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So i pay triple times a console budget to play broken ports of my favorite games and also having to deal with drivers, windows issues, and having to upgrade every two years. That sounds great, totally nothing wrong with that what so ever.

Sadly it is not the PC platform that's the problem. It is the companies and developers that are purposely making it look awful by overpricing the parts and making some games not run to its full potential.

I will say as of right now the PC gaming experience is only for the enthusiast level of gamers, because if you're casual there's is no reason you should be dropping 1000 dollars on a machine when you really don't have to unless you just got money to throw around like that.

Too many Launchers can be so frustrating. A sale here, a bonus pre-order there, a free one over there... 😆

I'm looking at going back to the couch than sitting down at a desk for long gaming sessions. Mainly play single player story driven stuff. My next build will be connected to my 65 inch lg c2 with a corsair laptop with wireless keyboard and mouse combo.

I just bought a nhd15s because my 5900x was doing 85c while playing and I have spent all day troubleshooting that issue, those are the things you don't have to worry about with consoles.

Even if you match the specs on consoles you wont have the same performance because of optimization you have to go above console specs for that and thats not cheap anymore

I'm gonna sell my newly built PC while there's demand for it, no point in having subpar experience on a machine 4 times more expensive than a PS5.

I'm really happy you mentioned bad ports, I would really like to know what kind of bad ports to avoid, so it would be nice to have a video reassuring which ones are worth the time and which aren't

I used to be a PC gamer a long time ago. I didn't have much money after that, so switched to PS4, despite I had heard a lot about "huge prices on games". But years later, I have 120+ games in my library, and I've spent just 20% more than it is on PC. Just a year ago I've got a new job, more income etc, so I've thought - let's move on to "true gaming" on PC. I have never been so wrong... When I configured the PC (in the PC configurator site) I've dreamed about, I was shocked. 7800x3d + 4080 + quality other parts (but not top tier) ~ $3.000 And this PC isn't possible to handle everything in 4K 60FPS on Ultra. I have to manage my settings 🤦 And I'm not a teenager anymore with unlimited time to play. I have 2 hours per day at MAX. $3.000 for 2 hours playing. Seems like I have to wait for the next gen to make the previous one affordable.

This is one of the best arguments regarding PC gaming. It's the superior way,but at the same time the most expensive one. With these prices especially the gpu ones,it is even harder not to consider going for the consoles. We live in disturbing and sad times...

Where do you get your shirts from? Love your videos btw, very helpful information! 😊

Congratulations on 6k subscribers! Keep doing what you do! You are the most loyal and honest person Im subscribed for tech youtubers! I haven't watched much but I have been busy with my blue screen errors! I am getting replaced my new motherboard!

Thanks for covering this topic. It was an honest, thoughtful breakdown on some of the barriers for entry into PC gaming.

One thing I have been noticing on my Ps5 vs my 7900xt PC- way less cheating on console. MW2 with crossplay off is actually pretty sweet because of this, and that the playing field is basically level (unless you play on a PS4). Still get that sweet 120fps too.

The thing about console is just boot it up, sit on a couch and relax and play for half an hour. That feeling just doesn’t happen for me in pc. I dont care about frames, just run my game smooth

If a $500-$1000+ pc is worse than a $400 console(ps5) then how is pc better? Wouldn’t just a certain tier of pc be better like high end PCs instead of PCs as a whole because console is better than all low end and most mid end PCs? Also the average pc gamer setup is around $1000 or less price point so that makes consoles better than most PCs out there so shouldn’t console be better overall since it’s better than most PCs?

I've always had and used deskop PCs for myself. And it really pisses me off how expensive the parts have become. It's completely unjustified. All these PC parts cost a few dollars to actually produce in the factories. But they sell for hundreds and thousands just because of the " innovation and idea " . So we're not paying for the production effort put into making a CPU or GPU or SSD or Motherboard or RAM. We're paying hundreds and thousands only for buying an " idea " on a small microchip which costs only a few dollars to actually make. It's complete insanity really, but the whole world is pretty much nowadays.

my golden rule for unoptimised games is ignore them on launch dates and past 6 months forward they are optimised and 15 or more dollar cheaper :D

The biggest thing that I have noticed about pc gamers is that every pc gamer thinks that you need to max out every graphics setting. There isn’t always a need to play on ultra with anti aliasing maxed out. Games don’t look much better between ultra and high graphics settings. You get a huge fps increase just from playing games on high graphics. I’ve been gaming on pc since 2017 when I built my first computer with a homie of mine. I still own a console for sports games. I know to a lot of people sports games don’t matter but unfortunately if you enjoy sports games you are forced to play on console. 2K and madden on pc are not even the current gen version of the game it’s last generation(ps4 and Xbox one) I feel like I get the best of both. If I want to be comfortable I relax in my living room on my couch and play sports games. If I want to sweat in a shooter or play something with really good graphics I go upstairs to my game room and get on the pc.

My main Problem as a PC enthusiast is, spending a fortune for a kick ass system, only to get shitty PC Ports from the devs, all the powerful hardware not getting utilised.

I complete understand what your coming from. My sister wanted to build a PC in which we did but, she was surprised at how expensive the parts were. That being said she totally enjoys it/

Very informative and objective presentation 👏🏼👍🏼 thanks .. I’m currently researching which gaming platform to get, PC or Xbox X series .. your videos are helpful in getting the right picture before diving into it!

About Wo Long on PC, I had the same stuck in a black screen listening to a dragon issue. I had to install VP9 video extension for the cutscenes to start playing. Really scuffed stuff.

Also you can get retailed part for two times less so sometimes you can build one that’s cheaper and better than consoles but it’s not recommended unless you know what you’re doing. Because sometimes the part might be defective.

Lol Square Ports are pretty bad. The initial launch of Nier Replicant turned me into the Flash

Erock, I wish I seen this 8 years ago before getting addicted to the PC trend! Honestly speaking a console gets the job done, no issue, no thought process at all. A gaming PC doesn't give you that peace of mind. I remember scrapping every dollar for a gaming PC only to realize how much issues it really has underneath. I wasted my youth saving money when that should have been put towards a decent console and to my teenage years.

Im not sure if i want to move to PC because of one main issue. Shader compilation Stutters. I absolutely hate stutters and it seems to be a growing issue on PC

I am an Enthusiast and when I upgrade I will buy high end hardware. It would be madness to upgrade every hardware generation though. My 5950X and my 3090 are still capable and will be for a few years. With the PC ports you are right. A lot of them are flawed.

4:20 to be fair, 4K has always been a rough and expensive resolution to stay relevant at. 1440P and 1080P get much better mileage out of GPUs in the long term. Digital Foundry was one of the outlets that tried to show 1080 Ti 60FPS gameplay which is would struggle at that time. One thing that is a plus for the high end and even the mid-tier parts is that they resell well so if you flip old parts new parts are about half.

Pricing is definitely getting so nutty I’m seeing more and more people just give up building or upgrading and end up saying they bought a ps5. If some one is on a really tight budget and may not have a Pc and they just want to casually play some games it’s not a bad idea to get a ps5 or Xbox just because you do get a lot of value esp on the Xbox side with game pass. However, I am blessed to have ps5 and a high end gaming pc and I really still prefer pc just because I can play older games, newer games and emulators and more. I do think if some one is going to build a Pc and they don’t plan on upgrading it later or typically don’t have the money to buy a new gpu every few years it’s better to save up and get something with more vram than a 4070 ti, although it’s not a bad gpu at all! My wife and many other people I know are using one now and it’s fire. The price is terrible considering what we use to pay for gpus. I really don’t think gpu prices are going to normal again anymore especially with the demand for ai and demand for several other applications that harness gpu power. What my final thought is, look at gaming laptops. You may not get the same exact power out of a desktop counterpart butttttt you can get some really good deals on gaming laptops right now. I’ve seen some good deals on them and you don’t need a monitor keyboard or mouse or any accessories. So in the end if someone is coming from console and they have a strict 1000$ all in budget it could be an option worth looking at. I’ve seen people find clearance and open box deals for 3070 /3080 laptops under 1000$

Used pc 1000 euros 2080 i5 12 gen 16 ram

Hey since you mentioned your wife has mario themed pc. Are you going to see the upcoming super mario movie?

Good vid I agree sometimes the problems with PC can be frustrating but I still would rather deal with that including the high prices over console gaming they are just so locked down I might not even finish god of war ragnarok or horizon forbidden west on my PS5 cause the fov is so close you can’t see anything I am really bout to sell my PS5 I have found my self forcing myself to play it lol

I definitely think going midrange is honestly the way to go for PC at this point high end is fun but its becoming such a waste might as well just lease GPUS at this point

Sorry im late erock i loved the video man good work , 👏

40 series cards are far too expensive here. The cheapest 4090 here in the UK costs about £1,600 ($1,957) 😵‍💫

Pc gaming made sense over consoles for a long time now , but we got to a point where investing in a gaming pc nowadays is simply stupid . Thousands of dollars for a machine that you wont use to its fullest potential. Not to mention console exclusives and bad pc ports .i have a gaming laptop that i spent 3k on 4 years ago and im not spending that much money on a machine ever again .from now on im buying a playstation 5 to play gta6 when it comes out along with other games i enjoy . I dont game that often anymore either since most games are boring these days .

Amazing video on breaking down prices and 10 year analysis.

I mainly game on PC but I have consoles as backup in case something happens. As an owner of all ways to play I’d say as much frustration PC gaming can come with its worth it. Once you play at 4k and get a steady 120 in all game’s console kinda suck. 60fps don’t cut it. As far as ports go…. If it plays like crap I have consoles. Theirs an advantage to playing games on everything and not playing fanboy to a single brand.

If you watch what you are doing, it is the initial cost that sucks. I had a R5 3600 on a decent B550 motherboard but was still using a Sapphire Vega 56 (Mining price hike). Finally the Gigabyte RX 6700xt came down to reference price and it has WindForce 3X cooler. Picked that GPU up. Later AMD announced the new 7000 series CPU and I would need a new motherboard. Few days later Newegg made a mistake and sent me a sale email that had the R7 5700x for like $189 and that was like $80 less than Amazon wanted back then. Picked that part up and kept my motherboard. You may like to play RPG's when you game. But PC hardware is a game of strategy. ; )

Sorry I missed the debut, actually was offline most of the weekend for once lol. Only problem I have with PC is, and always will be, controller support.

My scalper price ps5 disagrees and 80$ black ds5 controller. Consoles last decades mo hardware and software problems every couple of months

I have to say that even though there are certain issues on pc that are annoying but for me the pros still outweight the cons on pc vs console hence pc will probably remain my main platform forever. Not to mention I have over 100 games on steam at this point which I will keep forever and not have to ever worry about any backward compatibility. Theres no way ill ever move on to console.

Love your videos on p.c gaming didn't know you made custom p.c what about a green bay Packers p.c 💚💛

@2:11 Not to mention Windows! Even if you match the specs, windows is so horrendously bad it’s going to run the games much worse. I’m building a PC right now for my kids. Based on the benchmarks and tests I’ve seen you really need to spend a minimum of about $1,200 to get the same real world performance as a current generation consoles. These hardware companies have to start working together to compete against consoles if they want to be sustainable. Because right now they seem to be working together to gouge die hard PC users and console gamers that are just assuming any PC is going to be way better than their consoles. People will be disillusioned eventually, and the small fraction of die hard won’t be enough to keep PC gaming viable. Outside of small budget indie games anyway. Great video!

- too expensive (only if you aim to play the newest AAA games, indies and AA games usally run on a budget GPU. mine is an RTX 3060, and everything is runs just fine) - bad pc ports (maybe, but thx to the growing indie market, you don't need to rely only on PC ports. also you can play retro games more easily than you could on consoles) - driver updates (idk, i only needed to do it once in evry year, and everything its never a problem) - too many game launchers (sure, but you can decide wich ones are you gonna use. for example, i only use STEAM and GOG) in steam, i have my main game libary, and in gog, i have a libary dedicated to retro games... also, you had more freedom in pc. - what OS do you plan to use, (windows for general gaming, linux for emulation) - how do you get your game, (purchase in launcher, use key sites, pirate it) - free multiplayer... just saying. - you can use ANY periferia for games. (i using a custom RGB controller, that has custom mapable buttons, and its compatibile with nintendo switch and pc alike) - you can build your pc for your own purpose, so you don't need to upgrade hardware so often. for example, i have a 20 TB HDD since i like to have a lot of thing installed at once, but i only have a decent graphic card, since i don't play the newest AAA games that often. i more of a AA and Indie enjoyer... so overall, currently the PC is SUPERIOR compared to modern consoles. but as a PC gamer, i still has consoles, just not modern ones. thats why my last console is the PS3, that had free online multiplayer, and has exclusives that are hard to emulate. for example, my favorite game series: Skylanders...

Good points made in the video.

Great video the pc port problem really sucks but thats just something PC player have to deal with

As a new PC gamer I really enjoy your videos E. Glad I made the switch from Console. Although I’m not selling my Series X or PS5. Darn those PlayStation exclusives!

You can build an $500 pc matching the current consoles that's only if you have an monitor and mouse of course though.

Same thing happened to me with Wo Long on game pass. So frustrating.

Windows in itself is a huge problem. I had a pc all my life, played games on pc exclusively until my friend lent me his Xbox 360. The plug and play nature of console was amazing. I didn't have to sit and troubleshoot something after a long day of work due to the unpredictable nature of windows.

Some Small mistakes: - You listed a Ryzen 7 5700x and 6700xt which is miles ahead of ps5/xbox SX's CPU and GPU. But yes you are right GPU prices are still too high in EU/rest of the world. I would suggest getting a 6600xt/6650xt level of GPU (or a 3070) and atleast a modern Ryzen 5 or i5 to get through this console generation. - Last of us part 1 is a remake made specifically for PS5. The 4k MAX settings @ 60fps+ needing a 4080 is not surprising. Seems like people who bought 3060, 3060ti and 3070 expected RT all throughout this console generation are getting scammed.

Glad i got a ps5, plug and play

For me the price isnt such frustrating .. ive bought r9 5950x and rtx 3090 combo with 32gigs of ram for 1300€ of course used .. but what really annoys me is problems with gpus and games instability ... you buy expensive gpu for 1300- 2000€ and you want the best performance and then u must undervolt the gpu because its like on fire and vents go crazy like turbines or u must downclock the core because boost makes games crash like metro exodus callisto protocol etc. or u hear reaaly annoying coil whine which u cannot solve and so much other problems with crashing game so gaming on pc i think is totally uncomfortable everyday im finding new and new problems with gaming on pc and this really convincing me more and more to play on console... its much much much more comfortable gaming than on pc ... sometimes gaming on pc is for me literally the pain ...

I'd like to point out that bit where you mention it being impossible to build a PC with the same specs as current consoles at the same price point. All consoles are sold at a huge loss as it likely costs about $800 per console for them to manufacture and then sell it to you for only $500. It's pretty similar to how the inkjet printer scene works. HP sells you a nice $50, all in one, wifi printer, scanner, fax machine combo that costs them $200 to manufacture complete with almost empty ink cartridges that you most certainly will need to replace within the first month of use. In the long run they make up for that loss on the printer sale by overcharging you for miniscule amounts of ink that constantly need to be replaced in the same way that console manufacturers make you pay more for games, peripherals and online features access.

PC is expensive now then compared back when I built mine in 2018. A high paying job or buisness. Will allow you to make the necessary income to afford a high performance PC. Another thing about PC is a lot of DIY if you build your own. Removal and replacing old parts can be stressful. If you haven't upgraded in while. Ports are a hit and miss. Games get discounted, it's like highway robbery

Pc gaming needs to die for it to be reborn😅great again. Just like this fucked up world needs to😂

I agree with all your points. I just bought a 4080 and I am in aw of the performance lift I got in 4k vs the 3080 I have. I also felt the same exact way when I upgrade from my 2070 super to my 3080. Both times in less than 2 years before I felt the urge/need to upgrade because I could already see with new titles fps and performance starting to drop some. Now owning a 4080 the thought has creeped into my mind “man how long will it be before I feel that urge to upgrade again”. It’s the burden of pc gaming but honestly I think it has been worth it for me as a gamer and I won’t be going back to console.

If you play video games regularly as a hobby then PC will always be cheaper over time. It's not like console manufacturers make their hardware cheap out of the goodness of their heart. They subsidize it. As a result, consoles have far fewer sales than on PC, new games cost more than the PC version, and playing online costs a subscription fee. You don't get regular giveaways like you do on PC due to competing stores either, Amazon Prime only gives you PC games, HumbleBundle is also exclusively PC, there's just not whole lot of options to actually save money on gaming after the console hardware purchase. Anyways, if you live in the US, Europe or Asia, then PC gaming is actually pretty cheap right now thanks to the Steam Deck. Also, your PC doesn't need to be powerful to enjoy games.

You are right and you are also wrong. You don't have to spend $2,500 to get a decent gaming computer. I think most players like myself are happy to have a PC that can run a triple A game at 1080P and get 60 to 75 FPS. My HP gaming PC cost me $550 and I added a 2TB SSD witch brought the price up to $690. My PC came with a Ryzen 5-5600G processor and a Radeon RX5500 graphics card. I can run games like Red Dead Redemption 2 , Cyberpunk 2077, Witcher 3 & Shadow of the Tomb Raider on high settings and get 75FPS and I can hook it up to my 4K TV and play at 1440P and get 55FPS witch too me and a lot of other players is fine. One downside to buying a super expensive PC with all the bells and whistles is you'll also have to buy a 4K monitor and they are not cheap. I enjoyed the video & keep up the good work

GPU prices are absurd. Motherboard prices have become absurd. CPU cooler prices have become absurd. Other part prices are reasonable.

biggest problem is setting and the sick prices these days to game normal

Unfortunately console set the standard I seriously feel Devs do not optimize console port PC right. There are no backbone its like they don't care which can be frustrating at time. I will continue to game on PC majority of the time. Great video man

Watching this after switching to PC a little over a month ago. I feel sad so im gonna go watch your why PC is better than console videos to cheer me up 😅 In all honesty I’ve actually been using a Mini PC (Minis Forum HX77g) and a Laptop (cyberpunk didn’t look right on my Mini PC even though other games look fine). Comparing the PC and PS5 versions of Cyberpunk has been interesting. Quite impressed with what the PS5 can do but it still looks a bit better on my Laptop… at 1080p at least. Still need to try it on my 1440p monitor in fact… thats today’s task 😂

The mods are great in a lot of cases better than the games , or they add a ton of content to a game as well as fix tech issues. Personally i like PC gaming better, it is flexible and you can really customize your set up to play how you want it to perform. If you build or get a good enough Pc that plays games well it really doesn;t have to break the bank . I am a little bit older of a gamer so playing on high settings is fine by me .

I don't know, I got a gaming Mini Gaming PC for 1000 dollars. But the Graphic card was about 300 dollars. Its not the highest end. But it works fine. Been playing Cyberpunk 2077 on it for the last month. And i only play on 1080p tv. I really don't care that much about 4k, 120fps or whatever. I just want to play the fucking games. One great thing about PC games. Is all the Indie games, old school PC Games, Emulation, that don't really require that much power anyways. The main reason for me to own PC is the Games are Cheaper. There more choice as to where buy them and then stuff like mods that cant do on Console.

To our conversation on your other video, you should think of doing a video of gaming on Linux (at least would give you extra content to make and possibly a broader audience). Especially if you are someone who has minimal or no experience with Linux as you have expressed. Just a raw un bias view. Just make sure if you do you enable proton on steam 😂.

Excellent video. You responded to a previous comment of mine why I'm looking at a PS5, as a lifelong PC gamer, and this video pretty much sums up why. Looking at the performance specs for TLoU, for example, I'd need to maybe upgrade my CPU (I have a 5600 non X), but certainly I'd need to upgrade the RAM at $160 AUD for the same 2 x 8GB kit I currently have, and I'd need to upgrade my GPU at over $1000 AUD for a 6800 (can't find a 6750XT here), and I just don't have the money for those, but I do for a PS5. Right now PC is pricing itself out of the market, especially for a decent well performing mid range 4-5 year PC. Edit: I'd also like to point to Hogwarts Legacy as another recent poor port due to poor optimisation.

i spended also a arm and a legg a fiew months ago. i will stop that now at least for 4-5 years otherwise i play with lower settings

Its true that even if you buy high end gpu you probably wont be able to max out settings for 5+ years straight. But remember that graphics on console versions arent equivalent of maxed out settings on pc so you will still be able to run it at better graphics than console versions. Also the recent last of us isnt remaster but a full remake rebuilt from ground up. Yes gameplay and story wise its exactly same as the original but because its a remake rebuilt from a ground up it does have graphics and thus requirements of a modern game. Note that the remake that is coming to pc is only on ps5. Its not on ps4. PS4 only has remaster of the ps3 version which is indeed just a remaster but the recent last of us is a full remake. Now that being said the requirements are still too high and im not excusing that but Im just pointing it out that its actually a remake and not remaster and remake usually has graphics and requirements like new modern games.

One of the best tech KZfaqrs out there

Im 49 and have been gaming since Atari 2600 in 1979. I stopped buying consoles after PS4. Im just stuck at paying $1500 to $2000 on a pc. I miss gaming.. its just too much money

I have been a PC gamer my whole life and I do think PC gaming is better when it come to graphics and high fps/refresh gaming but lately I feel like game developers care more about consoles. For example, hogwarts legacy is a stuttery mess on my Ryzen 7 7700X and RTX 4090 to the point where I don't even enjoy playing it (I'm just going to wait for them to fix all the bugs). Same thing with Forza Horizon 5, when it launched (I had a 3070 Ti at the time) stutter every 30 seconds to a minute and that is very annoying. I just started playing it again 3 month ago and it looks like they fixed the stutters because now the game runs perfectly fine. I just feel like generally games run better/smoother on consoles even if the graphics are slightly worse.

Yeah there ain't no way my broke *ss is affording a whole PC, been enjoying the hell out of playing COD BOCW @1440p, @120 FPS/hz, with Full MnK support on Series X tho, makes me wish more game devs'd add MnK support but oh well!🤷‍♂️

Glad you shaved your head...the thinning hair was triggering my OCD

If you count an old TI or Atari, then those were my consoles to start lol... ...but for many years I've been pc. I'm just now getting used to the controllers now that i have an Xbox and ps...but some games just beg for kb & mouse Coming from the console, I imagine you are almost exclusively controller?

Good video

Yes only dark side of pc gaming is bad pc port. But yes we have a ton of quality indie games to play on pc

That''s nice. Three things I'd like to point out though: First, Xbox Series X is $600 without taking into account the fact that you have to pay separately for multiplayer. Or the fact that you'll have to re-buy most of your games when an upgrade comes out, games which also tend to cost more on consoles, often significantly (more on that later). Second, you don't need the latest and greatest hardware to outperform a Series X or PS5 Pro, especially now with AI upscaling tech like FSR and DLSS having infected the PC market as well, unfortunately. It's easier than ever to match console level performance, a 7900XTX is for someone who wants to run games on Ultra native 4K at 60+ FPS with a pile of mods slapped on top. The framerate alone is twice what the consoles deliver, not to mention all the shit you can do on a PC that you can't on a console... such as running console games. Third, and personally I would lead with this: You don't have to pay for games. In fact, chances are you'll get a better experience if you don't, given how bloated with DRM many PC ports tend to be nowadays. If you don't like a game or a publisher, just don't pay for it, it's that simple.

For me, the ability to mod makes it all worth it.

Overprice and bad stuttering ports are minor issues? Lmao

Yes pc is more expensive but its still better. There are some drawbacks like bad ports as you mentioned but imo the pros outweight the cons for me hence I still choose pc over console. For me here are Pros and Cons of PC and a console PC Pros: - versatility, customizability - you can do a lot of other things besides gaming - being able to upgrade without needing to buy completely new pc every time - being able to tweak graphics settings in games and get perfomance/fps or visuals of your preference rather than being stuck at same preset settings - you can run games at better graphics and/or higher fps than on consoles asuming you have a decent pc - being able to stream and/or record games without needing any extra accessory. If you wanted to stream/record on console you would need pc anyway and on top of it you would still need to buy capture card - being able to game on both mouse and keyboard and use any controller of your preference (playstation,xbox,switch or any other controllers all work on pc) - being able to use both monitor and tv at the same time and can even use multiple screens at the same time - cheaper games and free online. Some games are even given away for completely free such as on Epic. Now the pc itself is still a lot more expensive but this factor eventually bridges the gap on total spendings between console and pc - mods - games on pc usually age better also thanks to graphics mods which are basically like unofficial remasters so even some old games can still look good thanks to them. Heck some of the graphics mods the better job than some official remasters. GTA trilogy is perfect example. And you dont even need to rebuy the game again like you have to with remasters - emulation of older consoles that have games that arent available anymore on modern consoles - above point also brings out the fact that on PC I never need to worry about backward compatibility and can keep playing my games pretty much forever. Also steam is not going away anytime soon yet you never know when they close online service for consoles. Nintendo is already doing it with Wii u and 3ds online shops - having pc versions of the games give you more options of where you can play them. You can even play them on the phone thanks to geeforce now, or on a weaker laptop or even some modern TVs have it now. Or you can play them on the steam deck so you can play them on the go. You wouldnt have this option if you had playstation/xbox versions PC Cons: - more expensive - some bad pc ports that can cause issues like stuttering and other perfomance problems even on otherwise powerful pcs - having to use multiple launchers for games and having to reqister on every single one of them which can sometimes be a hassle - potential drivers issues that can cause game crashes etc. which you then have to do your own research and troubleshooting to fix it which can be frustrating especially for someone who isnt a "tech" person - more likely to meet cheaters/hackes when playing games online Console Pros: - cheaper - simple plug and play, ease of use and overall more user friendly especially for casuals - exclusive games. Then again not sure if this is a point for console because pc still has a lot of games that arent on consoles and consoles today have a lot less exclusives than 10+ years ago and even those eventually get ported to pc - unlikely to have issues like game crashes - less likely to meet cheaters/hackers online Console Cons: - being stuck at preset settings for games. Some games force you to play at 30 fps and theres nothing you can do about it - in general lower fps and lower graphics than on a good pc - only being able to play with controller that came with the console. Strategy games and shooter games is a night and day difference on mouse/keyboard vs controller. While you technically can use mouse/keyboard on console but lets be real no one does that when playing on a couch - more expensive games and you have to pay to be able to play games online - theres only so much disc space you can expand upon - you dont know if you will be able to play your games on future generations of consoles. PS5 is backwards compatible with ps4 but its not with ps3,2,1 and ps4 isnt even backward compatible with ps3. So you will still need multiple consoles to be able to play games across all generations and have to use seperate controllers for each one and it will be even more in the future generations which alone is just more hassle and annoyance(and your tv will run out of enough hdmi ports eventually so you still wont be able to play all of them) - you dont know if the online services will stay - less options overall I choose PC and dont mind paying more because all the extra options,versatility,being able to run games at higher fps and having everything on one platform makes it worth it for me.

I love PCs the only reason I still use my Xbox is because I spent money on games and I would rather not rebuy them on my pc

I needed a new pc and wanted to play horizon 5. my calculations were that a pc would cost me about 1300€ or a console 450 + office pc 600 and i could game in my living room and the pc stays in the office. Guess what i did

Console gaming has plateaued and is on the decline compared to past numbers. If anything I see developers prioritizing PC, cloud and mobile very soon.

Nowadays PC gaming is just getting expensive, and games that is ported into PC are also expensive. Everything PC related are expensive. The monitor, keyboard, and mouse not to mention high end stuff. But people love to bite on it, it is just BS now.

I can't believe how pitiful the software for this amazing hardware is. Raytracing doesn't make games fun. Returnal rhymes with urinal. All these RE remakes are getting pretty re re since all they are really adding is microtransactions. When the most fun on PC are in games like HADES or Hollow Knight, I have to conclude that gaming needs to calm down on ALL platforms and these AAA developers are oblivious to what makes a game good. Meanwhile we have indie devs getting greedy and ruining their own development cycles by signing too many deals. Why game at all?

whenever I grab a console controller I feel crippled. This is my only gripe with consoles

I already need a PC for work and other stuff whereas a console would only be useful for gaming. Even if the PC is more expensive, part of the cost is for other uses. I wouldn't buy a console that is mostly for playing games.

If you want to build or buy a PC right now you gotta go used or you're getting shit value for money so you can forget about 40 series and 7000 from AMD. That's the truth of the matter unfortunately.

I'm new to pc info but it seems like an abusive relationship 70 percent of the time it's just fixing issues that mostly shouldn't exist. But the 30 percent where everything is going well it goes REALLY GOOD.

Great video! I appreciate this. It's a nice way to stand on the line and discuss to both crowds: Console vs. PC gamers and say that yeah - things in the PC market are crazy, but there are good reasons to cross over if they are interested. I read an article recently that suggested PC w/Xbox Game Pass + A PS5 was an amazing combination so they could game on an amazing PC with high performance and also have PS exclusives that could be played now. Pesonally I'm just good with PC - even waiting a year or two for many PS exclusives XD

Ps5/series x, specs look good on paper, the performace is not as good tho, a ton of games are still 30 fps, alot of games are 60 fps, but there is almost no real native 4k on console, a gtx 1080 can give you higher framerate then console, better graphics, and even do native 4k at 30 fps or upscale using fsr, so yes you can build a 500 doller Pc that out performs a console, console and Pc are 2 different ways of gaming, Pc is the future

Games need to be developed on PC again. Not only that, games that are developed on poor mans hardware, should be made to run on similar performing HW. If it can run on a PS5, it should run on a 2080/6700xt with similar performance

The new The Last of us is a remake not a remaster

One of the biggest things people don't realize and that games on PC are different than consoles. Variable resolutions, framerates, uncompressed hi res textures... if a feveloper does try its going to play like garbage

There's more PC gamers than Xbox+PS users combined. The problem is that it's way easier to develop for console than all the other possible PC parts combinations.