I made a follow up video where I explain some of the points I've made (and some of the points you've made 😅): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZaKZbKG39fTh3U.html

I've updated to Luminar 4, and I love it. I'm one of those people who wants my photo editing to be as simple as possible. I take a lot of photos, and I just don't have the time or patience to edit those photos.

I downloaded Luminar 4 trial edition. Tried to export single, low-pixel photos and wasted literally hours, with nothing to show for it. My computer specs are not an issue here. - Why would I pay for a non-functional software? Also, any negative feedback seems to be immediately shut down by the company by closing threads with open-ended responses. Most of that feedback seems be over export issues.

I don't get your point, It does what it says it will do. Thank God for luminar 4

I too am absolutely LOVING Luminar 4. It took me, oh, 2 DAYS to get used to it. It has become my main workhorse editor. This vid is just, well, NONSENSE. I can do anything I want in Luminar 4 and just love it. It is doing portraits so wonderfully. YOUR LOSS if you don't upgrade. I am also using Windows and having ZERO problems. This software is doing EVERYTHING they say it does and I have been wonderfully surprised.

I do understand you point unlike most of people who disliked your video. L4 is quite limited with options now, everything is more automated. Sky replacement works sometimes fine(even perfect) , but often gives more headaches. Does it speed up editing proces for mostly non professional use, definitely yes. It is fun to use , but at the same time you limit yourself from not learning far advanced software solutions like Photoshop(my case). Anyway it is just a tool and we should decide what works the best for us. On your remark that is not professional tool, I will agree even now it doesn't support raw files from Z6, Z7 and Z50 (it opens as jpeg). I know there is a workaround, but serious companies add support within months after release of new cameras.

I understand your reasoning for not wanting to upgrade to L4, but that is personal to you and I dont think you should be suggesting that other potential users should not upgrade or at least try the product. My perspective is different to yours. I like L4 because it achieves 2 major objectives for me as a photography hobbyist. It does simplify my post processing and allows me to be creative and try new things without having to become an expert in photoshop, which I do not have the time or inclination to do. It also moves me away from the ridiculous pricing structure that Adobe have created. This software does all that I need it to do and will hopefully serve me well for years to come without the need to spend a fortune. I will admit that I am undecided about sky replacement. The feature is fantastic, but I think I will be using my own skies rather than stock skies so that, at least, I can say say that a finished image is all my own work. I like you, have been using L4 for a few weeks now, and whilst it is not without its faults and glitches, for me at least, it is a far better option than Adobe anything or L3 which I found to be very slow and glitchy!

I've got Luminar 4 and I'm very pleased with it. Love the AI Sky Replacement.

Already bought it. I use Luminar 3 currently, which does a good job, and I will install Luminar 4 to see how it works. If it sucks, then, I will continue to use 3, solely.

Apreciate the honest opinion and insight to how luminar might do things under the hood, I tried it out it has a couple of nice and quick dirty edit tools like a Snapseed has on my iPhone so I agree with you here. Greetings from a fellow software engineer and hobby photographer.

I appreciate the alternative perspective you're bringing to this. It's reaching the point where all the one-click enhancement photo filters, etc. are beginning to look obvious and repetitive, not original. Maybe I'm just old school, but something bugs me about presenting photography which is made up of formulaic, artificial imagery, and passing it off as your own work. The problem is, it never looks as good as carefully crafted photography... it looks generic. I'm interested in LR alternatives, I think I'll rule this one out.

The only downside of Luminar 4 is the speed of the program. For the rest, luminar is more than ok. Everything better than paying money every month to adobe. The Luminar interface is also much better and simpler than Adobe Photoshop. So you say that the luminar interface is too simple and draws too much on an ipad program. Well that they bring it very quickly in the app store to also use it on the ipad, that would be very good.

Since installing Luminar 4, my Luminar 3 will not update. Having said that I like L4 but prefer the L3 interface.

I am having a lot of issues with installing Luminar 4 for my ACER Z3-715 desktop. I have Windows 10 Pro. It wont simply launch. It will load and then nothing will pop up.

Myself like many others have paid for it only not to be able to use it. keeps saying must connect to the internet. even though it is connected. no responce from skylum. notified credit card

I'm on Windows 10 and quite happy with Luminar 4 as a plug-in to ON1 Photo RAW 2022 and Affinity Photo. I tried both Luminar AI and Neo and swiftly returned to 4 since many of the new features are buggy and quite a number of essential features from 4 are now missing, e. g. catalogues, layers and more. What I seriously despise about Skylum is that they're a lying bunch: They promise you to fix the glitches and provide the missing features from the previous version after the launch of the new software, but they never do, instead they dump the software and launch another new version for which they kindly ask you to pay up again. That isn't the way trustworthy people do business, and I'm not going to support such a business attitude with my money.

You are right. For mac users you need 10.14 or newer and a Mac made after 2010. Well..thats me off to Photolemur instead.

I stuck with Luminar 2018 due to not liking Luninar 3's library. I opine Luminar 4 is brilliant compared with 3, having both 1 item changes and choice of folders for libraries; it has amazing AI and watching the Masters including Jim Nix and Anthony Morganti explain, I am thoroughly enjoying it. It is very fast even with several layers, though it probably needs a good fast PC, as on one at least a commentator reported it slow. I use turbo boost and set my GPU RAM to graphics card only. Most seem to find 16gb CPU RAM works well. In my opinion watching tuition videos helps before experimenting.

As someone relatively.new to photography and image editing this tool is amazing as an add in and simplifies a lot of the work flow. I find it sad that because you don't like the changes you are trying to put other potential customers off. Also the comments about Apple, it works well in windows and a lot of the face recognition and AI is multi platform based not just apple as you have stated. I think with the option of the pro settings you get L3 and more, maybe with your.mschine updated it may be quicker the program is slick and speedy for me, literally second to perform any task

Eureka!!! Now maybe I understand why there's some strange things with this (or I simply am not locating the feature(s)). Luminar 4 can handle CR3's but Aurora doesn't seem to be able to, say what?? Masking seems limited in Aurora, perhaps I am just not finding it? Can you make a simple polygon mask? Why would I want to use a paintbrush to mask off a window? I hope this is operator error on my part..... I cannot find any way of importing the actual lens profile for distortion and vignetting. If I'm missing something someone feel free to speak up.

Sorry, but I have a different opinion. For me, I like it better than Lightroom or Capture One because I like fast and easy easy while you can still easily moderate the effects to your taste. Your are right about the misuse of AI terminology by Luminar. Glad you called them on that.

I like the "hmm transition"

This is worrying if true. Having pre purchased I will try it out. Do you think they 3 and 4) will be able to share the library and adjustments etc so you can use both?

my problem is i cant export my photos.pls help me.thanks!

So the complaint is that they incorporated technology developed by other people and figured out a way to make it work together intuitively and sold it as an easy to use effective software for far less than the cost of lightroom? Or is the complaint that they used some marketing buzzwords?

Overall I agree except luminar 3 was completely broken after the last update and I have to change because not even a clean reinstall brought it back to a decent stability. Luminar 3 was also painfully slow, to the point that I questioned it's validity as a professional software. The whole coding was amateurish at best and it's stability on windows terrible. I switched to Luminar 4 and used it a bit except in the recent patch it broke all my catalogues and had to delete it creating a new one. This already happened to me with Luminar 3. On Mac (I use both OS) is slightly more stable but I wouldn't touch it with a 3 feet pole if I had to rely on it for my daily work flow, especially because it is a resource hog compared to Lightroom or even Darktable despite being noticeably slower. I will not upgrade any further even with the next patches for fear of having my set up bricked AGAIN! Skylum team reacts pretty quickly when I asked for help and somehow managed to bring the F***ed up installation somehow "working" again but it never got back to be "reliable". The BIG problem with Skylum is that they wont allow you to reinstall an older version of their software and even downloading the full install program form their site will keep giving you the last (broken) patch... Still looking for a viable Lightroom substitute which does not include a rental licence.

I totally agree with you in the use of the term AI. It's actually ML - Machine Learning and lots of software has it readily available like ElasticSearch etc.

Thanks for this review Max.

Would you be able to explain what the triangle with an exclamation mark in Luminar 4 means. Nearly all the my pictures have a grey triangle with a grey exclamation mark and I can't delete or export them.

“Looks like an iPad app” - subjective? I think you’re too generous. It looks like an online Macromedia Flash player interface. Something was bugging me about Luminar 4, and now I know what it is. I still think it’s a great product for the price for a simple solution, although I’m going to be annoyed that almost everyone has the same sky.

I use 4.1 but cannot upgrade to the successive versions. Anyone having that problem?

All good points but the market is never going to integrate open source tools into a nice packaged interface on their own. As for unlimited effect stacking, not everyone will apply multiple effects unless you are Dmitri Usanin. Lastly, Self-Learning and Adaptive ML is a subset of AI.

I've been a long time Luminar user and L4 is such a disappointment. None of my presets look remotely the same and I have to been unable to recreate them. The new interface is so cluttered and more cumbersome. I really hope they revert back to the workspace interface. It's vastly better.

i absolutely love luminar 4. i hate the fact that adobe sucks people money every month while skylum gives everything close to them for one time purchase. no one literally cares about the photos we take. only a fraction of world respects and buys them. why whould you invest so heavily on those fraction?.

I am one of the Skylum customers that have had their money stolen by Skylum refusing to update Luminar 3 for Big Sur. If I wish to keep Luminar 3 working properly, I am forced to not update my Mac operating system. It would be foolish to purchase future copied of Skylum software, only to have it unsupported.

I use Luminar 4 and absolutely love it!!! I am a windows user, not Mac, and don't know if that presents any problems you might have with Mac. By you saying Luminar 4 is garbage and don't buy it, that is your opinion only, that doesn't mean that the rest of us don't love it. If you like Luminar 3 so much, stay with it. I have no problem with you personally feeling 4 might be garbage to you but when you tell others not to get it without them even trying it themselves, I don't feel that is right. Some people might say Luminar 3 is garbage, after using 4, and they say don't use it? For me, I have yet to come across any program that does everything exactly the way I would like. Some are closer than others but not 100%. I know several people that like only older versions of Photoshop and trash on newer versions because Adobe made some changes and they have never given themselves a chance to learn a new way of doing things. That goes on with many other programs as well. We all need to adjust to the new, some of it being better and some being worse. You get used to doing things one way and when changes come along, they might not be the way I would want it. IMO, I have had new versions of programs, and websites, that I totally disliked at first but gave them a chance eventually with those dislikes going away and leading into likes after all.

OK, don't get your point, get back to photographic plates if it suites you! I like this progress.

This software is a performance disaster, completely unusable if you need to work on more than a handful of images. I can't imagine any professional photographer using this as a viable alternative for processing RAW files from a full session or a wedding.

Why is so slowly L4? 1 image and frozen all time and with LR working1000 images and any problem. If dont search a solution ask to retourn money

Try Darktable it's free, open sourced and plays nicely with Windows.

It's a shame you have issues with Luminar 4. I have a hobby in photography and using Aurora HDR and Luminar with my drone. I'm very happy with my beta copy of Luminar 4 and have posted some photos I processed with the software onto my Google Drive account at drive.google.com/open?id=1d8aOlOpMwN-rjIzu2SMtbHCqffXBnmGv For me using a 2015 MacBook Pro, the software is just as fast as other editing apps out there but I really like the Luminar one the most. Some of the photos I used AI sky replacement and others I just used the other AI tools the software has. Most of the photos are of my family and I.

I’ve already purchased but we can’t run 3 and or 4 on are systems, it has to be one or the other?

By any chance you from Ukraine?

May I asked why you stepped away from Lightroom?

Why do you add such background 'music'? It is very distracting and annoying and purposeless. I think what you are saying is very interesting but I'm unable watch the whole thing.

Well that is just your view point, I love my Luminar 4.3 and your opinión is not welcome....

I would rather pay the money to buy the product than making it myself. I really don't understand the point if this video. It works with windows and mac and u say it's a apple AI system I mean ?

I you are the purest start painting don't do photography at all. This is technically advanced

Sky Replacement and AI baby!$! 🙌🏻⚡️💪🏻💥💻💯🖥👏🏻

Lame thinking. I dropped adobe and moved up from 3 to 18 to 4. It can be simple but it is, if you have a brain, very deep. Also ai is a play on words for the public. Btw if you can not see your adjustment as you make them get glasses.