Supreme Court Grants Cities Power to Enforce Outdoor Homeless Sleeping Bans

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The Supreme Court has ruled 6-3 allowing cities to enforce bans on homeless people sleeping outside, even if shelter space is lacking. This decision overturns a Ninth Circuit ruling and grants cities greater control over managing homeless encampments. Critics argue this criminalizes homelessness, but proponents assert it's necessary to maintain public safety and order. The ruling is seen as a victory for cities like Seattle and Los Angeles, where homelessness has surged. Advocates for the homeless worry this will worsen the crisis, but supporters believe it will deter drug use and other illegal activities prevalent in encampments. This decision underscores the need for cities to find balanced solutions that address both public safety and the needs of the homeless population.
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@ReasonableNews 10 күн бұрын

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@brownhat1290 9 күн бұрын

No one should be allowed to pitch a tent in a public sidewalk and declare it his homestead.

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@TheHappinessOfThePursuit 7 күн бұрын

@@OldGuy555 buddy they’ve tried this in several different cities and the homeless people absolutely destroyed the homes and ended up on the street anyway. They don’t want to live the way you live they want to live the way they live. That is why they choose it daily instead of a shower and a job interview. They hate work.

@OldGuy555 7 күн бұрын

@@TheHappinessOfThePursuit LOL!!! Free housing must be built as minimal and indestructable as a prison. Duh!!! My question is what do YOU propose: 1) Let the homeless infest public space 2) Provide minimal housing 3) Prison 4) Concentration death camps HINT: Housing costs less by FAR. HINT: Stop being a mean asshole.

@erickberg5641 3 күн бұрын

@@TheHappinessOfThePursuitputting them in jail still costs the tax payers far more than actually solving the issues government policy made for them to see it not worth getting a job and being productive in the first place.

@poodlescone9700 10 күн бұрын

We have to appreciate the ironies in this case. Blue cities mayors and governors are applauding this 6-3 decision thanks to conservative judges while the three DEI appointees were fuming. Why we got here was because the 9th circus made a terrible ruling in the Idaho case. Years later, the 9th circus issued a memo to their SF employees to work from home because the federal courthouse is unsafe due to all the drug addicts camping outside their front door. At the same time, the blue cities and states use the 9th circus decision as an excuse for not doing their job until the APEC summit proved drug addict removal can magically be done when their Chinese overlord comes for a visit with no negative impact to budgets.

@Trid2bnrml1 8 күн бұрын

maybe these blue cities should spend some of that money they're using to buy illegal alien's votes, and oh, I don't know - SPEND IT ON SOME HOMELESS AMERICANS for a change. We've got illegals living in luxury hotels, but we can't find space for homeless Americans to get off the street?

@PumpkinKingXXIII 10 күн бұрын

I’m just saying in my mind, if the city allowed people to do whatever they want in public space, build and store whatever, then the city should not be able to tell me what I do on my property.

@sorbabaric1 9 күн бұрын

Or make us give them our money.

@smp-vn3pc 9 күн бұрын

Great point cause if I try to extend my wall on my own property I need a permit but if I'm a lazy criminal drug addict I can do whatever I want with zero consequences

@redleo380 8 күн бұрын

Sounds lovely

@monkfrank9607 9 күн бұрын

If America could get rid of drugs half the problems would be gone 🫵🏻

@geraldstone8396 9 күн бұрын

And the other half is mental illness.

@eileeneclark9011 9 күн бұрын

7/2/24...TOO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED! CRIMINALS + POLITICIANS PERMIT + ENCOURAGE ALL THIS RIDICULOUS "HOMELESS" BS!

@Nottazippo 10 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for saying this . These situations are not homeless issues they are Drug problems and failure to prosecute issues . As a former LEO I can tell you there is only one thing that will cure these situations and it’s not Free drugs and or paraphernalia or a safe get high place ! The mentality Ill need to be forcibly placed in a facility for long term treatment if needed . Don’t tell me different because I have been there and had to deal with people just like these .

@fladave99 10 күн бұрын

All the libs want to virtue signal when they are camping on YOUR STREET, but if they camp on THEIR sidewalk and sell drugs, stinky poop and steal THEIR bikes and lawnmowers they freak out and demand they be arrested. Its looney town so maybe realty will sidestep the retarded voters making politicians rich

@Abcdeisner 10 күн бұрын

They need to bring back the asylums.

@cmotherofpirl 10 күн бұрын

THIS❤

@tinyvr7036 9 күн бұрын

They were called residential treatment centers, with board and care. locked facilities. Many were poorly run by the owners and closed down. (Misappropriation of funds etc) Tragic.. 🙏

@cmotherofpirl 9 күн бұрын

@@tinyvr7036 still better than what we gave now

@lancelotdufrane 10 күн бұрын

Bad decisions topped by more bad decisions. I want my public spaces back! I hope these sweeps are vast and consistent. Homeless people by loss are not the majority. You’re right. It’s lazy, drug fueled, selfishness. I’m sick and tired of it.

@sorbabaric1 9 күн бұрын

Just think how much less it would cost taxpayers, and how fewer homeless would be living rough on the streets if there were 3 choices 1. The men’s or women’s homeless dormitory or family apartment with drug testing required, inspections, curfew, and requirements to keep themselves, their areas clean, and contribute to the work of cleaning, cooking, and maintaining the house. And be polite and civil to each other and staff. 2. Leave 3. Jail. If we the tax payers are paying for their housing, we have every right to ensure its safety, pleasantness, cleanliness, efficiency, and make the rules. What they have allowed and funded more of isn’t being kind, it’s incredibly cruel, and harmful to not only the homeless, but everyone living there.

@genoinjian7729 9 күн бұрын

Over 90% of homeless people don’t want peoples help & want to live in the streets.

@denisevarner7308 8 күн бұрын

Not true for the disabled elderly who make up a significant percentage of homeless no one talks about.

@kayeandrews7499 4 күн бұрын

No they don't,how TF do u know? Are you homeless?

@DouglasRamirez-dj7sd 10 күн бұрын

" News For Reasonable People " is keeping it Real 💯

@terryevans1976 10 күн бұрын

As you noted, the issue isn't the necessity of a place to sleep and that shouldn't be how they are ticketed or arrested for. It should be for creating a public health hazard, for illegal drug sales and use, prostitution, etc. If cities use the real issues for clearing these places they will have no problems in court. Gov. Little in Idaho has already won that. It's a "lifestyle" issue and that issue involves a lot of criminality. Don't allow the criminality.

@sorbabaric1 9 күн бұрын

Also, a sidewalk is built and maintained for the public to use as a sidewalk, if people are camping on it, the public that pays for it can’t use it as a sidewalk. Same for public parks. It’s a park for the public to use as a park, not someone’s private tent space.

@donnastokes-manning6175 10 күн бұрын

Cities cave a responsibility to their taxpayers and allowing tents to be put up on sidewalks in front of stores hurts their business and puts them at risk of danger. Only people who want small businesses to fail would allow that to happen.

@donnastokes-manning6175 10 күн бұрын

Have, not cave. C is nowhere NEAR H so not sure why that happened

@tmann9090 5 күн бұрын

Its ok just dont let it happen again lol@@donnastokes-manning6175

@hughstephenson2957 10 күн бұрын

It shouldn't have never gotten to the SC!! Local and state governments make policy on domestic issues. These "homeless advocates" and the ACLU should have never been allowed to file these lawsuits

@tommykrynock 9 күн бұрын

Well you can't have people taking over parks and sidewalks just camping wherever they want sorry but it is illegal now

@genoinjian7729 9 күн бұрын

You can’t help someone who does not want help. They have options & won’t use them

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@kevinc9006 9 күн бұрын

All that money we send to other countries would build them a community in the desert

@donnastokes-manning6175 10 күн бұрын

It shouldn’t have gotten as bad as it did before taking it to SCOTUS.

@rodcooper1514 9 күн бұрын

Where's all the Canabis tax money that was paid in Cash

@kellybrandon1179 9 күн бұрын

Funding corporate America's subterranean

@sarahniemeyer9954 10 күн бұрын

how about more affordable housing so people don't have to work 4 jobs and still not qualify for an apt

@rodcooper1514 9 күн бұрын

Grants Pass thanks the Supreme court

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@Sassquatch713 9 күн бұрын

It’s not the city of Angels . It’s the city of homeless.

@mgk920 10 күн бұрын

Next up, will someone with standing sue to have the USSupremes overturn their 1926 decision in 'Ambler Realty Co. v the City of Euclid, Ohio', which legalized municipal zoning for land use control? I don't see how that meshes with the 'taking' clause in 5A.

@themobseat 9 күн бұрын

If they're homeless, a prison cell with a bed should be an improvement. What's the problem?

@RobbinFlowers 9 күн бұрын

Your paying for the private prison bed.

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@kayeandrews7499 4 күн бұрын

Your stupid

@erickberg5641 3 күн бұрын

Sure give the government more of your money to profit off of problems they cause in the first place with their stifling economic policy and giving these people no relief. Can't afford $2000 rent? You must be lazy and want to live on the street as a criminal so let's send you to jail.

@denisevarner7308 8 күн бұрын

No political representative has the courage to restructure case management for these people with wrap around care. Residential care never crossed their minds. This is far worse than what John Steinbeck wrote about in the Grapes of Wrath. It's dehumanizing. Not one psychiatrist has been approached on how to structure a solution. Not one.

@JustSamD 9 күн бұрын

I think its a good ruling because it gives cities the ability to deal with the encampments through legal laws without constantly being hassled by the courts. I think some laws are too inhumane, targeting people who need to rest outside since they have no other options, it should be dealt with through changing the laws. It shouldn't be dealt with through the courts. To ReasonableNews, homelessness is partly structural. and not all the fault of those homeless. They're not all drug addicts. There's not enough shelters period, all spots are occupied, newly homeless want shelter over being outside because its dangerous. Many really got lost in the cracks, been outside/homeless too long, and don't know how to rejoin society, lacking basic skill to get jobs, and even getting jobs, lacking a way to even afford to live on income. This is from experience.

@dalepxp8963 9 күн бұрын

The homeless are mostly drug addicted, criminal, crazy, sick from substance abuse, laziness, sloppiness, alcoholics, and the few that just can’t figure out life, those are in the small minority. Farmers all over the USA, need workers.

@MyLove-uj8zi 7 күн бұрын

Cities need to provide an area for camping for homelessness. These people need to have a place to be. What shelters my city has no shelter..

@scottmarquardt3575 9 күн бұрын

I caught myself between paychecks with no money living in San Francisco. AIDS was going full blast and it was still ambiguous if you could sleep in your car. I have the smallest car ever. Slept in a chair at the somo shelter, then found a pretty ambiguous place to park my car the next 6 nights. I learned a lesson and never let it happen again. After I got myself set up in the suburb of Newark top dollar they chased my drunk, pretty ass out. Famous last words take me to the airport😢 should have been..... Oakland

@firestick4991 9 күн бұрын

If I can’t put up planters, I’d put up a bunch of my own tents. Then what are they going to do?

@princessmarlena1359 10 күн бұрын

I don’t mind the homeless if they keep to themselves, don’t make a mess, don’t cause trouble, and don’t bother anyone else. I myself was once homeless, and that’s how I lived. Sadly, not all homeless people behave this way and their problematic behavior is why the crackdowns are needed.

@elainembla 9 күн бұрын

No camps,, now they really won’t let evictions happen. Those squatters are safe!smh

@veijotirronen2010 9 күн бұрын

Its good for the tent manufacturers 👍👍👍.

@woozlewuzzle9791 10 күн бұрын

Here in Vancouver we are finally learning that bringing the overdosed back day after day has made them profoundly brain damaged and there are more and more attacks on innocent people. We sure are compassionate!

@Vachelll 9 күн бұрын

Useless to revive a od.

@rachelk7555 9 күн бұрын

Send the CHRONICALLY home less to Afghanistan.

@kalin6149 10 күн бұрын

When gavin newsom can proove to clean up the city in a weekend for world leaders to show up for a conference, it basically prooves they can do whatever they want. Question is, how much money did grewsom newsom give each homeless to "hide" for the weekend? It was a good ruling.

@BeyondPC 8 күн бұрын

No one should be banned from sleeping; that is cruel and unusual.

@jtamezf 9 күн бұрын

And yet the left coast will do nothing about it.

@tarajo4836 9 күн бұрын

It is getting more and more important for truth to be considered when forming an opinion on any subject. No subject is black and white. In this Subject of homelessness, NOT ALL HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE THE SAME WITH THE SAME LIFE PROBLEMS. There are so many variables to being homeless or becoming homeless. Especially in these hard times. I don't agree with setting up on a sidewalk or leaving trash, etc. I also don't agree with arresting and criminally charging a citizen.

@GoodyGoody534 9 күн бұрын

Sweep and provide positive resources, insane asylums, mental institutions and shelters. Those that decline any of the positive resources- send to jail. Most will self destruct unfortunately.

@markbrisko8720 8 күн бұрын

First put the politicians and city managers in those "insane asylums", that's were they belong!

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@edwindelgado8775 8 күн бұрын

Some people don't want any help they like living on the streets

@notanomad9320 10 күн бұрын

You know, the homeless brought this on themselves by not policing the encampments and letting things get trashed. At some point it becomes a health issue where the city has to do a clean up. Had the supreme court not ruled this way, what would stop the homeless setting up camps in everyone's yards or government buildings? Our local city finally moved the homeless off a very popular bike trail that we use all the time. So nice now.

@coolerking7427 8 күн бұрын

Build home or use all those abandon buildings for homes.

@MrWebster 9 күн бұрын

I think the Portland mayor will enforce the camping prohibition (last I heard). However, the head of the County Commission's office said they would keep providing free tents.

@987654321wormy 9 күн бұрын

Portland never learns...🤦

@davekinghorn9567 9 күн бұрын

Not just homeless people. Anyone.

@richardthomas2423 7 күн бұрын

About time someone starts to have some common sense 😒🤔😎👍💯 and we can give money spend on the homeless that don't want to leave for a shelter to our Veterans 🤔😎👍

@101kasperbaby 5 күн бұрын

Why not just provide space for homeless in every city.

@tinyshamrocks2172 9 күн бұрын

I had a homeless step daughter.. she didn’t want ‘shelter’ because it stopped her from bringing her drugs in

@markbrisko8720 8 күн бұрын

Bingo! That's the main issue with the problem.

@kayeandrews7499 4 күн бұрын

Crock of Shit

@kwren-od3si 9 күн бұрын

So American, sweep non criminal problems under the rug, and ignore the poor in the worst economy since the Great Depression

@veijotirronen2010 9 күн бұрын

Just give them more money , what is the problem ?.

@tiffanybarbee9316 9 күн бұрын

Somewhere along the Conveyor Belt of Life..the Sorting Arm Malfunctioned .and I ended up in an Alternate Universe. I think it happened in 2020. When they made me obey a bunch of Social Rules.. getting me ready for whatever is coming NEXT on the Slippery Slope we are gathering Speed on...😂

@tinyshamrocks2172 9 күн бұрын

The only reason I agree with this is because being in the city right in the streets makes it unusable for tax paying citizens and they are there for easy access to the drug market.. anything that makes that less convenient, to me, is a good thing. If they can’t sleep there they may have to seek employment and do like in the old days, and go to the next city till they find work

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@joesimons7387 9 күн бұрын

I don't see Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, or Los Angeles doing much except window dressing. Same with many Blue Progressive Urban Cities in the United States. Vancouver BC is in another country so they have their own laws and as far as I can tell they won't do much and haven't.

@joejohnson4183 5 күн бұрын

If planters are not allowed then why are tents ? Just remember Gavin Newsome says Calif is the model for dealing with homeless and wants to bring Calif to all of America .

@elmarty4803 9 күн бұрын

I truly agree with you that leaving people to just keep doing drugs on the side of the road is more inhumane than trying to force them into treatment or a confined facility. Slowly we will get back to people being housed in facilities that are able to push humans to get actual treatment or mental health services.....and then the abusive actions will start from poor management and poor financing. We will go from the 80's and their progressive change to the 80's ideals once again. It may take another decade but we will get there.

@regor2102 10 күн бұрын

The homeless had more rights then the business owners the land and home owners than the renter the women and children of any given community. But not any more? Seems fair to me. LOL! love it!

@andredaedone5 8 күн бұрын

I would bet that 95% of the slugs living in Grants Pass homeless encampments are not from there.

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@andredaedone5 7 күн бұрын

@@OldGuy555 Alligator pits cost 10 grand.

@karlpetzing525 9 күн бұрын

They are breaking laws left and right... lets make a new law... pretty dumb.

@jamesotisjr2322 7 күн бұрын

San Fran Cisco has become Calcutta, 1924

@andrewh2u 9 күн бұрын

WA staying Woke until the bitter bitter end...... King County Sheriff’s Office on Supreme Court ruling: ‘We will not arrest based on the change in this law until other issues are addressed’

@Dtgray12 9 күн бұрын

Remember when Cali wanted citizens to make shed space for homeless people.

@user-my4kw4pg8f 9 күн бұрын

So they will push them off the sidewalks in the city, where will they go. What is outside the city's, homes! Wow, that could make sense.

@tmann9090 5 күн бұрын

Ive been homeless a few times in my life but I didnt have a tent and wasnt stealing power so I could sit on my ass and mooch off tax paying people who were hard working and providing for thier families. I was too busy getting a job so I could get off the street. The choice is simple either get busy finding employment or starve

@kevin11humor 9 күн бұрын

The 3 against it need to be booted.

@kayeandrews7499 4 күн бұрын

No the 6 for it need fckn booted!

@bearmcquade2846 10 күн бұрын

Great Day ! Proud American ❤

@fladave99 10 күн бұрын

@jamesarias4451 9 күн бұрын

Chasing the scream.

@notanomad9320 10 күн бұрын

Too many uninformed people say this is criminalizing homelessness, no its not. It merely gives cities the power to enforcing outdoor camping otherwise why couldn't the homeless just set up in city hall or some other government building? Using their argument, BLM has a 14 day camping limit, does that outlaw camping?

@OldGuy555 8 күн бұрын

Incarceration costs $100,000/year. A little house costs about $50,000. Mmmmmmmmm...... Is there an accountant in the house?

@notanomad9320 8 күн бұрын

@@OldGuy555 that’s why they’re not to jail these people in the first place. Most cities don’t have the resourses.

@kayeandrews7499 4 күн бұрын

It Does criminalize it, it benefits the rich fcks like every thing does.

@DB57RB 9 күн бұрын

Some of these cities giving needles and basically encourage the drug behavior is really just assisted suicide by a different name.

@htomc42 9 күн бұрын

It does make a certain bit of sense though...the idea that if they had easy access to clean needles, they wouldn't need to share them and spread blood-borne diseases, which is a public health good offsetting the cost. I was for it at one time. The problem with that whole line of thinking is the assumption that people who inject drugs are rational, responsible people, and that they would properly dispose of or return the needles when done. That's not what we see in the real world, instead we just get more bio-hazards among their typical litter.

@tmann9090 5 күн бұрын

Just declare the planters as shelter for homeless plants. 😂

@user-sm2pp3gm6k 9 күн бұрын

OK, and why exactly did this even involve the Supreme Court? We are a Republic. Have we done away with "State's Rights supersede the Federal Government". I didn't get that memo.

@987654321wormy 9 күн бұрын

Nobody took away states rights. The SOCTUS just confirmed that the states can choose to remove them without legal ramifications. The states can still keep encampments if they want or remove them as well. There were lawsuits and push back, this just clarifies everything.

@tmann9090 5 күн бұрын

I personally know people who boarded an aircraft and flew from New York to California because they made more money panhandling and got away with drug use and theft. All died of drug overdose or gunshot wounds. Just one person got clean and is alive and well and is back to society

@oreillysc1 8 күн бұрын

I’m ok with this as homeless problems have to be addressed. Have they figured a solution or thought this all the way through? If you arrest them and jail then they are housed. It just needs to be done cheap or it will be a burden to tax payers. I don’t believe spending billions on houses is the answer as it will breed laziness

@QuiLe-qw5jb 9 күн бұрын

👏👏👏👍👍

@TwilightVaramek 8 күн бұрын

intresting never knew that citys were not sweeping were i live my city has many city ordancens and local city laws one of wich makes homlessness styraight up illigal regardless of what it is you go to jail for it or get heafty fines. its also illigal to live with anyone your not directly related to i knew someone who as kicked out of a freinds house cus the police showed up due to a neighboring incident and they grabbed everyone id and when they asked them if they were related and they said no the cop dragged them out and said you cant be in somone else's house unless your family. initaly i thought itw as bogus tell i looked up the city ordences and local laws and yea it was written right in there

@alanthomas7358 7 күн бұрын

Do you think the 24 billion dollars missing could of helped any one out.

@veijotirronen2010 9 күн бұрын

Its good for the tent manufacturers 😄😅😆😂.😊

@preshisify1 10 күн бұрын

Melinda divorced him, supposedly over Epstien, he said losing her was worse thing that has ever happened to him...

@preshisify1 9 күн бұрын

@@themobseat that was on the topic, he said the bill foundation because they are no longer together

@freedomoffgrid 10 күн бұрын

First!

@icosthop9998 10 күн бұрын

Nice 🎉

@gs547 9 күн бұрын

Great news, huh!

@stunspot 9 күн бұрын

You sure like to talk about majorities and how most are REALLY like so. Yet you never cite percentages or sources. Go there at midnight? Try living it for a few months. You have to sleep. Run your sweeps all you want, those men will still be sleeping somewhere. You need to cope with that reality. If you dont have shelter, or your "shelter" is so nightmarish that no one will go, sweeps exist only to harass and solve nothing.

@simonbrown8868 9 күн бұрын

give a man a fish & they're hungry in a day. Teach a man to fish & they're feed for life.

@Trid2bnrml1 8 күн бұрын

unless they run out of fish...

@preshisify 10 күн бұрын

😷 ☕ 🇺🇸 🗽

@bartholomewceremony6981 9 күн бұрын

FEMA camps

@stevemc7889 9 күн бұрын

DOES ANYONE SMELL THE SHINGELLA,,,,,,,,,,,,, HMM, YEAH

@burnbabyburn-od5sy 9 күн бұрын

this guy has never even seen a homeless person with his own eyes but he talks like he knows something about homeless what a looser this is whats wrong people that know nothing thinking they do

@kayeandrews7499 4 күн бұрын

Amen to that, he is a judgemental d*ckhead

@user-fv5ms4sz8e 10 күн бұрын

There must be provided to the homeless, some legal place to be destitute, you just can make living itself illegal.

@htomc42 10 күн бұрын

Poor farms. But activists and modern homeless hate these because they can't lay about, do drugs, drink, and behave badly. It's almost like all of this is a war on responsibility.

@williammorgan7769 9 күн бұрын

Most are drug addicts. Most are violent. They’ve lost our sympathy.

@tinyshamrocks2172 9 күн бұрын

I had a homeless step Daughter.. she didn’t want to stay in the shelter because she couldn’t bring her drugs in.. the majority of this is drug users/abusers… not regular folk

@kellybrandon1179 9 күн бұрын

Slab city

@htomc42 9 күн бұрын

@@kellybrandon1179 Yep. You think they would be flocking there, but they aren't. There's a reason that they set up their campsites in the city and not way out in the woods. It's because of access to all the free stuff. They could panhandle all day long by a mountain stream and get nothing....they have to go to the cities for the bleeding hearts and stupid politicians to support them the way they want to be supported.