Maybe the real Alpha Legion was the friends we made along the way.

I applied for a job using the name alpharius. I waited for them to call for Alpharius. When they did 6 guys stood up in the lobby.

The Emperor is actually alive, building a new Imperium somewhere hidden. While Alpharius and Omegon are cosplaying him on the Throne.

Everyone is Alpharius. You, me, that chair over there

Omegon was secretly just a space marine librarian mind-melding with Alpharius and the real Omegon is actually Guiliman!

I wonder if there's Alpha Legion splinter cells were they all claim to Omegon.

I love that Alpharius/Omegon are the embodiment of the “Just as Planned” meme. But as an Eldar player since 2nd Edition, I really have to lament that “killing an Avatar of Khaine in single combat” is now sadly really easy, in the fluff, and on the table. ... Basically any generic space marine Veteran/Terminator/Captain with a thunder hammer & storm shield can do it if they get the charge. I think our dead Bloody-Handed God REALLY needs to spend some time bulking up in the Craftworld gyms before 9th Edition. Because he’s possibly the weakest >200pt character in 40K.

While Alpharius and Omegon did disguise themselves on a regular basis, other Primarchs were able to see through the disguise, even if not necessarily immediately. So if Orar was Omegon in disguise, Guilliman would likely eventually recognize him as Omegon. So when Guilliman slew Omegon, he’s almost certainly correct. But perhaps the slaying of Omegon is the cover story concocted by Omegon and Guilliman and shortly after, Orar appears.

My theory: They're Alpha Legionaries trolling the Smurfs here and there while pretending to be Smurfs. Orar is Omegon and his tomb is a mancave where he plays Vostroyan Strip Poker with Tzeetch.

"Never trust a traitor not even one you create" Baron Harkonnen

"Hey battlebro, are you sure that maniac over there butchering everybody and skinning enemies for leisure with his talons is loyal? "Shhh...don't call him a maniac. We like to call him an honorary member."

"calgar even slaying an avatar of kain in single combat"

I hope Omegeon is still loyal and is just waiting for the right time to strike...

Every chapter that uses the omega heraldry is secretly an alpha legion successor. Change my mind.

There are 3 heads of the Hydra. I’m still thinking they were Triplets. Change my mind.

The Ultramarines were the Alpha Legion all along ;)

I'm a simple man. I see Alpha Legion lore, I hit like.

Plot twist: Omegon was the person Horus immolated aboard the Vengeful Spirit when he tried to sneakily kill him, after mortally wounding Emps. Which is the real reason why Emps took Horus seriously!

I’ve always liked the idea of a Omega Legion that returns as a loyalist chapter where as the Alpha legion is a traitor legion.

Alpharius and Omegon where always loyal, The emperor knew future events, and tasked them to infiltrate the traitors and strike from within when he returns.

I like the idea that Guilliman 'killed' Omegon by allowing his brother to return to the Imperial fold with a new identity, leading a new Successor Chapter. That said, the evidence for it seems pretty lacking.

Brilliant researching and the conclusion is..."Orar" could *still* be Omegon. As a student of history, I like the scenario that Omegon himself entered the Ultramarines after the Horus Heresy, rapidly rose through the ranks (as a Primarch should) and then was unexpectedly killed in combat and remembered under the assumed name of "Orar."

Commencing Alpharius jokes in 3... 2... 1...

I'm so glad you had someone as eloquent and classy as Oculus to be the voice of Omegon. Thanks and good work!

An interesting idea I had was if Sanguinius could become a god of the warp, since all of the blood angels and their successor chapters falling to that pesky Black Rage, could enough Blood Angels die under the effects of the Black Rage that the best primarch returns as a god?

Calgar flexing at killing an avatar, yet in game my killer kanz love kicking my oponents avatar to death.

Another great video as always!

Alpha legion gives me a headache.

I think this is my favourite theory you've published ever

A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.

The Emperor is actually Alpharius

The Alpha Legion was an Ultramarines cloning project, set up by the Emperor, that's why Guilliman and Alpharius were so close... Lol Could be, but no, jokes aside. Even if it was Omegon who was Orar or Orar never existed, he could have just gone to Rob and asked forgiveness or said he was switching sides and just been rolled into the Ultramarines. Without so much as an issue, as did at least one loyalist member of the Iron Warriors and his Grand Battalion. So, even if they are Alpha Legion bois, it doesn't really change a hell of a lot. Both the Alpha Legion and Ultramarines were all about flexibility and mutable tactics.

Glad you updated this theory.

Another great instalment!

To think that the Sons of Orar would some day betray the Imperium is sheer paranoia! :)

Omegon - the most mistreated name of a Primach of the all

@40k Theories - Nice theory - nicely researched in the background, but not tenable because you left out the white dwarf where they were first introduced. (thumbs up)

*The Lost Sons Of Omegon? - 40K Theories* This epic video completely fits with my feelings about my favorite Legion. That they were the prototype Primaris Marines (Improved Black Op Marines) created by the Emperor himself rather than Caul's hidden Primaris production. 'Alpha and Omega' meaning the beginning AND the end! More effective per Marine than any other and smarter too, Even the War Master would be humiliated by their skills and they always went for less killing and less losses to achieve success starting our even as hidden security at Terra to maintain order when unknown rebellions appeared before Alpharius turns up. When put together with The False Origins Of Alpharius - 40K Theories one gets a better picture of why things are why they are. Omegon being more pro Emperor having been raised with him and Alpharius pro War Master for his time with Horus. Also watch these; (40 Facts and Lore about Alpharius Warhammer 40k and The False Origins Of Alpharius - 40K Theories 40k Stories - Legions: The Alpha Legion The Fate Of Omegon - 40K Theories The Sons Of Omegon - 40K Theories-) It is incredible because DESPITE the confusion and lack of certainty ALL potential connections of the Alphas are limited to, the Emperor perhaps HIMSELF raising Omegon vs Alpharius's friendship to Horus and the love hate relationship to Gullimans Ultramarines AND THE GREY KNIGHTS! Not only that but the fact that The Alphas Marines like the Primaris are SUPERIOR and larger than the others but their earlier superiority being focused on genius and flexibility over purely technical and the physical and being trained as SQUADS not individuals. I keep seeing parallels with Isaac Asimov's secret hidden 2nd foundation, there to take over if the first (equivalent to Ultramarines) failed. I increasingly find the other Space Marines to be rather stupid and boring and limited TOOLS! See 'Dog Brain Dorn' lecturing Alpharius on 99% perfection not being good enough after HIS total disasters like 'The Cage'. With idiot Primarchs of power but zero insight the Empire was in trouble. The Alphas have everything in one diluted force! The Alphas seem to feel this way too and have no interest in their brain dead battle brothers. The Emperor fucked up again but knew it. Hence the Grey Knights and the Alphas and Ultramarines! The more I know the more I love them. What a potential they have. I believe the expression 'Omega' points to their being the last legion (XXth). While 'Alpha' pointing to their being the FIRST of the NEO Marines (think Primaris)! We need to see the rational pro evolution, since and knowledge Ultramarines team up with the equally rational Alphas. Both despise the rot of the Present religious nut job Empire, little better than Chaos or the Dark Eldar at times. Both Legions believe in rational co operation with Xenos (resurrecting Gulliman) and of returning to an evolving rational Galaxy sharing the Emperors own hatred of religious insanity, whether loyalist or Chaos. Knowing how the Eldar created Slaanesh and the Humans insanity and cruelty fed Chaos , I believe both Legions have already co operated, consciously or not on numerous unknown occasions even while fighting each other in other areas. Therefor it is not surprising that NOTHING since Kathleen Kennedy's abortion of Star Wars has pissed me off so much as seeing the horrible tendency of recent GW stories attempting to kill the variety and contradictions that make up the Warhammer 40,000 Universe. In both the Space Marines AND Chaos. Nothing makes me so angry as seeing DEMON PRINCE Alphas or Nurgle etc mutations. Sure some of the lost renegades perhaps but NOT of the actual still functioning Alphas who are disciplined and organized, a central part of their very character. We do not want simplistic Chaos vs Simplistic Space Marines. It is the same with the Primaris. The danger is the loss of all that LORE and creativity to push toys over story. We who are thinking consumers fear another intellectual abortion like the Age OF SHITMIRE; OR Kennedy's vs Lucas Star Wars or the vile Chibnalls Dr Who abortion vs the genius of RTD's NU Dr Who in 2005 to 2009 with Ecclestone and Tennent. Stopped because the show offended both Tony Blair (the model for Simm's excellent Master' as UK PM sociopath) and David Cameron by criticizing the UK's growing police state and MSM brainwashing. So the question is bigger than just taste and aesthetics. It is a question of the death of creativity and culture that nurtures and inspires us all replaced with marketing, re boots and 'narratives'. We want THOUGHTFUL exciting stories! The Alphas are very interesting, intelligent and unique. Please don't turn them into mutant 'Stupids' please Games Workshop! Variety IS the spice of life.

Hello fellow Alphariusses, I am also Alpharius.

Alpharius and Omegon were obsessed with complexity, subterfuge and most often underlooked, irony.

Knowing how much information is lost, buried, sealed, mistakes, etc of the Imperium. It's sometimes best to leave sleeping dogs lay.

I also wonder if there is a third brother due to the 3 headed hydra thing.. Excellent video, thank you.

I like the idea that Roboute found out or was convinced of omegons loyalty and knew he wouldn't be widely accepted and with his existence being fairly unknown that he would better serve the imperium from the shadows and maybe in control of this legion or another possibly. So helped him fake his death or something of the sort.

You could post a video on Alpha legion's choice of standard issue underwear and I'd still watch it.

Calgar killed a avatar of Kaine, yeh so has everyone at this point

I love this entire thread of theories. What the Alpha Legion did or did not do is so in ticing because they're so sneaky. As it is, Malcador's messing around is always a good pretext for considering heretic legions rejoining their loyalist brothers under different names. Omegon's grey armor reminds me of the Sigilite's knights errant colors.

It would fit the mythology if Alpharius joined/infiltrated the traitors and Omegon is still working/fighting for the Imperium. Mind that exactly half the legions joined chaos, while the other half stayed loyal - a metaphor that in every human being, good and evil are ever fighting, but are in balance.

Sons of the Hydra detailed the best (and only, that I know of) loyalist Alpha Legion story to date.

The Alpha Legion is a prime example of a self-fulfilling prophecy in action.

Can't imagine a hidden Primarch infiltrating the Ultras and rising to captain without Guiliman noticing! The Primarchs can sense each other. Of course he could have been in on it, giving Omegon sanctuary as it were, whilst claiming that he'd 'killed' him. That would be true in a sense - Bob being involved in the 'death' of the old identity. Guiliman and Dorn had done something similar before in absorbing the legionaries of the 2nd and 11th when their Primarchs were .... [whatever happened to them].

Here is something to theorize, would the HULK comic book character become an Ork demigod in 40k

Hit four times by the Logan bot. This video must be good!

I am kinda frustrated at how underused the alpha legion is underused right now in the lore, considering that they "betrayed" the emperor because of what the Kabal said to them. I hope there are still some loyal alphas left who fight for the empire

Power Armor voice suits Oculus quite well.

I love this, and it would so perfectly fit the 20th. I hope it becomes cannon.

It seems that ppl rarely consider that maybe neither Alpharius nor Omegon are dead? Or both?

Another point against Orar being Omegon is (if i'm right) that chapters are supposed to send a fraction of their genetic stock to Terra for conservation and purity check. Meaning that at some point the magos biologis in check may have realize that it's not Ultramarines genetic origin (may not be able to determine which original legion, but at least saying it's not Ultramarine). And to be fair with that theory, I also said supposed, because some chapters have no problem to middle finger the administratum laws, should they found them not fitting their views.

"Many other successor chapters also feature the Omega" Well, yeah! Where do you think the rest of the Alpha legion disappeared to? ;)

I had a character in Black Crusade who was an Alpha Legionaire, and was on a quest to recover Alpharius' weapon, the Pale Spear. The GM ended up going with it being split into pieces to give me a little scavenger hunt, and, since all the Primarchs had latent, if weak, Psychic Powers, it seemed that the Alpha Legion all going "I am Alpharius" wasn't quite a lie, as his own remnants of his Psychic Presence basically possessed each Legionaire, and as I gathered more pieces of the Pale Spear I'd become more and more like the Primarch. It was a really cool idea, and I rather like it

Going through it I suppose it would make sense for Alpharius to go one way, and Omegon the other way. Even if it is sort of meh to me. Like Alpharius wouldn’t know the hand of his brother in events. I prefer to think they play these games against each other so that they can move in two separate directions apparently to the prognosticators and powers. All the while playing a greater game together. Two hands moving as one, though not through apparent observation. A magicians trick.

The whole thing of the legion is that though they have many faces, they are one beneath. It would seem weird, that the twins would actually turn on each other. Or that they could fool each other for long. I would love a chapter of Alfa Legion operatives however.

I think the Cabal was either lying bc they were unknowingly a Chaos ring or were afraid of a second ascendency of Humanity.

I would not be surprised if Omegon was actually one of the High Lords of Terra right now.

One problem with this idea. It is mentioned at one point that the two brother primarchs had switched places with each other. Meaning the Omegon could actually be Alfarius in this case (please excuse spelling of names), and the one who died during the heresy being Omegon.

Seems like Omegon probably just faked his death again and didn’t order his chapter to defend his tomb because they had more important things to do, like undermine the Imperium from within. It’d be cool if there’s a showdown between the secret humanity-dooming traitor Omegon and secret loyalist Alpharius before the end.

Maybe Orar and subsequent chapter masters are Omergon under a new name each time? Be sweet if he was. :)

Ngl it would make sense if the two missing primarchs weren't actually missing but were alpharius and omegon and that's why two legions are missing alongside 2 primarchs.

Nice

Now this makes me wonder if the iron snakes are also sons of Omegon

great video, however it is abundantly clear *I* am Alpharius

What if...Omegon was secretly inducted into the Grey Knights? Highly unlikely but could be a cool twist.

Is there a source for that art that appears of the aftermath of the assassination attempt that appears around 7:30?

I think the notion of missing records makes no sense in most cases, because it requires that multiple sources separated by light years of space all lose the information. With respect to Orar, this requires the Ultramarines central records on Macragge, the Sons of Orar themselves, the records of any Ultramarine fleets Orar was stationed on, the records of any allied Space Marine Chapters and their fleets, and any records held in Sector or Terran hands, all somehow manage to have information on Orar disappear. Absent specific action being taken to destroy these records it seems unlikely. This same problem occurs in many 40k contexts. I think the writers/editors, in their desire to create mystery, haven't really thought through the scale of data destruction required.

how would Omegan of been able to deceive Alpharius? they shared the same soul what would does the other should know about

Well, the Silver Skulls are possibly Loyalist Iron Warriors, so it's possible that the Sons of Orar are Loyalist Alpha Legion. | 3:00 - (monotone) All hail the Ultrasmurfs.

“I am Alpharius.” “I am Alpharius.” “I am Alpharius.” *”I AM OMEGON!! AND I SERVE THE EMPEROR!!!”*

What if Omegon after becoming completely disillusioned with the heresy and not wanting his loyal sons who were also tricked hunted down like dogs infiltrated loyalist Imperium forces and founded several successor chapters with loyal alpha legionnaires as the primary members. This way the legion could still carry on without having to worry about being treated adversely by the Imperium.

now that Guilliman is back. We can see if Orar is actually true or not

Wouldn't it be great if every chapter that uses the Omega icon are secretly members of the loyalist Alpha Legion. With Omegon himself now posing as one of the Custodes that now protect Guilluman or one of the Custodes that guards the Emperor. Having his "proxy" chapter legions acquire battle honors as redemption in order to prove their loyalty enough for Omegon to unmask himself to Guilluman.

How could a chapter think they are not blood angels gene stock when thirsting for blood and visions of sanguinius?

Hello brothers Alphariusi.

Could the twin primarchs be perpetuals? Seems pretty sketch that, if Orar was Omegon, he would just die in some random combat. Sounds like a set up to me. Having primarchs that would use their perpetual state to their advantage by "faking" their death would be very advantageous. Also it seems like Big E liked to do things in pairs with overlapping traits and similar quirks for primarchs. Well, for the most part. Vulcan can't be the only perpetual primarch, right?

The Sons of Orar read them though in the path of the Eldar novel by gav torph

Hope Omegon will resurface one day and join the imperium.

added to head canon.

"I can't say".....

Would Omegon be considered a missing Primarch? If not, then there would have been 21 Primarchs.

Hydra dominatus my brother's!

Dorn could distinguish Alpharius from his sons with ease. I'm sure the Guilliman could as well. That being said, you never know with the Alpha Legion.

Oi....that hackbot is here

If in doubt, I, you, and everyone is Alpharius...

Called it

Plot twist. Primaris marines are just Loyal Alfalegion dudes. XD

You'd think since the Astartes look like their gene fathers that you could look at them and maybe tell what genealogy they came from

I thought Primarchs could sense each other near by.

Raveul Avida never worked with the whit scars because he became the first Supreme grand master of the Grey Knights and was renamed Ianius later Janus after Malcador bound a shard of Magnus the red to him.

Omegon is the best. He's a straight up loyalist pretending to be a traitor, the OPPOSITE of his legion. My head canon is that the entire legion is entirely loyal, and they're just waiting for the perfect time to strike.

Wouldn't Dorn know that he wasn't fighting his brother?

My Sons.

I am Alpharius