Beck tries on the Iron Spider suit. "Rides up in the crotch a little bit..."

The iron spider suit wasn’t the last thing Tony gave Peter! The last thing he gave him was a hug.

“I liked this movie.” Proceeds to rewrite entire movie

I can’t believe you didn’t say that this theory involved ‘Nandotechnology’ at least once

Not trying to be nitpicky but why would peter give beck the suit? Mysterio himself has his own suit why would peter jump from “lets give this guy an ai that he has no attachment to” to “Im going to give this guy a spiderman suit” this seems off to me

"Talos isn't an idiot either." THANK YOU

I feel like movies and comics have warped people's POV on what a "threat" is, like say "what if a real threat like," and then listing 2 worlds ending threats. There is a lot of space between a mugger and someone who can end all life on a planet! Also, people keep saying Mysterio doesn't have any actual powers in a way that implies him to be harmless when he is neither. Mysterio has powers just like Tony Stark has powers, via a genius intellect and technology. Mysterio simply has a more indirect style than Tony, using clever planning, drones, and holograms to do the bulk of his work.

daredevil could “see” through the illusions pretty easily

okay i know why E.D.I.T.H wasn't given to Fury .... he only has one eye.

Peter giving Beck the Iron Spider Suit is a bit out there.

Thanos' skin is bullet proof. The drones would do absolutely nothing to him. Stark has WAY more powerful missiles, and weapons of mass destruction that the drones. Better question is why he didn't send those down to hit Thanos.. But then again... Stark's suit arguably has far greater accuracy with equal power of most of his weaponry and no latency or delay. If Thor/Hulk/Iron Man all aren't doing jack to Thanos, his regularly old militia weapons aren't really on the top of his mind. The Iron man suit has his absolutely best tech and most lethal options available to him

Homecoming: Peter: I just wanted to be like you Tony: And I wanted you to be better Far From Home: Tony: For the next Tony Stark!

The elementals will emerge dramatically, do some damage, throw some screaming people, and just after all hope is lost, SYNDRO- I mean, MYSTERIO WILL SAVE THE DAY!

Tony used the glasses in 1970 to detect the entrance to SHIELD HQ in the army base in NJ.

You lost me with Peter giving away the Spider Man suit. I can see him giving away Edith. It's 's not attached to him he has no connection to it. But his suit? His problem was that he felt undeserving of the Tony Stark legacy,. Problem wasn't about being Spider-Man. He wanted to stay in the neighborhood because he didn't think he was big enough to face Global threats.

that’s interesting. Near the end Edith doesn’t obey Quentin when he asks to fire the drones, responding with “You’re in the killzone”, and only does it after receiving confirmation from Beck, so why didn’t Edith warn Peter? If that drone strike hit the bus, he would’ve been in the killzone.. Small nitpick but still weird.

I mean Edith isn’t just the drones. It’s access to everything Tony Stark has developed. Im sure they could use the information in starks database to make mysterio a “real” hero. Good video though!!!

I had the same ideas as you except my idea is mysterio using Edith to get a blueprint for designs of a Iron Man suit and using it to make himself into a real hero

"peter still has the powers, but doesn't have the motivation and his sense is diminished" ...that's literally the plot of Sam Raimi's spider man 2, the best of those three original films

Not to nitpick, unlike your podcast "Mostly Nitpicking", but Beck was able to use the drones for damage as they had built in weapons. As long as he could keep them hidden using the cloaking tech during a threat, he'd be able to play it off. But overall, great video!

The main thing i like about edith is the acronym

It makes sense, but I don't know if it would work as far as character. I would argue that Peter would NEVER give away the Iron Spider suit, because it was the last thing Tony gave him. Tony was essentially Peter's father figure. It's like how a son is given a pocket knife by their Dad and they keep it long after he's gone because it's a relic of their relationship. The Iron Spider suit is a relic of Tony and Peter's relationship, which I don't think Peter should ever want to willingly give up, like in your scenario. Is EDITH dumb? Yeah. I would say you just eliminate EDITH from the movie and just have Mysterio mosey along with what he was doing before. Instead of keeping Peter around, Quintin can try and manipulate Spidey to LEAVE under the disguise of him caring about his trip so that way there are fewer people that can figure him out. Mysterio's motivation can also be kind two-fold. His inward goal is that he wants to mentally stick it to Tony (which can help hammer in how much of a villain he is, since Tony's dead) but his outward goal, the one his crew are more behind, is to become a hero and take advantage of all the perks that come with it. I personally think that since Beck is SO focused on sticking it to Tony in his mind, that he doesn't think about meeting other heroes, once again showing how misguided he is. I did like your idea about how Peter is a bit downtrodden after the events of Endgame at the beginning of the movie though. I definitely would have done that. Always love watching your videos!

Great video, I have one small problem though. When you said mysterio’s plan doesn’t make sense because he doesn’t have “real powers” I think you’re forgetting that his illusions are only partially fake, they still cause real damage. So if mysterio was an avenger and up against an actual threat, he could still use his fake lasers to fight them because they cause actual destruction

Nah Peter giving beck the iron spider suit makes even less sense than giving him Edith.

I don't think Peter would be as quick to give away the Iron Spider Suit as he was to give away EDITH. The reason he gave EDITH to Mysterio was Tony's "For the next Iron Man, I trust you" message, which Peter interpreted as Tony telling him to give EDITH to whoever he thought was most worthy. *Peter didn't think EDITH was made for him.* The Iron Spider Suit was specifically built as a custom suit for Peter to use. Like you said, it was the real last thing that Tony made for him, so he has a lot more emotional attachment to the suit than he did to EDITH, and it's unlikely that he'd give it away as readily. In order for the plot device to work, EDITH had to be something new and detached, otherwise Peter wouldn't have wanted to give it away.

I get that the suit personalizes Peter's personal conflict more than Edith, but Peter doesn't doubt his identity as Spiderman. Peter is a local superhero. During the little reception Aunt May hosts for Spiderman and the press, Peter is bombarded with these questions about the world and stuff. All of these things are far above the threshhold that Peter is used to, and he accordingly mumbles, "ah don't you have any about the neighbhorhood" (paraphrased to the best of my memory). Peter's comfortable with his role as the local hero. As the friendly neighbhorhood Spiderman, but not the planetary hero: the Avenger. That's Peter's conflict. He doesn't know if can address the need for heroes that big in the wake of Tony's death. Peter is not ready to be an Avenger. Hence, Edith, Tony's legacy, bestowed unto Peter. The glasses with AI that controls these killer drones cradled in this sattelite drifting around Earth's atmosphere. An appropriately above-world object to represent Peter's fears and doubts regarding his ability to become a hero for Earth and not just Queens, his neighbhorhood. In fact, it-s why all these titles "Far From Home" are appropriate. He's learning to become a hero outside of his home, his comfort zone.

I think you're being way too reliant on the snap being such a big impact on Peter. He didn't survive the snap, so he didn't really have to deal with the consequences of the snap or the failure. He kinda just popped back into existence. You can tell it didn't have an effect on him by the way he approached Tony in the Endgame finale and was like "woah you were there one second then you were gone and Dr. Strange was like 'it's been five years let's go'" and then Tony hugged him. I don't think he'd really see it as his failure, because to him they succeeded in the end. He didn't personally have to suffer the consequences of the failure, and he's a kid so he can sympathize with the victims, but can't fully understand.

The way Mysterio would help is he’d just use the drone as a projection of himself! The drones do damage, so he’d just hologram himself

Wait what? Fury is Talos?! Maybe I should have waited a bit longer in the movie theater...

End Credits: 'box of scraps' guy should get what's left of the iron spider suit arms and become Doc Oc

That’s not the London Bridge, it’s the Tower Bridge This is Mostly Nitpicking right?

Are we going to ignore te fact that tony was wearing edith in endgame when steve and him went to the 1970's, I think anyway

You should make a podcast dude

I still feel like tony should leave peter something. Tony clearly cares about peter since, in endgame when he goes back to earth, he says "i lost the kid" which shows that hes clearly distraught, and even keeps a picture of him in his house. I think he shouldn't get something overpowered like the E.D.I.T.H glasses but maybe a literall pair of glass or even a watch just to show that they had a strong relationship and tonys care for peter.

But didn't Homecoming already touched the theme about Peter relying on the suit more than his own skills and abilities? I personally think that this was a Spiderman movie but overall a tribute to Iron Man and his relationship with who is arguably his closest avenger, Edith serves the purpose of being a metaphor of Tony Stark's legacy and the plot tries to show the importance it has to Peter

Thor got the “I failed” storyline. If multiple characters had this then character arcs would start to feel repetitive.

Even if it's not Edith I still like tony giving Peter his glasses

Everytime I walk out of a marvel movie thinking it was perfect and then you go blow my mind with a better-in-every-way version.

Edith First Appear In Civil War Then Infinity War and Endgame and The Reason Tony Gave Peter The Glasses because he sees Peter as his successor

"When did Tony make EDITH" He was already wearing them in Infinity War so it's not like they were randomly "made" during Endgame & they made them up as they were shooting FFH

I think my main problem with this rewrite is it makes iron man suck He built a suit that made Spider-Man weaker Also I think this Change would make the movie focus more on iron man because Spider-Man is using the iron spider suit. I think most people ( at least from what I saw) were glad that the iron spider suit was left behind it makes it feel more like a Spider-Man movie and less like an iron spider movie Anyway love the vid just putting out my thoughts

This rewrite is the same arch for Peter as Homecoming where he relies on his fancy suit and when it's taken away he has to relearn to be Spider-Man. I'm not feelin this AT ALL, Nando.

One thing about EDITH: the actual acronym was hilarious and perfect Tony.

Tbh this is the first video of yours where I liked the movie version better. Still you had a lot of cool "what if" ideas that I liked, solid video

Not trying to nitpick your nitpicks but Peter literally says in the movie why Tony wouldn't give the glasses to Nick Fury. As for the rest of the people you mentioned, the note he left for Peter said "For the next Tony Stark"; last time I checked, none of the characters you mentioned (except Harley) were ever directly under Tony's wing as most of them either have their own identities or are completely unrelated to Tony

Ok, first off, absolutely love your videos and have felt like each has offered a better concept for the movies they're based upon. However, after recently watching this movie, I personally feel that I preferred the original movie to your concept, but each to their own. Keep up your great work all the same and look forward to the next upload :)

"The Iron Spider suit is fun, but only for a little." *makes an entire movie based on the Iron Spider suit*

I always thought that the nano suits were based on the technology shared by Wakanda because that's where we saw that first, not a Stark invention.

Beck having real powers kinda wrecks what’s so cool about the challenge he presents. He’s so fun because he’s a villain that fights with his head not his fists.

On a 45 minute lunch break and this is only gonna take 17:59. I can dig it. Perfect timing.

To be honest, I was really happy with how they did Mysterio. I really like that idea of Quentin Beck being an unappreciated genius whose work Stark took credit for and that he just wants to be a superhero. And, if anything, that fact that his plan doesn’t make much sense is just showing how he just wants to be a superhero, and doesn’t think about the consequences or how it will all work out. If anything, it sort of mimics how some of us fans would love to be superheroes, and if given the chance would pursue it, not thinking about the specifics, albeit it much less evil ways. This isn’t me disagreeing with the video (you made some great points and great ideas), but just my thoughts on the matter, but nonetheless, another great video from your continually amazing channel.

Mysterio needed EDITH for mass destruction AND to get access to Tony Stark's work which would massively help Mysterio. Those glasses can do A LOT than just causing mass destruction on the go. Mysterio can pretty much hack into any system with those glasses.

EDITH Allowed Beck to Cause an "Avengers level threat" whereas before he could only replicate smaller threats. If he robbed Banks to slowly build drones that would take way more time Also, when an actual Threat comes along he could just use the drones

That 30 second nitpick is 10x better then the "it's not Sam rami reee " rant that HiTop did

Mysterio's plan is similar to Syndrome's plan from The Incredibles, but Syndrome actually had technology that directly gave him powers instead of relying on illusions and he staged a fight against a robot that was actually there, he only failed because he kept showboating. But he could have actually been a hero if he succeeded, unlike Mysterio.

I don't think your re write of Mysterio works, if he just becomes a real hero, then he sorta doesn't need a reason to be evil anymore

Me a week ago: "Far from Home was perfect!" Nando: "Hold my beer"

I’m not saying Edith wasn’t irritating or a tad contrived but I definitely don’t know when he’d have used it in endgame. The time heist was a hesit not a full on attack, and assuming Edith was just tied to the glasses which were probably not on Tony’s person at the time, he wouldn’t have had access to it in the final fight of endgame. It could have been made in the five year gap, with him writing a will before the time heist, very much like the recording, that should Peter be brought back he’d get Edith, as it seems like the kind of thing Stark would make in his paranoia to protect the world while he lived with his family. Idk, I’m not saying its perfect, but they’re just my thoughts.

"if you're nothing without the suit then you shouldn't have it"

I have issues with mysterio's plan and edith too. Though I appreciate the approach to Peter's confidence via spidey sense... ultimately this kinda seems like an iffy solution. Mysterio is thematically weakened with these ideas. The fact that mysterio was only ever a man in front of a camera is SO essential to that character. And I also enjoy the Stark hating contrast Beck and Co provided while the whole world was practically worshipping Tony. I think this approach would lack that.

Peter getting depressed about the failure is too much of a copy of Thor's "worthy" arc in Endgame

I agree that Edith isn’t completely necessary, but one thing you didn’t mention is the role the AI plays in develop Ming character and conflict between Spider-Man and mysterio. Mysterio’s character is all about tricking Spider-Man, so the Edith bit plays into that pretty well.

I saw the edith glasses as being about power and responsibility - in this case Peter being conflicted over what his responsibilities are in a post-endgame world. To me, that’s classic spidey (obviously superficially different due to the context of the mcu). I did enjoy the video and fully agree that the mob scenes should have been left in. I want more Spider-Man fighting crime in new york.

I thought Beck's backstory was pretty cool about having invented the hologram tech and then Tony selling it as some recreational thing.

I agree with losing the suit with the exception of the mask, and I say this for two reasons: 1, the eyes allow for emotion with the mask on allowing us a rare case of comic book-like expressions; and 2, the MCU already made the case that Peter's senses are too strong and need focusing. The mask solved that.

For the first time, I completely disagree. While there was *zero* foundation laid for the E.D.I.T.H. glasses prior to this movie, which naturally makes it's introduction a touch awkward, the use of a *separate* and distinct token for Stark to have passed on to the one he sees as his spiritual successor in the world of super-hero-ing is more like a king passing his sword down to his son in a fantasy setting. Yes, Stark gave the suit to Peter, but it wasn't something he was going to do, it was an emergency to keep Peter from dying in low-earth-orbit. Were it not for that, Peter wouldn't even have come back post-snap.

I think the thing about Edith is less about this film and more about setting up future things that would need iron man type technology

Oh man, this is just pure poetry - the way you deconstruct these things from movies and point to weaknesses (I never realised Edith is a weak McGuffin) and fix them. It's inspiring!

Can you talk about the new Dark Phoenix? I want to see what you would do with it.

I still like the movie's version better, but you've got some good ideas here.

Pretty sure Beck wanted to use the Mysterio persona to get the Stark tech and trust from the world in order to be in the position that Tony was in so that he can use the tech more responsibly (in his eyes)

Watching this video today and hearing him say "This will make a better Spidey from here on in the MCU" hurts

Would this version still have the AMAZING red-and-black suit?

My biggest complaint is that neither Fury(Talos) nor Maria(Skrull lady) had the idea to Google Quentin Beck just in case

Edith couldn't go to fury - it's a pair of glasses and he only has one eye.

I really love this film but this just makes it that much better. You always iron (haha) out all the little kinks in movies. Nando, you continue to blow my mind!

"Peter has forgotten what makes Spider-Man Spider-Man" honestly I think Sony has too

Edith stands for Even Dead I'm Giving Away Free Stuff

if you listen to the dialogue, you can hear that Fury GAVE the Glasses to Peter anonymously, but Peter thought they were given DIRECTLY to him.

this version of the far from home movie works so much more emotionally and man thank you for doing this.

Love your stuff! Really helping me grow as a writer! 🖤

Sorry but this rewrite makes even less sense. Why would peter give him the suit? As far as he knows, Mysterio is a sorcerer like Dr Strange and he doesnt need the suit and probably wouldnt have much use of it. Meanwhile EDITH is AI that has all kinds of abilities to spy and monitor, many satellites etc. Drones are the least valuable thing in EDITH. So, id rather they rewrite the whole script and make it so Mysterio is with peter from the get go, and has ulterior motive for the ilusions. Peter wants to fill up the void left by Tony with Beck. Midway trough he finda out the truth (maybe he connects robberies with attacks) and realises he must be his own hero and let go of Tonys influence and not be Iron Man Jr. but be Spider-Man . So, he throws the suit that has hampered his abilities away and makes himself a clean suit with NO special features other than moving eyes (but id remove that aswell tbh). After the end battle, he is sad about the Beck and lements that his icon turned out to be a fake and evil aswell. Mysterio still reveals his identity at the end. That way Mysterio is a petty thief, Peter has better emotional connection and he is his own hero at the end, finally ridding himself of Iron Mans influence. It works on more levels and isnt about the tech (not only, at least) and is about his mentor/icon figure. P. S. As for Fury, have him be info dump for missions and be a bit smarter. Reveal the skrulls at the end also. That part isnt as important.

I still cannot believe how movie after movie Nando is able to make 1 change that actually makes sense and improves the movie a great deal. Really great work with this one!

You fixed it. Legitimately. As much as I like watching the characters of this movie, the plot makes it hard to rewatch. I’ve rewatched homecoming 23 times.

SPOILER: Was the 'Other character' who happens to always be far away a jab at 'King' from One punch Man?

There should have been a little card in the glasses case, "With Great Power..."

This is definitely the best video i've seen explaining the problems far from home struggles with

I love your videos, they're great. But sometimes I regret watching them because I can only think about what could have been, rather than appreciate what's there.

I went to see it last week just because I knew your video was coming.

Honestly I’m still waiting for Harley’s time to dawn that suit. The next Iron Man, Iron Lad.

I like your changes. It tightens up a solid, if leaky, plot that we got.

they did the whole loosing his powers and giving away his suit in Sam Rami's Spider-Man 2

My one question is how does this change affect the mid credits scene? That revolved around peter using EDITH to shut off the drones? Is it like Peter picking up a part of mysterio’s suit to shut off the drones then?

Tony has the Edith Glasses on in Infinity War. They were just under the “Friday” monicker. Should a simple reconfiguration to name them Edith and pass them along to Peter that they don’t really have to show us cuz it doesn’t fit in Endgame it would just deter from the movie. So we can assume he did that when he was recording his will. Great video and idea nonetheless. And he wouldn’t give the glasses to anyone other than peter he had the closest connection to peter of all the other characters, and treated him like the Heir to the throne. Him and cap never resolved their issues before Tony would’ve made the Edith glasses nor would he expect Cap to be alive if he was recording his own will. He wouldn’t give them to Fury cuz he knows fury essentially put a gun to every living persons head in “Winter Soldier” so why would he give him the opportunity to do that again. And really all side characters who mean nothing to overall marvel story trynna tell like Pepper or The boy from Ironman 3 cmon Nando lol.

Man, your idea is AWESOME. I wish they had this insight. Would be SO GREAT, I WANT THAT

As usual - totally agree with you on this Nando! Great video!

No please, let's not go down into the "my powers are failing because I'm doubting myself" route with Spider-Man again.

I’m still sad Harley isn’t getting enough love in the MCU. Like I want him to be something more than the kid from Iron Man 3

This was great, Nando! I had a lot of the same thoughts that you had.

I loved the movie too but this rewrite does sound better. You really do have a talent for this, Hollywood needs to hire you!