“Sex with siblings is great you should try it” Rhaegar Probably

*Rhaegar leans in slowly to Jaime* He whispers "stay golden ponyboy"

Jamie's moral compass to kill the King makes me confused as to how he would even consider to stay with Cersei knowing what she did.

One of the tragedies of this story is that Rhaegar was going to depose his father but couldn't due to losing the battle at the trident 🕵🏾

“And me, that boy I was ... when did he die, I wonder? When I donned the white cloak? When I opened Aerys's throat? That boy had wanted to be Ser Arthur Dayne, but someplace along the way he had become the Smiling Knight instead.” - Jaime Lannister

Aerys had the most skilled and deadly kingsguard in probably several hundred years, possibly in the history of Westeros. Imagine an assassin trying to get through Jaime, Barriston, and Arthur Dayne

'We shall talk more when I return.' Same words Ned Stark said to Jon Snow.

I just realized that Rhaegar and Rob died for the same mistake, choosing love over duty.

I would love a Robert rebellion prequel. I wanna see badasses like Rhaegar and Arthur dayne in more in depth character and action

"Rhaegar would have been the greatest King of the Seven Kingdoms" Jaehaerys I would like to have a word

"Rhaegar would have been the greatest king in the Seven Kingdoms" Well.. better than Aerys sure, but the best ? We're talking about a man who humiliated his pregnant wife in front of all the nobility, then cast her aside with their two childrens, leaving them alone with his insane father, just to run away with a teenager while he was aware of the political consequences of such actions, all of this just because he was obssessed with a prophecy. He would have been more like Baelor the blessed than Daeron the good i think

He killed one mad ruler in the start and came to save the other mad ruler in the end....poor choice Jamie

Jaime and Theon had one thing in common: they both have decided that dying with their king would have been a fine death. Jaime later mused that he should have been with Rhaegar at the Trident, and Theon, after all the torture, would have rather died with Robb at the Twins than have did the things he did.

I don’t particularly like Rhaegar’s character but there’s something inherently sad and tragic about this line from Jaime’s POV. Regardless of any theories and speculation on exactly what those “changes” were but of a man who felt certain in his conviction of being a better king than his father was

i was filled with suspense and hope and so many emotions when Jaime left King's Landing and started his journey north at the end of season 7. I'm still in shock from all the disappointment after season 8....

5:38 “running away with lyanna mormont”- he ran away with lyanna stark

The mad king to Jamie Lannister: Stay next to me and I will teach you things from the kings. Have you ever read about incest?

You know how twisted Jaime's inner world was, when he looks at his missing hand, and thinks "This was the hand that made me the Kingslayer. The Goat took my glory and my shame"

Thanks for reminding me of how the show had failed Jaime Lannister's character. I had forgotten, after all this time, because his demise was so brutally overshadowed by a bunch of other, greater, show mishaps. In fact, if not for Danaerys' sudden, inexplicable plunge, into insanity, what was done to Jaime Lannister would probably stand as the single worst character arc ever violated by Dan & Dave. Jaime Lannister, for 7+ seasons of the show, had by far one of the most intriguing character arcs. We all watched as a "villain" at the beginning, was slowly absolved, and transformed into a "hero." But then, after the "Long Night" episode was over with... all of that "character development" was casually thrown out the window, like a rotten piece of meat, and the show runners decided Jaime should die, like a little b*tch, along with his intolerably insane sister. Good work, you pair of idiots! D & D "Red Wedding-ed" Jaime Lannister's character, on the show. A complete, and utter betrayal, that left no room for hope, or any sort of redemption. They f-cked up Dany... and they completely betrayed Jaime Lannister. And now, I'm mad at the show again...

“Love is the death of duty” - Grand Maestor Aemon

I think Aerys was paranoid but I don't think he was wrong about Rhaegar plotting against him to overthrow him. What Rhaegar said to Jaime about how things will be different after the Trident reinforces that ot me.

Thank you for continuing in making these videos.

Thanks for focussing on that very special moment, when the Kingslayer gave us the last words of the Last Dragon.

5:33 - he had always been a logical character 5:40 - he had deep beliefs in prophecy

I like how pycelle said the situation look very similar to the dance of dragons but I gotta say that rheagar vs aerys was more like daeron ii vs aegon iv

*I* *demand* *a* *video* *about* *the* *timeline* *and* *all* *events* *of* *Robert's* *rebellion*

I’d love an animated film about the tourney at Harrenhall. Rhaegar vs. Ser Arthur Dayne would be great to see visualized

Bro I keep forgetting how stacked the Mad King's Kingsguard was

The only way he can redeem himself as if he protects rhaegar's heir

Rheagar: You swore and oath. It's your fault that my wife (who I swore and oath to) and my children were murdered while I busy getting a divorce and making babies that would threaten my children's right to sit on the throne. How dare you.

Favorite book character ever. Love that dude, I hate that the show didn’t do him complete justice.

Thanks for uploading Mr. whycreate!

“Rhaegar would’ve been the greatest king but his duty stopped him” sound like a certain cough cough jon snow cough cough

1:29 Or, Aerys feared Jaime would be assassinated. Kept him close to protect him. ("Accident in a joust" - is a very convenient method.) Aerys might not have loved Jaime, but rather, knew the North Conspiracy wanted Jamie dead...so Tywin became free to join the rebellion (like he wished to.)

Can you do a video on the Rogue Prince Daemon Targaryen?

absolutely two of my most favorite characters. Thanks for the vid, man.

I’ve recently started watching your videos. Thank you for making them and being so well spoken, that’s a rarity these days. Subbed 😊

Another great video! Thank you

Him joining the Nights Watch would be a great end to his arc.

5:37 "Running off with Lyanna Mormint" Apparently a new house was formed with house Mint and house mormont.

I really enjoy your videos, thank you!

“Forward my mail to the Tower of Joy, thanks dude!”

Well done, ty keep up the good work. We all want to know more, more, more !!!!!!!

Good video! Thank you!

“Don’t worry, incest is nbd.” You’re welcome, just saved you nine minutes.

The thumbnail depiction of Rhaegar looks like a young, beardless Chris Hemsworth with bleached hair.

I always think I've heard everything about asoiaf but then whycreate serves some facts that totally went over my head

I also hope for a more satisfying conclusion to Jaime's story in the books... the foreshadowing is in place for him to be the true Azor Ahai reborn. - it's implied that he and Cersei are actually bastard children of Aerys, after claiming primae noctis with (on? against?) Joanna Lannister (doubly ironic because then Tywin's *only* true child is Tyrion, who is the one of the three Lannister siblings most like Tywin according to their aunt Genna, and Tywin's always ranting about how Tyrion is "no son of mine," because he's too arrogant to see past the surface level when it comes to his own family) - Jamie killed Aerys after learning that the Mad King was planning on destroying the entire city with wildfire after pretending to surrender to Robert's men and letting them all into the city - assuming we can trust the general plot of the show to be correct, Cercei will also stockpile a shit ton of wildfire and plan on blowing up the city after "surrendering" to Dany / Jon -- in essence, the same plan that Aerys had - Azor Ahai tried to forge Lightbringer 3 times, the final time succeeding by quenching in the heart of his true love, Nissa Nissa... Jaime's sword has been forged twice: first as the Stark ancestral Valyrian steel sword Ice, then reforged into Oath Keeper... it will become Lightbringer when he plunges it into the heart of his love, Cercei, to save the people who will never know or recognize him as a hero - related, we also know Stannis' sword is not actually Lightbringer, it's just a glamor used by Melissandre to convince people, because as Aemon points out to Sam Tarly, the true Lightbringer produced an intense level of heat, said to be almost unbearable to be near, and Stannis' sword produces no heat - also, we know that even if Jon Snow is brought back from death by Melissandre, it doesn't necessarily make him the Prince that was Promised any more than Beric Dondarrion is for having been brought back six times by Thoros of Myr - in Mel's viewpoint chapter, we learn that every time she prays for an image of Azor Ahai, she only sees "snow" -- but this could be a deliberate misdirection, since we know "prophesy is a sword without a hilt" and GRRM never likes to make it obvious... perhaps she's really seeing the white cloak of the Kingsguard, Jamie at his ideal best, embodying the ideals of true knighthood

Love your reviews!

Again love the way you narrate

My favorite characters in this whole world.

I felt sorry for what Jaime had to endure as a teenager guarding the Mad King, esentially a hostage condamned to see the king burning people, abusing his queen, etc. His father Tywin, for all he claimed to care for his "golden" son, sacked the capital and ordered the Mountain to kill off the royal family instead of rushing to see if his son was still alive. All his life, people used him--his father for his ambition, the king as a hostage, Cersei for whatever she wanted, all except Tyrion and Brienne, who liked him just the way he was. As for the battle against the undead, well, he was more useful than many others who had both hands, he never ran/froze up like Arya,The Hound,etc, he saved Brienne's life again and Pod's, he was still fighting on the walls when Arya stabbed the Night King. However, I think it was more courageous to show up alone at Winterfell among his enemies, knowing they can kill him on sight , to fight the undead with them, leaving his pregnant sister-lover behind, than to fight the undead. Also, when he was trialed by Daenerys and the Starks, he kept his vow to keep the king's secrets and didn't say that Aerys had planned to burn the city. I don't know why Tyrion and Brienne, who knew, didn't say it, as they swore no vows! Also, the show whitewashed characters like Tyrion and Cersei, but made Jaime darker--he never killed his cousin or forced himself on Cersei in the books and left her when he learned she had cheated on him with Lancel, burning her letter begging him for help. Ironically, he left his army and job to go help Brienne who is leading him into a trap, to Lady Stoneheart. Brienne lied to him that she needs him to treat with the Hound to free Sansa and he went fully knowing he can't win against a fight with the Hound. If he survives Lady Stoneheart, it's obvious he will be upset with Brienne for lieing to him and leading him to potential death, and possibly returning to Cersei for their son Tommen and because, for all her sins, Cersei never sent him to potential death like honorable Brienne. Lady Stoneheart is mad enough to hang 10 year old Podrick for being Tyrion's squire and Brienne, her sworn sword, when she refused to kill Jaime, so logic and facts will not convince her. I wouldn't be surprized if Lady Stoneheart staged her own deranged version of the Red Wedding , forcing Jaime and Brienne to play groom and bride before execution, maybe with some dead Freys hanging as a romantic background--our author loves weddings! :-D

Rhaegar was a narcissist who dishonored his wife because he was obsessed with prophecy.

Keep it coming

From what I watch, Rhaegar wasn’t anything but a sad man that was the last piece to his families destruction. His mother had a horrible life due to her husband and his insanity and that really wasn’t good for anyone.

Looking forward to getting my copy of a feast for crows on Tuesday!!!! 1st Edition too. As much I know I'll enjoy reading the books, I enjoy the hunt for 1st Edition books. ⚔️

If Rhaegar and Lyanna had known then that bearing forth their offspring would be the deposer of The Last Dragon, I wonder what R and L would have very complicatedly felt, especially for the Targaryen baby sister. After GoT ended in my fury, I never thought about this before until just now. Cheers, maker of the video!

5:28 "Press X to doubt"

thank you!

I came to Game of Thrones very late (having just watched the show a few months ago) and I'm now reading the books. What a fascinating story and the characters are fascinating. I didn't like Jaime in the show at all but from reading the books I'm beginning to change my mind a little.

Rhaegar wasn't stopped by his sense of duty, his flagrantly irresponsible attitude by running of with Lyanna is what stopped him from dealing with Aerys.

I love ur voice n the way u narrate...😍🙂👌..

If Jamie wouldve died in battle it wouldve been kinda interesting to see what Tywin would do with Robert, when hes only beloved son gets killed by him, I dont think we would like giving his only daughter to this men..

One KZfaq's smoothest voice! Keep up the good work!

I love your videos!😁👍

Interesting context on Jamie’s background for a non book reader. I never even thought about how crushing it would be for Tywin when the mad king made Jamie Kingsguard thus no children and Tyrion then having to carry on the line. Ace move by the mad king. Denying him the chance to fight at Harrenhal. Or being only 17 when he killed the mad king. And really, why the condescension towards Jamie? Were Robert and Ned going to put him in chains? They were killing him too, they just felt like he was theirs to kill it sounds like Jamie did too in a number of levels.

Jaime story is always so frustrating to me, how can anybody be ignorant enough to call jaime a bad guy and "dishonorable" for killing the mad king and saving half a million people from dragon fire just because it technically broke and oath. Jaime has nothing to apologise for. He was smarter and had more integrity at 17 than most of the adults around him

4:22 is when he you hear what Rhaegar said to Jaimie. Before that the narrator tells the backstory of the Tournament at Harrenhall, the roster of the kings guard and other facts. If you already know that info, then 4:22

This is a really great moment in the books

Rhaeger left Jamie there because he knew that he would do the right thinking Reading something about Jaime told Terrian that when he heard that rhaeger die He cried

I wished they would have talked about this relation on the show. Maybe somehow spark a story from it whereas Jaime was supposed to help the kids but it was too late, etc...Perhaps in the books Jaime could have ploted with Varys to take Young Griff away.

The last thing he said to Jamie was, "Jamie I don't drink much but, I think I'm going to he Trident and get hammered"

why jaime didn't save ellia martel and kids

I always wondered why he heard nothing of Jaime from Harrenhal. It seems like everyone who was important enough showed up to Harrenhal, but I never heard of Jaime being there. Now we know why.

According to the books rhaegar took joy in singing in the poor parts of King's Landing like flea bottom

Rhaegar beating the kingsguard in jousts is definitely them being protective of him.

i hope we get to see more of jamie's guilt about what happened to the targaryen children in the future. To me, that is the most interesting of his failures

i feel like i'm the only one who really loves rhaegar's character. it could just be because i feel bad for him, a lovestruck prince who loved music and was loved by his people, and fucked himself over in the end. he's just such a complex character and there's so much more to be revealed about him that we don't know about.

Rhaegar probably suspected Jaime to be his half brother from Aerys the II and Joanna.

I feel like Rhaegar and Robb Stark would get along pretty well

Hey man if you keep up with one piece you should do similar videos about it! Think that would be nice

Aerys definitely had the best kings guard of all the Targaryen kings.

Can you please get a better microphone lol. Your vids are good, I just wish the audio was a bit more coherent.

Rhaegar was too busy worrying about the white walkers coming back

Assuming we ever get WoW and DOS, I'd love to see how people react if GRRM decides to have Jaime reconcile with Cersei.

This should have been the next series

Ah yes, saying "we shall talk when I see you again." Is a death sentence in Game of Thrones

"Ahhhh...ouch"

So Rhaegar and Geralt from the Whitcher are basically long lost siblings?

I liked that he went back to cercy ...I thought it made sense for his character, one of the only things I liked in season 8

I was such a fan. Now, I'm not confident if grrm would even want to continue the books... So I'm not sure if investing interest would come to fruition 😭😭😭

Man I miss reading the books. Great vid though.

Love is the death of duty.

*Sees Thumbnail* Me: He left him typing?

Author of the video forgot the valonqar prophecy. Jamie will die in the books exactly as he did in the series -- with his hands on Cercei's throat.

I think that in the books, Jaime will kill Cersei,who will probably go mad and try to do what Aerys had tried all those years ago. It also fits with the valonquar prophecy since Jaime is tounger than Cersei. I also think that somewhere along the way Jaime might save Jon Snow's life,or realize tht he is Rhaegar's son, since Rhaegar's last words to him bid him to protect his children, and Jaime still feels awful for failing Rhaenys and Aegon.

The secret that all targeryens live to serve is about the night king... Even rhaegar ready to Sacrcificed everything just to have the prophecy (jon)

I like Mr Jamie Lannister no matter wat. He had a good hrt

I'm just trying to figure out why book Varys was poking the bear, and did a 180 when it came to Dany.

Varys is a Blackfyre, or, at the least, he is working with the Blackfyres.