👍.Muy práctico y eficaz.

Sorry buddy, wish you watched this video earlier 👊 thanks for the comment.

thank you sir!

No RLS in this video, only cheap Amazon systems. We like RLS and Levtec, most effective and affordable.

I love tile technology and want to test it all out! What a crazy horrible shower video walk through you just posted! Wowzers!!!

Yeah they keep on coming too, it's really sad though, ppl spending soooooo much money on materials & scrimp on labor. Another bad one coming up in 2 weeks, look for it.

I hear ya, home owners getting screwed is not cool. Looking forward to the new vid in 2 weeks! 👊

Funny how a company selling these products don't know the difference! lol ..Always a pleasure reading your comments love the positivity!

Interesting, I'll have to check that system out!

Thanks! I have 130 video's in total, check them out! 👊

lol

That's a big tile! I would go RLS or LEVTEC. Peygran is good as well 👊

@@LandbergTileTV If I may add my two cents....I have gone to using more clips (spacers) whenever working with larger tiles....sometimes as often as every 8"

Thank you and thanks for watching!

Yes sir, we only use 1/16th inch spacers for all of our grout joints. Smaller the better, less maintenance for the customer and a cleaner look! 👊

@@LandbergTileTV FWIW, the NTCA guidelines are a pretty good resource, and there are definitely times where a larger grout joint size may be appropriate....I certainly agree that smaller is (usually better), but occasionally 3/32" and 1/8" will be a better option. Just had to install some pretty awful 12x24 ungauged slate for one of my builders, had to break out the 1/4" spacers I used on another slate project years ago (in that case the architect actually specified 1/4")

Tried LASH and it is terrible IMO

@@aca31comcastnet Now that I've used it a few times in the past year, I agree with you. It does not work as well as I had hoped.

Spin Doctor is a great system, we don't use them anymore, but used them in the past..

will do!

Thank you sir! Love your channel, and yes, always collapse ridges We never forget to: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aOBliMWIxt2mcY0.html

Landberg Tile TV non tiler here what does collapse the ridges mean

Yes, sometimes the tiles move when you insert the wedge or tighten the spindle cap. You simply push the tiles back together 👊

I love the Progress profiles leveling system, but there is a learning curve and a few tricks. They make a red shim (designed to prevent scratching on marble) that helps reduce the twisting. If doing a large area, I will screw a board down and start building off the board (to help prevent movement). If working in a smaller room, I make my perimeter cuts tight and use wedges along the walls to prevent movement.

Yes, spin doctor works! 👊

You give it standard pressure per clip, if you over squeeze pliers, the clip can break.

The wedges are 1/3 the size. Bigger wedges cover more surface area which is more effective. Also, the pliers are super cheap and feel like they would not last long. 👍

Good for DIY for sure

Usually how the clips break off, some systems break off better than others and the cost of the clips..

With the move towards large format tiles, these systems are being used more and more as the tiles have a more pronounced bow when fired. It also allows you to do things like go 50% offset on large format tiles as they can actually bend porcelain, etc. Open your mind sir.

You can also cut a mitre with a handsaw old school. Doesn't make sense if you are second fixing a house. Embrace improvement.

These systems help keep costs down too. Floating tiles adds the extra cost of thinset, and the time and labor to mix more buckets. Especially a 1/2" notch on a shitty floor. Poppin a tile up to float it, then finding out it wasnt enough and having to pop it up again. Or, now you have too much thinset and have to clean up all the squeeze. Waste of time! Im old school, and im gonna give the T Lock system a try

Just clearing out the thinset. Helps when you break them off.

With non-wet area you need to have a min of 85% tile coverage, he still has plenty here. Wet you need 95% and he's probably still perfectly fine.

He’s taking out just enough to keep thinset from oozing out between the grout lines. Makes grouting 100x easier and still maintains virtually complete coverage once the ridges are collapsed

That's true they're not cheap

Raimondi system is actually cheaper than Paygran

We always use a half inch trowel with a leveling system. 👊

Thanks Josh, appreciate the sub, hope you enjoy the other 130+ videos I have 👊

Yeah, maybe you're right. Next time... 👊

@@LandbergTileTV looks like a waste of time and money.

Should be preping you floor flat to begin with, calling them leveling clips is misleading. Theyre only for lippage tuning not leveling.

Yes of course, this was a simple demonstration for the tile leveling systems. Always collapse your ridges! 👊

@@LandbergTileTV ok cool I wasn't criticizing you just trying to be informed I'm just getting into construction and trying to figure it out

No, I believe RLS is more superior and better than Pegran for all size tiles Thanks for watching! 👊

landberg Tile TV do you still think Raimondi is better than Peygran?

landberg Tile TV what would you recommend? I have Raimondi but what to Try other Ones

They are not that bad at all. The re-designed clips/spacers are flat now... I would recommend them...

kimchee94112 leveling systems😂 if you’re one of those “old dogs don’t learn new tricks” kind of guys.....why are you even watching?

Use a anti lippage system like these.

They did the job & “ … the price was right” … the black ones were smaller clips & wedges & more expensive than QEP ones … the smaller clips & wedges just aren’t as effective as the wider clips & wedges

Yes sir! 👊 It's a big market 👊

Yes, if you trowel the thinset between tile, it HELP with the breakage of the clips/spacers. If you don't, the plastic from the clips will remain in the grout line and you'll have to cut it out. 😎

I assume you mean as spacers, not to address lippage like these systems.

Removing cheap systems can hurt you with time. If the cheap clip/spacers don't break off properly, you then need to cut them out with a utility knife. Not only does this take time, you can easily scratch porcelain, stone or ceramic tile trying to cut that plastic out. I've done it hundreds of times, scratching the tile with my knife cutting plastic out..

easily knock them with a mallet

The clip spacers do not create hollow spots, they are inserted into the mud, you then collapse all ridges to fill voids.

You will feel it in the pliers, after tightening 100 clips you will get the hang of it 👊

Well cause you got experience and a pro. Any advice for a diyer?

tran basically in the angling. The backside of the wedge u push out and the clip holder part shouldn't be squeezed too hard. Slowly do a couple to breaking point and ull see

Peygran all day long! We use that system now.

I don't agree, T Lock is hands down the most expensive leveling system on the market. It's a great system, but more expensive than Pegran.

Am I doing the math wrong? Your link shows this system is $155 for 400 clips. The “similar items” section shows PLS T Lock is $102 for 300 clips. I know the pliers are included on the one in the video, but I’m still not seeing the value compared to T Lock. Maybe I’m missing something.

MoneyManHolmes wedges and clips?

Yes! It would irritate your wrist if you're doing large amounts of square footage. Also, you need to remove the spindle after you break it off..

yes sir!

They worked, but not perfectly, and yes I can give an honest unbiased review. RLS is the same price as Pelgran and not expensive.

Here you go, a video I uploaded last week kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNqAetOKy8nahas.html

Never! This Dewalt is kicking butt and has been mixing mud for over 25 showers now! No problems, only recommendation is to use at least 6amp Flexvolts 👊

I used an 18v dewalt hammer, had the monster battery. Never had an issue myself but still would only do half bags just in case.

No, but bearing will wear off because it isn't designed for side ways movement. But Dewalt also make Flexvolt cordless mixer it would be better.

They definately help making walls and floors flat! You should give it a try👊

I see you prefer custom Building Products Versabond thinset. I swear by this thinset it's what we use in our shop, 25 years never a be claim.

@@DustinHoffmansrq I agree! We have tried so many other types of thinset, but Versabond/LFT is the best consistency for installing, Not too sandy, just the right amount of glue, it works great!

Floors should be flat but not all tile is either

When you want perfect floor not just decent you go for lippage system.

It's not so the tiles are level to the world (like you'd get with a level or transit) they are just flat with each other.

T-800, nothings wrong with a level, in fact for a good tile job you should be using both a bubble and green laser level. The tile leveling systems help prevent lippage, an age old nemesis of many a professional tile installer. Especially when you’re tiling large expanses, where it becomes increasingly difficult to go back and check if a tile(s) is even with it’s next door neighbors.

No one paid me for anything. I purchased both system with my own hard earned money.

do you want to be my camera man? It's just me out here...

Definitely. Level!

Absolutely not a waste of time. Just had my kitchen floor tiled with this size wood looking tile and it is SO UNLEVEL, they have to tear it all up! And start over! 😭😭 Wish THEY would have known about these systems... 😡

I have worked with more than 8 different tile leveling systems and yes, there are good systems and bad systems, but they all help with installing large format tiles. 👊

Negative sir, tile leveling systems give you a much more superior installation with big and long tiles. Don't bash them until you try them. Thanks for watching! 👍

They were originally designed for very large floor tiles, the type you get in big commercial spaces where getting a perfectly even surface, over such a large surface area would be very time consuming or difficult with just a level. They also allow (if im not mistaken) people to be able to walk over them without ruining the floor, which is probably more important on construction sites with numpties that'll walk over them even when barriered off, where you can be certain it's you who'll have to put it right. I'd rather a tiler used this and ensured they gave a perfect finish - not that they aren't capable, but because people can forget things, accidentally nudge tiles out of alignment, be slightly off, than to be old fashioned and over confident, believing they are perfect. I'd rather spend that extra £30 as a client on some plastic clips and ensuring a quality outcome than to risk a bad job for whatever reason, and I'm sure that is more than easily recovered by a skilled trademan's hourly rate who can spend more of his time using his skill in area's it's needed, and not wasting it on constantly checking a bubble on a level.

The leveling systems are pointless if it's not fully buttered underneath you just going to create a void and it's just going to crack

Never! and it's extremely bright back where I record. 👍

Who wants to be "Hollywood"?

Yes, you are right. Strange profile picture BTW John...

i have no control over youtube and youtube ads

matt motta I agree, it’s is effectively pulling the bottom and top planes together and could indeed cause problems. If the spacers were mechanically adhered to the substrate I maybe could see using them with the huge tiles some people seem to like these days. I did nothing but set tile for about five years with my old man and he’d have died laughing if he saw anyone using these. He made sure every surface we ever covered was properly prepped so this kind of thing was never an issue. I’m guessing enough of the old timers have exited the business and there’s enough DIYers out there that this make work for them and the noobs.

There’s a video where someone used pieces of glass in place of tiles and it worked well. In my experience, the thinset needs to be solid enough to not sink when you spread it, yet wet enough to stick to your finger when you touch it. That way it sticks to the tiles and the subfloor when you level them.

Peygran was cheap in the past! Old video..

Vince Black are you still driving a horse and buggy to work? That system has been in use far far longer than automobiles. Do you have electric in your house and indoor plumbing? People got by with candles and outhouses just fine.

No sheet!@@SkyGhost1000

Lol

I am certain there is SOMEONE out there who does.