My wife’s boyfriend swears by low scope mounts. I’m a 1.70 man myself but to each their own

pls do a review soon

Hopefully you won't have to wait too long for that 😉

​@@CMMGy'all declared war on my wallet

FightLite was doing this with their SCR for years.

You have a strange definition of "innovation" since FightLite had this in - what - 2017? And Sig earlier this year.

@@OFFICIALUND with a side charging handle and in so many calibers?

@@HarleyWood23 Calibers in every iteration of AR have been done long ago. And there’s a dozen options for side charging uppers out there (avoid buying from Gibbz Arms….ask me how I know).

@@OFFICIALUND​​⁠that didn’t answer the question. I’ll help you out. Sig and FightLite have not produced one that combines side-charging, commie-grip-compliant, that’s also available in so many calibers.

You can get both top folding and side folding stocks for the 870 already. The top folder might not play well with optics or even iron sights, though.

Folding stocks are illegal in ban states

Noted!

Great if you’re in Commie states.

Not yet, but looking at it.

@CMMG you guy are awesome for this. TY. Just a heads up. NYC guidelines are stricter than the rest of NYS. If you take a look at the Fightlite SCR with the non-threaded barrel, you have a NYC compliant rifle as long as you have a 5 rd mag, which is therefore compliant for all of NYS, and probably nationwide. And just an idea, 5.7x28 in a 16" non-threaded barrel wouldn't kick, IJS.

That would be awesome

@@rustymcmartin it seems there is a market there that people want but do not go down because of the Mini's lack of mag compatibility.

scorpion evo style are fine.

Not yet, but we are looking into options for those locations.

it's only on the pin and weld versions. Get the 16" barrels and you can put whatever muzzle device on them you'd like.

YT doesn't allow us to put pricing. They will be on our website early next week.

We'd love to have the 3 outlying states included in being able to purchase. We'll keep working on engineering new stuff while also keeping up the fight against these restrictions.

@@CMMG It's greatly appreciated, the work you guys do is awesome.

sounds like something we should work on 😉

It will be a complete lower with the ZEROED trigger and the stock. But yes!

You know us, we like giving as many caliber options as possible 😉

Trust us, we are trying. Unfortunately the 🤬gun grabbers like making ignorant "laws" faster than we can make firearms to skirt them. Do they even know what a barrel shroud is? lol

@@CMMG probably not, but somebody must of whispered in their ear cuz they included it in their list of banned items for rifles😢. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to respond and for making firearms that try to find a way around the system. We in the banned states attentively await the results of your ingenuity. Be blessed.

Explain to me what a barrel shroud is? Honestly they are supposedly illegal in my state but no one can explain to me what that is.

@@thelastminuteman7513 That's kind of what we are bantering about here. It's an ambiguous term that gun controllers use and can't define. In this case, they'll say that our handguard is a barrel shroud. They pretty much want them all to be like traditional rifle stocks with barrels bedded into them, and not be surrounded (shrouded).

@@thelastminuteman7513 piggybacking off CMMG, the logic ban states are using is that any hand guard that covers the top of the barrel allows the shooter to hold the rifle in a tactical way (such as a C clamp hold) or protects the shooter from being burnt while holding it when the barrel gets too hot during rapid fire, which to them rapid fire would only happen in a scenario of criminal intent, like a mass shooting. So, their logic is if you remove all the accessories that make rifles more stable (adjustable buttstock and barrel shroud/hand guard), easier to fire (pistol grip, muzzle break) and less detectable (flash hider, silencer), while also limiting magazine capacities, active shooters are left with rifles that would be less effective in the criminal act of a mass shooting, therefore making mass shootings less likely to occur. Not saying this logic tracks, just explaining how my state, Illinois, explained what a barrel shroud is and why it needed to be banned with the rest of the features.

Unfortunately WA is one of the three it isn't. We'll keep trying!

Why is it not legal

@@NOLES-kl4ft ask the geniuses that pass these restrictive laws. It's really hard to keep up with their ignorance at times. Wish we didn't have to.

or just providing people in current ban states with an option

Guess that depends on how it's mounted. There are a lot of options. If it's rail mounted, the ejection port on this and other DISSENT uppers would be a bit lower than traditional ejection ports in correlation to the rail height (but not by a ton).

Who's CNNG, bruh?

No. Those require the buffer tube to operate. The DISSENT is compact action that's all in the upper allowing for this type of stock to be used.

Not really. Fightlites scr was out long before regulator.

Likely because Remington has a bit larger of a market share in the civilian world, so there is a bit more support for 870 accessories like stocks. Or our engineers could have just flipped a coin 😉

@@CMMG that makes sense.

If you know us at all, we'd say there's a high likelihood. 😉

@@CMMG any round about time frame when we’ll find out about that?

Just pre ordered my BR4 in 5.56. What would you suggest as the best low mount optics for the BR4?

@@4foxsake571 That's really subjective, and dependent on use. A good LPVO in the 1-6ish range would be great for this. Depending on who makes that, low or medium rings may be needed for proper clearance of the ocular lens. Look for rings that will put the center of your scope at around 1-1.25" and you should be good. Those measurements are usually listed in the ring's specs.

@@4foxsake571 we cannot commit to any timeline, but let's just say we are hoping by end of year.

did you watch the video? 😉

@@CMMG yes I missed that part and I looked it up on the website thank you!

@@NadJebrone had to mess with you a bit. Thanks for watching!

I think it's $1800 which is pretty typical for CMMG rifles. They seem to be worth the money. A lot better then Sigs $3k Spear "ranch" rifle.

Almost 9 minute video and maybe 5 seconds talking about suppressor attachment. Did we watch the same video?

Yeah, unfortunately NY is one of the 3 outliers still for this to be legal in. We are still looking at more options to get in there though. Keep up the fight!

It doesn't look good without a standard capacity (30rd) mag either but you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.

How? It gives people in certain states the ability to buy the rifle, and in most cases they're able to still change it to the original design if it's necessary, laws change, or they move to another state.

It's perfectly fine to publicly admit that you are totally ignorant of the amount of time it takes to bring a product like this to the market.

If I were a betting man I would say Sig copied it from CMMG!!! Just ask Kevin Brittingham. My grandpa always said "You can't fix stupid" ......STUPID!!!

So SIG invented the Cali compliant MSR??? You ignant son. That lower / FCG probably took years to develop / test. You can’t just shit out a copy. There are these things called patents. Go back into a cave, learn more, then come back out again and you can rejoin modern society.

I think we found the Sig Fanboi.