Poor velen:(

The light is actually just Jesus because of how quick people forgive on azeroth lol

That's just Velen's character, he has always been forgiving to anybody who seeks it. The Blood Elves who kidnapped and tortured, essentially one of their gods/saviors, he preformed the rites that would allow that Naaru to sacrifice itself to save the Blood Elves. The Orcs who committed genocide on a grand scale against their people, turned their bodies into fuel for their invasion and bones for their construction were forgiven, even Durotan who personally killed his best friend even after his friend spared Durotan's life after defeating him previously. Nearly was about to say Garrosh could be forgiven even after he personally almost killed and crippled his apprentice before being interrupted by Jaina. Kil'Jaedin after he spent personally 10,000 years trying to ruin Velen's life was forgiven and Velen even offered him his last rites. The Horde after the War of Thrones going so far as to extend an invitation to Zekhan and Rexxar to come see Azuremyst while they were journeying around the world. The only person that Velen never forgave was Tal'Gath the guy he trusted to protect his family, that sold out their escape plan to the Legion, that killed his wife and tortured and turned his son into an Man'ari. He even forgave you the player after you killed his son despite pleading when he realized who his son was before you killed him in front of him, while also in the process forgiving his son for killing the Naaru who personally saved the Draenei from Argus in front of him. Velen has literally been fucked over more than literally any other character in Wow, enduring like 3 different genocides, losing his entire family, having to escape to like 3 different planets, watching like 12 of his race's saviors/gods be killed or tortured and losing like 50 best friends along the way and he's still passing out forgiveness like it's candy

@@Evan-mt7bc No? Even when he last saw Kil'jaeden, Velen was still judging him, he didn't completely forgive his actions. Velen is a good and wise leader, but he isn't naive. There are unforgivable crimes, and these eredar committed worse than anything we can find even in real life. Similarly, you can't compare literally any other race or faction to the Legion either, they are the worst, by far. Besides this, even if Velen accepted their demon kin back, nobody would agree with it. Not the Alliance, not the Horde, and especially not the other draenei. They would probably even question his sanity, after murdering every single Man'ari who came to Azeroth of course

not just that but he actually seemed upset that this lets call it a civil war was still ongoing, i dont think he took pleasure in killing his own kind but it was a "the end justifies the means" situation for him

@@vhaelen326 You're arguing in good faith about Kil'jaeden... the deceiver himself.

I mean even deceiver tend to show their true color when they're on their last breath.

i mean dont take his word for it. go to tomb of sargeras and watch the ending cutscene. not to excuse the awful things KJ did, but he did show remorse in his final moments.@@davidpachon8591

Kil'jaeden was the one who never stopped hunting the exiled ones (Draenei) This was never an explicit order from Sargeras, it was personal for KJ to prove Velen wrong aka wipe them all out. At some point he could've just stopped and let them be, but no 😅 This is just Blizzard again loosing connection between old vs new lore - nothing new.

🚀 To extend our reach to the stars above: Velen!🕺Sargeras!💃

Ogres not orges.

I think ogre armor would be absolute ass. I already hate how dragon form doesn't allow you to show all armor.

The point of allied races is that they use the skeletons of other races so they’re easier to push out the door since only a little new animation work has to be done. From my understanding, the modeling and racial ability work is the minority of dev time that goes into a race, with most dev time going into making the hundreds of animations that a WoW player character needs to have in order to properly interact with the world. A lot of the races you’re naming would need to be rigged and animated from scratch, hence why they haven’t been added as allied races.

@@Marqrk The problem is that they are still unable to satisfy player needs with allied races. And literally only one of the races he mentioned needs work, which would be Ogres. All the rest share skeletons/animations with existing playable races. Where are the forest trolls(regular troll animations)? Where are the Taunka (tauren animations)? The broken/krokul(tauren/draenei animations)? The mogu (draenei animations)? They also obviously don't care about lore anymore, they should just add fel orcs, felblood elves, frost trolls, man'ari eredar with actual felscarring (unlike what we have now), alllll that shit and let players HAVE FUN.

I mean apparently they also allow warlocks in their rank now, so they probably don't care. Kinda silly if you ask me

The broken are not supposed to use the light, read about Nobundo and you would realize that's egregious.

@@davidpachon8591 When will you learn that Blizzard does not care. Lightforged draenei can be warlocks for christ's sakes. Man'ari eredar can be paladins.

The Krokuun Broken should’ve been the Allied Race instead of lightforged

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​@@Herel78would have been unfair towards the horde's players cuz we also just got the highmountain tauren that were basically the same as the regular tauren just with different horns.

​@@jcs7206but didn't you get a new race when we got gnomes 2.0

Because he is bitter after thousands of years I guess. I always thought he is a bit of an a-hole. Velen even said that he needn't sacrifice himself but Hatuun did anyway

A heroic death is what he expect3d, but he ended up cut off from the light and painfully mutated. Add on several thousand years on a hellscape that used to be your former planet, and it's enough to make anyone a little irrationally hostile.

That would be accurate and awesome

The link between the legion and the twisting nether should be severed now since Argus which was the fuel for that was destroyed. When killed all demons should remain permanently dead at this point.

@@Evan-mt7bc Not at all. It was said the Legion only used Argus' energies to speed up the natural regeneration process. Demons still won't die a permanent death unless you kill them in the Twisting Nether, as that is the realm they originate from.

12:08 max level char can pick it up infront of Stormwind Keep

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@@Nobbel87 oh my god I cannot believe I missed you replying to me! First of all, I’m a massive fan I cannot believe you actually replied! Thank you so much!

Yap rise of the horde! In essence he didn't have much of a choice

and also souls of his wife and son rakeesh.

😂😂😂

Undead druid and shaman, tauren rogue...

@@bakshev The Tauren can hide in cherry trees by painting their hooves red though

That's not something new, Tyrant Velhari was a paladin. Being man'ari doesn't prevent you from wielding the light. Also even if it would there are worse combinations that are complete nonsense like lightforge shadowpriests and voidelf holy priest.

​​@@thelith shadow priest is a spec aswell as holy which is not the same as saying a race corrupted to the root should wield the light.

@@davidpachon8591 why shouldnt? Anyone can wield the light as long as they beleive they are worthy of wielding it. Being a spec only doest change a thing,

and green eyes.

@ElFelix88 You say that as you keep giving them more and more money because you're addicted to their games. Incoming lie to protect your ego by saying you stopped playing their games knowing it's a damn lie.

​@@scorpinok3006yet you watch video about wow lol

​@@scorpinok3006I'm with him they should have done better with this, they have the features literally locked behind a fcking Toy for absolutely no plausible reason, why not just add the shit to customization and be done with it

Garrosh never repent, even in afterlife. He never saw what he did was wrong.

I mean for the sake of customization, blizz has fucked up the story. Tauren rogues, LIGHTFORGED DEATH KNIGHTS, ROGUES, AND FUCKING WARLOCKS....

@@scorpiowarrior7841 Its very sad because i'd be more okay if these were like Challenge or skill checks like the mage tower, you play through a hard encounter to earn the right and be one of a FEW able to change your character to something that doesn't make sense like a Tauren rogue for that really good rogue player who's class doesn't matter kinda thing. But since Blizz are "bring the player not the class, even though we screw class balancing all the time" its still the same everyone can sit at the kids table so its not unfair when people start sitting at the adult table others can't reach. I found wow much more interesting when i got the black proto drake and others couldn't it held value, and make people aspire to get better at the game.. now days it'd be payment for it.. but still if they fixed bots (which they'll never do) and made things unobtainable unless you take part in that content (like glad mounts !?!?! oh right they wanna be esporty)

Forreal, if they wanted to go with a redeeming arc they could have at least given them a sentencing...? Like put them in magical lightforged chains ⛓️ while they serve the draenei. All the while they're serving in the alliance they are in constant misery as the light works slowly to change their irredeemable bits and remove their fel-ishness: a physically painful process that makes them super angry moody edgelords 😂

I doubt even the Horde would have accepted them in actually. Given their history not just with the orcs, but also the nightborne would make it unbelievable. At the most, the Horde would be willing for an uneasy alliance, but nothing else.