Darren Bent BELIEVES Newcastle Should Be Allowed To Spend "WHAT THEY WANT" Despite FFP! 💥👀

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4 ай бұрын

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@davidknight2104
@davidknight2104 4 ай бұрын
FFP means basically the top 4 pulling the ladders up behind them so no one else can climb
@tomwebster5348
@tomwebster5348 4 ай бұрын
FFP brought in to ‘protect’ clubs was just a guise. The top 6 clubs all have been silly spending for literally decades, and because they’ve already built up revenue streams and their team, continue to far outspend every other club, while forcing all other teams to sell star players - to them.
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 4 ай бұрын
💯
@renderxtravels8464
@renderxtravels8464 4 ай бұрын
People forget that the "big clubs" spent loads for their time before FFP came into place. Often forgotten about in regards to United. They did buy their way through success before Fergie came along.
@sharingiscaring1952
@sharingiscaring1952 4 ай бұрын
Spending is fine if you earned via your football success.
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 4 ай бұрын
Proper big clubs earned their status through sustained success and eras of dominance. Ffp is there to regulate all clubs. United and arsenal are on the ffp watchlist. City and Chelsea have cheated the system and are not organically grown big clubs.
@renderxtravels8464
@renderxtravels8464 4 ай бұрын
@sharingiscaring1952 City earned 700 m last year 😅 also, before FFP club were spending more than what they earned. Are you all stupid?
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 4 ай бұрын
@@renderxtravels8464 you seem rather dismissive of the bigger picture. City spent £400mill in the first three years of their sugar daddy lottery. This was without decent sponsorship, commercial revenue or global fanbase. So when you talk about city making £700mill don't forget the context as to how they financially doped their way to that point.
@chriscummings1279
@chriscummings1279 4 ай бұрын
​@@Surveillance-YsListen the only team who hasn't bought the prem is Leciester, the rest of them all did it 💯 FACTS.
@philip244
@philip244 4 ай бұрын
Why don’t they just buy who they want and deal with ffp later like Man City.
@hardpaper3192
@hardpaper3192 4 ай бұрын
Or just get no repercussions like Man City.
@jamesontanner8769
@jamesontanner8769 4 ай бұрын
@@hardpaper3192 You don't understand how legal systems work, do you? These things take time.
@hardpaper3192
@hardpaper3192 4 ай бұрын
@@jamesontanner8769 seemed to work for Everton but not Man City?
@CalSaurous
@CalSaurous 4 ай бұрын
​@@hardpaper3192cause Man City have 115 charges.
@i.m1981
@i.m1981 4 ай бұрын
Not really, they got 10 points deducted
@johnb5h7hale43
@johnb5h7hale43 4 ай бұрын
FFP was only introduced to keep the 'smaller' clubs back. Same as the 5 subs rule, how many 'smaller' clubs have that many good subs on their bench? And don't even mention VAR.
@mkphrakleio
@mkphrakleio 4 ай бұрын
Without FFP the overwhelming majority of small clubs would still be in the mad because they're not own by oil barons like ManCity, Newcastle etc. The only ones that would be benefitting from FFP not existing would be a very few select clubs with super rich owners. It would actually be much worse cause the difference would be much much bigger and the divide in quality would be immense.
@MatArmstrong330
@MatArmstrong330 4 ай бұрын
I agree with FFP, but agree it doesn't seem to be working correctly. It seems to protect elite teams who had the opportunity to spend before the rules, and hinder other teams growth on and off the pitch since rules introduced. I think if a team has a takeover, and new owners can prove financially they won't go under within a time frame, they should have a season to spend, the window then shuts and ffp applies again, and they also have to provide funds to grassroots sports/much lower leagues. The three o'clock blackout needs to go also, imagine the money smaller teams would make of having more games on TV.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 4 ай бұрын
Clearly Darren here isn't wise how FFP works. He makes Gabby like Albert Einstein of football.
@1986kmcc
@1986kmcc 4 ай бұрын
Best comment so far 😂
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 4 ай бұрын
​@@garywallace5602shock, a fan of a lottery winning club crying😂 You'll take any opportunity to attack anyone who supports a proper big club who earned their status.
@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh
@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh 4 ай бұрын
@@Surveillance-Ys yet had to sell to our pif owners to be in their current status quo 🤣 the irony...
@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh
@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh 4 ай бұрын
shock horror. Another liVARpool fan trying to be funny. Who would of thought laaaa
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 4 ай бұрын
@@garywallace5602 certainly negated any little intelligence you have at all with your comments. But stay content with your delusions whilst the record shows Liverpool as the most successful English club.
@johnmtconnolly
@johnmtconnolly 4 ай бұрын
FFP, or whatever it's called now, was launched to prevent clubs from spending themselves out of business, like Chelsea and Leeds almost did. But it doesn't do that, it just ensures that no clubs can spend the amount that some clubs spent prior to the introduction of FFP, so the "bug" clubs can just stay big. These rules also don't prevent owners from putting their clubs out of business through underspending like Lerner and Xai nearly did at Villa! Villa were days away from being wound up! Villa! That's nuts! Nothing in FFP stopped that from happening. Then we have the very real problem of those "big" clubs, that spent their way to success, voting for these rules, and then breaking them! Stopping clubs below them from making the investments they made to grow. FFP is nonsense! Like all regulations they are designed to protect the incumbent "big" businesses and keep everyone else out.
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 4 ай бұрын
That’ll give the “septic six” something to cry about🤣
@mikeheap7978
@mikeheap7978 4 ай бұрын
FFP should include a restriction on debt, this was part of Platini's original plan until the G14 clubs objected to this. It's not correct that united can file accounts in the Tax Haven of the Cayman Islands and have at least £1Billion in debt. (Who knows the true extent of the debt).
@DB-07
@DB-07 4 ай бұрын
The Glazers should be made to pay the debt in full
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp 4 ай бұрын
@@DB-07why?
@mrstorytale
@mrstorytale 4 ай бұрын
Man Utd make that money easily as a club I’m a Liverpool fan and Man Utd are huge around the world and make tons of money to easily pay off the spending they have but what has put them in huge debt is the interest on the loans the Glazers took on the club to buy it and spend on players with it. The profit Man Utd make goes to paying them dividends and the debt it left in the club. Glazers are Hicks and Gillet copy and paste but got away with it at the time because Man Utd making lots more money then Liverpool from marketing and being best at the time and having bigger stadium and managed to hold on long enough due to success they were having on the field that managed to hold on till hyper inflation in football happened. Where massive TV deals for premier league higher then ever before and by that time they had safety cushion to always hold onto Man Utd for as long as they won’t and use as much debt as feasible to keep the club without banks knocking on the door.
@mikeheap7978
@mikeheap7978 4 ай бұрын
@@Lovelydropp Because that was the original plan for FFP to stop clubs borrowing money and going out of business. G14 clubs objected to this and FFP removed the debt controls and replaced it with limits on owner investment. If you understand FFP it was only brought in to prevent rich owners from challenging the cartels clubs who'd enjoyed no restrictions to build their clubs and brands up through the 80's, 90's and 00's. No other business in the world restricts its owner investing his own money into his own business. Just think about how stupid that concept sounds. I'm actually glad as a Manchester City supporter that these FFP rules exist as they now prevent clubs like Newcastle, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and even United from investing to buy players. Watch how soon these rules are relaxed now that the creators of the FFP are now limited. 😀😃😄😁💙 CTID.
@DarrenMac-yk2gd
@DarrenMac-yk2gd 4 ай бұрын
That’s not United that’s glazers you spent billions and you’re getting hammered every weekend with clown Howe 😌😂
@bleb87
@bleb87 4 ай бұрын
Lol. Yeah... I'm gonna call it. Everton will be the only club ever to be punished for ffp with points deduction moving forward
@i.m1981
@i.m1981 4 ай бұрын
I'm gonna call it, there will be more as that's set a precedent
@Matty-kelly
@Matty-kelly 4 ай бұрын
Nottingham forest next mate
@kishennandha9127
@kishennandha9127 4 ай бұрын
Man utd should have had point deduction
@0xmoo
@0xmoo 4 ай бұрын
Stop crying small club...
@PerfectMask1
@PerfectMask1 4 ай бұрын
I think the punishment Everton have received is a precedent that should be maintained. We will see...
@daz7987
@daz7987 4 ай бұрын
Saying making the gap bigger nobody was saying this years ago when Chelsea and Man City were doing it mind
@jonnya4209
@jonnya4209 4 ай бұрын
I supported a team that was 3rd behind Man United and Arsenal and knew that was as far as it could go. Took Chelsea to shake things up. And that was 20years ago. Guess it was okay when it was Man United and Arsenal
@RBernsCarter
@RBernsCarter 4 ай бұрын
Teams absolutely should be able to spend what they want BUT at the beginning of each season they have to register with the PL and UEFA how much they can afford to spend that season and show proof of funds. Anything over this amount has to have further proof to be approved. This stops clubs going out of business and allows more clubs to compete.
@knott4me561
@knott4me561 4 ай бұрын
That happens in league 1 & 2
@cariad4297
@cariad4297 4 ай бұрын
Without FFP Newcastle will be the biggest club in the world forever ... they are owned by a country that literally has trillions of dollars in the bank 🤯
@st4rskream
@st4rskream 4 ай бұрын
Man City owners are poor compared the PIF that owns Newcastle.@@JordiBoy_
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 4 ай бұрын
Manchester City is owned by a royal family with no investors to worry about. Newcastle is owned by a public investment fund which isn't a play thing - it has to bring value. The fund top dogs will not allow Newcastle to blow billions without seeing that back in value. Newcastle aren't quite as rich as people make out.
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 4 ай бұрын
​@@st4rskreamyet still 2nd richest and cook the books.
@leightonwaugh8713
@leightonwaugh8713 4 ай бұрын
​@@st4rskream very poor
@jonnyhull7860
@jonnyhull7860 4 ай бұрын
So wot its about compettion villa have weathy owners aswell not on ncastle radar but the more teams challenging the better league will be you dont want same top 4 /6 over and over again
@Yourboyalunamda17
@Yourboyalunamda17 4 ай бұрын
Darren bent talking nonsense again
@Joshuaevans147
@Joshuaevans147 4 ай бұрын
What was the song called Darren was singing?
@cryogenixoldskool5803
@cryogenixoldskool5803 4 ай бұрын
Why should Newcastle be allowed to spend what they want regardless of FFP? surly all clubs should be allowed then
@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh
@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh 4 ай бұрын
There on about every club
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 4 ай бұрын
Modern day financial environment needs modern ways to be regulated. Whatever market it represents.
@chuckyjudy
@chuckyjudy 4 ай бұрын
​@dakopper77 how many industries prevent owners from investing in their own company? FFP is a farce and you know it. You support it because you're a Liverpool fan and Liverpool need FFP in place to compete with the richer clubs.
@GamerFlair
@GamerFlair 4 ай бұрын
FFP is a tool to keep the rich clubs rich and stop anyone else getting into the big house. The only way for thier to be a fair system is if there was just a flat cap on how much any team could spent per season. If you can't spend to that cap, fine. If you can, fine. If you make enough to clear that cap on your own great. If you don't, a big investor wants to add money to take you up to that cap, great. That way, any team with backing would be able to match the bigest clubs for spending power, eliminating money from the equation. It will never happen, but its the only system that would ACTUALLY be fair. FFP is designed from the ground up, to be vastly unfair. It was basically hastily made when PSG and City popped up, after Chelsea had exploded onto the scene, to prevent anyone else joining that top table.
@tomwebster5348
@tomwebster5348 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, it also forces teams outside of the top 6 to sell their best players - to who? The top 6 🤦‍♂️ Only thing with your suggestion is you still get teams that have already spent big spending the max’ amount - even if every team below them spent the same they’d still be miles behind, wouldn’t close the gap 🤷‍♂️
@dannyk2376
@dannyk2376 4 ай бұрын
But then where is the meritocracy? City & Chelsea aside those clubs have earned their place at the top table. Those clubs also support the entire pyramid with the amount of money they bring in to the league.
@GamerFlair
@GamerFlair 4 ай бұрын
@@tomwebster5348 Overtime it would close up. There is ulimately not a whole lot you can do about the inherent advantage of getting thier first. The only way is handicapping winners and I do not like they system as it doesn't feel very sporting.
@GamerFlair
@GamerFlair 4 ай бұрын
@@dannyk2376 They earned thier titles and trophys. If they want further title and trophies, they need to continue operating at a high level. They will have as many resources as anyone else to do so. There are no handicaps. Saying a team should be able to easily to win things because they won things before is not meritocracy, its more akin to nepotism.
@tomwebster5348
@tomwebster5348 4 ай бұрын
@@GamerFlair yes and no - the idea of allowing greater spending for a couple of year post-takeover or investment of certain kinds would definitely make a difference in closing the gap and also keep a more balanced landscape imo
@agentancelotti2985
@agentancelotti2985 4 ай бұрын
Why are we talking about a small team in Scotland that’s won one ☝️away game in the premier league all season ffs 🤦‍♂️
@josephhall5136
@josephhall5136 4 ай бұрын
The problem is there isn't much to spend on. Look at Chelsea, they got money..tried going out and buying all the next top talent. Football has nearly ran out of talent that now clubs are paying ridiculous amounts for average players. Football will soon be broken.
@dkj6946
@dkj6946 4 ай бұрын
It is especially unfair to Newcastle where they spent a lot of money on Tonali and it is not even our fault he was suspended for the mistakes he made with Milan. Hence they should allow us to spend and should not factor in the cost we paid for Sandro
@mikoajszczypiorski6102
@mikoajszczypiorski6102 4 ай бұрын
IMHO we have ridiculous situation. For example Newcastle can buy a player for 30M without selling anyone. But if they want to buy Bellingham, KdB or any other top player for 100M, they must sell Longstaff for 25-30M. It doesn't make sense to me.
@muhammedtrawally1798
@muhammedtrawally1798 4 ай бұрын
What about player's signing fee
@SR-kv1ic
@SR-kv1ic 4 ай бұрын
Nonsense. If Newcastle should be able to, so should everyone else.
@247marquis
@247marquis 4 ай бұрын
They were talking about all teams they were just using Newcastle as an example
@barryoconnor4908
@barryoconnor4908 4 ай бұрын
How did work out for Chelsea 🤔🤔🤔
@footballmattersfc4690
@footballmattersfc4690 4 ай бұрын
At some point FFP will be scrapped then Newcastle can properly start there engines.
@jonnya4209
@jonnya4209 4 ай бұрын
Brighton and Palace already can't bridge that gap EVER because of FFP. Without FFP it could be possible with different owners. Like Leicester they have no chance with it. No club not already there has a chance with ffp.
@tomwebster5348
@tomwebster5348 4 ай бұрын
It’s funny because city have already been deemed guilty and fined by UEFA for some of the charges the PL haven’t finished investigating 😂
@BritishRosie-es3zr
@BritishRosie-es3zr 4 ай бұрын
Scrap the idea of it based on sustainability - do it as a hard and fast limit - nobody can spend more than £100m per transfer window and nobody can earn more than £250k a week. Then it's the same for everyone - it's not a level playing field if Luton have £10m spare to spend and Chelsea have £400m, it should be an absolute value. I'd even do something like F1 and give the lower clubs more financial help and less for those at the top, based on the previous year's finishing position.
@broman1429
@broman1429 4 ай бұрын
PL won't allow that since they won't be able to keep hold of super stars cause they demand high wages plus transfer cap PL will lose their financial power in transfer market
@stevenwest0
@stevenwest0 4 ай бұрын
I like Simons approach. Any new owners should be allowed to spend more for the first 3 seasons. Just to bring in any changes to their satisfaction
@David-rh6zg
@David-rh6zg 4 ай бұрын
Even if you operate a deposit scheme these owners are going to want it back if they sold the club to new owners .. what about the players on the clubs books and their wages .. the reason why Chelsea and Newcastle need to sell before they spend is because they are pretty much up to their limit in terms of FFP this season already.. nothing confusing about that
@Thaitanium73
@Thaitanium73 4 ай бұрын
And they could have it back after the new owners make their own deposit.
@Dougie-
@Dougie- 4 ай бұрын
Clubs should be able to spend whatever they want. But introduce salary cap. Every club can use an equal amount on the squad's salary. That would be more fair. If a club hires Mbappe & Haaland they can only afford a Maguire & Evans in the defence.
@levitation25
@levitation25 4 ай бұрын
Financial ... Fair ... Play ... Is it fair? No. Bin it.
@andrewwright4195
@andrewwright4195 4 ай бұрын
Is it fair city and Newcastle and chelsea can spend whatever they want no
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 4 ай бұрын
@@andrewwright4195well clearly Newcastle can’t it’s preventing them from actually buying players to challenge the established elite. They’re even likely to sell a couple major players now to fit in with the restrictions, that doesn’t seem like they can buy who they want to me
@laitmagnani1525
@laitmagnani1525 4 ай бұрын
FFP should be there but as Simon said its needs to have breaks for promoted clubs and new ownership. Plus the process should be speedy for everyone irrespective of whether the club has one charge or 115. Also feel that teams that are abiding by it should be given incentives like increased spending limit etc.
@funsoi563
@funsoi563 4 ай бұрын
Bent wrong. New owner should have 1 year free pass invest in the club and then inline with FFP and that's it. If Newcastle want to do a Chelsea spent 1bn in 1 year and fail there choice.. but fairness is important. And competition is important we can't have all best players in PL makes champions league look uncompetitive if a team in England always win and will justify the European super league . You end up creating the beast you were trying to avoid.
@howells192
@howells192 4 ай бұрын
I'd say keep ffp but not the way it is now, there's got to be some middle ground somewhere
@thomasphilipmeadows4569
@thomasphilipmeadows4569 4 ай бұрын
The problem is that if clubs like Newcastle (to confirm I’m a Newcastle fan) get to spend what they want, it will artificially inflate the market price. Other clubs will have no choice but to spend money they don’t have on players in order to compete. I don’t just mean the lower premier league clubs, I mean further down the pyramid. League 2 and premier league are the same market, just different ends. Newcastle spend what they want, the rest of the pyramid are only forced to follow suit. In my eyes it sucks seeing the gulf that still exists between NUFC and the top clubs, but to win I think we need long term patience. It’s a long journey
@Encorezero
@Encorezero 4 ай бұрын
They've already spend half a billy. How much more? They've irreversibly flopped. 3 to 4 years before they push for top 4 again.
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 4 ай бұрын
Who’s spent half a billion?
@sammybeck4855
@sammybeck4855 4 ай бұрын
They haven't spent half a billion ffs 😂
@smithyuk7312
@smithyuk7312 4 ай бұрын
its around the 250m area since take over i think westham, aston villa, chelsea, man u, man c, arsenal, spurs, liverpool maybe have spent around that and if we take it back a season or 2 for them its defo approaching the billion for some of them
@derekcleary298
@derekcleary298 4 ай бұрын
without ffp u would have clubs like in league 1 and 2 being taken over and going to the top that would destroy football who would watch the football then the clubs at the top have been built up over years and have big fan base and thats how the likes of sky make there money and share it around the league
@michaelmcdougall943
@michaelmcdougall943 4 ай бұрын
So you are telling me brighton can't compete how much have they made in player sales over the last few years
@daniellawson8182
@daniellawson8182 4 ай бұрын
They can absolutely spend what they want but there may be consequences to that spending
@eddieherrera5314
@eddieherrera5314 4 ай бұрын
That’s the only way the PL clubs can compete unfortunately
@FiveFive6ers
@FiveFive6ers 3 ай бұрын
What-aboutery!? That soundbite from Simon Jordan 🤣 I think the word is precedent and it’s a perfectly legal argument when the former has been judged to have done no wrong.
@GeordiejesterTV
@GeordiejesterTV 4 ай бұрын
Every club should, its the owners club not the so called big 6 cry babies
@mic7536
@mic7536 4 ай бұрын
Bent says "worth 40, other club want 50, we aren't just give them 90 million" he's just described man utds transfer policy
@daveking6738
@daveking6738 4 ай бұрын
maybe they should have looked what Newcastles income was before they bought them, if they wanted to spend money they should have bought a club that has a bigger turnover. they got to champions league because other teams had poor seasons and Newcastle team are where they should be until they increase turnover to facilitate more spending.
@nWoWolfpacTV2016
@nWoWolfpacTV2016 4 ай бұрын
Newcastle increased turnover by 40% in 2022. And increased it 39% in 2023. They have revenue of £250 million for 2023 and this doesn't include Champions League money which will be in 2024 accounts. With £250 million in revenue it make Newcastle around the 15th biggest in the world. Newcastle were already around 20th prior to takeover in terms of revenue. PIF picked Newcastle because of it's value and potential. The growth has been fast but their revenue is still around £100 - 300 million less then PL top 6. They could have bought Chelsea for £3 - 4 billion but instead got Newcastle for £300 million which is better investment because they plan to grow club into a £3 -4 billion valuation club. It's a long term project but obviously they would like to do it faster if they could.
@bobp4
@bobp4 4 ай бұрын
Darren Bent's comments are so wrong and niave. I want proper competition in my sport, not bought trophies like Chelsea and Man City for last 15 years just because they have state or billionaire ownership.
@antonyallen8025
@antonyallen8025 4 ай бұрын
I'd keep FFP as a newcastle fan, but amend it so that it let's you artificially increase your turnover by allowing related companies overpay on sponsorship
@smithyuk7312
@smithyuk7312 4 ай бұрын
im a newcastle fan i get what pple are saying on both sides 15 years ago newcastle was a top 6 maybe even 4 side then mike ashley took over we didnt ask for that no one stopped bad ownership the epl didnt stop to think look whats happening to newcastle the club was used for personal gains. If ffp can stop that happening to other clubs im all for it. However now that we have incredibly rich owners (guys be honest alot wish it was your club) the epl has done everything it can to try and hold us back and the top 6 are scared shitless. My opinion any new ownership should be allowed to spend to a point per season lets say double the allowed ffp rule for 3 seasons for what loss is acceptable
@skim7221
@skim7221 4 ай бұрын
Newcastle just needs to stop complaining and think of ways to generate more revenue.
@paulorganisation1
@paulorganisation1 4 ай бұрын
I am speechless.. simply speechless.
@megamooon1
@megamooon1 4 ай бұрын
Dosent sound like it
@paulorganisation1
@paulorganisation1 4 ай бұрын
@@megamooon1 sound?
@paulpotter6191
@paulpotter6191 2 күн бұрын
What if the Arabs had gone for Luton. I think the rich owners should have to put money in a pot for ground development for clubs coming into the EPL and start up academies for school kids not for clubs but somewhere clubs could buy young talent.
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 4 ай бұрын
So Utd can keep spending every season when having 1b debt is fair? Take this bs ffp out of here
@bkkvilla
@bkkvilla 4 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for years Darren Bent.
@peace4peaceful
@peace4peaceful 4 ай бұрын
How is it the Toon get targetted but not Man Utd? Cant run at a loss but can run when in millions of debt. FFP is a joke.
@jesperfuglsang
@jesperfuglsang 4 ай бұрын
Are FFP really protecting the game and the football clubs? Where are the proof of that? It should be called KSQ instead of FFP - Keep the Status Quo. FFP is all about keeping the status quo is terms of who's on top. The big clubs in Europe wants to stay in the top, because that's where the money is - UEFA wants the top top to stay in the top because the big clubs bring in the money. Should FFP be removed so a club like Newcastle could challenge the links of Man City and Chelsea and clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona in Europe, my answer would be YES! FFP are not helping the game or making the game fair and even for everyone.
@peterfenwick5555
@peterfenwick5555 4 ай бұрын
Not sure Benty will be saying that if Arsenal get left behind ias another oil rich country comes in and takes over say a Fulham or a Palace.
@diegolove173
@diegolove173 4 ай бұрын
We had usmanov he was worth more than Abrahamovic but he wasn’t allowed to spend because of FFP
@gavincunningham4598
@gavincunningham4598 4 ай бұрын
One rule for one another for the likes of city and Chelsea and are now reaping the rewards
@TheCrazyBanana.
@TheCrazyBanana. 4 ай бұрын
Liverpool are the protagonist behind FFP. The reason they are scared.
@FiveFive6ers
@FiveFive6ers 3 ай бұрын
And another thing! You’re saying you want to protect the clubs who are knocking on the door of top 4 then as soon as they’ve knocked they can’t stay to protect the next club who wants to knock. Other clubs are allowed to knock but it’s the ‘Big 6’ house so no one else can stay. FFP can FRO
@i.m1981
@i.m1981 4 ай бұрын
Of the other club go to 50mil for a 40mil player, they will go to 50mil. Lol, darren isnt the sharpest is he. If a player is worth 40mil, amd they ask for 50mil. The buyimg club isnt gonna pay 90mil. But the rich clubs do overpay on players. Anthony to man utd actually proves darren completely wrong. Hes worth about 10 to 15 mil maximum. They paid 85 ish.
@juddahjames101
@juddahjames101 4 ай бұрын
They Are Trying To Never End Up With City Charges… They Might Be Exposing How Bad Man City Have Been When It Comes To FFP
@chrismorgan3898
@chrismorgan3898 4 ай бұрын
Yea they let chelsea and city do it
@TAK144
@TAK144 4 ай бұрын
If you wanna spend.. earn it over the years increase your fan base win trophies and then you will be able to spend money simple as. Football is earned on merit… like Real Madrid Manchester United etc have done. Football has existed for a long time these big clubs have earned their way to the top. Clubs like Chelsea Man City have bought their success to speed up the process. Which is not fair… they should fight to earn what they wanna spend. In terms of success.
@PerfectMask1
@PerfectMask1 4 ай бұрын
Trust clubs to be honest about their finances. Man City have been honest and they are the most successful club in the world at the moment.
@girltal.k
@girltal.k 4 ай бұрын
Sad to hear Darren want teams to do that..disgraceful
@kishennandha9127
@kishennandha9127 4 ай бұрын
Why it a disgraceful
@bobp4
@bobp4 4 ай бұрын
If you're going to have this debate (and I think it's a very good topic) at least learn what the rules are. They are straightforward and are absolutely necessary to keep our sport competitive.
@Marais-cu3vo
@Marais-cu3vo 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's very competitive when Real Madrid, Man City, Chelsea and Bayern buy all the best players while others are only allowed to spend peanuts.
@Thaitanium73
@Thaitanium73 4 ай бұрын
Why are people still pretending the rules are to 'protect smaller clubs going out of business'? Everybody knows it's to protect the biggest clubs from 'smaller' clubs who's owners are willing to spend their own money. Stop the charade and just say what it really is.
@ianmacleod3079
@ianmacleod3079 4 ай бұрын
Bent has zero idea how the nfl draft works at all
@GGMU100
@GGMU100 4 ай бұрын
They've spent more than 300m in a few seasons and your saying ffp isn't allowing them to spend 🤣the money they generate as a club is what's stopping them spending how about they should of spent more wisely and not use up the funds they can spend then they won't be in this situation
@HBRYT24
@HBRYT24 4 ай бұрын
We're just trying to justify all the player loans from the Saudi league on the last day of the window. Can't wait me
@filosofastone1442
@filosofastone1442 4 ай бұрын
Goldstein should have invested in an accounting degree
@gman4473
@gman4473 4 ай бұрын
Yeah let newcastle spend what they want offer players 400k per week and effect the whole football pyramid great idea Darren 👍🏼
@mcharrisment4765
@mcharrisment4765 4 ай бұрын
And do a Chelsea - ok 👏👏👍
@tomwebster5348
@tomwebster5348 4 ай бұрын
Wonder if the forest fan still feels the same way… 😅😂
@antonc2180
@antonc2180 4 ай бұрын
So all clubs will need to be owned by nation states then....
@alexandergeorgiev74
@alexandergeorgiev74 4 ай бұрын
Only Everton deal with ffp
@rakimrobinsonMCFC
@rakimrobinsonMCFC 4 ай бұрын
Newcastle just being caught in the trap set for City by the big clubs. It locks out any club from challenging
@peace4peaceful
@peace4peaceful 4 ай бұрын
Chelsea are on their limit. They need money from sales to be able to buy a striker. In terms of profit Gallagher is home grown. So thats 100% profit. If they sell a player they bought. The profit could well be less. Ie player coat a million sell him for 750,000. A 250, 000 profit. Whereas Gallagher would bring in 45 million. So that puts Chelseas book back in the black..far more than a bought player.
@simonoliver8576
@simonoliver8576 4 ай бұрын
he says he doesnt understand how it works yet in the next breath says newcastle should just be allowed to spend what they like 🤣 nice one darren you have actulally made agbonlahor look more intelligent here even he aint said anything that ridiculous its pretty obvious that newcastle are being watched more because of what has happened at other clubs recently whether people ageee with the rules or not 🤔
@kennyw218
@kennyw218 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t want a super league ? They got one it’s called the premier league with the top 6
@craigdoc6656
@craigdoc6656 4 ай бұрын
Clubs aren't stupid........in walks Manchester United with Sancho and Antony on each arm
@craigdoc6656
@craigdoc6656 4 ай бұрын
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g no such thing mate, jog on
@joewilliams9535
@joewilliams9535 4 ай бұрын
Benty you will never be forgiven for the way you walked out of Sunderland in the middle of the night !
@archivalhorror
@archivalhorror 4 ай бұрын
Just buy a shedload of players good enough to outplay the inevitable points deduction. 😂 Everton got deducted 10 measly points and it's had barely any effect. They don't exactly have a squad of world beaters. Like Darren Eales saying that the Everton ruling showed that PSR "had teeth"... aye mate, dentures with old fixadent. Screw it, spend and take the hit. Better than languishing behind the Sinister Six for fear of upsetting old men in suits and the aforementioned clubs they protect.
@Dmanz67
@Dmanz67 4 ай бұрын
I agree. If FFP was about controlling debt I would understand. But FFP is a ban on investment which is pure madness.
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 4 ай бұрын
It's more of a regulatory move than an outright ban.. because that would be strange.
@wilsonathleticscoaching
@wilsonathleticscoaching 4 ай бұрын
It's just so funny, just because Newcastle are caught up in FFP, people want to allow them to spend money above FFP. I'm pretty sure there are other clubs in the PL who would like to spend more money, but can't because of FFP, dont here anyone making arguments for them. It's just so stupid.
@wilsonathleticscoaching
@wilsonathleticscoaching 4 ай бұрын
@user-tn8uu2cu8g and make sure you take your meds before yo u go to bed…….
@kd5973
@kd5973 4 ай бұрын
They’ve spent more than most clubs in the last 2 years. This woe is me act is pathetic. Sportswashing at its finest. They go on about how they don’t want to rush their progress and now are crying cause they have to grow slowly. But they’ll have a big sponsor next season that conveniently is way more than it should be and they’ll be fine. Or a Saudi club will sign who they want and loan them out.
@jimz551
@jimz551 4 ай бұрын
Why keep financial fair play?makes no sense at all...as Darren said money doesn't make success...smart business does...FFP is a load of balls...let them spend and if they go broke so be it...isn't it like saying JD sports can only sell a certain amount so its fair on the other shops... Business is business...you should be able to spend whatever you want...makes no difference at all,..
@blutoonger7929
@blutoonger7929 4 ай бұрын
The Epl is ruining football
@tjc89
@tjc89 4 ай бұрын
The issue s Burnley are never going to get th3 sponsorship and commerical revenue Chelsea will so its not an equal playing field ok any level
@DL-nd9rp
@DL-nd9rp 4 ай бұрын
Darren is such a fool..
@errolmargiela1261
@errolmargiela1261 4 ай бұрын
Any real romance in the game is dead. I would propose two set ups based in polar opposite philosophies. 1) Socialist leagues Each team is allowed to spend $50M a year on transfers. Regardless of revenue, a $50M cap on transfers each season, where you can use up a positive with any value from players transferred out. 2) Hyper Capitalist Owners are required to money in a money fund for the total calculated cost required to run the club administratively for 3 years. This is to protect clubs if the owners decide they have over spent and want to exit. The money is eaten away by the club until new owners are found, after which the money is returned back to the original owners. After they show proof of funds, owners can go crazy and spend as much money as they can.
@chriscummings1279
@chriscummings1279 4 ай бұрын
Ffp scrap it and let newcastle spend huge.
@RaphaelCOYS
@RaphaelCOYS 4 ай бұрын
Ban all nation owned clubs. The game is in jeopardy of becoming a pawn for political sportswashing. Clubs that operate within their means should be able to compete without having to hope a russian/middle-eastern sugar daddy gives them Wonka's golden ticket. There is no fair and level playing field with clubs like Man City, Chelsea and Newcastle!!!
@mikeheap7978
@mikeheap7978 4 ай бұрын
Manchester City are not and have never been state owned. They have 3 owners 10% Chinese, 15% Silverlake an American Owner and 75% Sheik Mansour who is a private entity. The Media like to continually state that Manchester City are state owned. That wouldn't help Manchester City even if it was the case. FFP prevents owners of investing in their own football business. This happens in no other business. What isn't fair is united having £1billion of debt and have accounts in the Cayman Islands.
@reecemesser
@reecemesser 4 ай бұрын
​@@mikeheap7978City are a state owned oil club
@mikeheap7978
@mikeheap7978 4 ай бұрын
@@reecemesser ha ha what does that even mean ? Tell me if that were the case what benefit with FFP restrictions would unlimited wealth have, when owners since 2011 have been restricted from investing in their own football club.....yeah your clueless I thought so 😀😃😄😁💙 CTID.
@stephencooper9935
@stephencooper9935 4 ай бұрын
Come On the toon
@FurioussBear
@FurioussBear 4 ай бұрын
Gay
@shine3d220
@shine3d220 4 ай бұрын
FFP was introduced to protect small clubs😂😂 people are so dumb, FFP is here to protect the big clubs, its a cartel!
@kevinmorgan2052
@kevinmorgan2052 4 ай бұрын
They should have the same max transfer budget and wage budget on every club in the league. Make it big so the premier league can compete on the global stage but not so big so some clubs can't take the piss. It's simple really. Allowing bigger clubs to spend more than smaller clubs is just stupid and not fair. Make owners honour all contracts so clubs aren't stuck with big contracts if they want to sell the club etc. Am I stupid or does that make sense??
@hustler666100
@hustler666100 4 ай бұрын
doesnt work. Its either too low they wont be the dominant league anymore or too high that some clubs will get into trouble with sustainability and go bust
@kevinmorgan2052
@kevinmorgan2052 4 ай бұрын
@@hustler666100 but surely they can just research the global market and make sure they are ahead of any european leagues. obviously ignore saudi league etc. like for me that doesn't know what that would be id say just put a cap of 200 mill a season on transfer budget. And make the wage cap whatever the likes of the top teams pay now in the league. and adjust it every year. just make it so teams cant pay 500 million or 1 billion in a season. there is no need to spend that amount
@hustler666100
@hustler666100 4 ай бұрын
makes the gap even wider. the clubs still have to generate money. you can say 200 mil a season but only the clubs like man city or newcastle will just pump that into a club every year @@kevinmorgan2052
@jameshines4012
@jameshines4012 4 ай бұрын
Why not man city have done it. Spend what you want
@martinkdoorstoperception.1913
@martinkdoorstoperception.1913 4 ай бұрын
there has to be FFP if not city newcastle who are owned by countries not companies 400m a window, its for the good of the game, lets get rid of all laws from society well for the upper class they dont exist anyway but is Darren ok in the head.
@Ian-kv5ds
@Ian-kv5ds 4 ай бұрын
pretty rich coming from a utd fan .... andy
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