I was also a big fan of the cake line

Lol

That reminds me of Micheal from The Office s: "We can't fire him without cause, Micheal." "We have cause! It is beCAUSE I don't like him!"

Rember respect the actor she was really good at acting umbrige 😊

@@elle_heartsz4143 . How right you are! Imelda Staughton is an excellent actress!

Ooh yes good shout! She definitely deserves a place on the list. Where would you put her?

Oh yeah. Let's pray wizard paparazzi never becomes a thing. She would be apart of that so quickly her quill could barely put it on her to-do list. 😖

True, I'd have put her in the list instead of Lavander.

I’d have her on the list if it wasn’t for Order of the Phoenix. When she got blackmailed by Hermione to write an accurate story about Harry in the Quibbler she put her all into honoring the demand. Even though she didn’t want to she still upheld her part of the deal completely which I can respect.

@@MereImitation I'd agree in any other context besides blackmail lol. I would instead respect saying "fine bust me" because that means someone is willing to stand by the actions for which they're getting blackmailed to begin with lol

the irony that the reason they wouldn't be friends is because Marge would hate Umbridge for being a witch and Umbridge would hate Marge for being a Muggle, is too similar to real world prejudices to be funny but otherwise

@@rachelzahava8292 they said if Marge was a wizard

Hmm. Inflate umbridge til she pops. Good punishment for her.

@@prakritivirmani this is true but also Rachel has a very interesting point as well :)

Umbridge is not capable of friendship. Neither is Marge.

A teenager that was backed up and guided by the most powerful and wise wizard who ever lived (Dumbledore) and numerous other powerful wizards.

@@abraham2172 Yeah but they all only had one life. Moldy Voldy had multiple lives and squandered them all like a drunken game of Mario world.

Way to ruin the joke there pal

​@@abraham2172backed yes but he did it mostly with just the help of other teens and finally by himself.

​@@abraham2172 he wasn't tho. He was alone at the cemetery, and in the forest. The only 2 places he actually fought him at.

20:58 lol

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I'm literally just starting the video and I'm going to go ahead and assume that that would be them reacting to umbridge

Yes

It's like a whole mood

Don't forget the best part of OotP, it introduces the last member of the silver trio, the better trio, Luna Lovegood. Seriously can we get a new version of book 7 told from the silver trio's perspective. That would be awesome.

@@endersdragon34 that’s interesting, “the silver trio.” I’m assuming that’s Luna, Neville, and Ginny?

@@jenniferpajor5365 Yeah

@@jenniferpajor5365 Yep I would love to see what the school was like that year

I for one would love to have all of them as teachers!

My parents had some weird teachers kind of being the way you described, although definetely not as bad as Filch.

He may have started out plucky and eager and just years of job have withered him away, and it’s probably his only employment opportunity, I can’t imagine a lot of people wanting to hire a squib and he may not be literate in the ways of muggles, in fact he may not even have a formal education to speak of.

Was it officially confirmed it was only 1 spell? I don't remember too well at the moment, but honestly that whole "kill 13 people with 1 spell" seemed like an exaggeration of the event, especially fitting peoples' belief that Sirius had gone insane. Regardless, 13 people then a getaway, all while confronting Sirius, does show more skill than we would've thought - wether it was 1 spell or not. Hadn't actually thought of that before, he's usually seen as this "un-skilled, tag-along" member of the Marauders. Makes you also realize just how cowardly he must have been, to know that maybe he could have put up a good fight against the death eaters but ended up joining them out of fear anyway.

I thought it was 12 + faking his own death 13 was for Sirius right because Peter was thought to be dead as well

They should make a top ten list of bad guys based on body count. Voldypoo is still #1, but I don't know the rest. Bellatrix, Fenrir, Crouch Jr., Pettigrew, probably round out the top 5.

@@IlikedpieCA If I remember right he caused an explosion and that's why there was such a high body count for only one spell.

@@PhilBagels Arguably, Grindelwald could be on top of that list.

I thought Dudley sort of apologized in book 7?

@@IDH1198 You're right, he did. But his parents never did.

I COMPLETELY AGREE with you. In my mind, Harry's Aunt and Uncle are right up there in level of evilness to basically be on par with Umbridge. I'm COMPLETELY CONFUSED as to why Harry's Aunt and Uncle didn't make this list. I mean, for goodness sake, his "Aunt" Marge made the list! WHY NOT the Aunt and Uncle that ACTUALLY RAISED HIM, and treated him HORRIBLY his ENTIRE LIFE!!!! Kinda oxymoronic if you ask me.

@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 I don't think you are using the word "oxymoron" correctly.

@@lorenztor1990 I don't care what you think. I think I am. Reason why is because the Aunt and Uncle that ACTUALLY RAISED Harry Potter, and CONTINUALLY, on a DAILY BASIS, treated him HORRIBLY, didn't make the list, and "Aunt" Marge, who treated him just as badly, but in isolated incidents because she didn't live with them, made the list. I believe it's an oxymoron because characters who continually were horrible to Harry Potter didn't make the list, but someone who was only in ONE book and movie, DID make the list. I feel more consistent HORRIBLE treatment deserves to be on the list MORE than isolated horrific treatment. That's why I call it an oxymoron.

Snape is just "childish forever, serious at times" and that annoys me, how he is so mature when he is dying and "betraying" and so imature in every other instance of time.

I never thought about it that way before.

She could go to a different school.

⁠@@fightingmedialounge519 Yeah but she would have to live with the knowledge that this world of witches & wizards exists, yet she would be unable to access it.

​@@fightingmedialounge519Then why didn't Harris when he was expelled?

@@redshed2020 he barely knows anything about the Wizarding world.

I always wondered this too. Even if it took a while for her to decide to come back as a ghost, she could have told the story at any point and they would have figured out really quickly that Hagrid was innocent.

She didn't entirely know what killed her either though, all she remembered was it's eye, IIRC. If the Hogwarts staff/Ministry of Magic even knew of Myrtle's ghost, they likely wouldn't have changed the story anyway. They'd likely suspect she just simply didn't remember the whole event of her death, especially given how incompetent the Ministry is (at least as shown in Harry's time)

She knew enough to tell it wasn't a spider as big as a hand (Aragog was smaller back then). And yes, the point I am making is that the Ministry is bad at their job

To be quite honest, I feel like Hagrids expulsion was just a matter of time anyway. Sure his monster wasn't the one that killed a student, but it 100% had the capability of doing so and was a huge danger to the school, and who knows what other creatures he might have tried to bring in later on?

Also I don't think she was interested in helping anyone Else. All she did after choosing to become a ghost was stalk and make one woman's life miserable, to the point the Ministry had to get involved.

His motives really sound like Ron's

Totally agree. I would never have Percy on this list.

THIS NEEDS MORE RECOGNITION

but Percy's accomplishments WERE celebrated, Molly was always so proud of him and comparing his siblings to him ('why can't you be a prefect like Percy, why can't you get grades like Percy, why can't you be perfect like Percy'). he was given a pet multiple times for his accomplishments, and his parents were supportive of him in pretty much every aspect until he turned his back on them. his siblings obviously don't hate him for his accomplishments, but there's bound to be at least a little bit of resentment (especially on Fred and George's parts) after being compared to him for so long. I'd love to read the post you're talking about, but as of right now, I can't say much of Percy's anger towards his family was justified.

also Fred and George were the overlooked brothers not Percy. Fred and George had all of their efforts condescendingly undermined by their parents and they were constantly told to be more like Percy. imo anyone who thinks Percy's actions were justified at all is trash just like Percy was.

And you dont even get top hate spot, that goes to a woman in a pink cardigan.

hahahahahahahahaha

@@occheermommy hahahahahahahaha🤣

@@lauralugo9341 you know Voldy is pacing the room. “I was the biggest dark wizard of all time and these people hate HER more than me”

And no nose

Yes! She was doubleplusgood

Strangely enough, I though the actress (Imelda Staunton) was too pretty for Umbridge; don't get me wrong, she embodied the character of Umbridge to a T, her demeanor, her voice, the little cough (& of course the clothes were as I imagined); but, in my mind, her face was too soft, no sharp lines (& I don't mean wrinkles) or hard angles to any of her facial features or head shape; I could be biased given the book art, however the impression I got from how she was described in the book is not what I saw just from Imelda's face

It gave her depression mate

ehe

Umbridge is the most hated character in the books, and the actress fully succeeded in making that statement true for the movies also... unfortunately for us in the audience, that was really well done by her! :D

That barely makes sense. Snape defended Harry's life again and again throughout the series, even going to extreme lengths near the end of the series to ensure Harry and his allies won the War

@@Jonathan-A.C. All of that might come down to personal opinion, but imo "saving his life" does not excuse the shitshow Snape made of his behavior to Harry and almost every other child in this school. As I see it, he's abusive, point blank. Imo opinion he should have been third place on this list, second being Petunia and Vernon.

@@luisab5726 Delusional. That is the biggest and clearly most impactful thing he did for them, and really, he did it multiple times. I don't see it

@@Jonathan-A.C. As I said, it comes down to personal opinion. I don't think the "good" he did outweighs the "bad". You seem to think so. I don't see how that makes me delusional, but you do you

@@luisab5726 I don't see how saving lives consistently while risking one's own life is not somehow outweighing harsh bullying

OMG my state's governor is also remarkably like Umbridge, and I'm just now noticing it. Are we from the same state?

@@flickcentergaming680 NY, but if you are from Michigan we may be able to consider this a draw

​@@loudgoat5241 nope. IA. The fact that there are so many slimy state governors right now is pretty concerning, no?

@@flickcentergaming680 Yep. Both parties. Not even a left/right problem. Self-righteous authoritarianism is everywhere, just a matter of which nail this style exactly with the Umbridgelike phoniness.

I'm not defending their actions but Dumbledore manipulated them into taking Harry he left them no choice but to take him in after seeing him in their doorstep and by doing so comprising them so they needed the protection he offered them it was wrong in Dumbledores part I know and he knew that he couldn't have given them Harry face to face coz they would have refused and he sent petunia a howler threatening them. I'm actually not surprised they mistreated him their normal life was intruded on with something they thought was gone from their lives. Petunia got the message in a letter that her sister was dead yeah she was never fond of lily but still a bloddy letter saying oh yeah your sister was murdered heres her child. Their safety was comprised their child's safety forced to look after Harry and have their lives turned over. And then having to move because their safety was comprised their child was almost murdered yeeah I don't blame them. Yes they definitely should have treated him right but I kind of feel for them, Dumbledore messed with their live unfairly. Heck he could have tried to raise Harry at Hogwarts if he really cared about other people it's a no wonder people don't like Dumbledores that much and see him as someone who thinks of people as chess pieces

Long & Loud! With a lot of double and's too! (Also, also)

The next big series, possible bigger than Dumbledore's plan and "What if Harry was a Slytherin?"

A very long and great veido

They already did a video like this. It was long time ago and they hit every nail on the head about her

I could write a whole book about my hatred and disgust for her

Definitely worse than Lav-Lav

I love the scene after that match where Harry is like “I’m going to kill him” and Madame Pomfrey is like “I’m afraid that falls under over-exertion” and pushes him back onto the bed

I a previous video, what if Harry was in Slytherin he hit a blusher at Harry hundreds of feet away which hit Harry on the head and knocked him out and potentially could of killed him because he was jealous he was talking to hermione. And cormak was the same his character didn’t really change. HOW WAS HE NOT ARRESTED AND CHARGED FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER. If the super carlin bros thought he was capable of that then he must be a piece of work

@@theeeveelutionist7245 Ironically, McLaggen was actually the most likable in the film. He was still cocky, but at least he was a somewhat decent person. Probably one of the few good changes in the film.

@@theeeveelutionist7245 that sort of happened in the books as well.

He could have, but I don't think he would've trusted anyone enough to be the secret keeper. And as far as I understand he couldn't be the secret keeper himself.

And imagine Regulus did the same

​@@sellola He might trust Bellatrix and lucious with it because he gave each of them a horcrux anyway. If not all of them at least use the charm on the one he gave them

@@robertoleary5470 yes but regulus was taken there by kreacher who had been there with Voldemort

@@sellola I think he could’ve been the secret keeper, Bill was the secret keeper for him and Fleur so idk

I agree, he was going to kill Neville’s toad, mocked Hermione for her large front teeth, and relentlessly bullied Harry in a persistent and targeted way.

@@dmidkif I think is actually nothing comparing with him becoming a Death Eater and a trusted Voldemort ally. No one ever asks about this, but how are you trusted so much by Voldy if haven't killed someone?

​@@TheMagicAroundbecause he was a spy. Silly question

@@universenerddhe wasn’t always a spy he was a true blue deatheater at the start of his career

You are wrong . Snape is my favourite character .

imo the problem was never the amount of points (they were 100% deserved), it was just the way they were delivered. Harry was in the hospital wing for several days, he even missed the last quidditch game, which also affects house points. Doumbledore had ample time to award the points. He could have told Harry right then and there when he visits him in the hospinal wing, but, nope, Dumbledore chose to do it in the most petty and humiliating way possible to the Slytherins, and that just feels wrong. The students didn't do anything to deserve that. Sure it creates a great triumph feeling from Harry's side, but when you look at the bigger picture it just feels wrong for Dumbledore to have done it that way. It's much much better how it plays out in year 2, with Dumbledore awarding them the points immediately after they returned from the Chamber. It's even more points, but you don't see anyone complaining about those because it wasn't done in a way that humiliated other students. edit: btw, forgot to mention I fully agree about Snape. I'm just speaking from the students' perspectives.

Tears of joy yes those whole two house points he took from Harry and their very first potions lesson really the absolute make or break of the entire house cup

@@kiminimuchu__ Snape was a complete cheater with the points system and Dumbledore knew it. If he'd given Snape 10 seconds, he'd have taken the points away for some ridiculous reason to make sure Slytherin won.

@@kiminimuchu__ By "students" you mean Slytherin students, because all students from other 3 houses had no problem with the way Dumbledore did it! It was the opposite - they all were very happy about it, says the book. And Slyterins never had any problems with Snape humiliating everyone except them?

I think it’s because she’s a lot Lily, a muggle born griffindor who is academically gifted and friends with Potter I think we’re seeing some residual resentment At play.

Actually, Snape did have friends in the book. He hung out with a number of other future death eaters. It's why there was a break down in his friendship with Lily. She didn't like his friends because they were, admittedly, horrible and she couldn't understand why he was so interested in dark magic.

he hated her when the trio wasnt even friends yet @@SpykeTheSU

@@ilbwfy1550 shes still a lot like Lily though

Imelda's performance was so good.

@@ritainez10 There really were some top-notch performances throughout the series. No one would ever doubt that Dame Maggie Smith is gifted, but lots of the less prominent characters were also played by great actors. Ciaran Hind (Aberforth) turned in a great performance, and I'd bet you wouldn't recognize him in the 2004 version of Phantom of the Opera, or as Mance Rayder in Game of Thrones.

I would even give Michael Gambon a high review, despite his "'DIDyOuPuTyOuRnAmEiNtHeGoBlEtOfFire?!'" Dumbledore asked calmly."

Imelda Staunton was phenomenal. Her and Kenneth Branagh (Lockhart) are my absolutely favorite character portrayals in the movies, they played their characters to perfection.

@@kiminimuchu__ Well, if you want me to be brutally honest, Evanna Lynch was the absolute best at her character, but that's because in JKR's words, "There were many girls who could play Luna Lovegood. Evanna **is** Luna Lovegood." That means that Evanna wasn't actually doing an excellent acting job, though. She was just naturally the character.

It wasn’t supposed to make sense, it was supposed to be Umbridge toeing the party line

This is just like, "who's more annoying?"

As far as I can tell, he was sorted into Hufflepuff because he's descended from Helga Hufflepuff herself (since Voldemort stole the cup from a Smith and they likely were related). Maybe that shows loyalty to his family/ancestry? Idk.

@@angelaphsiao that's the only reason that makes sense

He might be you guys' Pettigrew. He doesn't showcase any Hogwarts qualities, but admires those of Hufflepuff so y'all got stuck with him. Sorry, mates. 😢

@@YukiSilverFox72 that also makes sense

@@angelaphsiao makes sense, although Smith is a pretty common name

On this list, you mean? Well, technically, Peter Petigrew is a Death Eater, but yeah, other than those two, I didn't notice any other Death Eater on this list, which is extremely odd! I mean, for me, Bellatrix Lestrange, Lucius Malfoy, and Fenrir Greyback would DEFINITELY have had made the list for me.

I think they were avoiding obvious additions to the list. I liked that they didn’t include them because it gave me more to think about characters who aren’t all necessarily “bad”, but definitely are annoying. Also, Ben mentioned Bellatrix, Lucius, and Fenrir Greyback at the end of the video, acknowledging that they deserve to be on an evil list. I just don’t think that was the exact purpose of this video.

@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 I like Bellatrix though. Fenrir is just generic.

They do have a list of most evil characters in Harry Potter; they may simply have been showing how you can dislike characters for reasons other than how evil they are

Wasn't exactly a stand up guy even before his issues with james.

​@@fightingmedialounge519 how?

@@krishmajumder1411 didn't really have favorable opinion of muggles, and was already into the dark arts.

But when he sees his cat murdered or hurt oh he gets mad.

@@krakenguy6200 Can you blame him?

@@jasondyrkacz8270 fr

@@krakenguy6200 I mean if someone killed your pet you wouldn't be like "okay." would you?

I mean he restored the fat lady painting

I don't care who you are, if you exist, you hate u******e

I understand completely. I get an anger twitch everytime I see the actress in something else (especially Malificent where she was a pink fairy). Umbridge is my most hate character of any franchise.

@@garyhatmaker6589 Well, I get and understand your point, but, you need to keep in mind that the actress who played Umbridge is an actual person and human being, and their real life personality probably ISN'T the same as the role she portrayed as Umbridge in the Harry Potter franchise. From what I understand, that that particular actress, in real life, is actually a sweet and kind person. So, we can hate the character of Umbridge all we want, but we CAN'T hold the personality traits of the character against the personality of the actor/actress who portrayed the hated character. We HAVE TO differentiate between the two

@@bonedaddyshonestreviews6933 No yeah, I totally understand that the problem of people not being able to differentiate between actors and their characters is not an uncommon one. But in their defense, the three fairies in Maleficient were also meant to be annoying.

@@scarletbailey6086 Yeah, I get that. But they also had good intentions at heart, despite being annoying.

Yeah that was super dark. Like I wouldn't judge him for being too scared to fight, we're all only human, but to actually be pushing people out of the way to get out? Man that's dark.

@@emilykeepsmiling9465 Not just people. The youngest and least skilled students, students who were literally taught as little defensive magic as possible because of their Death Eater teachers. Zachariah Smith is 100% deserving of a spot on the list of people to hate more than Voldemort.

Did he do that in the books? I’ve never seen the movies and I don’t remember this happening😅

All of the other hufflepuffs stayed to fight. He gives them a bad name

yes, especially with Lavender Brown on the list; I don't see how her apparent fickleness could be worse than his outright snobbery; I can see why she could make a list like this, but not how she'd rank higher than the hufflepuff that makes Ernie MacMillan seem likable

They forgot to pay the math budget again...

That's a brilliant point! Mind you, with how twisted her mind is I'm sure she could concoct some ridiculous explanation 😂

Well she was willing to let Harry get expelled/wand broken for using magic in front of a muggle against dementors which SHE sent after Harry, then had the audacity to say he was lying and was using advanced magic as the patronus charm (which as far as we know is really only good for warding off dementors) for something OTHER than warding dementors. So I think it's safe to say she probably doesn't care if Sirius is working for Voldemort or not, just that he's a "rule-breaker"

I think her main reason for catching Sirius was just so she could impress Fudge. Although I can't remember for sure if it's canon she was obsessed with him, or if i watched too many potter parodies from @chanwills0 😅

I tend to believe that unlike Fudge, she knew that everything Harry was saying is right, but she is a professional gaslighter.

who else wishes voldemort used the killing curse on umbridge?

Well. It's actually Narcissa who made Snape take a vow, in the book at least. And also killed Sirius kinda by the accident (it was the stupify spell in the books), but she also was super happy about it so it doesn't really defend her, I think. But I was ready to saw her in the list, actually. But perhaps Helen is just too amazing to hate any of her characters. Despite all things Bellatrix have done she is one of my mom's favorite characters on movies just because of actress. Mine too as well. I just can't get mad at her even if she killed Dobby.

For me it was the scene where she tortured Hermione. That took her to the top of the most hated list for me.

Yeah, he has literally one redeeming quality: the tiny mercy he has when he slackers his grip for a moment

At least he had a satisfying death. Umbridge did not.

Yep, Pettigrew is definitely the character I hate the most, even more than Umbridge. Something about the fact that he did all those horrible things out of cowardice, while understandable as an explanation, just makes him that much more dislikeable.

I really pity him more than hating him

Moaning Myrtle? You have me intrigued. What's you're thought process?

I just find her really really annoying. Her background is tragic, no doubt, but I cringe at a lot of the scenes, where she is present, in fact, most of them.

Yeah

Obsessed, perhaps with a belief of entitlement to Lily mixed in. If he and Lily were teenagers and at Hogwarts now, he'd likely complain of being in "the friendzone" (which is nonexistent, except in the minds of those who think they're entitled to a person's time, attention, and body just because they lust after that person).

Interesting, may I ask, what makes you think they were Seers? Totally agree with them being exceptionally gifted, not to mention creative, charismatic, brave, loyal and lots of other things. But I never thought of them as Seers. Please will you share your train of thought? I'd love to read it 😁

@@emilykeepsmiling9465 That they were willing to bet every Knut they owned at the Quidditch World Cup on the unlikely outcome that Krum would catch the Snitch, but Ireland would win the game. There were a couple other events throughout the book series, which I need to re-read.

I don't think they were gifted at Divination. They only passed three O.W.L.s and those were Transfigurations, Charms, and Herbology.

The Weasley twins were hackers, through-and-through. Magically speaking.

@@JosephDavies I LIKE IT! I do believe, despite Emily's observations above, that they are also excellent potioneers. They didn't get an O.W.L. in Potions simply because they didn't care about tests.

I don’t think he TURNED dark. He was portrayed by the other characters to have been someone always attracted to power and people with influence who were able to protect him and provide him with something he wanted. He didn’t have integrity, he picked a side and switched when he felt the tides were turning and then tried to go back.

Exactly! Lav-Lav does not belong on the list at all! "Hate more than Voldemort"? Seriously? And neither does Percy. You know who does? Rita Skeeter. And ALL the Dursleys. And Draco and Lucius. And Crouch Jr. And Quirrell and Lockhart. And Mundungus Fletcher. And definitely Bellatrix and Fenrir. And maybe even Kreacher.

Yeah Lavender might be annoying to some people, she was too codependent on Ron, but mostly she was a teenage girl crushing and gushing about her first boyfriend. Her characterization is dripping in misogyny towards women, especially girly girls (which we see repeated throughout the books unfortunately with Cho, even Umbridge).

​@@PhilBagelsnot kreacher I say crouch Sr

Yeah, I would say that Snape was driven by obsession of Lilly, not love.

Heck, he was perfectly fine with James and Harry dying. He only wanted to save Lilly.

I think so many people are like oh he was motivated by love so he protected Harry and thats why he was really a hero in the background. NO!!!! Im sorry but he wasn’t motivated by LOVE at all. He never Loved Lilly. He was obsessed with her and wanted to posses her, whether she liked it or not. When that didn’t work and he figured out he was responsible for her and her husband dying, then guilt began to eat him up. He “protected” Harry because he was guilty over his part in the death of his parents not because of love. Also I say protected but lets be honest he was horrible to not jus Harry but also everyone who wasn’t in his house. Neville said he was the thing he feared more than anything else. This is his teacher. Im sorry he isn’t a hero, he didn’t love Lilly but was driven by guilt. He may have loved her in his possessive way but the biggest thing was obsession which later let to guilt. Also the argument that he was mean to Harry so if Voldemort read his mind or other death eaters found out, it was a cover for his helping all along. Then why did he have to torture the rest of the school???? That wasn’t about the plan to defeat Voldemort, that was his way of being on top. He had been bullied as a kid so he was going to bully the kids so he could feel good. Im sorry it wasn’t like Neville was a threat from the start. Yet he was a bully from the start to him. (Probably because he knew VM could have chosen his family and didn’t so he resented him). Neville isn’t the only one. He is terrible to every Griffyndoor. We dont see it but it is stated how bad he is at the first banquet. Look at Hermione. That wasn’t just because she was Harry’s friend. It was because she was smart and probably smarter than him and he hated that. He was an immature child who did one thing right his whole life. He didn’t think of doing this thing right but did do it and I give him credit. Believe me the one thing he got right was a BIG deal, but it doesn’t overshadow all the bad he did along the way.

@@occheermommy i’ve never agreed more with any comment. Snape was obsessed with lily and that isn’t a reason for him to be redeemed.

@@occheermommy the only part of your comment I disagree with is your claim that Snape wanted to possess lily whether she liked it or not had that been true he would've used a love potion to force her to be with him also I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Snape didn't switch sides & get his act together when lily ended their friendship he still actively chose to associate with his future death eater buddies & still joined Voldemort & committed God knows how many atrocities & actively told Voldemort the part of the prophecy he overheard & only when he realized that lily was being targeted did he decide to work as a spy against Voldemort so I definitely agree that everything he did post lily's death was out of guilt & a desire for revenge against Voldemort don't forget that he openly admitted to Dumbledore that he didn't care about Harry at all & was offended that Dumbledore would think he did he was only mad at Dumbledore for deceiving him

Percy had no familial loyalty whatsoever. Trash character.

@@Emporkommling I disagree.

@@Emporkommling Well, he went back, didn't he? Didn't he realize he was wrong? He thought Harry was putting HIS family in danger, that his family couldn't see what Harry was doing was "wrong". So Percy was wrong, he was still worried and still cared about his family because he came back. After realizing he was wrong. Can't a character be wrong?

@@Emporkommling he was trying to protect them and move up in the ministry to do better for them… He was misguided, but his intentions were with his family and when he realized he was wrong he was fighting right there on the front lines with Fred.

He was also the ONLY one that followed his mother's dream of her children Woking in the ministry. He's also very much the one everyone ignores including his mother so I kind of put the blame on Molly they never treated him like family and he definitely felt that I would also turn out worse if my mother actively showed that she didn't care for me and my siblings yeah maybe in private Molly was like oh Percy I miss him however she never showed that she loved him heck she showed that she loved HARRY more than her own child

Yeah, there were definitely a lot of protections on the ring. That’s what killed Dumbledore. Voldemort left it in the Gaunt house with a bunch of protective curses around it. Dumbledore went to the Gaunt house and found the ring. But when he realized it was the resurrection stone he put it on. Unfortunately Voldemort had put a powerful curse on it, so that anyone who wore the ring would soon die. He and Snape were able to stop the curse from spreading, but he was still going to die within the year. Since he was already going to die he told Snape to kill him so that he could become the perfect spy.

10 - Umbridge: she was actively sabotaging students' learning with her terrible teaching methods 9 - Umbridge: she made the life of the other teachers harder 8 - Umbridge: she manipulated scrool rules just to assert her control 7 - Umbridge: she was biased and played favorites with the stidents and houses 6 - Umbridge: she gaslighted everybody whenever Harry tried to tell the truth 5 - Umbridge: she was full of prejudices 4 - Umbridge: she acted against the law while pretending to be lawful 3 - Umbridge: she sent dementors to attack a teenager 2 - Umbridge: she tourtured students 1 - Umbridge: she's just the worst

@@kiminimuchu__ Just retitle that “Top 10 Reasons to Hate Umbridge.” Better yet, expand it to Top 20.

i agree @@EmmaJones-tu8pj

Hmm I never thought of that before. Maybe since there’ll already dead it isn’t his worse fear because it just feels like pain?

Neville wasn't there when his parents were tortured. Frank and Alice were hunted down separately and taken to a place the four Death Eaters had decided to use and were tortured. Neville was never there. 😮

@@kaylieghskorner9650 but they arent dead. At least his mother is alive in st mungos

@@thorthewolf8801 both Frank and Alice are still alive and in St. Mungo's.

He doesn't remember. He only knows what the curse did to them, and that's enough. If he had been there, he would have been used as an interrogation tool and he would probably be dead.

I think that's a bit of a stretch. Fudge wasn't really a bad guy until the fifth book when he denies Voldemorts return, and mistreats Harry for insisting otherwise. We can't really blame Snape for that.

I thought this too. They could be victims of his Death Eaters too. In a sick way I kind of like your suggestion of them being from a Muggle graveyard better. How's this? ....they were from Little Hangleton graveyard!! Yet another way to defile his Muggle father's heritage.

I think Voldemort was too selective and choosy about every detail that went along with the horcruxes to just rob any old graveyard. He chose the object, death, location, etc from their significance to him. I think he would have chosen them specifically, significant deaths but that still reminds you of just how many people he killed. It would have been wicked creepy if Harry have recognized some of the inferi, like from missing posters or news articles or something.

Well Umbridge does have fervour; but instead of for religion, it was for a broken government that was full of mostly corrupt individuals who either worked for a mass murdering lunatic or were ostriches, considering how far people like Cornelius Fudge shoved their heads into the ground shouting, "LA LA LA LAAAAAA!!!!! You-Know-Who cannot have returned!!!!!!!!!!" There were very few people, like Amelia Bones, Kingsley Shacklebolt, and others, who actually wanted to investigate the Voldemort thing but were blocked at every chance by the Ministry.

Her religion is government, but only when she can control it 😂

Yeah I feel like he wasn’t an innocent victim. At their first interaction he laughed when James said he wanted to be in Gryffendor and then they started in on him. Im not saying James and Co. didn’t take it too far, but when you start it and then get out maneuvered, its not really bullying, its just picking a fight with a bigger dog and losing.

@@occheermommy bullying implies he was a victim that didn’t fight or couldn’t fight back. James vs Snape was the same was Draco vs Harry. Draco was a bully, but he didn’t bully Harry, they were rivals

Also, in order for James to use Levicorpus on Snape, someone had to have seen it used on someone else in the first place. Since Snape invented the spell, James or someone else had to have seen Snape use it on someone else. Snape admitted it was a spell of his own invention when Harry tried to use Sectumsempra on him and he told Harry he was just like his father trying to use his own spells against him.

​@@nickschulte3915 not exactly the same since James was more popular and had more immediate friends.

​@@occheermommy also technically that was after they insulted slytherin. It ties back to neither being particularly civil.

That sounds even worse than Umbridge to me tbh. I mean yes, Umbridge was evil and was torturing the students, but Lockhart literally wanted to let Ginny die and erase Harry and Ron's all memories, making them insane basically. Also he did the same to countless other wizards

Yep, and while in school he went around calling muggleborns "mudbloods"

Dumbledore only turned against Grindlewald because of Ariana's death. And if running off to serve a Voldemort is bad imagine how much worse it is to attempt to *become* a Voldemort. Whenever and however people come back from that should be celebrated no matter how it occurs. Moral goodness doesn't only belong solely to those who never were bad.

By the time we meet him and see those sentiments expressed, he's already been bullied for years, at home as well as at school.

@@JosephDavies is snape was a truly good character, he wouldn’t bully anyone else cause he has first hand experience to how bad it feels to be bullied.

@@sylvy16 If only it worked that way. Unfortunately a good number of bullies and abusers IRL were themselves once victims as well. Trauma has a way of perpetuating itself. :(

@@JosephDavies I know on the train ride James isn't the nicest,saying he'd leave of he was in Slytherin (obviously mirroring Draco talking about Hufflepuff) but is it ever actually said he bullied Snape before he expressed those ideas?