The Durango and Silverton Roundhouse - Rebuilding Steam Locomotive 476

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Toy Man Television

Toy Man Television

6 жыл бұрын

The Durango and Silverton narrow gauge railroad has an amazing roundhouse where they rebuild their fleet of steam locomotives.
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We also take a look at how the wheel trucks are rebuilt in the machine shop and car shop. The wheel trucks under the cars are heavy and huge and require constant maintenance.
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The roundhouse was rebuilt after it burned down in 1987, and the
"new" roundhouse is a state of the art locomotive repair shop where the railroads fleet of over 10 locomotives, half of which are operating and used daily, are maintained and rebuilt.
Their current project is rebuilding locomotive #476, a K-28 type locomotive that has been sidetracked for 20 years.
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From the web:
The three locos which remained with the D&RGW, numbers 473, 476 and 478 were assigned to the Durango - Silverton tourist trains from the 1950s onwards. The Durango & Silverton inherited these when it took over the Silverton Branch in 1981.Numbers 473 and 478 are operational, while 476 currently being restored to operating condition.
Due to their smaller size, these engines are often used by the Durango & Silverton for shorter trains, usually the first or last on the schedule, and also for helper service or sectioned trains. Despite being slightly smaller, a little older and less powerful than the K-36s, the engine crews tend to favor a trip on these engines because the design ALCO used was superior in balance and servicing. Firing can be tricky when the engine is working hard, as the clamshell-style firedoors tend to pull into the backhead of the boiler due to the draft, and if any flues in the boiler are leaking, the loss of draft on the fire is much harder to work around than on the K-36 locomotives. Firing while the engine is working hard is done with a large "heel" pattern, generally with as little coal on the flue sheet as possible, and gradually sloping the fire bed towards the door sheet to the height or higher than the firedoors. This results in the draft being forced through the fire bed in the thinner areas towards the flue sheet, which usually is hindered by the lack of draft between the grates and the arch brick. New firemen sometimes have a hard time learning this because there are fewer training hours available on the K-28 class locomotives compared to the railroad's usual K-36 workhorses which have a larger firebox and are more forgiving of poor technique.
These locomotives are popular subjects for model railroaders, and high quality scale models in HOn3 and On3 scales have been produced by several manufacturers since the 1950s.

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@nathancorcoran5347
@nathancorcoran5347 4 жыл бұрын
The Durango & Silverton is a fun train ride. 476 has did a good job on the D&S.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Yup. Them K28s are perfect for this railroad!
@rarlallen
@rarlallen 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the memories! Just watched your video for the first time! I lived in Durango from 1980 to 1984. Graduated high school there! Looking back, probably the best 4 years of my life. I loved the train! the sound of that steam whistle, the smell of burnt coal, heck, I even loved the fact that, living in Durango, at times, you had to wipe the black cinders off your car! Great times!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын
We love everything about Durango except the winters.
@Emerson278
@Emerson278 6 жыл бұрын
My family took this train back in the 60s. Went up to Silverton , had lunch there and eventually got back on the train and went back to Durango. Great scenery !
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Back then it was still run by the Rio Grande. Run badly by the Rio Grande. But later when Bradshaw bought it he made it amazing. Well always was amazing but he made it better Rio Grande was always trying to close it. Hatred it. But the government wouldn’t let them abandon it.
@Buynot
@Buynot 6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching some videos of the D&S that were taken back in the 90's and watching the morning yard movements with at least 5 or 6 steam engines moving around at once assembling the days trains. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. Its scenes like that is why I love the D&S so much.
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
It is really cool to see these big steam engines moving about the yard! They seem "alive"... working hard.. huffing and puffing! Really awesome on cold days!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Back then there were no diesels on the line. NONE. 100% steam.
@natevince3154
@natevince3154 5 жыл бұрын
When I went to the Durango and Silverton, the Train I was on was pulled by K28 #476, great ride.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
That’s the best ride in America
@trainjack16
@trainjack16 5 жыл бұрын
I rode behind 476 and 481 when my dad and I went to the Durango and Silverton this summer.
@jimkammerer8028
@jimkammerer8028 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME GOOD VIDEO VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR TIME THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US ALONG TO ENJOY YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME WITH US YOUR SUBSCRIBERS ALWAYS INTERESTING NEVER BORING ENJOY YOUR DAY AND YOUR PROJECTS ALWAYS LOVE TO SEE YOU BOTH IN YOUR ADVENTURES AND BOTH YOUR PROJECTS THANK YOU AGAIN. I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU. BE SAFE AND CAREFUL SHELTER AT HOME AS MUCH AS YOU CAN STAND IT AND I AWAIT YOUR NEXT NEXT VIDEO. 👍👍👍👍🙂😁JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! We really want to get back to Durango but this silly virus has everything screwed up. They’ve bought some diesel locomotive to do track work with. Moreover the run in one of the locomotives on oil to help prevent fires. Just so much going on there and we’re stuck at home
@vincentfontana7915
@vincentfontana7915 3 жыл бұрын
The Durango & Silverton is by far the very best steam railroad I've ever rode on. I've ridden many but this is 1st class line but I must say anything railroad is cool I think we can all agree on that.
@wcarlhepker4806
@wcarlhepker4806 6 жыл бұрын
When I was in Durango, we rode behind 476 to Silverton and back. It was working but not as it should. The throttle was either wide open or off. Nothing in between. The engineer showed me. He tried to give it just a little throttle and the lever shot back at him like it was shot out of a cannon. He was able to do some mitigation of the throttle with the Johnson bar but that did not completely make up for it. When we arrived in Silverton, a few minutes later, 481 came in and parked beside us. It is great to see your video and remember our time there. Thank you for sharing it with us!!
@evanf1293
@evanf1293 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be making my first visit to D&S next week and boy I am exciting, my uncle even scheduled for me to get a tour of the steam roundhouse as well, I already know this trip will be one of my highlights of 2021.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 2 жыл бұрын
Spend some time in Silverton. The guys there on the “Silverton Northern” have some cool stuff.
@evanf1293
@evanf1293 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision I'll be riding the regular steam run to Silverton next Thursday with my aunt & uncle
@gunnyusmc8412
@gunnyusmc8412 5 жыл бұрын
Id give anything to be able to workin that shop😁 enjoyed video
@carmillakarnstein691
@carmillakarnstein691 6 жыл бұрын
Simply great! Congratulations for this video! I love narrow gauge railroads! Durango & Silverton and Denver & Colorado Southern are fantastics, terrifics!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
We just love the area. Some people sing about their favorite things. Snowflakes on kittens.... When we are feeling down, (almost never happens) we head to Durango...
@carmillakarnstein691
@carmillakarnstein691 6 жыл бұрын
I love trains! I have an layout in HO SCALE called "Lost Creek" (transition era - steam to diesel). My fictitious railroad is an lumber railway company acquire by Southern Railroad, which preserved the old steam locomotives. Thanks a lot for your videos!
@valeriebassett3107
@valeriebassett3107 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. Everytime I watch one of your videos I learn something new and wonderful. Thank you for filming this and sharing.
@JerkRice
@JerkRice 6 жыл бұрын
What a nice tour of the shop. Another top notch video. You guys are great.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!! Fun to get into the roundhouse. Spent a night in this one in the 90s. long story....
@daviemaclean61
@daviemaclean61 6 жыл бұрын
Great insight into the roundhouse and surrounding workshops. A grand (several) days out
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot by watching the wheel truck get rebuilt. Wish they would have just left us there to see the rest of the operation.
@ggsumner1947
@ggsumner1947 6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys as always. I think in terms of narrow gauge, this is my railroad. Not to take away from Dale, but I enjoy your commentary as well Karyn. Thanks for the tour of the shop as well, and for explaining the various aspects of the shop operations. I wish you both a great Thanksgiving.
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! We were looking for a turkey for the "big day", but we insist on a San Pete Norbest. Keep the money local. And Karyn was 3rd generation at the "plant". Sent hundreds of thousands of big birds to Thanksgiving tables. Most of the turkeys in the stores are San Pete Norbests, but none at Walmart.
@LarryWGrant-dw6jo
@LarryWGrant-dw6jo 6 жыл бұрын
I have really enjoyed your recent videos of Colorado and related narrow gauge railroads. You guys really have so much fun!
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
We really do! Thanks!!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
So many trains... so little time..... How does one clone ones self.....
@TheBarry1m
@TheBarry1m 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love seeing what goes on in the workshops. Great education.
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
Me too! I love any kind of shop! When Dale asked me to marry him.. My only question was; "Okay... Never mind the house... How big is the garage??" :D
@TheBarry1m
@TheBarry1m 6 жыл бұрын
You are truly an unusual woman, hard to find one who really knows the meaning of "screwing around" God Bless you. :-)
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Spent the night in this roundhouse in like 95?? 96?? While we were making "The West" with Ken Burns. The loco broke at the end of day, so the "guys" started work at like 4 pm. Got it back up at like 6 AM. So I just hung out and shot video. JUST FOUND THAT FOOTAGE. Empty roundhouse.... Middle of the night..... WOW.....
@TheBarry1m
@TheBarry1m 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a "treasure" Hope you show us. Isn't making movies wonderful! (statement not a question)
@TrainChamber
@TrainChamber 6 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how these are built. Its really cool because 473 survived three accidents
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Was there for the truck wreck. Just missed the fire... The truck was totally airborne!! Flew about 60 - 80 feet before smashing into the loco!!
@TrainChamber
@TrainChamber 6 жыл бұрын
The truck was with all the potatoes right?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. Or potato chips after the wreck. No dip......
@TrainChamber
@TrainChamber 6 жыл бұрын
haha i don't think there would be dip in a train wreck
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Often a dip causes it. Or a "dip".
@vincentfontana7915
@vincentfontana7915 3 жыл бұрын
The round house is killer I seen the original but the new one is pretty sweet awesome as well. I remember when it burnt my heart sunk I thought it was all over thank God it was a new beginning.
@paulmcguire3789
@paulmcguire3789 6 жыл бұрын
always a good watch, I enjoy your video's thank you.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@pinchy08
@pinchy08 6 жыл бұрын
481 and 486 are my favorite K-36s running, and I think the oldest.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
I love 489. Just cause I have some history with it.
@carlsorensennb7c750
@carlsorensennb7c750 6 жыл бұрын
A+ as always. Thanks
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks back.
@stephensfarms7165
@stephensfarms7165 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏👍👍👍👍
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!! We really wanted to get back this fall but speaking of fall we have some medical issues. So as soon as I get a new hip and up and walking again, and Karyn is back to 100%. Oh heck let’s see if we can make 70%, I’d go with 50% on my hip... but I digress. We will get back to Durango. They have a loaner locomotive we haven’t seen!
@stephensfarms7165
@stephensfarms7165 4 жыл бұрын
Toy Man Television : thanks 🙏. Be looking for it. 👍
@kirkbobo1363
@kirkbobo1363 6 жыл бұрын
they have K28 473 running this past summer, great to hear 476 is being added
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure why 473 was back in the shop. Noting really wrong with it. But getting some work. 478 just needs inspection and tubes, will take about 6 weeks once 476 is done in February. SO, come the spring, should have all 3 working!!!!!!!!! First time in 20 years.
@jabru41
@jabru41 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Great video!!!g
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
jabru41 thanks!! Love this one because I can get info for my models, the roundhouse and passenger cars.
@tom7601
@tom7601 6 жыл бұрын
Love the Carter Brothers boxcars.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Whats not to love. Odd, that most people have not noticed that boxcars are joining cabooses on the dead track. Not long ago like 80% of a train would be boxcars. Now, only a few trains have a few.
@upsd402
@upsd402 6 жыл бұрын
Again, great video, did a very good job with the roundhouse, and the supportive buildings. Very professional. Again, great video.
@stephenmeme3072
@stephenmeme3072 6 жыл бұрын
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@stephenmeme3072
@stephenmeme3072 6 жыл бұрын
We Poooo
@stevew270
@stevew270 5 жыл бұрын
I love those Farmall's! I have my late grandpa's 46 H he bought new.
@paulsadowski7504
@paulsadowski7504 6 жыл бұрын
The K-28 was the engine that usually pulled the daily San Juan. It was the sport edition as my friends like to call it. There are only three left because the US government took seven of them to Alaska during the war and found that their counter weights got stuck in the high snow and led to derailments. So after the war they were scrapped. I took the D&S photo train in 2015 and 473 pulled the train. I also took pictures of 473 last year during rail fest 2016. When I get around to modeling Chama to Cumbres someday I will definitely buy a K-28 to pull the daily San Juan.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
This is, in part, why I want one for the layout!! We have 8 passenger cars, look best with a K 28 on there.
@thatonetraindoge
@thatonetraindoge 6 жыл бұрын
Great News as of typing this the restoration on the 476 is completed
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Now I need a 1:20.3 model of it. YEEPEE
@stephentucker4435
@stephentucker4435 6 жыл бұрын
Took the roundhouse and shop tours about 10 years ago. Look forward to going back and doing it again. Maybe we'll stay at the Strator Hotel next time!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
DO!! Its great. Or the Palmer House, but the Strator is great.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Most enjoyable.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
What the heck is the a picture of in your thumb nail??
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Its a planter on a station in Scotland, made from the old sherry caskets used in the distilleries to mature the whiskey. I am just editing my own version of the Durango and Silverton Railroad, should be available in a day or two.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
I just knew a drop of Glenfity was involved!!!
@FutureRailProductions
@FutureRailProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Looking forward to next Sunday's! Hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
We did!! Hope you did as well. We just shot 5 shows for the Collectors Attic. Hope people like that. Do watch for it.Sunday is the Intermountain train Show.
@FutureRailProductions
@FutureRailProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Toy Man Television Thanks! I did have a great Thanksgiving! And I'll keep an eye out for it!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
PS Love the car in your thumb..
@williamgant5463
@williamgant5463 6 жыл бұрын
473 was in service when you were there, just not being used. All 3 K-28's and several other engines were damanged in the fire, all we back in service within a year
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Yup. Down for the day. Anyway all are running now!!!
@williamthethespian
@williamthethespian 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Happy Thanksgiving. (subscribed)
@nathancorcoran5347
@nathancorcoran5347 6 жыл бұрын
This is the only railroad where they have the K-28's which are D&RGW 473, 476, and 478. I did a film with 478 in the museum in 2016 after the ride on 482. I already tell you that on the Durango & silverton video that came out in 2015 that you made. I did film with a little of the engine's D&RGW 481, 480, 482, 478, 493, one of the D&S Diesel engines, and RGS C-17 # 42. But I was wanting to film the rest which are D&RGW 498, 473, 486, 476, and the other D&S diesel locomotives.
@2quintly
@2quintly 6 жыл бұрын
Overall an interesting video. I recommend you might want to do a little "editing" in regard to some of your comments/"facts". Probably using normal railroad nomenclature when explaining the various components of wheel sets and how they are constructed/fit together would help for a better understanding. The "other" K-28 is NOT the 472, but actually the 473. So, the 3 K-28s at Durango are the 473, 476, and the 478. Who is the "new" owner and does that mean that Allen Harper no longer owns the RR?
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan 6 жыл бұрын
Actually that turntable is powered by compressed air there are only a few vintage compressed air power turntables in the United States we've got one and Maydelle, Texas on the Texas State Railroad which is also operated by the company that owns the Durango & Silverton in Colorado and the Great Smoky Mountain Railroad in Tennessee
@jerredwayne8401
@jerredwayne8401 5 жыл бұрын
Yep between rusk and Palestine. Too bad we will likely never see Texas and Pacific 610 make a turn on it
@fritzs8117
@fritzs8117 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I had known you were in town. I'd have screwed around with you!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
We almost never plan anything. Just go....
@fantastictoys4960
@fantastictoys4960 6 жыл бұрын
wow so good
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!! Share it around with people you like. Or even dislike. Caus it's Christmas.
@realmagicjon
@realmagicjon 6 жыл бұрын
Hi team Toy man,thanks for sharing.Jon.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!!
@ATSFVentaSpurNscaler
@ATSFVentaSpurNscaler 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video of your Durango screwing around, Dale & Karyn! You should also show us viewers what's currently going on in Garage Majal. -from Tom Pilling
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
Getting over there soon! With winter on the way, and less yard work.. We will be over there as often as we can! .... Unless we have a blizzard. Then we will be shoveling out! WAIT! We bought a snow blower! With me behind the "wheel".. That, in and of itself, could make for an interesting show.. Sort of like Lucille Ball on the riding lawn mower!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Back to the backdrop in 3 weeks.....
@pbyfr
@pbyfr 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. What some great shops. And to be able to see the action so near! Speaking of wheels, it seems that it is harder and harder to get specific wheels in any scale, if you aren't modeling standard stuff.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Require custom machining. Dave at Ozark just bought a lathe for making #1 gauge wheels, (The guy who has been making these has quit. ) but has no idea how to use it. And HO is harder. N??? Z?????????
@stevemellin5806
@stevemellin5806 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you again my grilfriend likes your t shirts
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Been there, done that, bought the souvenir tee shirt.
@billdickson2243
@billdickson2243 6 жыл бұрын
They are using the wood pellets overnight to keep the engines warm. The wood pellets don't produce the Soot, that the coal does. Avoids soot pollution in Durango neighborhoods. (Took Roundhouse Tour in October)
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure. For cold starts for sure. Regular wood pellets, but BIG. About 3 inches across.
@chrisw8417
@chrisw8417 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they don’t use wood pellets overnight. I was an engine watchman there. We used coal all night. Only time we used the pellets was to help light a cold loco. Would use a few shovels of pellets over the coals and light the fire with diesel soaked rags.
@jonheller2307
@jonheller2307 6 жыл бұрын
Loved it, especially the back shop coverage. However, the K28 is my favorite, so pardon me for disagreeing with your comments on style...lol!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
OH we love us a K-28!!!! But dang theys peculiar looking. Been thinking of bashing a K 27 into a K 28. All I need to replace is the lead truck, the trailing truck, the boiler and all the stuff attached to that, the cab, and a few little things... BUT could use the mechanism.
@jonheller2307
@jonheller2307 6 жыл бұрын
Toy Man Television I like the Sports look of the K28. Reminds me of a fast car... business end up front..
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker 6 жыл бұрын
+ToyMan Tine 3:50 *Thanks for an interesting tidbit.* Those wood pellets must be needed to get the firebox hot enough for the bituminous to catch; I need a similar boost from a couple ounces of naphtha when lighting a couple pounds of Kingsford® Mesquite™ to fire-roast a heavy chunk of beef or pork.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
We just saw video of lighting 491 in Golden. They were tossing in scrap lumber. Had a good ol fire going too. Then adding in coal. I for one never under estimate "boy scout water". (gasoline) A think worth doing is worth risking life for.
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up around coal and wood heating systems.. which appear to work in similar fashion. Coal has to be hot enough to burn, so one can't simply set fire to it with a match. Wood.. or small chunks of wood called kindling, are used, along with something like wadded up news papers placed over and around the coal. A match is used to light the news papers, which burn easily, catching the kindling on fire. The attendee simply keeps feeding more scraps of wood into the fire, until a good blaze is established. Eventually.. the coal will begin to burn. At that point.. all that is needed is to have more coal added. Coal burns longer and hotter.. A proper "draft" is needed for the fire to burn proper.. If not.. a lot of smoke and sometimes sulphur gas which can be dangerous.. Sometimes the smoke will appear orange. Creosote can build up in the chimney, or flue.. and can catch fire easily.. I'm not a fan of using any type of fire starter to start a fire in a coal heating appliance.. simply because of the eventual build up of creosote in the chimney, which is highly flammable! A fireball going up the chimney is never a good idea! LOL! Now... I'm not sure about a steam locomotive.. But after all that restoration work... I would bet they feel the same way!! :D
@erkamp1152
@erkamp1152 5 жыл бұрын
Also that one k28 isn’t 472 but 473 and was rebuilt immediately after the fire
@MPT_Productions
@MPT_Productions 6 жыл бұрын
476 is now operational and has ran its first run today, Friday, February 16, 2018.
@erkamp1152
@erkamp1152 5 жыл бұрын
All 3 are operable right now but 478 was put in the museum for storage.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! I love the K28. Weird but beautiful.
@DillonTrinhProductions
@DillonTrinhProductions 6 жыл бұрын
the D&S did run a k-37 beck in the old days
@fritzs8117
@fritzs8117 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. 497, which was later traded to the C&TSRR for one of the K-36's... 486 I believe. The trailing truck on the K-37's tears up the trackage in some of the turns on the D&S.
@farmerdave7965
@farmerdave7965 6 жыл бұрын
4:28 you are looking at a bucket elevator which hoists the sand up to the top by means of steel buckets mounted to a vertical rubber conveyor belt.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure how exactly this one works. It's rebuilt, but looks like the original in many ways. Modern ones use a belt. The original used compressed air to blow the sand into the tank at the top. Small pipe, didn't need to be much, often leaked when it was in use. I see the pipe here, but again, as this is rebuilt, not sure what's up. The one at Chama is still original.
@crystalrock18
@crystalrock18 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding Colorado the band Ozark Mountain Dare Devils wrote the song titled “Colorado Song” and the beginning lyrics as I remember are “I’m going back, Colorado. Going down the highway.”
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Million dollar highway?
@crystalrock18
@crystalrock18 6 жыл бұрын
Toy Man Television Could be that one they were singing about. Either way great band and great song.
@crystalrock18
@crystalrock18 6 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, that one. THE BEST HIGHWAY!!!!!!!
@pinchy08
@pinchy08 6 жыл бұрын
Durango and Silverton has 3 K-28 Mikados #s 473, 476, and 478. I’m sure 473 is still running. There are 4 K-36 Mikados #s 480 (fist K-36) 481, 482, and 486.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
473 was in the shop while we were there. Not sure what the problem was, but they said they had no K -28 at the moment. But it's back now. 476 should be back in February and then 478 can go into the shop for inspection and tubes. Should have all 3 back in the spring!!
@k4kfh
@k4kfh 6 жыл бұрын
Did you have to get any special permissions or pay extra to see the shops and the turntable? What time of day did you go?
@markreardon3472
@markreardon3472 6 жыл бұрын
After the brillo pad comment where there was an actual wheel lathe then it showed the machinist running a "vertical turret lathe" that looked like a 42" bullard. They use these machines to do journals and journal brass.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
YUP!!! REally cool to see this stuff full size AND working.
@markreardon3472
@markreardon3472 6 жыл бұрын
For sure man! And Thanks for sharing your travels.
@robertrussell2166
@robertrussell2166 6 жыл бұрын
473 has been in service all summer and if pulling the polar express right now
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
It was in the shop for some reason.... Glad it's back! Probably nothing really wrong with it. 476 was supposed to pull the Polar Express thins year, or so I hear..
@drgw4883
@drgw4883 6 жыл бұрын
When I rode the train in July, 486 actually broke in Silverton. Fortunately, we had 482, but there was nothing to replace 486... except a diesel. Talk about luck for those tourist.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
I rode 486 back in 2014, we were the train following #482! How's that for a coincidence?
@fritzs8117
@fritzs8117 6 жыл бұрын
In the summer of 2015, 486 blew a main rod at Elk Park, enroute to Silverton. One of the steam engines already in Silverton was dispatched to rescue that train. One that day, #473 returned from Silverton hauling her original train, and that consist that was being hauled by #486. There is a video taken from near the Rockwood Cut that displays the spectacle. You may have to visit the railroad's home page to find that video. It was shot by employees of the railroad.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
I actually likt the D&S diesels, on a railroad with very similar steam locos, it's nice to see something different. I wish they kept one in the red, silver and gold though.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 6 жыл бұрын
When I rode the D&S in July 2007 I gave them info on the Porter 6-axle diesel from USG which would have been a good back up and work loco as it is 75 tons. It wound up on the Georgetown Loop RR where it is way over size for the use.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
You're not really wrong with your idea of the K-28 design proccess. It was written down on a napkin as a quick idea of a small-ish easy to maintain loco. They are called sport-model mikados for a reason.
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
Many a great idea had it's debut written down on a napkin... Sometimes stained with a little coffee!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Sure love to bag one in 1/20.3 scale........ GAD they are butiful.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
haha, the first K-28 (470), was thrown together as aside project by ALCO. After extensive testing, including a tug-of-war between it and a K-27, as well as it and one of the Unitah Mallets (that ALCO "borrowed"), it was shown to be quite an incredible loco.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
We actually have an old farmall. The tractor is older than the K-37s!
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
I am incorrect, our tractor is older that NKP 765, as well as other numerous steam locos.
@trainjack16
@trainjack16 5 жыл бұрын
They have 473 operational.
@robertlucido3686
@robertlucido3686 6 жыл бұрын
You should check out the crossroads village and Huckleberry railroad in Flint Michigan
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
There is talk of that K 27 going "home" to Chama......... Love to see that. Still would love to see the Huckleberry railroad in Flint Michigan, just take bottled water......
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 6 жыл бұрын
The GCP&RC would need a replacement steam loco to substitute for No. 2 (or 152). The Tweetsie No. 12 is almost an exact duplicate of No. 2. The driver diameters are one inch different. I worked there from April '79 to Oct. '83.
@robertlucido3686
@robertlucido3686 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard that 152 is supposed to be back in service this year
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Lucido We used to take our kids. That one is coal fired also. Its a !nice time.
@timmybentz7802
@timmybentz7802 6 жыл бұрын
i like your videos inter resting i hope you and wife had a nice peaceul thanksgiving day i got a memorial room my greatest grandpa that work on the western maryland rail road and to my dad to he toke me to train lay outs and and toke on train rides my dad died 2012 the memorial room is my train room i trim it t christmas time it look like a winter wounder land light the house and a smile christmas tree may god bless you and your wife hoildays season o yes i subscribed to your channel keep up the good work on your videos
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving!! Now lets have a great Christmas!! Looked at your train room. Pretty cool!
@Slick1869
@Slick1869 6 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong but one k28 is still in service the 473 right? I’ve rode both the 473 and 478 in the past year.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
As of now, all 3 are back up!!!!!!!
@nicholasmedovich6729
@nicholasmedovich6729 3 жыл бұрын
498 IMHO would be more of a project for C&TS. My only thought, at least put her in the roundhouse or 1472 her to avoid any other exposure to the elements
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to se 223 at CATS.
@bluefoxy6478
@bluefoxy6478 6 жыл бұрын
They restored or still working on it, a k-28 that will burn oil and when i was there they said it wpuld be done by next month at that time, dont know if there done yet.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Need to look into it.
@basictransportenthusiast4386
@basictransportenthusiast4386 6 жыл бұрын
2:55 473 was running.
@joe-ut7ee
@joe-ut7ee 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing I don't like about the K28 is that air pump on the front.
@RileyRailAviationNTrucks
@RileyRailAviationNTrucks 6 жыл бұрын
nice! Where was 473?
@whitcraft4578
@whitcraft4578 6 жыл бұрын
The 473 was in the roundhouse under the disguise of 472.
@thememegenerator7993
@thememegenerator7993 5 жыл бұрын
you should go back there to see southern pacific narrow gauge no.18
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Planning on that!
@bradenkilby
@bradenkilby 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a standard gauge consolidation turn by hand
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Always amazing to see.
@bradenkilby
@bradenkilby 6 жыл бұрын
Yep
@bluesmokeproductions4642
@bluesmokeproductions4642 5 жыл бұрын
Would that be the Great Smoky Mountains Railroad by chance? They have a standard gauge consolidation and a turn table that has to be turned by hand.
@r.c.r.rproductions8462
@r.c.r.rproductions8462 5 жыл бұрын
i feel like if these locos were like the thomas locos the k36s would pick on the smaller k27s
@jamesshanks2614
@jamesshanks2614 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think they use steam to power the turntable. I worked in my career as a locomotive engine and when I first worked as a fireman and our turntables were either electric or powered by compressed air provided by either the engine house power plan torte locomotive's air brake system. I'm surprised their still using babbitted wheel bearings. Babbitted wheel bearings have been outlawed for over 20 years on the mainline rail network in Canada and the United States. I visited Durango back in 1980 the last year it was owned and operated by the Denver and Rio Grande Railroad and was surprised as i arrived in early May to find out I couldn't buy a ticket for the round trip as they were already sold out. For the entire season. Did drive to Silverton to explore the line and really enjoyed my trip until I got woken up by the campground owner at 245 in the morning saying I had just a few minutes to pack and get to higher ground as the snowmelt was raising the Animas river faster than expected . Parked with my headlights lighting the campsite I occupied and was glad I was woken up as within 10 minutes after I was woken up and packed and drove up to higher ground my campsite was under 3 feet of water and rising. Turned out a warm front had settled in over night and started rapid snowmelt. Shame someone couldn't rebuild the railroad from Durango to Antonito, Colorado linking the old D&RG segment still running in New Mexico and Colorado. I'd pay to ride the overnight train from Chama to Silverton in an old school Pullman sleeper pulled by a K-28 K-36 or a K-37. It would be interesting because it would require 2 trains a night. One westbound and one eastbound. All those in favor of rebuilding the line and restoring overnight passenger sleeper service raise your voices.
@karynfelix-the-Cat
@karynfelix-the-Cat 6 жыл бұрын
Well... That depends.. You see, Dale and I are trying to figure out how to make a turn table to work with a 20th scale model railroad. Just trying to figure out how to do that! I fully expect to see a little "steam" from the both of us, at first attempts to make it operable! LOL! Just the way it goes.... or doesn't sometimes!! LOL! We will do a show on that, for sure!! X"D
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
The air motors on the turntables were, as I understand, long ago steam. Everything was steam, even the wheel lathes. The house boiler served many uses. The only babbit used is in the old equipment, the C18 and the which is on loan to CATS, and the Silverton guys use it I THINK. The ones in the film are bronze. Most of them are Timken or other roller, but the wheel truck they are rebuilding here, for some reason, is "old school". The car they are rebuilding here is spread all over the shop. VERY OLD. And I guess being kept original. The stack of wood parts in the film are off of it, but no one could tell us what it is!! We need to find the horses mouth!! Amos!! Yup, 4 trains, and always sold out!!! They added a Gorge rail bus years ago to help with people showing up, but no one wanted to ride it. Ran from Rockwood into the Canyon a few times a day. There has been talk of using 42 as a replacement for that, and that may sell. We would ride it!! But a home made rail bus for an hour?????? Boring... As for relaying the missing track........ SIGN US UP. Problem is the Durango end is all highways today. Grade is not usable. But only like 5 miles of it. The rest is all there, but several large bridges that are in total disrepair. Whe is needed is to get Bill Gates into trains. Dump 500 million on the project.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 6 жыл бұрын
Money is not the only problem or redoing the bridges or replace the missing grade. The BIG problem is the Ute Indian tribe's reservation through which a lot of the old grade goes.
@Toledo1940
@Toledo1940 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision : I doubt that the turntable was ever operated by steam, which will condense to water the minute it is removed from the boiler. Many turntables in Canada used compressed air furnished by the air brake system on the locomotive being turned.
@TheTrekkiGaming
@TheTrekkiGaming 6 жыл бұрын
That was amazing guys but some corrections and questions that confused me. The k-28 that was in the roundhouse beside 476 was 473 which was running all season over the summer. Also they had stopped running 4 trains around 10 years ago because their ridership severely dropped after the 2002 forest fire. Also the D&S were trying to aquire 483 from the C&TS with a trade with 478 which has not rub since 2015 because of the 1472 rebuild and the D&S working on 476. Before my question next time you guys are in the roundhouse you should ask about touring the sleeper car they have next to the bobber caboose. They only open it up if people ask to see it. Also was there a fire recently in the roundhouse? The videos are great so keep up the good work!
@quasimoto7662
@quasimoto7662 6 жыл бұрын
David Shupe in 1989 vandals burned the original roundhouse, which had been reduced to 5 stalls or something from the original 10 stalls. They saw this as an opportunity, and built a 15 stall roundhouse in its place in an outstanding amount of time.
@TheTrekkiGaming
@TheTrekkiGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Quasimoto7 I know about that fire but it sounded like 473 was taken out of service because of a fire recently.
@quasimoto7662
@quasimoto7662 6 жыл бұрын
David Shupe no. That engine is just currently out of service. Not sure why but it just probably needs maintenance
@TheTrekkiGaming
@TheTrekkiGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Quasimoto7 Ok good I was just worried and curious.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure why 473 was down, but it's back now. They told me they have plans to "rebuild" 478 after 476 gets back up in February. BUT if they could trade for a k 36, I'm sure they would. Be cool to have a K 28 at Chama, but the 36 is a real workhorse. However, the 28 is synonymous with Durango....
@justindampier5108
@justindampier5108 6 жыл бұрын
Will we see your modeling work this winter?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Yup!!!!!!!!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Dampier sitting here watching some TV! Should be sitting here modeling shouldn’t I?? Hum..... planning on getting back to the railroad yard I ADAY or so. Wow!!!
@justindampier5108
@justindampier5108 6 жыл бұрын
Toy Man Television LOL! When I'm stopped for the night, I work on my models in my semi. I'm a OTR trucker
@richardlintermoot1546
@richardlintermoot1546 Жыл бұрын
491 is running in goldin
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision Жыл бұрын
Love that locomotive.
@admiralabraham1564
@admiralabraham1564 4 жыл бұрын
493 is running now
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын
As is the T22 in Antonito. Hum.. road trip! Narrow Gauge reunion in August. E and p 5 will be there as will the Glenbrook
@zacharylucisbecker2352
@zacharylucisbecker2352 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s the T12
@gaugebrady5416
@gaugebrady5416 6 жыл бұрын
I have a HO scale Kansas and Durango train
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Don't know that one...
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan 6 жыл бұрын
Is there actually a Durango & Silverton k28 472?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. At one time, back in the day.. but it went to the White Pass and died up there like 60 years ago. Of the 10, all thats left are the 3 on the D & S.
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan 6 жыл бұрын
Toy Man Television for some reason you said that was number 472 I think you meant to say 473
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
I mass that sort of thing up all the time. Even my phone number.
@bluefoxy6478
@bluefoxy6478 6 жыл бұрын
There rebuilding another engine and it will burn oil. Forgit to mention, they plan to get it done next month.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
Who is?
@zacharylucisbecker2352
@zacharylucisbecker2352 6 жыл бұрын
When do all remaining 3 K-28 2-8-2 locomotives run again
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
I just few weeks. We hope....
@owenthetrainman7219
@owenthetrainman7219 Жыл бұрын
Can you just go watch them when they turn a locomotive on the turntable whenever they have one ready to go?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision Жыл бұрын
Well yes.. but you need to be inside the museum. There is a walkway from there out to a viewing area near the turntable. And I’m not sure exactly what they require in order to get into the museum. It’s not part of the tour so you don’t need to sign up for that. But it may require an admission ticket to just the museum part? Not sure
@owenthetrainman7219
@owenthetrainman7219 Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision I do believe that it is free of charge. Well I’ll be there in a few hours so I’ll find out.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
There are several K-37s, two in operational or semi-operational condition. Those being 491, and 497. Others that exist are 494 (in silverton), 498, and I think that 499 is still existing somewhere (probably in a field). I would have to disagree, as far as narrow gauge locos go, I think the K-28s, the K-37s, and the K-27s look better.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
I guess that's because there are just so more K-36s than any other D&RGW loco around.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
As much as I hate to say it, the 472 was scrapped, that is #473 painted like 472.
@jerrodp3572
@jerrodp3572 6 жыл бұрын
I think most of the k-37s are still around, just none of them have operated. 493 was in this video and there are rumors of it going to be fixed up but no one really knows if it really will be fixed up or not
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
There are a bunch of K 37 left in the world, but only one runs. As of now. 491 is great and at Golden. 492 is at Antonito. As is 494 and 495. 497 is at Chama. Was running on D and S for years, they traded it to CATS for a K36 482 which is one of the main locos on D and S. Not much wrong with 497, but the K37s are very hard on track. Anyway, will run again at some point. 498 is in the video. Worst of the K37s. Used for parts. 499 was traded to Canon City for the K36 that belonged to Gene Autry, #486 in 1999, also one of the 4 at Durango. The K 37s were terrible on the D and S track. The two they ran were tearing up the rails on the curves in the Gorge. Then Chama found they too had problems with them. 491 is doing fine at Golden as its just not run that much, and the few hundred yards of rail are easy to repair. BUT K 37s were just never intended to be narrow gauge locos. The K 36s are perfect on these railroads. And perfect proportions. Great looking locos. 8 surviving, 4 on each railroad. And a fifth, 483 which may run again.
@CoalChrome
@CoalChrome 6 жыл бұрын
The K-37's are very good locos, as for the reason for them being hard on track (combined with their weight), is that they aren't balanced precisly. It's the same reason that C&S crews hated the #74, it wasn't balanced right and was very thirsty for lubricant on it's valve gear. The N&W had the same problems with their J's untill the 600 came into the shop and the re-worked the weights and bearings. After that, they were record holders for miles between services.
@nmccw3245
@nmccw3245 6 жыл бұрын
Ha! Make sure everything comes out OK before you complete the paperwork.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 6 жыл бұрын
HISTORY: While Thomas Crapper invented the "John", John Douglas built one of the early companies. making porcelain conveniences. On the front it said in huge gold letters "The John Douglas Co" Hence, "The John".
@MogamiK32
@MogamiK32 5 жыл бұрын
It’s 473 not 472
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