I said it before and I'll keep saying it; There is nothing as vile or evil as cruelty under the fake guise of kindness.

So glad to see someone with a bigger platform talk about this

PAT!! PLEASE take another look at this case! It’s gotten so crazy! She has missing sisters and some crazy celebrity connections! That Surprise Witness has some A1 content to catch you up!!!! So scary!

Thank you for covering this. Lima has a lot of disturbing ideas about homelessness, addiction & profiting off human trafficking in rehab industry. She has no qualifications in healthcare & jail or enter a conservatism ideas are just awful. You can’t force people to get help

The one hard truth is Lima lied. Her company is sketchy at best. Laughing at Amanda while using AURA program was unprofessional and shows Lima as lacking empathy and understanding of what Amandas emotional state underwent going through HER VR program. Lima has taken every opportunity to sell her products on the back of Amanda. Even Amandas funeral was a sales pitch.

So glad to see a huge channel bringing attention to the way vulnerable people are being treated. Be kind. You never know what someone is going through..

You can't use conversion therapy for drug addiction or schizophrenia. Amanda clearly needed a hospital environment. RIP Amanda 💜

Those costs that rehabilitation programs charge are the exact reason why people don’t get help. I’m in recovery, I know how much my mom paid. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Believe me when I say that the government wants drugs in this country they make money when your on them and they make money when you stop. It’s madness

If I’m not mistaken, Lima is currently suing or trying to sue this young lady who is a KZfaqr for bringing this subject to light.

My girlfriend went to desert hope, the same treatment program as Amanda. 2 people tried to kill themselves, people were using drugs in the rehab, 2 people overdosed, 3 people had seizures from mismanagement of medication in detox, a male patient walked into her room repeatedly over the span of a week when she was sleeping and staff didn’t address the issue appropriately, and she didn’t talk to a therapist for 1/3 of the time she was there. She was only there for 25 days.

Well done for being Amanda's voice...and for calling out the deceptions, the truth registers on the heart!😊 RIP Amanda🙏

It’s legit sad they exploited Amanda and tried to force her into a conservatorship or jail. And who would put a person who obviously need help in some virtual reality crap to trigger her. Just sad rip to Amanda

Holy shit, I'm a Substance Use Disorder Certified Counselor, and when you showed that rehab in Claremont CA, I recognized it instantly. I used to work there. Trust me that place is sketchy. I only worked there for 3 1/2 weeks before quitting because the owner kept trying to get me do unethical things.

Her story bothered me. It was really difficult to watch. I felt so bad for her and watching the progression of her illness. It’s really sick to prey on vulnerable people. It seems like that’s what the company is doing. Thank you for covering this.

i’m so confused on why she got legal guardianship over amanda that definitely should’ve been given to her father not someone who is experimenting and making hundreds of thousands of dollars off addicts. tf

Why is Bam on the VR billboard in her headset and now stuck to this same program months later… I can’t find ANY comments about how weird that is it’s bothering the hell out of me lol.

I watched her story of amanda on the white underbelly. She made me cry a couple times , and when she died it was heart breaking. Lima has some Elizabeth Holmes vibes about her. There is just something so off about her. When amanda started to do updates she seemed off too

Thank you for using your platform to tell Amanda's story. Lima has been bullying another youtuber with defamation lawsuits - but facts ain't defamation. 💕🤷‍♀️

I've been in recovery for almost 3 years. As someone who went from a homeless heroin addict running the streets all the time to where I am now I've gained 250 pounds. The weight gain is a combination of things but the 2 main factors is going from not sleeping and being on the go all the time to sitting still most of the time. The second is because of the depression meds. And I can nit stress this enough but you need some kind of medication to offset the changes you've made to your brain chemistry.

I followed Amanda’s story and I remember thinking it felt off how the dad seemed less invested in Amanda’s recovery than Lima. Also felt unnatural that Larry would appear in an interview after Amanda’s death sitting alongside the person under whose care his child died.

This is so scary, I hate thinking there are people out there that could be okay hurting others but I know there are. I'm at least glad the info is getting spread and people can potentially be better protected

12:29 "You've transformed Amanda" "Because my team is good at what we do" Addicts do it. They do the work. Her reply is a thing a person with no understanding of therapeutic work would say. To be honest, I'm disappointed in SWU. I don't think he had bad intentions but to promote a therapy this sketchy and the lady behind it as a savior, it's irresponsible. It's a very suspicious story. Poor woman, may she rest in peace. P.S. I love your channel. You've developed into such a fantastic investigating youtuber. This video might be taken down or they gonna fight you yet you made this is.

Your videos are extremely well produced, like another commenter mentioned it is great to see a channel like yours covering this!

one of your best videos Patrick!! heart breaking what amanda went through

Maybe I'm naive but I feel like Mark's heart started off in the right place, I've been watching his interviews for yearsss because he really gets the raw perspective of people who are living lives that many have no clue about... I think Lima swindled him into thinking she was some innovator of rehabilitation and he thought bringing his audience to her would be a good move. Horrible. RIP Amanda... if he doesn't denounce his choice to work with and support Lima- his career will soon be over. Homeless, mentally ill, and drug addicted people are people.

Glad to see you covering this. Hopefully Lima doesn’t sick her attorneys after you like they did to BJ.

Dude, you make really good mini documentaries, I love them

I love how she said the cost of “real treatment”, insinuating that her treatment is not. 💁🏻‍♀️🤣

my biggest issue is that of all the addicts featured on Soft White Underbelly - Aura targeted and zeroed in on Amanda. The most VULNERABLE person Mark has interviewed (no close family relationships, mental health issues like schizophrenia, crack psychosis, physical head trauma) Out of other addicts who would have volunteered willingly.

This lady's company is a great example of the sketchy shit that drug rehabilitation services do. This is pretty common in the sense that people are billed as much and as often as possible while the actual treatment is inadequate or even harmful. It doesn't matter if her death was an accident or not, it for sure is negligence at the least. The last theory makes the most sense. All 3 are complicit.

How has this woman not been investigated

Watch alot of ur vids here and their, just subscribed and now I'm at work feindin out on ur content...great work..ur hole approach is real...love that

Protect Patrick and the whistle-blower lawyer at all costs. This aura business seems extremely shady and the dark theory seems like such a dangerous theory. Makes me wonder how much influence the larger youtube channels really have

Amanda was literally the only interview in which I cried from watching. Lima needs to be held accountable.

How did I not see this before? 😮 Thank you to talk about this case it’s so insane that she’s there still doing it…!

Thank you for talking Bout this!!!!!

Recently graduated medical doctor here, just thought I'd shed some light on some of the drugs that Amanda was prescribed so people have a better idea of what was in her system at the time of her death: Hydralazine: Used for treatment of high blood pressure, but only in certain cases (such as when treatment with other more common drugs fails) as it ironically causes other cardiac effects that may be dangerous (including arrhythmias) due to sympathetic stimulation. Losartan: Commonly prescribed medication for high blood pressure, usually well tolerated by most patients. Gabapentin: It's commonly given for the treatment of seizures, but is also used in many cases of neuropathy (nerve damage-related pain/numbness) and very rarely for bipolar/anxiety disorders. So this suggests that she may have indeed had an undocumented seizure disorder that would usually present during the withdrawal phase after she got admitted into the treatment facility, or they might have prescribed it to her for peripheral neuropathy that is fairly common with usage of certain illicit drugs like meth. Usually well-tolerated as well with minimal side effects. Clonidine: It's rarely used for the treatment of high blood pressure (usually only in cases where other more common and well-tolerated drugs don't work), but more often given to patients suffering a drug addiction. It has a mild sedating effect, so combined with the heart rate-slowing effect it primarily has, it can help patients manage withdrawal symptoms which usually are associated with a high heart rate and restlessness, anxiety and insomnia. Kind of a one drug fits all situation for withdrawal symptoms specifically, but still usually avoided because of common side effects like dizziness and headaches. Risperidone: Very commonly prescribed medication for the treatment of schizophrenia. Weight gain is a very common side effect of the drug (likely one of the major factors for her rapid weight gain) along with some others like sleepiness, dizziness and movement problems. But for most schizophrenia patients, these usually are a small price to pay for a massive relief in schizophrenic symptoms, many patients I've seen have been on this drug for decades and had good results. Imo, it seems like traditional treatment with more common and well-tolerated drugs for her high blood pressure may not have worked, hence the use of some of these less common drugs for the same purpose. With her history (especially with regards to cocaine, a known cardiotoxic drug), it is possible that her heart had already been severaly damaged and traditional treatment with common heart drugs was tried but did not work. Risperidone and Gabapentin are prescribed together occasionally and usually don't produce any dangerous cross-reactions. But with 3 different drugs producing different effects on the heart with the purpose of lowering blood pressure, it is possible that this may have been what led to an arrhythmia and her death. It's difficult because there really isn't any other way to get the blood pressure down sometimes, I haven't personally seen all these drugs used in combination before during my time as a student, but it kinda does end up with these cocktails of drugs when there is no safer alternative that works, with this list of drugs it really does seem like she had high and treatment-resistant blood pressure which would have killed her eventually without medication to bring it down. These are just some of the thoughts I have and by no means am I saying this is exactly what's happened, just theorizing based on what I know. Tough situation all around and I hope she passed knowing she'd worked hard for herself and gotten better, and was proud of what she'd accomplished. RIP Amanda.

She’s suing BJ from That Surprise Witness for exposing her “ways”. Great video…and glad you’re shedding light. Justice for Amanda Rabb!

On a smaller note- DESERT DOPE treatment centers is one I am all too familiar with and the company that owns it American addiction centers YOU SHOULD COVER the CEO who buys up smaller treatment centers to implement his damaging program that has resulted in numerous deaths of clients he claimed to be able to treat only to falter and let them die in his care due to negligence. PLEASE 🙏

Thank you so much for this story.

Lima needs to be stopped. She literally said we shouldn’t let ppl make their own choices. That’s a dangerous line to cross, they’ll come for anyone who even drinks or smokes weed if Lima has her own way

Wow. I can’t believe Lima lied just to protect her reputation. Thank you Pat for covering this story, never would’ve heard about it if you had not brought it to our attention.

New subscriber would love to see the newest updates on how this story unfolded from your perspective

This is my new favorite channel! I just subscribed keep up the great work keeping us all informed

as an addict whose been through a ton of treatment centers all that makes me realize is that the average person has no idea how common this type of thing is. The rehab industry is horrifically predatory and I know many people who have died as. A direct effect of that.

After 20 years of addiction I can say with absolute certainty that treatment does not work when it’s forced upon someone. I’ve seen “cutting edge” gimmicks come and go - Aura seems like one of them. 3/5 meds she had on board are standard in most treatment facilities.

Finally this is coming to light. This rabbit hole goes so deep and BJ investigates is honestly amazing at finding those paper trails other people look over

Just found your channel. Tomorrow is my Friday, I know what I'm binging after work!!!

Thank you for covering this. One of my parents was homeless due to mental illness and substance abuse most of my life. At some point they suffer a brain injury. (Really isn’t uncommon for that to happen) It was difficult because they were an adult and I legally couldn’t force them to get help. So I understand why things like conservatorships are needed. But due to being disabled myself, a large part of my life was spent with others having legal control over me. It can be like a nightmare because when you tell people you feel like people are abusing their power, it’s dismissed.

On the subject of Amanda's weight: weight gain is the most common side effect of most anti-psychotics. Risperidol, one of the medications she was taking in this rehab, is particularly notorious for causing rapid weight gain. I hope she gets justice, and that whatever happened to her is exposed and publicized so that it won't ever happen again.

I'm so glad you talked about this. I know it's been a year but I hope other bigger creators will also discuss it. Amanda did not deserve this.

Great video dude

I gained like 65lbs in a 6 month treatment center. They had a mandatory exercise hour and I STILL gained. Your metabolism is wrecked after long term substance abuse, it's in starvation mode. Almost every woman I was with gained a crazy amount of weight.

As a huge jackass fan, Bam being on Limas care concerns me. I still hope Bam and recover like Steve-O. Dunn’s death might have been shocking and sad, but if Bam dies from Lima then something fishy is going on. It would also be sad to see drugs kill off a icon of millions of kids childhoods and a proud Father of a young son

Im so glad to see people talking about this, esp those with bigger platforms. Amanda deserves justice.

You need to look again at this case!!

I'm so glad someone else is talking about this! I've only ever seen BJ from the KZfaq channel "That Surprise Witness TV" talk about this sad situation. ♥️

I wish you had included the clips of Amanda talking about them "putting her in video games" she seemed scared and disoriented, white in the middle of her socalled recovery. That's an important piece of the puzzle. Still, I'm glad to see more channels picking up this story.

Your voice is AMAZING!!! LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BAM VIDEO!!!

BJ Investigates/That Surprise Witness did, and is still doing, some seriously deep diving into this. She puts out new content about Lima and Aura and their shady dealings all the time. I've heard they are even trying to silence her by suing her.

Regardless of what truly happened ,it is werid and trippy to me that a rehab facility allowed an addict to be treated by someone who isn't formally trained with certification in mental health & addiction . Like, anyone with a startup i guess can just play with other people's wellbeing/recovery since i'm guessing there are no laws or regulations in place to avoid this sort of experimentation.

I used to watch every video from Soft White Underbelly until I came across Amanda’s story from BJ Investigates (the part of her story not told on Mark’s channel). Makes me feel sick and breaks my heart. Something has to happen so this doesn’t happen to anyone else. People shouldn’t be treated like rats. Drug addicts and homeless people are still people that deserve love and to not be experimented on.

I'm so glad I came across this video. I was definitely watching Amanda's vids and was so happy for her. Then to hear she passed. Thank you so much for bringing The Truth to Light on what really happened 😞 they will be held accountable by The Most High. Believe that

Great breakdown.

Really sticky story since there's so much speculation. The 3 theory conclusion was a great way to report on this without spreading misinformation. Well done.

I went to college with this girl, she was such a sweetheart crazy to even think that she ended up like this.

Thank you for talking about Amanda and telling her story❤️🙏 I don’t think any of the people in her life really cared, they were using her…she would’ve been safer on SR, and possibly, probably, still alive😢 Rest In Peace Amanda, you did prove them all wrong!

this story is nuts,, I've been trying to tell people about it but i forgot the names and whatnot. thanks

Watch out now, Limas gonna try to sue you to shut you up just like she’s doing to BJ. 😂 No but really, THANK YOU.. for covering this case & shedding even more light to it. What happened to Amanda was DISGUSTING & everyone involved should face legal repercussions. Including her father whom Amanda herself told that he molested her!

As a recovering addict, I watch SWU quite a bit and I don't think Mark is a bad person, but he is naive. I do believe Amanda wanted to get clean but you are right...Lima lied. Also, VR therapy....idk enough about it, but that seems so weird to me. Regarding weight gain, it is very common for addicts when they get sober...I know I did. This is just such a sad story all around.

New member~~ I really hope you report more on this person and her ‘business’ ~ this absolutely disgusts me and needs to be stopped ❤

Thank you for digging in to this. You are the bestest! Patrick cc

First and for most the entitled way that she said she chose Amanda makes My skin crawl. This woman treated Amanda like her project and property. And when a guilty person is interrogated about their actions towards another person The guilty person tries to minimalize the situation as much as possible. Her saying that they thought Amanda was just lying in her room peacefully sleeping raises big red flags for me. Why do you have to add the fact that she was peacefully sleeping she’s a grown woman not a toddler or an old person why does that part matter she’s trying to soften the situation and minimalize her in and the staffs involvement they knew that something was wrong with her and they did not intervene. Because either they cause a situation or they just didn’t know how to react to this situation and did not want to look guilty either way there is a cover-up here and her and that facility need to be completely and totally investigated.

I’m glad you did this, even the smaller KZfaqrs trying to expose her are getting sued by her, we need more and louder voices, thank you!

It’s crazy, I haven’t seen anyone talk about this, and it’s a year later

love your videos

Holy cow. I watched all of Amanda’s videos and was so sad when she passed. I did not know about this controversy. This is an eye opening video. Thank you!

For those curious to know about the medication: Hydralazine (hypertension medication), Losartan (hypertension), Gabapentin (for muscle pain/seizure medication), clonidine (sedative/hypertension), risperidone (antipsychotic/bi-polar disorder), caffeine (stimulant, I do not know if it was caffeinated beverages or if she was taking caffeine pills), cotiinine (many reasons but for her, likely for depression/PTSD/schizophrenia), barbiturates (sedative/epilepsy), medicinal cannabinoids (spasticity/neuropathic pain). So the first five prescribed in the evening makes sense given her hypertension. It is not uncommon to be prescribed more than one at a time (source: personal experience). Interesting that she was on two treatments where the primary purpose is to treat epilepsy. While she might not have been having grand mal seizures, she could have developed petite mal seizures or, what they mistakenly thought was a petite seizure when it could have been a side effect of one of the medications mistakenly diagnosed. I highly doubt that her death was malicious in nature. If I had to take a guess I think that rapid weight gain could have been a side effect of the medications/over-eating as a substitute for not smoking crack. This would have led to hypertension (which she could have had prior to the weight gain (plus extended crack aiding to hypertension)) and, while they tried to treat it as best as they could to bring it down the drug use plus the weight gain could have led to cardiac arrest. It doesn’t seem like a sick experiment, it comes across as some competency issues (they should have limited her caloric intake/placed her on a low sodium diet) alongside her body having sustained too much damage prior to treatment. It’s my opinion but it’s based on having been prescribed all of those throughout my life (minus the barbiturates) and suffering from similar issues she did.

I love the disclaimer it’s very clear. So I know it’s an essay from ur collected info

For a ''just a guy in my room KZfaqr'' you sure have investivative journalism a-plenty...top drawer!!

Two things I wish were also mentioned in this video is that the speech at the funeral was not heartfelt. It was a commercial for aura as well. Also that Lima stated that because of a detail in the autopsy it could have been ruled as homicide and she then said “so that was a big wake up call for us” 🧐

Also, it was such a plot twist to see Amanda speaking on her experiences during treatment in a way that most people what view as “crazy talk”, only to find out that she was providing details on Aura’s VR tactics. She was talking about being “videogamed” and “a bunch of different me’s running around”, expressing that she didn’t like it and wanted to stop. I don’t know what they do at rehab facilities, but I know that patients aren’t supposed to be exposed to their vices, and so Lima’s technology may have been opposite of that, providing triggers for patients.

I watched her on Soft White Underbelly. I was more concerned bout her than any othr I've seen on tht program. I genuinely didn't realize all those videos were even her. Ty evr so vry kindly for this. 🙏🤟🇺🇲Iowa

Wow, I didn't know anything about this woman (Lima). I still don't get why Lima is qualified to do this. Lima's company seems to me like they are working on how to control someone not actually help them. This is giving me some MK Ultra vibes. Great video brotha, thank you!

Has Mark spoken about this at all? Like why didn’t he look in “Aura” just a bit? Anyway, thank you for covering this, I was having a hard time understanding what ultimately happened to her. Rip Amanda.

I've been subbed to Mark's channel since ab a month after he created it. Lima always gave me weird vibes and she seemed to embellish the praise and attention she got from appearing on SWU instead of helping people. Thank you for bringing attention to this bc even though Mark's channel is huge most people watch Lima not knowing she is a fraud and narcissist.

First heard about this case from BJ Investigates 💕💗 so glad y’all are getting the awareness out ‼️

Really like your channel…just found you…. Yay for me!!

Somebody, a very small platform on KZfaq, made a deep video about this and now lima is suing her. Please go check it out. i’m so happy that you as a very informative you tuber posted this. Needs way more attention.

I've been watching White Underbelly for years, and I followed Amandas story from the first video. I kept up with her like she was my own blood, because I truly became interested in her story and to see if she saved it. Was devastated to hear that she lost her battle.............. then this showed up today. Wow.... Speechless doesnt even begin to explain. Patrick quickly is becoming my favorite KZfaqr.

Holy shit. Thank you for doing this video. Wow.

This case has gotten so much crazier and bigger. Please see the work of BJ investigates and her other channels. Lima has two missing twin sisters who are apparently being tortured through Lima’s technology and are in some kind of conservatorship being shuffled through the rehab systems.

Being an addict and going to rehab I’ve never ever seen anything like this, not even the super expensive private ones used things like this nor did they include “exposure therapy”.... being sober, you’re already in a super vulnerable exposed state. The last thing you wanna do is start exposing an addict to drugs or whatever it is while you’re trying to get clean. That’s setting them up for failure and anyone whose been through it will tell you that’s a bad idea. Something is really fishy...

Just wanted to bring more awareness by encouraging everyone to pay close attention to, especially elite or perceived authorities, words, when discussing issues like this and particularly, homelessness. Which was already a growing problem, BEFORE the craziness of 2020. Lima said "people should not be allowed to be homeless". Sounds nice enough, especially to those on the more naive side. But there is increasing legislation being passed most recently in TN. Where they are actually criminalizing homelessness. You can tell a lot about a nation by how they treat their elderly and their vulnerable. Criminalizing this, is absolutely atrocious!! But this is also coming from a country with THEE highest prison population. Majority of them for committing non violent offenses, like drugs. Who ALSO gives massive draconian sentences to drug addicts, while crimes like SA.. or peedo/philia, barely receive, months long sentences.

My sister has been an Addict since I was 9, I am now 18. People suffering with addiction wont get better just because of the sheer will of someone else’s love towards them. Giving them clothes, money, rehab, ect, normally fuels the hunger to rebel. It got to the point, that my sister ended up fully turning my moms side of the family, against my dads. Unconditional love wont help someone’s addiction, it is their own choice. When they want to change, they will- sometimes the change is too late, but we can’t change that. My sister has lost almost everything, a home, to my mother adopting my sisters two daughters, and her family. We spent many years trying to help, and unfortunately I was involved with most. They become more angry, and more out of control through their binge. They say things they know will hurt you, but you never know how much is happening in their mind at the moment. I pray that anyone with family that is addicted, or people struggling with addiction are able to turn a new leaf. ❤

Here from bj channel, I'm glad ppl are getting the word out on her

I've watched soft under belly for years. This is a great video, please do more to expose the corruption of all these "businesses" that claim to want to help these people. In my experience these clinics don't care about you, they just want you in the program for as long as they can keep you while they take in HUGE amounts of insurance money because addiction falls under a chronic disease. Alot of these people have no say in their treatment whatsoever. Sad shit. Hopefully it's not too late for Bam.

I'm an RN with years of experience administering all of the prescription drugs found in Amanda's system. The majority of them are run of the mill anti-hypertensive (high blood pressure) drugs and would be totally expected given Amanda's medical history. The gabapentin is a common medication often used for neuropathy - again, not surprising considering her background. And lastly, the Risperidone is a common antipsychotic med used for schizophrenia and more that 20% of people taking it experience significant weight gain. I am not saying that there isn't something dark or sinister going on, but those drugs alone don't indicate anything. However, like Patrick said, omitting the mention of them in Lima's response was suspicious. And all the vague details around Lima's 'cutting edge' tech was super odd. Also the video of Amanda using the VR was super unprofessional at best and a violation of federal HIPPA regs at worst. Seems like a money hungry entrepreneur trying to protect her business and reputation to me. I hesitate to call abuse or malpractice though.

For the algorithm Thanks for the content

Sad, Dark Sinister....damn 💔 Rip amanda