Hi, Mazy here :) Thanks so much Ben for having me on. If anybody has any questions about my Discord group or wants to talk further I'm available!

Her use of writing and Internal Family Systems to diologue with and and integrate lost suppressed parts is really inspiring. Great interview with an awesome person.

Medical malpractice for a butch lesbian with trauma and undiagnosed pain. Completely misdirected and mistreated at every turn. My heart aches. They are sterilizing gay kids and calling therapists unsafe and unfirming who are practicing exploratory therapy. The impact of ideology playing out in young lives is here for us all to see. What an amazing young and dynamic person you are. Mazy. Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom.

I remember listening to Larry Elder (a talk radio guy for ages) talk about his estrangement with his father, and when they got back together, Larry started asking his father about his own upbringing. Apparently, it was eye opening and healing. Understanding is key.

I appreciate that Mazy is recommending to parents that they open the communication lines for their child to express their feelings and air out their ideas without any fear. Talk therapy is so important with ALL strained teenager relationships.

She has deeply repressed memories which have not yet been dealt with. No child has a horror of urinating unless something terrible happened. It may yet come to the surface at any age, but for many abused children it happened as a baby and there is no memory that will ever make sense. Also her multiple musical gifts and intelligence suggest type 2e (twice exceptional child) autism. She is right that family trauma alone could explain her detachment and desire to run away and be self reliant because she lacked trust in adult figures. Her male identity image reflected her trauma. Thankfully God stepped in and redirected her. I believe her.

As usual, this detransitioner episode gets more hardcore and upsetting as it goes on, I vicariously feel your pain.

These interviews are incredible. Jesus, these people are so interesting. I especially enjoyed the whole exploration re male/female and the dreams!!

Genspect released a video on a medical fad of the early 20th century that involved removing women's ovaries to rid them of all manner of psychological issues. Mazy's experience makes me wonder how many of those women went crazy as a consequence.

sweet girl. God Bless you

Ok I want to be nice here because it sounds like this girl got screwed over by her parents and a bad mental health system.... but I don't want to hear about the national guard being too heavy handed during the protests. I am all for the right to protest but you don't have a right to riot. If you are daily attending protests that turn into a riot every night you cant complain about the cops treating the protesters like they are criminals when every night a bunch of them turn into criminals. So many people had their property destroyed or were killed by these lunatics who weren't even protesting for a legitimate reason. Chauvin was prosecuted immediately, there was nothing the government could do about what happened to George Floyd. Also I encourage everybody to watch the full body cam footage it tells a much different story then the cell phone video. I almost went to a protest once in california ( I couldn't get off work) where a couple cops killed a homeless man (kelly thomas). The protest had an actual actionable demand. They wanted the cops charged for what was an actual murder. It had been six months and nothing had been done about the situation the police chief just covered up the incident. All of this is to say I have no empathy for the blm protesters. It was an illegitimate cause and they or their cohorts did billions in property damage. I think it was shameful we didn't crack down on them harder.

What these people have done to themselves is horrible. And to think that so many ADVOCATE for it to be commonplace and normalized to the youngest and most vulnerable. AND WITH SUCH FERVOR. SICKENING.

Mazy, how articulate you are! I'm sorry this "monster" happened to you. I'm glad God healed you.

Thanks for sharing Mazy. 🐿

Mazy, I don’t talk well with my mom, but if we have a project to do together or we work on making something artsy, and plan on being done with that visit when the project is done - it helps. Having a task to focus on, get comfortable with your energy, neutral talk, not too much eye contact, and a clear time to end. Then we can be side by side and compliment each other and chat to get used to each other’s language again. Just enjoy doing something beautiful together. Maybe you could both bead a necklace or bracelet to exchange to each other. Just an idea. It would be hopeful to say before the meeting, I don’t want to make this be the one meeting in 13 years that makes up for every missed day, so I want us to have a good time together to start again on a sturdy footing. Let’s just start by putting the first bead on the string.

She is a very creative soul. I liked this interview.

Just listened to some of Mazy's music on her channel and it's wonderful. Keep exploring, playing and singing, you are very talented :)

I remember when she went by Nemo and left the Counterweight Discord group because we were too anti-trans. That was years ago. Glad she finally came around!

Great interview, a very articulate and intelligent person. Thanks for sharing Mazy

Yeah, I was in New York in the early 2010's, in the deracinated culture, during and post-Occupy, with early woke characteristics. Ppl outside urban areas and college crowds might not realize, it's been a solid decade and a half of this.

I feel sorry for this young gjrl. I have multiple autoimmune, autonomic and hormone disorders. The pain is greatly dependent on stress/PTSD flash backs. Many drs have said to me the condition(s)is brought on by trauma, especially in young ppl (that was my story at just 3 y/o). It's been a LIFELONG FIGHT getting diagosed. I've been gaslit and misdiagnosed every step of the way. What's worse- chronic pain or being treated as a liar by the person you're begging for help? Her road for a proper diagnosis will be a long and expensive one. God speed.

Excellent conversation. ❤ Thank you for sharing this story.

How the hell is her sound quality so good being outsude in the wind????

Mazy was great! Wonderful insight and as with so many who seek that "transgender" path... a good thinker. Thank you both 🐈

Sounds like her mother really did a number on her.

Excellent

Wow, from the music, to the writing, to the Into the Wild, I feel you homie.

As a fellow twin cities area Minnesotan, the multiplication from before to after Castille was a similar degree to before and to after Floyd

What an intelligent woman who was seemingly dealt a bad hand in familial affairs. Glad she’s found her way through.

What a well spoken young woman! I feel she has touched on some insightful information that needs to be explored for the future trans and detrans people combining the medical impact and the psychological aspect of the human body. We know so little! What a crazy time we live in! Mazy, what an adventure and your art is such a gift to help you cope with all you are going through. Peace 🕊️☘️

Mazy, it’s lovely to hear your laugh. Thanks for telling your story. ❤ Your Texas experience vs your early life explains a lot! God does indeed heal, so glad you are seeking Him.

Insightful. Something here for everyone to learn from.

55:55 Oh noooo, they're gonna inject women with T to increase workforce productivity.

Looking forward to it.

I spent years talking to therapists who had no idea what I was on about. As Mazy says There really has to be a means of identifying what type of therapist is appropriate.

I think it’s interesting that I’ve come to the same conclusion about bringing my social circle together and reinforcing our social fabric. It’s a very traditional womanly role, which I find amusing as someone who struggled with gender nonconformity. It’s really sunk in the last few years that the world is a wild place, and your family network is how you all get through hard times. And that’s on a practical level, not even talking about emotional well-being.

Mazy's shirt is approximately Benjamin's background, and vice versa...coincidence?

My mom's from the Minneapolis area, that's why I stay inside, like a brutal winter could occur at any time.

The blockers sound just like the ADD pupils the school nurses were being allowed to give the kids in public school back in the 90s/early 00s

This sounds so much like the medical field of oncology 40 years ago. You couldn’t get real answers. Everyone was just guessing and experimenting. Not to say, cancer isn’t still a medical field of disarray…

Also from South Mpls, & SPOT ON w/ the Texan “ice” observation! Briefly lived in Texas, not too far from Austin YET way so far away (Fort Hood)! What better to bridge the gap w/mom than to have her SEE this podcast. Everything explained/expressed & quite well. 🐢

Mazy! If there is way that we can communicate outside of here and privately please let me know how to do so. I'm terrible at social media. Gave it up, in the most part a decade ago... I understand all you're speaking on spiritually and have much, much, MUCH to share. Look forward to speaking to you!

Hah, I also have a general paradigm I've been developing over time, that involves perception relative to the personal locus of consciousness! Except it specifically involves the different bodily proprioceptors, and things like Michael Levin's bioelectricity in relation to the proprioceptive field, plus a hypothesis in this context as to the nature of qualia. I have an advanced PhD in "dropping out".

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What a fascinating young woman.

I find your guest fairly pleasing to look at.

About committing an involuntary act of defiance - tell me about it. It's like ripping off a band aid on a wound you know is infected.

KZfaq lost most my comments in chat. Someone needs to sue them.

Good ol' Saint Floyd. The miracle is that he was asphyxiated while continuing to bellow "I can't braethe". It musta been the winds of justice that kept those vocal chords vibrating! It's right up there with bread and fishes, or walking on water.

I do have to wonder if Mazy was born prematurely. Premature babies can have an insane amount of medical procedures done to them in their first few months of life and I believe that would have to be a level of trauma that stays housed in the body. It might explain the surgical procedures visions and fear of needles, etc. I also wonder if there is a missed diagnosis for something like a DSD - Turners’ syndrome perhaps?? I hope Mazy can find out what her health issues are.

Genspect are discussing the various "fetishes" and their history in a series of discussions here on You Tube. Mazy's physical relief from pain after taking testosterone is remarkable (she seems to have retained her voice thank goodness). The roots of the mind's problems can be on the one hand purile, even comical, and on the other hand they can arise out of an attempt to redirect disquiet onto more socially acceptable phenomena. Their discusiions are well worth listening to.

1:16:20 Hmm. DID (multiple personalities) seems to be colliding with the trans movement. Is it psychosis because of the imbalance in hormones causing that drift? Though I've seen it in nonbinary people who aren't on hormones, too.

If she wasn't sexually abused (she didn't say she was) - I wonder about birth trauma.

Look if we wanted peacocks we'd go to a wildlife channel - cats please, especially cats waring.

Mazy, what do you mean when you say there is an LGBT orthodoxy that is toxically positive?

The fact that the Medical personnel only did a sparse examination is very worrisome and unprofessional. Where they just looking for a human test subject?

Mazy has the same aura as Zoe, it seems that hyper intelligent woman are particularly vulnerable ??

40:00 The police brutality stuff gets to me. I was all upset about the police being militarized around 2011. Now the conversation has lost all traction. This is an issue for all Americans not just some.

I don't believe in gender

Normal childhood anxiety being allowed to blossom into unspecified anxiety coupled with normal and expected teenage angst run amok. Unsupervised introspection and unmoored navel gazing lead to delusion and identification with personsn that have no connection in real life to the person identifing with the subject. The felling of superior the the race you pity and have the nerve to belive they need protection is true racism.