design. It pays homage to the actual god. Considering most of Goku's personality, abilities and design in general are already taken from that god it only makes sense that his final form should be a more literal interpretation of that. Just my opinion though. If you don't believe me there's a great youtube series on Sun Wukong you can watch.

Yes but I love ssj blue ssj4 is nothing but a trash

You got it all wrong... SSJ4>SSGSS

iiPanda Dubs sure buddy

@@Binks7077 Yes, Im sure.

Yeah but some GTtards will still tell you since Goku was getting beat up by kefla that means his weaker then buu saga fusions. Even though Goku pratically had 0 stamina and Ki at the time and could only sustain ssjb kaioken for like 3 seconds. 🤣

@@relentlesschaos835 also kefla is actually powerful... her ssj1 is equal to the spiritbomb that is far above pre zenkai X20 Goku blue, and ssj2 had enough power to kill omen 2

@@someedgyaccount3589 Yeah so the GTards need to stop eith that oH wOw keFLa wAs giving Omen a run for his money. When kefla would literally solo GT😂

@@relentlesschaos835 for real. Base Goku from episode 15 onwards solos GT

@@someedgyaccount3589 yeah smh love gt to but like base goku solos GT easily and Kefla should 🤡 on GT as a whole.

it would be terrifying

100 People lol

Please no, Xenoverse makes no damn sense. RoF Arc SSJ4 Goku was able to get the upper hand on post Black Arc SSB Goku.

100 People definitely but that would be hell

BlazingAnimations lol calm down

real_g 30 I mean... SSB is just the SSJ4 of Super. None of them actually got a good win under their belts.

Do you consider every form that doesn't beat anybody wasted???

Masterkjmoney Ultra Instinct would be on that list. Ultra Instinct Omen wouldn't. Crazy, ain't it?

Masterkjmoney It doesn't need to beat everyone to be good. Look at UI. It lost on its first appearance and once it got mastered but never failed to maintain that godly feeling of being in a whole new realm of power. SSB and SSJ4 seemed dominating in the beginning but then Baby was too strong for Goku as an Oozaru and in the end RoF Golden Freeza was stronger than Blue. And the forms just kept getting overused to the point where it didn't even feel as an important thing when they transformed.

Seth Davis Jiren admitted defeat.

i think by adult form he meant ssj4

@@gokutard6801 No, he meant as a literal adult. Goku was turned into a kid in GT.

@@TheLegendaryNomad except earlier he points out that being a child didn’t actually weaken his power

@@ryanrzjr Didn't weaken him, but it did limit him by a lot. He wasn't able to use some techniques because of his body.

@@TheLegendaryNomad except once he had the tail that became irrelevant as the tale kept his stamina and everything else in check.

Lmao hahahaah

*farmer with a shotgun

yes i agree no yamcha

yes i agree Farmer with a shotgun was reckoned to be only Jiren level not angel

CreepyTim Wrong. He was reckoned to be Jiren level, not ZENO level.

@@mrblazeapound7856 dont lowball fanbow hd is massively superior to Azathoth

I don’t know it’s pretty bad tbh and I watched gt all the way through it’s just a major downgrade from z . The fights , the characters , gt is exclusively a story about goku too which hasn’t been the case since the og dragon ball . They introduced all these amazing characters just for gt to sideline literally every single one of them . Make them all useless in fights outside of goku and even the goku fights were so slowly/poorly choreographed that they aren’t even as fast paced as original dragon ball fights which is weird considering they should be much stronger and faster in gt . Moronic plot lines that were made for children which again is kind of wierd considering z was quite mature and even brutal at times . It’s like they forgot how to make characters look powerful . The Frieza fight alone from z has more work put in it than every fight in gt combined battles no longer have much hand to hand and instead of fusing martial arts they just do really lazy simple choreography even the radditz and vegeta battles had more meaningful choreography . The hand to hand combat in gt is literally almost non existent

I liked GT mostly for first Arc, which was basically original Dragon Ball IN SPAAAAAAAACE, which I kinda liked - the Buu arc bored shit out of me - and the Shadow Dragons Arc. Mostly for it actually. And that's becouse it has show the real consequences of overusing the Dragon Balls. You know, those things that the SHOW was called after and was in the most part just a mass res/status quo device thingy so people would not die out. And that great ending - damn, I love that soundtrack from the japanese version of GT.

BaranZenon yes this is true I’ve actually been re watching some gt lately and if they had put a little bit more effort in the fight choreography gt could have been great . The baby saga is honestly badass

@@123NERDZ I think people that love dbs love the aspect of action comedy more in z Why people that love gt love action comedy +a lingering adventure theme form original

*Solgaleo* Because people are idiots that is why. I'm sure someone is going to give the lame excuse of "opinion", but I'm don't bite it. After all it is used when someone has nothing valid to say.

bro you get it

I agree

God Christ Jesus bless you : D

Lmao dbs fanboy.

I'm not gonna fight but i disagree

Exactly. Plus they forgot to mention *_Full-Power SSJ4_* as mentioned when Goku battled against Baby. Resulted SSJ4 Goku taking no damage from " _Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta's:_ *_Final_* _Revenge Death Ball_" ... which is dramatically stronger than the Original " _Revenge Death Ball_ " due to Golden Oozaru transformation

@@aercaux226 it doesn't matter tournament of power goku or resurrection of friends goku can still beat ssj4 goku and post top goku shots on ssj4 in base form

A black shinobi?! Of course, we know Ssb Goku is stronger but I just hate when people downplay ssj4 Goku and on top of that ssj4 Goku has so much more potential to tap into

Light Instinct exactly

It's all good it wouldn’t be a complete blowout tf. Now against ultra instinct no shit he’d lose but blue wouldn’t automatically win against ss4

Edititing was good, the information was mis consutreded and his conclusion comeptlyl innaccurate. GT fodders stomps super. BASE KEFLA is shown to be stronger then than ssj god, THEREFORE SSJ GOD in BOG WASN'T AS STRONG BASE VEGITO (Since Bog only takes place a few months after Buu), and in the anime goku needed kaioken x 20 to combat an ssj kefla. Baby great 1 was already stated to be above ssj vegito, and ssj4 was way stronger. so ssj4>>>>>ssj blue, these are facts only.

Kefla is way stronger than Buu saga Vegito.

Your logic makes no sense goku and vegeta got massive power boosts in those “few months after buu” that’s just in base too, put forms on top of that and their power is way above GT level

Yo true that

4 Gt tard😂

hishunxy of fairytail Why are you trying to argue whether Gogeta is canon or not? That isn't even the point

Yeah BoG was intended as a canon continuation of DBZ where Gogeta never happened so they weren't referring to him.

I mean I know Gogeta isn't canon which was the whole point of bringing up the movie universe, but I've never heard any of those statements so I have no idea who says they're what. I just know they *are* movies which is where I drew my conclusion.

Since Super, BoG isn't canon anymore.

I don't know what the fuck is what around here anymore

👉🥳👈

He specifically lowballs super goku just to give an understanding of how fucked ssj4 would be

Aditya R lol this was a stupid argument anyways

supersoniclegend dude (or girl) he isn't saying EVERYONE who likes gt is a normie but saying that if u actually think that ssj4 wins in battle u gotta get some mental help, now stop being salty. Also only normies like this get so salty

supersoniclegend dude he clearly said that he was talking about before that event occurred. Plus only those at the peak of normies would literally search in the comments for someone to pick at.

BASE KEFLA is shown to be stronger then than ssj god, THEREFORE SSJ GOD in BOG WASN'T AS STRONG BASE VEGITO (Since Bog only takes place a few months after Buu), and in the anime goku needed kaioken x 20 to combat an ssj kefla. Baby great 1 was already stated to be above ssj vegito, and ssj4 was way stronger. so ssj4>>>>>ssj blue, these are facts only.

supersoniclegend there is no proof that goku got stronger from that normie

Broku72 i swear if you say ssg is weaker then ssj4 im unsubing you

Jiren I’m just gonna say that SSJ4 Goku is far stronger than we thought. Goku in Super still shits on him though.

Broku72 hey broku love your what ifs. Can't wait for the next what if beerus woke up after gt.

Kieran Thornhill thanks bro! That should be out next Saturday

Broku72 awesome.

But what about super saiyan god super saiyan 4 kaioken times 20

@@redbutterfly7959 nah ultra instinct 4 kioken x50

Yea u right

Impossible

@ER - 07DG - Robert H Lagerquist Sr PS (1473) super yes z no

A black shinobi?! I don’t entirely know man, I don’t even think ultimate Gohan in dbs is ssg level cause Goku was holding back considerably. Remember how Ssb Goku heavily suppressed beat Toppo easily and ultimate Gohan AND 17 couldn’t beat a suppressed Toppo but then again Gt Gohan can be stronger than Gt Goku

Ichigo Kurosaki hi ichi

what are u doin here

WELL SAID

Probably he wrote them on a paper.

Derick Burgos love your face

Are you gay?

I was scrolling through and read your name as "Dick Burgers" lmao

Yup..and remember how Jiren molly wopped ssjbluekkx20 goku, ssjblueevolution vegeta, golden Freiza and 17 all at the same time while surpressed.

Current MUI is around 18 septillion ... SEPTILLION! lmao. It's insane how strong he is in MUI.

@@yamahakid450f now he’s probably over twice that with the training he did in the moro arc and the training he’s currently doing with whis it’s insane

You must be really dumb if you think that

@@supersaiyajin4goku263 Said guy with Ssj4 as PFP

@@guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 No i say that why Blue is really Shit that looks like an normal Super saiyan with Blue Hairs the ssg looks so much better than the Blue.

@@supersaiyajin4goku263 you have got to be the dumbest person ive ever met🤣 you said ssj blue looks like shit because it look's like ssj with blue hair then u said ssj god looks better EVEN THOUGH ssj god looks like base form fucking goku with red hair dye and somehow that's better than ssj blue? Yeah gtfo🤣🤦‍♂️☠

@@RoseRose-cc6ys Bruh wtf dude The Aura of the Ssg looks so cool and the Red Hair looks better than the gay Hair of ssb.

Purple Pirate exactly

Purple Pirate never stated😂😂😂😂😂

Sec Tec doesn't have to be the scaling in both series is completely different

Sec Tec because ssj4 ANIT CANNON

Because ssj4 is a limit breaker. And before you start saying "OhH BuUT GOd kI HEheHEHEhehehehHHHHHHHHhR" if Goku is able to attain it, it's not his limit

Shake Zula because people are in denial that blue is stronger

Because people don't understand how to porperly power scale in the community SSJ4 is way stronger then ssj blue. Facts only. Seth said BoG movie was retconned but then eneded up using a line excerpt from the BoG movie to prove his point. That's wank. Base kefla is already stronger then ssj god THEREFORE Base potroa fusion >>>> ssj god. Super great baby 1 was stated to already be above super vegito and ssj4 is like many times stronger than that. ssj kelfa was ale to match an ssj x 20 kaioken goku, this means that ssj4 > super great baby 1 > ssj portra fusion = ssj blue kaioken x 20 > ssj blue > base potra fusion > ssj god.

You use the term denial like someone is going through grief.

K, and are you talking about ssjblue anime Goku? Cause he stomps all of GT.

Shake Zula Except he dosen't, and if you actaully had IQ and read what I said, I proved he dosen't. FACTS.

Omegas auea alone was universal,an actual universe. Zenos best feat is those tiny universes in super of only 28 planets each -_-

BOB IGOR RUINED STAR WARS NOT JUST KATHLEEN Could you cite your source on where you found out that Super’s universes only contain 28 planets? Also, according to the Kanzenshuu, Omega is not Universal at all, he could potentially destroy everything in the universe in ~30 days, but not the actual universe.

Yeah it was nice to see a transformation that wasn't just a different color palette

Super saiyan 4 looks cool as hell. Far better than blue, but i still think blue is stronger. Also Zeno deleted a couple universes in a few seconds so... well.... you cant say that omega is more powerful. Especially when Zeno can kill that which is unkillable

Nah ultra instinct

Except ssb isn't 50x ssg as ssbk goku was weaker than suppressed ssj kefla who was only 50x her 10,000x base form, dbs goku is only a low universe buster with mui as before that he's been weaker than the gods who aren't even macroversal as they fear macroversal destruction and beerus was stated to be obliterated by macroversal destruction not to mention that astral zamasu only became one macroverse and was stated by the kais to have godly power beyond their comprehension which further confirms that macroversal>gods>dbs goku pre mui The guide was referring to a what if scenario in which goku and vegeta became vegito in gt, we know this because it states they become super vegito and not became super vegito and it states that goku and vegeta were the strongest warriors when they only time they were the strongest warriors was in gt, the guide upscales the ssj4 form as it's saying that even vegito as a ssj may not be enough for the base version of ssj4, which confirms base ssj4 multiplier>potara multiplier amped by ssj>ssbk>ssb>ssg, and if u really want to get technical xenoverse even has the ssj4 form above both ssb and ssg as stated by goku that he never felt anything as strong as ssj4 which puts it above ssg and when ssb goku admits that ssj4 goku is too strong, both were rof Gt goku in his base form casually shook the afterlife while simply powering up which is a casual multi universal feat as the afterlife dwarfs the living universe in size, and since powering up Is a miniscule portion of a users power and shaking an area is destroying it overtime this means that a fullpower blast from base gt goku in the s17 arc would scale much higher than this, let alone as a ssj4, base sd arc goku pushes base nova to his final form, this same base nova was stated by goku that he's far stronger than any of the dragons he met up until now which includes black smoke shenron who was stated by elder kai and toei themselves to have POWER capable of destroying the entire macroverse, hell omegas sheer existence was destroying the macroverse lmao, the fact that you claim gt has nothing universal just shows that you didn't watch the series Gt>super

FCBrock 101 ssg goku almosted DESTROYED the universe

Djames Whis stated that SSJ Kefla rivaled the universe 7 spirit bomb which in that case was more powerfull than SSJB Kaioken x20! SSJB Goku was able to swap hands with Kefla what pretty much proves that SSJB is indeed 50x multiplier or he would be outclassed! It was stated many times that SSJB (SSJG + SSJ). U.I Goku was stated to shake the entire world of void (same with Jiren) which is a 4th dimensional feat what way above Universal. Beerus and Champa stated to destroy universes if they fought each other, for you to say they arent even macroversal is obviously you being a GTard. M.U.I Goku > Jiren > SSJ2 Kefla >>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ4 Goku. The guide is was clearly referring to (buu saga Vegito) *After Goku and Vegeta use a merging item to merge, they become Vegetto! They can furthermore become a Super Saiyan, making them Super Vegetto* This clearly meant for buu saga Vegito since GT Goku and Vegeta already can ascend to SSJ4. The guide even states that Potara multiplier >/= SSJ4 which means you obviously bullshiting (what the most GT fanboys known for). SSJG was stated many times to be superior than (Buu saga Vegito) and showed feat that blows Vegito away which confirms that SSJG > Super Vegito > SSJ4, Goku went from Multi solar system buster in SSJ3 to multi galaxy buster - Universe buster in SSJG which proves it gave a much higher increase. Xenoverse is also non canon to the story of DB just like GT! Just show me scans or screenshot were it was stated that Goku shook the entire afterlife you assume garbage without having any evidence, GT SSJ4 Goku is at least galaxy buster - multi galaxy buster. Omega Shenron can only destroy a universe “over time” which isnt considered to be Universal you fucking idiot. Omega Shenron was stated to be 10x stronger than before which means Omega Shenron (Multi Galaxy buster) > SSJ4 Goku what equals garbage.

Djames you really need to start putting out your sources because you might be bad shit crazy my guy.

Bro man... SSB is clearly over a 50x boost from ssg. Goku went from getting outright speed blitzed by Kefla to being able to swap hands with her in while she was in ssj, which is a 50x boost. In other words, this essentially PROVES that ssb is more than a 50x boost. What are you even talking about? If he can cover that much of a power distance with one form, SSB is more than x50.

LiTTlleJeiKKie no

Yes, but now that super is concluding we can look back with hindsight. We have a better understanding of the power levels now than 1-2 years ago when those videos were made.

There’s never been a real battle between them so shut up

And... Where is your proof

Terry Covington he gave proof read it

Dank memester He just talked about ssb power he didn’t talk about Goku’s power cause I’m GT kid Goku’s power could also be comparable to vegitos power since just a base Goku as a kid in Gt was much higher than a ssj3 Goku from z

Black Saiyan God and beginning of super goku was stronger than ssj vegito because he said potara cant fight beerus but god could so it would make him stronger than an end of z super vegito so super is still stronger in his base form since he absorbed it unless your talking about the manga

Dank memester It’s hard to pinpoint which one we’re talking about. Ok so in the movie (even if it isn’t reliable) the vegito statement was actually never made and in fact Beerus and Super Saiyan god was much weaker in the BOG movie. How much stronger I’m not entirely sure but I know I’m the BOG movie Goku was NEVER universal, he never had a clash with Beerus that threatened the universe which honestly they should’ve went with in the show because they made the God forms too powerful in Super for them to ultimately lose in fights. But in Super, Goku just absorbed all the power of the ssj god and stacked ssj on it. In the movie he just retained SOME power. Personally I’d say it’s like this Super Goku > Full Powered Super Saiyan 4 Goku (dragon balls absorbed) > BOG Goku

Yeah, he had lowballed him just for the video.

@@Fade12 I know, I just don't want people watching the video and underestimating him. Chuck has always been good at scaling, I just don't want people to lowball him or anything like that. And if I can help out I always try to. No hate on Chuck's part (he's actually one of my inspirations for me getting into power scaling)

@@boomboombro1015 Alright then, glad you're enjoying.

MedicEne I think what they meant, sorry if I’m wrong since it’s confusing, that Goku absorber the power of imperfect God and turned it into regular Ki. So he’s able to use God Ki now, not sure where he pulls it from, but is just stronger in general as well. Going Saiyan God is like using all his God Ki that he can and going Blue is going Super Saiyan on top of that.

MedicEne he absorbed the power of the form but not the actual form itself,he has the power of ssj2 with normal ki basically

All it did was give his base a boost, but his base is definitely NOT SSR level.

MedicEne he pretty much just got a zenkai

MedicEne just bad writing no changes

Also, for those passing through, Goku was de-aged into a childs body which nerfed him quite a bit.

@@matthewbreytenbach4483 and as a Child he was still STUPIDLY strong. Geekdom101 did a vid on it

Escanor Lion's Sin of Pride Base Goku (Super) (RoF Arc) could probably take SSJ4 Gogeta. If Omega was going to universe bust overtime and he was about 10x stronger than SSJ4 Goku, then SSJ4 Gogeta is only about 2.4-9.6x Omega. Going by the "dozens of times" statement in the GT perfect files. It's generous to say that SSJ4 Gogeta is universal, and to be even more generous I'll say SSJ4 Gogeta = SSJG Goku (BoG Arc). Goku was stated stronger than when he fought Beerus in his base, so logically Base Goku (RoF Arc) > SSJ4 Gogeta.

Austin Smith you guys are fucking crazy and smoking crack or something to believe that

Coming from a person that has a ssj4 pfp, nah i don't think so lol

Escanor Lion's Sin of Pride exactly ssj4 fanboy

John Belardo exactly, it kills millions of braincells just reading that

2 androids fusing was holding his own against ssj4 so if that is the case who is to say that its wrong dont blame the form blame the logic of gt which is why its not cannon

@@stormyluffy7046 Those same to Androids were able to fuse hell and heaven together by simply powering up. And are hundreds of times stronger than a Goku who was able to destroy a universe and shake Heaven and Hell but yeah sure Android Saga villains.

@@waffleten9750 since somebody deleted the other thread, ill reply here. goku didnt destroy a universe, or even a dimension. in the japanese version, the dimension was already being torn apart. all he did was open a doorway with a kamehameha. he also didnt shake heaven, just hell.

vegito was the culmination of vegeta and goku in a potara fusion, which is more efficient than the metamorese fusion dance. we also never saw his max power as he did have the ability to go ssj3 since goku was able to. he was also able to take a beating from buuhan without a scratch to show for it while in base form. buuhan combined not only buu's power, but gohan and the kids. gohan in ultimate form was more than a match for ssj3 goku. as for gt kid goku being equal to buu, the best theory i have heard so far was that he was referring to kid buu. ssj3 goku was able to go toe to toe with kid buu and even blow him apart several times while he was able to fend off attacks from kid buu with little actual physical damage. he did succeed in overpowering him several times. kid buu had one thing that uub, even majuub, never had. magical regeneration of stupid proportions. it took a spirit bomb powered by an entire planet to overwhelm his regen and destroy him completely. so saying that kid goku in base is equal to kid buu isnt as great as people make it out to be. plus, the only thing that even ssj4 gogeta did that was even remotely considered universal, quite generously at that, was kicking away omega's attack and transmuting it from negative to positive energy. that only really effected the planet. ssg goku was considered at least galaxy, if not universal level just by his fight with beerus alone. then you gotta take into account the difference in power between baby vegeta and beerus. beerus would have beaten the snot outta baby vegeta easily, and was easily capable of destroying a planet utterly by accident and not even noticing. baby vegeta, even in golden ape form, blasted all the way through earth with a gallick gun without destroying it, even though such an attack should have done so. ssj3 goku blasted all the way through the kai planet in a similar fashion. the planet of the kais was also larger than earth, and withstood a super spirit bomb powered by an entire planet of people, although heavily damaged.

@@johnboggs1164 In the Japanese dub thats never stated. The game was going to break and Goku was going to fall into limbo.

Perler Bear shaghan calvo is weaker that shaghan verde

Spanglish 🤑🤑🤑

That still wouldn't be enough

CJC7 It would help, I think if Gt Goku was in the tournament he’d content with ultimate Gohan and 17

Light Instinct lol no pretty sure he’d be way higher than that

@@lightinstinct707 no manga gohan was stronger than ssjblue goku

Dönermann Ali Manga Gohan was not stronger than BlueKu lol In the manga it was like this Kefla=Gohan

really ?! ...

yea its in the game but the game is not cannon, just like dragon ball heroes XD

GAMER F2P yeah a skilled player can shit stomp UI goku with a saibamen illogical lmafo same could be said when you fight all the forms of goku and vegeta they go ssj4 then gogeta ssj4 then defuse and fight in ssgss but....

GAMER F2P games are not cannon tho

GAMER F2P nah "Maybe" Not even close

RKD Ram it probably could not win but it will be a good fight

Thank you!! GOD Goku could fucking shit on ssj4 Goku , people don't what the fuck they talking about anymore

RKD Ram lol even DBH aka fan service the game made SSB Goku fight SS4 Goku and SS4 lost and was exhausted while Blie was fine

Alistair Stormbreaker aye, that your opinion🐐

RKD Ram Actually in Xenoverse SSJ4 is stated to be stronger than Blue.

Super saiyan blue.