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The #1 team / Talent drama at Esports World Cup - Summoning Insight S7E24

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MonteCristo and Thorin discuss this Gen.G's lineup potential to be the greatest of all time, Chovy's significant role in his team's success, Twitter drama surrounding talent announcements for the Esports World Cup, results from LCS, LEC, and LPL, the fantastic content being made this split for LCS, and more!
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Summoning Insight is the longest-running, most viewed League of Legends esports podcast in the world. Each week, hosts Christopher "MonteCristo" Mykles and Duncan "Thorin" Shields break down the most exciting matches from LEC, LCS, LCK, and LPL as well as interviewing professional players, coaches, casters, and journalists from around the world.
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This episode was filmed on June 26th, 2024.
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0:00:00 - Intro
0:07:58 - How strong is this Gen.G?
0:21:44 - LCK
0:23:41 - Chovy
0:33:22 - Esports World Cup talent drama
0:51:07 - EWC preview
1:09:59 - Faker + more EWC
1:19:51 - LEC
1:42:22 - LCS content
1:46:06 - LCS
1:59:25 - LPL
2:09:17 - Closing thoughts
2:15:17 - Discord Subscriber questions
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@DurzoHighwind Ай бұрын

I know this is going to be a banger, already liked, shared, told my dog and visited my aunt to tell her about this video

@TheOtaxephon Ай бұрын

50:30 -- "The Saudis ~do~ care about mental health because, technically Monte, you can't have mental health if you don't have a head." Thorin is a national treasure.

@NoradNoxtus Ай бұрын

yamato, thorin and dom on hot take point made for league edition, make it happen 🙏🙏

@Bozothcow Ай бұрын

"Let's call it an invitational." "Who's getting invited?" "Nobody. Also let's make it 66 best of ones and 3 best of fives."

@MiiMiiOwO Ай бұрын

ok but like, thorin is the french fries of league creators. he goes with everyone, he just makes everyone more enjoyable to watch. wouldnt be super interested in watching him solo, but will watch him with basically anyone else, even if i hate them, he just makes it so good i like monte btw

@theabomination33 Ай бұрын

Yamato is hype. having him on lfn more sounds good

@luker.6967 Ай бұрын

He's the goat

@sodaron5828 Ай бұрын

I think Sodaron would be great

@everything-has-a-handle-now Ай бұрын

Thorin-Dom-Yamato for hot take point made would be fire

@Promisesso Ай бұрын

People called JDG meta proof last year but in a actuality there were some noticeable holes (Azir), but looking at this GENG roster they actually are meta proof, the AP jungle meta didn’t come into affect until MSI, they went 17-1 in spring and didn’t drop a series in playoffs in a tank jungle meta. You look at Kiin, arguably the most flexible top of all time, Carries, tanks, AD or AP. Canyon, the best carry JG of all time and has really come into his own on tanks. Chovy, like serious what’s scarier his ASol and Azir or Yone and Corki. Peyz has fathered Guma and Viper in every hyper carry meta to date, and has incredible weak side pocket picks. Lehends is just so incredibly flexible and good at everything, not even Yuumi can stop him because of his Singed

@gangrenousgoblingangrounou7583 Ай бұрын

I think Peyz would get very exposed if meta shifted to stronger AD Carry meta =)

@Promisesso Ай бұрын

@@gangrenousgoblingangrounou7583 I mean just watch the 23 spring and summer finals lol

@ronlanders7354 Ай бұрын

There is no meta proof

@quaremoritor Ай бұрын

@@gangrenousgoblingangrounou7583he was praised during his rookie split especially his zeri

@loke2821 Ай бұрын

Peyz is worst than both Viper and Guma have you watched them. Peyz shines cause he plays in the perfect team. Look at vipers team and T1 do not play for botlane so how can Guma really shine.

@saephon3988 Ай бұрын

45:00 I felt like Monte was directly attacking a lot of my classmates from college here haha. I'm really glad I bounced out of thinking I could do fanart for a living, and did something marketable.

@Wwheeles Ай бұрын

The Anyone's legend logo thing killed me 😂

@szabel. Ай бұрын

10:00 i hope GenG can golden road, also i don't know why NONE of the casters or talent at MSI ever once mentioned Chovy laying the first brick of the golden road with the golden left hand of Knight or some shit, would have been such an epic call.

@iRiDiKi Ай бұрын

I am really tired of all-inclusive tournaments where over half the matches suck. Why can't we just have at least one tournament with the exclusively best teams in the world?

@toxichazmat5785 Ай бұрын

I like the Redwings shoutout from Monte.

@davienssprime123 29 күн бұрын

Faker can win 2 worlds in a row without a super team (these two dont rate the players in that team either) but Chovy winning with a giga super team is suddenly contending to become the GOAT. This is literally the first year after 2020 that he has shown a good performance internationally.

@user-ob8um7fi7m Ай бұрын

THORIN MY NETHERLANDS homiieeeee

@dizz1934 Ай бұрын

the poby replacement thing is so funny yet so *true*

@kenneth_romero Ай бұрын

1:39:15 i was just thinking yamato could do voice of yamato on lfn (after watching best damn league show) and have it have different guest interviews. maybe a monthly or bi weekly show.

@syferhaloed Ай бұрын

45:27 spitting hard facts I never understood why this was the norm especially in a field that’s primary focus is content/entertainment. Very few are proactive on their own time growing their brand and wow crazy they benefit a lot from it (caedral most obvious example)

@teunkanters6350 Ай бұрын

Factor meals is already active in the netherlands!

@chajonson Ай бұрын

Is liquidiv coming back as a sponsor? I tried some and want to buy some to support the show!

@jojomojolazy Ай бұрын

The new thumbnails are sick

@gdkorps94 Ай бұрын

Ayyy more EWC drama!!

@jakegreenstein778 Ай бұрын

2:11:35 The "Rainbow Road" brought to you by the KSA

@kokoukaga9902 Ай бұрын

there's a bit of irony that dgon, someone who host a show in lfn. is taking the saudi bag while the 2 other shows openly shits on saudi. just shows how important/tempting that bag is.

@TheUNDEFINDED Ай бұрын

I dont agree with the take that anyone should take the bag, how can you advocate for that? Sure it makes sense logically, but morally it is reprehensible. Yes it is hard to decline the bag, but so are many decisions in life where it is easier to just do something morally corrupt instead of doing the right thing.

@AndreiHognogi Ай бұрын

25:00 banger glass bead game referrence

@NumberOneBlitz Ай бұрын

Just a request as a Canadian I would like to be able to use your guys coupon codes but they typically don't work in Canada. Not sure if there's a anything you can do on your part.

@blami8 Ай бұрын

Thorin don't know what is happening in France

@samsharpe787 Ай бұрын

Best content in esports.

@alvinohlsson5986 Ай бұрын

Sadly Nisqy can still go international Aware

@jasonbeatty1055 Ай бұрын

1:04:20 sadly TL would need to WIN to do this, which is somehow less likely than the "you get to choose one to set free" pure comedy

@everything-has-a-handle-now Ай бұрын

I really hope alluding to Yamato is for a LoL hot take point made show.

@thekevinc Ай бұрын

wait until Thorin sees who the Lakers drafted lmao

@Chrome413x Ай бұрын

Great episode but 20k is life changing money for me

@Cheezperson Ай бұрын

Nice

@Megaloblocks Ай бұрын

Pls give me a thorin drama night show ppppplls

@thecelestialknights 24 күн бұрын

Faker being bad that whole poby year is so false. He was having an all time best spring split for himself, then in summer he was dealing with carpel tunnel after MSI and was clearly not the same. I don't think you can honestly say that it isnt fucking impressive for T1 to go from barely getting into playoffs, to making it through to the LCK finals, and then winning worlds. That is fucking impressive.

@davienssprime123 Ай бұрын

Hows this roster doing since worlds? Still the second best team in LCK Lost a close 3-2 to China’s best when the mid laner was sprinting it.

@MrDespisedIcon Ай бұрын

All while being DDoS’d non stop for the past 6-8 months and while competing in every single international tournament and being in every LCK final, never placing worse than 3/4 in the international tournaments. Most teams would sell their left nuts for results like this.

@radekhruby142 Ай бұрын

They are dogshit

@davienssprime123 Ай бұрын

@@MrDespisedIcon I get they hate t1 fans but they are going too far the other way. They are just constantly trying to downplay T1 for 2 years when they have been the overall best team on average for the past 2 years. All while GenG assembles the 3rd iteration of their super team. These two say they love players that perform under pressure while being Chovy fanboys when Chovy was the no1 reason for their loss against both BLG series last year and also being GAPPED in 2022 worlds vs DRX. I agree Chovy has been the overall best midlaner for few years but has been choking internationls for the past 2 years. The double standards are unreal with these 2.

@jarjar2364 Ай бұрын

@@davienssprime123 If chovy was the no1 reason they lost to BLG at worlds, Faker is the no1 reason why t1 hasn't won every single split and worlds. Also chovy got gapped in worlds vs DRX but Faker got gapped even harder, rewatch world finals and you will see it was Faker who played worse than Zeus. Also saying 2023 Geng is a superteam is the most deranged thing when by definition you can't be a superteam with an unproven rookie player. Going into every single LCK split for the past 3 years T1 was by the majority the favorite to win, 2023 GenG were expected to be a 4-5th place team just go back and watch the preseason rankings so saying T1 is losing to superteams is just false they lose because Chovy shits on Faker. Also T1 failing to win titles when their fans claim they are the best team in the world with the 5 best players is a disappointment especially when BLG beat them playing the worst they played all year and when they spent by far the most money in the offseason.

@ojfeh Ай бұрын

@@davienssprime123 How has “the best overall team in the last 2 years” lost literally all 4 lck splits in the time span to geng? Specially now that geng are MSI champs I fail to see how anyone could argue that T1 has been better in the last 24 months.

@Dfelder261 Ай бұрын

How's this roster doing... not lower than 3rd place at any event for the last 3 yrs.... we r very spoiled. Yall really make yall whole platform off being haters.

@alentoure Ай бұрын

Been watching LoL since s1 and it breaks my heart to miss some of Chovy at his prime. But the saudi thing is just no.

@luckyiccy5861 Ай бұрын

never understood why public figures cant get a part time job? If your only getting one or two days a week of work casting(or writing or acting to cover another similar industry) then u clearly have free time to work almost full time at a restaurant or department store or gas station etc. i live in the city and pay my bills as an assistant manager at a convience store. not like a i have tons of disposable income but my bills are covered

@szabel. Ай бұрын

42:18 i agree completely the "mental health" point some of the talent tried to make to justify them going was in such bad faith. it is a selfish mental health point because it only regards their own, while disregarding the same sentiment for people in much worse conditions; making it impossible for it to be a true values stance for them and an obvious PR/ latching onto an important topic for sympathy, have some real "mental health/wellness" and RESILIENCE and personal accountability and you won't make these soft ass pleas and concessions or cope in a weird way. ffs.

@SnowLepard92 Ай бұрын

Bruh i wouldnt be wearing that pride shirt in Saudi even my employer told me to 😂

@ftu2021 Ай бұрын

We have gone back to 2013 format

@feature8 Ай бұрын

That canyon hard carry at the MSI finals was insane.

@Drdakr12 Ай бұрын

Thorins unbridled hate for faker

@lulkaku Ай бұрын

after you said TL vs FNC was a matchup I lost the 1% interest I had in this tournament

@izcoatpv Ай бұрын

Yamato on Fourplay would be such great content

@Thundawich Ай бұрын

Can you really call it a hall of fame when there is no hall?

@Raidizzy Ай бұрын

I wanna see viper on this gen g team. or for ruler to come back. That would be a true super team

@vPzWalkerx Ай бұрын

Peyz clears both

@roachdoggjr4648 Ай бұрын

Peyz is a solid secondary carry. Viper would of course be an individual improvement but history has shown us having a hard carry player in every role has been a problem.

@tinecchi3648 Ай бұрын

@@roachdoggjr4648you can make that argument for ruler, but I’m sorry viper plays everything. He has to be the main carry because the rest of hle is not to be trusted. When he won worlds with edg he had flandre and scout who both were playing champs like jayce azir and all taking ressources. So no I completely disagree.

@gameplayerbr4962 Ай бұрын

2:18:42 Biggest dropoffs in the history of LoL? bengi winning Worlds 2016 then immediately getting relegated in China. MaRin winning Worlds 2015 then immediately playing relegations in China. Bang playing all those years on SKT and immediately going 10th on 100T, same for Wolf except he went to TURKEY and couldn't win there. Zeus, Oner, Gumayusi and Keria dominating the LCK then being by far the worst team in the league with Poby. I wonder what all these players (frauds) have in common?

@Leys-cd9un Ай бұрын

I don’t know about bengi but I think Marin bang and wolf had their prime time on T1

@wwjccsd Ай бұрын

Zeus got gapped by kingen because I’m sure in comms it went like him saying “don’t worry about banning aatrox I’ll counter it” into losing game 5 of the worlds to drx so hard to it.

@MrDespisedIcon Ай бұрын

Faker

@CrustyDonutts Ай бұрын

The KSA thing seems a little "pick and choose" with morality considering domestic suffering, GRANTED our federal governments arent investing in esports competition (Military branches do have sponsorships of specific teams).

@Littledunc1 Ай бұрын

Swap Ruler with any chinese ADC and JDG don't come close to a golden road either.

@Kingkevin619 Ай бұрын

Every time you mention a golden road it is less likely to golden road skt was supposed to golden road g2 was supposed to golden jdg was supposed to golden road GENG is supposed to golden road

@Kingkevin619 Ай бұрын

RNG was supposed to golden road

@j4yto Ай бұрын

Eh. People only said T1 should golden road because they won worlds, but forget to mention that was their only win in like 2 years. JDG Probably golden roads it if faker doesn't take out his anger on rulers varus. It's still unlikely GenG golden road, but considering the fact they seem to only be getting better, they have the best player in the world currently and T1/BLG both look worse than they did prior, definitely have a chance. In the end of the day, bringing up the golden road gets clicks

@simone-fz9hl Ай бұрын

Thorins obsession with faker is unreal honestly

@CarlosCarlangas Ай бұрын

I think toxicity is big in league cause they don't actually punish you for it. If I'm spamming the n word I should just get banned from the game. You get muted for like 3 games that's not a punishment.

@ronlanders7354 Ай бұрын

I wouldnt watch the games. Idc if faker is advertising the events.

@welsense_ Ай бұрын

It doesn't matter whether he advertises it or not as long as t1 is playing they can get at least a minimum of 1m view 😂

@MrDespisedIcon Ай бұрын

No one asked

@rayanfahad5673 Ай бұрын

i guess saudis didnt give ur show a money so that's why u are mad about them it's hard to respact our culture and roles even if we pay u. ppl getting greedy this days :/

@chronoshift1423 Ай бұрын

Using the word "culture" to justify human violation is still unethical. Beside if you want them to respect your culture, then you should also accept that Jesus is a God 😂😂😂.

@rayanfahad5673 Ай бұрын

@@chronoshift1423 U are here who attack me not me xd i guess u have allot to learn idc even if u pray to a cow not my business as i said and every country makes vioolation but i guess u are sleeping or playing lol at media

@CountCocofang 28 күн бұрын

Saudi tried to buy into LFN.

@zer0day873 Ай бұрын

today's kanye > "20 years ago kanye". gtfo monte

@roachdoggjr4648 Ай бұрын

Kanye used to have so much personality, soul, and character in his music, which helped balance out his insane ego. Nowadays, especially, it's entirely ego and distasteful antics left and right with no redeeming qualities. Vultures just screams sex and porn addiction, it has some decent sounds sonically, but it's an awful listen from a content standpoint. Not to mention Kanye constantly whoring out his wife publicly, making her walk around practically nude for his own ego, AND the anti semitism. I was never even one of the OG Kanye haters. I enjoyed most projects up to and including Donda. But it's impossible to defend that man these days, especially when his bullshit permeates the music so much.

@kokoukaga9902 Ай бұрын

@@roachdoggjr4648agreed. seems like vultures and everything he did in this recent times killed whatever he was preaching in donda

@sodaron5828 Ай бұрын

LiV golf turned out great and all these already super rich golfers decided to take that Saudi money and forfeit their right on the PGA Tour. Guess what happened fans? Now we have two premiere league of golf that are pushing the limits and raising the level of competition across the board. Instead of JUST ONE league telling what to do with our hard earned money. Just like.... 👊 Turns out blood is on ALL money. Give me the bag. I don't care.

@Jasoncj099 Ай бұрын

My point of vu in the EWC, if you don't get mad at your own government accepting money from Saudi, if you don't get mad at big sporting events, celebrities accepting gift and money from Saudi. Please don't get mad at those orgs and specially those casters who are just trying to make a living.

@Rusty_Justice Ай бұрын

It's not just about taking the money. It's virtue signalling for years on social media and then taking the bag that irks people. By all means take the money just don't piss on my face and call it rain