another superb video mike and a brilliant clue with the small wormdrive comb music box on the board :)

@@gimble8638 yeah they're great and not too well know, these use real space age materials! I hadn't run into them yet and it was basically love at first ''sight''/Sound lol

yeahi ran into them around 15yrs ago (through my work not as a consumer or i probably wouldnt even know they exist tbh lol), and like everything they wernt all they could be to begin with, but came on leaps and bounds since dyna at first (the same people who make sound proofing,dynamat in cars and stuff as accoustics is their game altho its usually killing it lol) and then dayton, dayton are perhaps the best known in general tbh, they defy physics to a degree and were always destined to be a game changer eventually, last 5yrs or so they have especially altho those ones in the shop will be some really recent expensive development on them no doubt :)

@@gimble8638 These are by Amina and made in the UK where the company resides. it's amazing how light the panels are yet how incredibly stiff they are too. If you have a bathroom or hallway or anywhere really where you want sound but no speaker fits or want to be seen, this is the thing for you. It'll easily fit behind a cook-top and the best thing is you can wipe them down no issue and you never have to see them if you don't want to :p

yeah, a friend of mine was doing up his bathroom a few year back and asked me my recommendation for ceiling speakers, i told him 2 exciters back of the ceiling pasterboard (daytons) would do it, he thought i was speaking crap because they are so small, but they blew him away lol :) of course tho you are back to needing an amplifier, where obviously if your a B&O guy you dont want that extra hassle and wiring, fine in the living room obv as you can house the amp somewhere, but not so much in hallway etc and said mate had bose wired thru his house so it was more a question of which drivers to use as speaker cables were ran there already

It's not just a concept, it actually works and you can buy it right now. Also fully works with a bunch of B&O products :D

@@Mikipedia Sorry, I am french and we use word concept as product also in france.

@@pascalkrzeminski7341 pas de problème, idem ici, mais ce n'est pas exclusivement utilisé de la même manière. That took me a while and took me back to school lol. My Spanish is slightly better so now I go from English to Spanish back to French in my mind lol

not aminas concept per say but yeah, as for B&O they are always aware of what.s goiing on (and mostly as we all know are ahead of the game) there will be a reason why they havn't, or havn't yet, im guessing and it is only a guess and purely my own speculation, is that there isn't much to exciters to expand on, even existing ones hardly differ in sound tbh regardless of the cost, those amina's are obv premium and the amp along with them makes it a far neater/easier to use/install product but as for sound i can guarantee you cheap £20 each daytons thru a conventional amp will be close if not indistinguishable and there lies the real problem for B&O because it will be very difficult to improve "vastly" to justify being in the range (for the money they'd require), there is nothing to see so there goes the B&O design and build quality tax out the window too, also B&O like as far as possible to avoid any variable like the plague with their own product (even the spacing of dwangs (battons/studs) in a wall can cause slight differences in sound) , but that's just me, there will be some reason i.'m sure good reason and who knows they might in the future if they find a way to tweak it to really diferentiate and stand out somehow :)

I guess it's very hard to sell something you can't necessarily see, but I agree that it's properly cool :D

Thanks :)

Ja dat heeft hij, het is een LG c9 77inch tv op een b&o "onderstel" Volgens de beschrijving heeft hij atmos maar de tv kan maar 5.1 of 7.1 doen. Dus ik denk dat je een externe module ervoor nodig bent

met een omweg doet atmos het ook via een apple tv en het geluid is dan echt extra spectaculair, zo heb ik hem zelf thuis opgezet en ben echt verliefd op hoe het klinkt :p Maak er binnenkort wel een video over :D bedank voor de comments en views!

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yes, you have the option to have the motion or not. so you can have it open all the time if you like :)

the screen is on before the speaker full set, the whole motion only take ~20 seconds but the screen is on after 5 or so. If it's something important to see you can always record it internally and/or rewind it.

Blake Mills, that song is called ''Heart of mine'' and I think he performed it on Conan' show. Another song of his/theirs I like is called ''Winter Song''. Hope that answers it? :D

several reasons really, I don't work for them but I can think of a fair few limiting factors. With planar magnetic drives they tend to produce the exact same sound forwards as backwards so unless you put them in the middle of the room and sit around your speakers, that will cause an issue with room resonance. When you look at other brands using this tech, they advise you to put these around 1.5 meter/5 feet away from any walls(and the ususally have a bunch of sound deadning behind it). Non of this is an issue with how B&O does it. Also with planar magnetic driver there can be an issue with longevity, they're much more sensitive to environmental conditions, by that I mean just imagine what would happen if you put them in a sigarroom(B&O tests for this) with B&O the speakers would just stink but sound would be unaffected. With planar magnetic the film in between would get tar and nicotine stain etc, which effectively makes the film heavier and stickier which will impact sound tremendously over time. And how to you clean that in between the metal ''cages''? it's a specialised job, with B&O you just takes a cloth to it and you're good to go. There are advantages to either way of doing things, and the reasons I mentioned are just a few of why not, I think B&O does a great job with what they use :)

@@Mikipedia I understand B&O QA testing and their infamous 'smokers test'. I own a pair of Martin Logan ESL 9 (my complete system has a retail price similar to a pair of beolab 50) I've also owned B&O products in the past. Yes owning any type of planar speaker whether ribbon or charged stator requires cleaning maintenance but their target customer base mostly have rather clean homes. What I'm trying to get at is there is lots of tech available that can be blended with B&O innovation to produce a class leading product. I think their R&D team is stuck in ways of old thinking.

@@AlioConsult Iam not so sure as I think the beolab 50's are leading in their class as are the beolab 90's. The beolab 50's are better imo than the B&W counterpart and also the martin logan set i tested against them at a similar total price and with the martin logan ones I ran in to the positioning issue obviously. A lot of people I know with B&O are either smokers or sigaar smokers, I'd say it's about 45-55 split. that specific tech has been around for a while, atleast the 70's iirc. So they probably looked at it and found different ways to complete the mission they were after, which includes longevity. Only two of the people I know are ever really comfortable with cleaning their speaker membranes, the rest would just refuse so a ''cleaning schedule'' would be out of the question or they would have to have people come over to do it. The beolab 50 and 90 are very trick speaker and can make your room disappear , regardless of positioning and same goes for stereo imaging. I can sit anywhere and create a preset where stereo would be perfect for just that spot and it wouldn't even matter if its 3-4 meters outside of the classic sweetspot. With B&O the speaker/sound design team never lost it, i wouldn't necessarily disagree if you had said something about the external design/looks :p bl 50's and 90's look good to me, but other designs haven't been super strong like they used to to me ie the edge. But soundwise, they are amazing both in sound and capabilities to shift sound etc. It's not exactly like the use cheap parts either. if you can, listen to some beolab 50's or 90's!!! bucket list speakers :D

The Eclipse is available too :p

You mean an LG with a tacked on sound bar . I’ll pass thx.

@@flappospammo of course you would lol

Do you work for B&O? I see you always commenting on everything they do, what do you have to do with it?

Flappo

but it's not ''suffering'' the price will go down with the panel cost lowering and it's also compatible with the new CX line and the line of tv's aafter that.

it's so much more than that, you can connect over 20 speakers to it at the same time and drive them all and set roles for them and there literally isn't a tv this size that can move out of the way. and that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what else it all does.

Mikipedia I’m sure it’s an excellent product, and the motorized stand is cool as hell. I just think anyone with that kind of budget would be better off spending $5,000 on an LG TV and the remaining $20,000 on a speaker system.

Where are you located? It's no where near that expensive here even for a 77'' version. With today's conversion rate it's about 17 grand USD here including 21% sales tax and installation.

Mikipedia Hmm... B&O site says $19,400 USD for the 77” version. Must be older info or something?

@@Noah-Lach if you're in the USA you get screwed anyway with a 30% import tax on B&O gear, because the gouvernment has ''reasons'' Also the price is based on the initial launch price of said panels. So if the LG advisory price drops B&O will follow suit they said, or you can still pick an even cheaper C9 panel. Prices are mostly negotiable at B&O anyway or what others do is buy it in the UK/Europe and ship it to the USA themselves.

Not really no, unless you absolutely, 100%, do not care how any tv sounds and or looks like.

Well it is . No curtains , no vision clear , no imagination at all. I’d buy a big Sony , a nice av amp and some decent speakers and still have enough dough left over for an Apple TV etc etc . T

@@flappospammo implying you haven't lol

It wasn't a review, it was mostly a sound test and it passed with flying colours. But I can make a follow up if you like as I have one at home now :)

@@Mikipedia Sorry I read "review" in your description: Today I can show you the Worlds First in depth Sound Test and Review.... It's ok...not a big deal! I was just saying that the video is cool but cost nothing to show a little more of the product. How's the many, is it smart TV?, what connectivity ports it has...etc! Have a good one!

@@Mikipedia haha, I’m glad I’m not the only one. I went in to my local shop to change my Moment (awful product) and ended up ordering a pair of Beolab 28’s and an 83” Harmony 😬 Thankfully I have decent B&O gear to trade in