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The Sleeping Realm Theory | part 3

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AuroraPeachy

AuroraPeachy

3 жыл бұрын

The Sleeping Realm Theory is a 480-page Kingdom Hearts document proposing that the KH3 we play is on its second timeline, and takes place within the Sleeping Realm or “Unchained State.”
This is a complete reading and discussion of the theory. Thanks so much to Niku for joining me!
Link to the SRT doc: bit.ly/37ypAWB
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@weridplusho
@weridplusho 3 жыл бұрын
Sora's heart, dead lifting Sora's empty brain and doing most of the work since CoM. Pour one out for the hard working employee. I didn't mention it last video, but the favorite parts of this theory is notice of the subtle mechanics and impossibilities that happen. Really makes me wonder what is causing everyone to go into deeper layers of sleep. Sometimes the game makes it seem it's the Organization but other times it feels so random. Like the characters, when they hit a Bad End, just dive deeper instinctively so they can get a Good End and continue on. That said, it's _very_ interesting how every world that deals with True Love has a Riku parallel while the Separation has Kairi parallels. (With the only exception being Toy Box but even Riku needed his own Separation parallel, heh.) The Pirates of the Caribbean hits especially because the Elizabeth screenshot used reminds me of Kairi looking out on the beach, waiting for Sora in KH2's intro.
@Fragmentsinfractals488
@Fragmentsinfractals488 Жыл бұрын
The Master of Master seems to be running inference in the Script to make sure Darkness doesn't win the Game they made a contract for.
@tylercafe1260
@tylercafe1260 3 ай бұрын
Sora straight up has a full on flashback to every Disney world about "True Love" when he holds Kairi's hand. That's just straight up a lie
@oras7745
@oras7745 3 ай бұрын
​@@tylercafe1260 Well first: it's two worlds he's having flashbacks from and they're about "True Love's Sacrifice". One romantic and one familiar. Kairi didn't sacrifice herself. Also, in the novels Sora in that scene just thinks about how saving someone from death must be a power Princesses of Heart have. And in the game he is literally taken aback by having these flashbacks and is confused, he just pushes that confusion away. Second, yes every world that has True Love as a theme, has a Riku parallel. Whether in the game itself or in the novels, Sora is always thinking about Riku. In Arendelle, obviously, in Corona Sora thinks about how Rapunzel reminds him of Riku in the novel. Olympus has also at least two Riku parallels. The first one is the line "I was able to save Meg's life because I was ready to risk my own" which is a reference to Hercules wanting to protect Meg and willing to sacrifice himself for her, just like Riku. And the second is when Hercules saying he wants to stay with the person he loves most, which is followed by the scene with Riku and Mickey in the RoD where Mickey tells Riku that he finally found the strength to protect "what matters". In japanese Hercules and Mickey both use the same phrase to refer to a "most precious person" (Taisetsuna hito). The parallels even kind of intermingle with each other, making them even more pointed.
@kanameow
@kanameow 3 ай бұрын
Oh that's really interesting because I noticed right away her name means separation and the kanji for it is the sea, which is between the land and the sky (riku and sora's names) so it's cool the game is portraying her with this "separation" meaning as well. KH is a story of the land and sky coming together.
@howlbeastie
@howlbeastie Жыл бұрын
it's worth noting: In Japanese, the phrase "おかえり" (okaeri) can be translated to English as "You're home," but it has certain connotations within its native language that make sense in the game. It can mean "welcome back," "You came home safe," etc, since the phrase "tadaima" ("I'm home," or "I have returned") is usually accompanied with it as a response. In Japanese culture, it's very common to wish someone well when they leave the house and Also upon returning. Within the context of the game, welcoming them back into the light, a place of refuge and solace from the darkness- makes so much more sense.
@brooksie9999999999
@brooksie9999999999 3 жыл бұрын
Who gets asked to take off his coat and his reply was "Im well known in this coat and its expected of me -Axel" The same person who as a child quotes "I want everyone to remember my name so i can live forever"
@rebelwitharoyalheart
@rebelwitharoyalheart 3 жыл бұрын
LUMPY THE FREAKING HEFFALUMP- Nomura u mad man.... i hereby officially subscribe to the sleeping realm theory, ya got me >.< (also now i want a lumpy plush haha)
@AuroraPeachy
@AuroraPeachy 3 жыл бұрын
LUMPY DESTROYED ME. NOMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA The SRT just makes too much sense. There's SO MUCH.
@Mike_Dubo
@Mike_Dubo Жыл бұрын
About Heffalumps and Woozles, they've had physical appearances in the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. I even had a tape with an episode where a duo of one of each kidnap some of the cast for a ransom, even though they didn't know what to ransom them for.
@snowarmth
@snowarmth 2 жыл бұрын
The part about the Baymaxes. I agree that the one that "vanished into another dimension" is Sora, but I can't help but feel like the two Baymaxes that stayed behind could be Roxas and someone else like say, Ventus. I have seen moments that demonstrate how similar Ven and Sora are, like Sora confronting Vanitas and saying "But I--" before Ven interrupts, "But I didn't ask for this." or something similar. It also is worth noting that there are of course many Soras the same way there are now multiple Baymaxes. :o
@snowarmth
@snowarmth 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, this is the best Kingdom Hearts theory in my opinion. :3
@KwizzyDaAwesome
@KwizzyDaAwesome Жыл бұрын
Almost like the stories we tell ourselves and we hear from others shape our reality.
@shinichi4476
@shinichi4476 10 ай бұрын
You know, this has to be like, the fifth time I’m rewatching these, and it’s funny how my brain has just decided that this ? This is canon. It’s just facts now. Not a theory.
@AuroraPeachy
@AuroraPeachy 10 ай бұрын
It's eerily plausible, isn't it? 😳
@brooksie9999999999
@brooksie9999999999 3 жыл бұрын
Namini Quote about kairi "If his memoreys become her memoreys she will never survive it" Kairi may already be dead aye
@kanameow
@kanameow 3 ай бұрын
at 15:50 where YMX is talking about appointed path etched in his heart, which will first lead me to seek the outside world. All I can think of is how Riku first lead Sora to seek the outside world. That's like a direct reference to Riku. The japanese translation would be interesting to know of this line. I'm guessing it's either a roundabout way of saying Riku is Sora's heart, or some hint about Kairi. (I've only experienced this game through these meta videos but I got a crack theory Kairi doesn't have a heart because maybe she was Sora's or someone else's creation - she represents a barrier between the land and the sky, the rift between Riku and Sora. Someone willed her into existence.)
@SigmaTheEevee
@SigmaTheEevee 2 ай бұрын
The scene where Sora tells Aqua she's home, what if that's Kairi's heart reaching to Aqua from Sora as an additional connection to reinforce Ven's connection to Aqua from Sora's heart
@brooksie9999999999
@brooksie9999999999 3 жыл бұрын
Ever noticed that in KHUX they time travel using the cornerstone of light?> Try looking into the conerstone of light ;)
@NububuChan
@NububuChan Жыл бұрын
0:34:10 lmao "I know facts about Lumpy the Heffalump" 😂
@TheKeyblader133
@TheKeyblader133 2 жыл бұрын
(Edit: Hoping my tone doesnt ever come off as stand-off-ish. Also realize that the point about Roxas does get kinda touched on, I guess I'm just of the opinion that it is how the game says, but I suppose it also doesn't contradict the idea that there's a second timeline either, as even with that, Roxas could still feel the same nostalgia that it's "been a while") I figure someone has already pointed this out in some point, but the point around 18:00 about it being weird that Sora remarking that "Oh the trams are still running" Being odd shouldn't really seem odd at all, right? The game frequently makes little nods to the fact that both Roxas and Ventus have a pretty apparent influence over Sora's behavior when it comes to events they connect with. Roxas's nostalgia for twilight town is key there, for example, and is paralleled by the call back to Nobodies communicating with him, as their "leige" as he was an original member of Org XIII. And this happens at least once with Ventus as well, when Sora goes blank and declares "I'll rescue [Aqua]", only to show he had no intention of actually saying that (I forget if he didn't even know he said it, or was confused why he did). In another circumstance, I'd agree this would fit with the original idea of the Second Timeline theory, but the in game narrative already indicates the reason. But admittedly it may have been a bit subtle, so it's an understandable mixup This message aside, the amount of effort put into this theory is just, mind boggling. In a good way. Admittedly, I still have a hard time accepting the "Second timeline" portion of the theory, but I genuinely respect it cause the theory makes a compelling case for it, and it honestly isn't out of character for KH to do something like that. TBH if it is true, I feel like the game could have done *far more* to make it apparent, even if they aimed to make it subtle. While it could be one of those things where like...it "Needed to be a secret" for a future title, and while I do find the whole concept very interesting, I personally wouldn't feel it'd be worth hiding such a key detail of the story behind so many obfuscations like this theory points out. Still, my issues aside, that doesn't change how much time and effort went into this, and sure, maybe it does point out a lot of tiny details, but like, it's all for good reason. It's not just grasping at straws xD So It's been a very enjoyable listen so far. I would have liked to read it myself, but I just haven't had the energy for large reads lately >.< So having a full video series of it to watch is a great substitute :3
@TheKeyblader133
@TheKeyblader133 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so the irony in this comment, mainly about me saying I wasn't quite sure I bought onto the second timeline thing. Well, as soon as it got to the point of discussing how every World that was visited had themes crucial to Sora's Journey, and that his heart pretty much always guided him there, at first I didn't realize it was going, up until Frozen and then...wow holy shit. Either one of the biggest coincidences or just, yknow, utter underlying foreshadowing of a second timeline, or any sort of time travel shenanigans with Sora involved.
@thedoopus
@thedoopus 5 ай бұрын
This may be a totally out there thing, but the point where you guys were talking about the comparisons of Pooh saying "Your Home" to Kairi's, and then questioning what the significance could be with Sora saying it to Aqua. Is there any evidence at that point that Sora still has anything of Kairi left in his heart? If so, it would be an interesting thing of perhaps Kairi's saying it, or Sora's sorta urged to say it to Aqua due to their connections. Another thing to ponder is whether or not Ven's still snoozing around in there or not. You've inspired a lot of thinking and piecing together things myself! For instance I can't get the idea that there's a big comparison of Ven being asleep this whole time in previous games, but now this time it's Sora sleeping a bunch, outta my head. Same with a line Kairi speaks waaay back in KH1, where before Grandma tells her about the prophecy of the Dandelions, she asks Where she is. Unusual, given it seems that she's been set up to have come from there. The whole Memory loss due to being in a dream, or having time traveled is making me look at this line with a lot more scrutiny now. Especially since it was Zazzy-Xey that says he's chosen a girl, so thus, has had involvement. Plus we know that they were doing experiments during these times, so it's looking stranger and stranger the more I think about it. Edit: PLUS there's the point about Riku-Ansem specifically saying the words "She won't wake up." I'm gonna think more on this. You guys have done amazing work, and have really transformed the narrative of KH3 for my partner and I. Excellent observations!
@brooksie9999999999
@brooksie9999999999 3 жыл бұрын
KH1 Is entirley based around kairi's heart isnt in her body lol
@brooksie9999999999
@brooksie9999999999 3 жыл бұрын
Riku also unlocks malificents heart and says and i quote "Now surrender yourself to darkness, Become darkness itself" As he sticks a keyblade into her that activley unlocks her heart...... How could yo0u miss that xD
@rirururu4697
@rirururu4697 Жыл бұрын
ah yes my favourite disney character miggey
@darkherodude5483
@darkherodude5483 3 жыл бұрын
Miggey Moogs!
@eternal8075
@eternal8075 3 жыл бұрын
FIRST!!
@brooksie9999999999
@brooksie9999999999 3 жыл бұрын
You seam to have also missed the scenes where ventus became friends with Axel/Lee as a child He activley says "Inside peoples memoreys i can live forever" Then when he is told "i could never forget you i try too all the time Lee then replys with an even more complex "See im immortal" Axel is the master of masters ladys and gents ive said this since i heard of the master of masters His Exactt demeaner is that of the master they act exactly the same They move exactly the same They are both theatrical The master wrote the book of properceys and lee "Has got it memorised" No heartless as ever been attributed to Axel and him reforming into Lee shouldnt of even happened
@millionshadesofdarkness2165
@millionshadesofdarkness2165 3 жыл бұрын
The voice actor for YX said that during his conversation with MoM, in the studio everyone heard MoMs name. He said MoM is a new character and not any existing character lol
@Saphius-
@Saphius- Жыл бұрын
At this point, I have no idea if the writers even planned all you said. Not because all you say is incoherent or far-fetched but because their writing has been quite sub-par lately. Kinda thinking you do a better job at remembering things established before than thel ahah
@venny-ip7ks
@venny-ip7ks Жыл бұрын
wdym? the story for dark road and khux is some of the best writing we've had in the series so far. i'd say nomura knows exactly what he's doing and has known for a while.
@venny-ip7ks
@venny-ip7ks Жыл бұрын
and i'd argue nomura remembers everything because he leaves no stones unturned. he has revisited almost everything in the series, down to the X in roxas, axel, and xion's name being a sigil that connects them.
@tylercafe1260
@tylercafe1260 3 ай бұрын
Didn't Eraqus Keyblade help them find Aqua? Which is also Brains Keyblade... So they did get help. They did find someone that's connected to Aqua. Her Master Keyblade when she was in the Dark Realm. How did the Keyblade find its own way out unless it was purposely trying to help Sora find them? The theory completely ruins other characters. We know that Keyblade can hold part of a person Will and protect people much like how Terra and Vens Keyblades found it's way into the Dark Realm to protect Aqua from the Heartless. So finding the Masters Keyblade was the exact thread they needed. Supporting this theory also suggests every other character was purely in service to Sora and Riku and that's far from the truth.
@oras7745
@oras7745 3 ай бұрын
While you're right about Keyblades in general and I do think that you probably have a point with Master Defender and it's true that Sora did say the Keyblade helped him, you're also forgetting that Aqua was on the Destiny Islands right before they got restored in KH1. That's when she lost Master Defender. It basically got "transported" to the Realm of Light alongside the Islands. That's why it's there. Your implied claim that Master Defender is the only thing leading him into the RoD falls apart once you realize these simple facts: 1) that Mickey meant they need someone with a close bond to Aqua to find her INSIDE the RoD, since 2) to enter it you still need either a Keyblade of Darkness, Dark Corridors or The Power of Waking. 3) Sora doesn't have the first two and the PoW is stated to be acquired once one has understood what it means to protect someone precious. And for all that I love Aqua as a character, I'm pretty sure she is not someone precious to Sora. Even though Sora probably already considers her a friend before they properly meet again, they don't know each other and he doesn't even remember when they met 11 years ago. 4) That Sora isn't venturing into the RoD to save Aqua, but to save and protect Riku FROM Aqua. He wants to go there in the first place specifically because Riku is in trouble. Right before Sora arrives in the RoD, Riku is in a dire situation and whispering Sora's name, essentially calling out to him and, as your so beloved Journal in the game states, Sora followed Riku's voice through the door. I don't mean to say that your point isn't true at all, but rather that both points aren't mutually exclusive. But what I do want to state is that it's highly exaggerated and, frankly, quite ridiculous to say that this theory "ruins other characters" when you're using nitpicks (which aren't even true) to validate yourself. This is one point in a bunch of other points. Where does it even ruin any characters? Also where does the theory suggest that every character is purely in service of Sora and Riku? I think you're not really upset because you think that someone's character is being "ruined", but because it's another example for how much Riku means to Sora and vice versa.
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