Yup, if they pass they don’t get hurt, if they fail they take a wound and a consciousness check. I’ve lost a very good Atlas one game to my pilot tripping his mech up, face planting, falling unconscious and watching the enemy mechs get immobile shots against him. Let’s just say he didn’t survive the turn to get back up

Also, 20 points of damage taken is supposed to be a piloting check to see if you fall down..last session we did a Lance vs Lance, and must have seen 7 or 8 falls

There are *lots* of incorrect rules here... from using the wrong chart for the initial LRM damage, to some questionable to-hit modifiers, to rolling LRM damage groups to SRMs... While I am glad they are putyin Fb out content, I hope they are getting better...

Idk if they changed the rules since the last time i played, but going in the water used to be a death sentence, 1 in 6 chance of a head shot with my PPC, yes sir!

@@LordSathar They did actually change that! It used to be that you were rolling on the punch location table in that scenario, now you're rolling on the full location table but anything that would hit the legs just doesn't do damage.

Even comstar vs other inner sphere is pushing it a bit. Com Guards aren't clan but their hardware is quite a bit better than most.

This was a pretty cool cartoon as a kid it battle tech is the us version of macross which in my opinion was less corny then the japanese version but the singing in it was horrible cringe. It's over 40 years old. Oh wait that's Robotech im thinking of nevermind carry on.

@@locarno24- Comstar vs 3050 Inner Sphere Tech is fine. If it's CS3050 vs IS3025, bad deal for the IS!

not to mention tukayyid lorefight

Think this is a game you could play solo?

Probably biggest error is you can't combine running with backwards movement, and firing lines are decided by the defender.

Yeah Srm damage is always in groups of 2. For LBX autocannons it depends if they are shooting cluster or solid rounds , and each ammo container needs to be marked with what kind of rounds it contains.

You can opt to shoot normal ammo (slugs) with the LB X. But you must choose before the game which ammo you have with you for each ton of ammo the mech has.

Yeah. I've got to read up on that stuff. I hadn't played Battletech for 15+ years prior to this game. I definitely need to go back an re-read some rules.

@@worlds-in-conflict ok man I've been watching this channel since day one, and I love it when your on. You guys are always laughing and having fun. Some of the best games on the channel. Also if there is anyone who needs to pilot the gonzo Axeman, and Hatchetman mechs sir it has to be you. Take care and I can't wait to see the next round.

@@rwillis3054 thanks very much! I would definitely be down for some crazy melee mechs. Might have to look into that...Iron Wind Metals here I come?

For LBX ammo you have to choose between slug ammo or cluster ammo. Each type of ammo takes up 1 ton of weight. For a LBX 10 cluster shot you roll on the LRM 10 missile table which determines how many shots hit. Then you roll a hit location for each point of damage. It’s definitely a crit seeker weapon :).

srms group in 2s

Yeah that’s pretty much all battletech units. In combat they drop the brigade/uniform colours for proper camouflage, however when out of combat/on garrison they stick with parade/brigade colours - note brigade in this case refers to the units that all fall under the same unit designation (I.e. Avalon Hussars, Sword of Light, Lyran Guards, Lyran Regulars, etc) And yeah it’s why Comstar went into Tukiyyad with mostly white mechs as they didn’t have time to camo the entire store of em, so kept what they had white for the most part and focused more on setting the battlefield and training up their pilots - and bribing all their combat forces together on a single planet in the first place cost lots of time too.

You can't

Tex reference, it is noted.

That's why omni mechs exist

Most House Units & Mercenary Units with ties to 'em, have their own unique Mech stables. & their stables largely revolve around their preferred Strategies & Tactics. Meaning they usually only hafta be taught their prospective Houses way of fighting. For example: Free Worlds Leaguers [House Marik] are famed for their Medium Jumping Mechs. Therefore their Mechwarriors need to learn to Pilot Jumping Mediums. Those who can't handle Medium Jumpers or show a better proficiency in other roles &/or proficiencies fill non-standard [to the FWL, of course] Mechs/roles. Of course Marik still has their own unique, non-Medium &/or Jump, Mechs. There's really/combatively very few Mechs that are common to more than 1 House. So all FWL's Mechwarriors need to learn are their stable of Battlemechs & the ubiquitous Mechs. Captured enemy Mechs are hard to maintain. [Machining & engineering & etc. are different from Mech to Mech.] It's easier, far more manageable to strip enemy Mechs or re-fit them to the new Houses specifications. Basically it'd be a logistics nightmare to maintain any kinda meaningful numbers of non-House Mechs. So those Mechs become science projects to find weaknesses, to make a version for the new Houses stable, or become 'OpFor' training Mechs. In the details of loadsa Mechs that were derived from, based on other Mechs. & not just on, like trying to build a better Wasp. But also making this enemy Mech into one that's compatible with their production line. Blaster was here... & apologizes for tmi I'm plus the way back when, many moons ago callback! [I'm just getting back [35yrs~ ago!] into BT, by way of GMG/Ash+Jay's video series. All the awesome awesomeness nostalgia can't be controlled. Hope this helps & doesn't bug!]

Those are the official Catalyst ones so they 'should' be available on their website and anywhere else their stuff is sold but unfortunately due to their popularity they are frequently out of stock. Try backordering one with your FLGS and hopefully they can get you one next time their distributor restocks.

Thanks! I had Staples drymount them on foamcore and laminate them. That way I can dry-erase and re-use them.

@@worlds-in-conflict oooo I've laminated mine. But I'm loving the idea of foamcore laminating. Thanks for the idea!!

From the new KS wave!

Soon. Very soon

They’re out now!

@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Nice!

Well Dang in all my years of playing battletech why didn’t I think of that! Stealing this idea :)

That’s it yeah!

Catalyst will be selling them!

@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames , thanks !!! Great videos!!!

They're available at retail as a set of 4 double-sided paper maps, and will be out soon as 4 separate mats, they're part of the Kickstarter that's being fulfilled at the moment and will be hitting retail sometime after that's complete.

No it's not. I realized a few minutes later that I read (I think) the heat instead of the damage. We changed the damage and put the mech back in the fight but it was a mistake on my part.

@@worlds-in-conflict I noticed that you realised the mistake (and the Mongoose got back up) but you should really have finished firing off your other guns. They had already been declared so you'd have the hear from them anyway. The Mongoose might have stayed down anyway. On the other hand you did make me look for a version of the Zeus that had a 12 damage laser (what are the chances that it was actually a thing?)... so cheers for that.

One of the Tuukayid ones!

This, or Battletech:Destiny by Death From Above Wargaming, which combines the best of Battletech Classic and Alpha Strike.

I think it just lost its head armor and got 1 point of internal damage.

@@KujakuDM nah mongoose took 12 points Zeus was 1 internal

Mechs have 6 points of structure in the head. Still had 5 left.

We literally got the opposite comment last game hahahha

@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames Weird. You can use the Master Unit List to build armies using BV quite fast though. It's so much more balanced that way. Either way, love your BT videos, keep it up!

Comments on the last game where we did exactly that were ‘Battle value is a joke… the only real way to balance the game is tonnage’. Lol I feel like this entire game just comes down to personal preferences because you’re operating from such a huge menu boiled down to like two or three units. I’m always going to have someone tell me their way is the right one I think. That said I much preferred how Bv let me account for pilot skills as well. :) we’ll figure out what we like eventually!

I don't think there is a way to balance battletech. I think tonnage is close enough with lots of external balance ...like 2 IS tons per 1 clan tonnage 1.5 comstar vs IS etc. It is a simpler game from a simpler time. Armor, move, heat efficiency, jump jets, weapon output and then skill rating make it effectively impossible to truly balance. The reason I love this game is it is next to impossible to be ultra competitive with it. Games tell stories and the players have to talk about expectations and scenario focus.

@@danrumley6265 Playing with tonnage to balance lists is like playing 40k Space Marines vs Orks, playing similar model count in both armies. Exaggerated, but maybe you catch my drift. I like using BV, as it takes into account tech levels, pilot skills and so on. Otherwise a 3025 50 ton Mech would still be a 50 ton Mech but with much better tech in 3150...

Yeah it can drag...they did some pieces wrong that would have shortened it...on the flip side they also aren't great at the game yet so weren't maximizing not being hit. I would say adding a couple of more mechs per side would not add much time. The extra punch from combined shots kills stuff pretty fast.