Didn't really have as much to do with flatness of plane as it did with the simple idea that for any reasonably athletic person, the effort to swing the arms from the shoulders, and through the arms swing the club from the hands, of course would involve a series of associated supporting motions with the rest of the body. Even a "flatter big-muscle" swing has to have free-swinging arms, or it's not going to be useful at all. John Jacobs explained this probably better than anybody.

It's finding "your" swing.

Hey Flick tell that to Ben Hogan.

Exactly... I’ve played sports my whole life and picked up golf when I was 15. My hips have always been way tooo fast so I’ve been feeling like my arms are the main power source of the swing.

@@chaseturknett I think what so many people miss is that when you intend to move your arms -- in this case, swinging them and the club -- of course you're going to involve the rest of the body. What is it that moves the arms when you do anything else? Depending on what you intend to do, the shoulders and various other musculoskeletal elements are going to make it happen. It's actually hard to pinpoint a power source in a process like this. In a way it's the arms and hands; a biomechanical expert might say it was the legs and body transferring power _through_ the arms; or, you could look at the brain itself as the "power source," since the intent to use the arms to do a certain thing is what causes everything else to happen in a certain way. I think that's what guys like Tony Luczak et al. are really getting at too. Your intent to use the arms to swing is never limited _only_ to the arms. I think it was Mike Malaska who used the analogy (and I don't know if he was the first) of what happens when you want to reach something on a shelf with your hand. You intend to do it with your hand, but it involves walking over to put yourself into position, raising up on your toes if you need to, your shoulder and back muscles engaged to raise your arm, etc. All because of the intent to do a specific thing.

@@emncaity yep. Like I said, it’s all just a feel for me but when looking at a video of myself I see that all body parts are working in unison but it feels like my arms are doing all the work

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This nice old boy is Jim Flick. He was one of the most respected teachers of his time, worked with some of the best in the game in his day.

You’re clueless.

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***** oh if someone dies it means they were right?......the first thing a beginner does is try to hit the ball with arms and hands, this is natural, and makes for an extremely weak and inconsistent swing, sorry he's dead but this is very poor instruction, contrary to just about every, competent teacher i've ver come across.

+fradaja “It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom." ― Mahatma Gandhi Based on your attitude, it's obvious you struggle with golf. Free your mind and you will enjoy more success as Jim Flick has.

lacon007 i'd struggle if i listened to this nonsense,but i swing using hogans teachings, which is a shoulders hips and back swing, the arms are relaxed and passive, as is the wrists and hsnds...........you should try it you may even break 100.

Don't care what you do. Some golfers struggle to break 100, some to break 70. You're likely in the: Shoot 75 on a good day and puff your chest out camp - You might have even moved to FL at 23 and tried to go pro, but after shooting and bunch of 78s and 81s while wasting a bunch of your uncle's money, you decided to become an assistant pro at the dumpy course that you were a member at as a junior (after passing your PAT on the second try).

lacon007 or listened to your man above, and never broke 90.........your move

You have no idea what you are talking about.

@@darrinlygrisse5287 sure I do. Club face needs to be from inside out. It's impossible to not swing across the ball with face when you swing the face upwards instead of back. Swing up and you need to drop the club down and back to get on path and most all end up out to in when they turn hips and shoulder to get back to ball. Singing back GREATLY stops slices.

@@mrpush2532 It isn't a question of up vs back. All good golfers swing their hands/arms up in the backswing. The issue...which Jim Flick was addressing...is whether you have a relatively upright swing, like say Els or a relatively flat swing like Kuchar. The problem with a flat swing is that the club goes up but also further behind you than a more upright swing, so the clubhead has further to go to get back to the ball and more "re-routing" required. When that happens the tendency for many of us is to have the clubhead take a more direct route to the ball, which is over the top and slicing or worse. Or if you take the correct path, the hands outrace the clubhead and the club face is then likely to be open at impact, again leading to slicing. . As Flick says someone with Kuchar's talent can make the adjustments to hit consistently with a flat swing.....the rest of us will have problems and will find a more upright (but not vertical) swing to be much more consistent..

? Hard to decipher. Are you saying Flick is giving bad advice?

Rick Clark one of these guys, you're a moron

stupid fuck. Jim Flick was a legendary instructor. All stupid for you

You are an imbecile