The Tories hate the public, and they wonder why feeling is mutual?

Oi! Us old school working class who grew up during the Thatcher years hate the Tories too! We were hating them before you were born! 😂😂😂

The crab in a bucket analogy also works perfectly when you consider the general public and anyone like railway workers and nurses. Rather than help the strikers do better the general public pull them back into the bucket with “we are struggling down here, you should stay in here and struggle with us”.

It's not just young people. Anyone capable of rational thought hates them

I hope so ! I remember how I felt about Margaret Thatcher's government back in the 80's and 90s and we had to put up with a couple more decades or so of those losers after that. It was like they were never going to go away. And arguably they never have done , such is the horrifically damaging effect of Thatcher's legacy.

Screw the labels - we're all being screwed over.

I am 56 years old and remain as socialist as I was when I was younger. I still care as much about the planet and other peiple and want fairness for all. With politics getting further to the right, even so called Labour, it looks like I am getting further to the left but I am staying still. I loved Corbyn's politics of hope. If only...

My parents who are in their late 50s have always argued that growing up under labour in the 70s made them unable to vote for labour again. I generally believe most people under 35 have been so negatively effected by this Tory government and Brexit they’ll never vote for them.

I needed that end!! Thankyou!! 😂 btw, not all boomers are passing on their wealth, it’s already eaten up with paying for elderly care homes.. I know several families this is so.

I'm 59 (born 1963) so that makes me a boomer. Have enormous sympathy with the housing situation for younger people but also, just to say, that it does impact some of my generation too. I don't own a home. I used to (when married) but as a result of that relationship ending, I fell off the property ladder and haven't been able to get back on it - I rent and worry about my future too. I think it's a class and income issue rather than purely a young against old generation issue - and that's not to negate the many issues younger people face but there are older people out there who are also not home owners and concerned about their future too. I definitely don't support the Tories - am looking forward to them going (whenever they eventually do). Worst government I've witnessed since being alive on this planet.

The deposit point is absolutely correct, I saved up a large chunk of my terrible wage ( while going from 0-3 children) through the very same significant sacrifice the daily mail claim millennials are incapable, and in the 7 years I saved to reach my goal the 20% deposit I'd planned became a 8% deposition due to house prices going mental.

I am becoming more socialist and angry anti-conservative each and every year I add on. I'm also in the middle of the millennial bracket (1981-1996)

The "wealth tsunami" isn't coming unless there is reform of the care system. As it is that money will quickly go into care for them when they're in their 80s and 90s.

Omg that ending, absolute comic gold. I can't believe you went from derailed to fully lost it. Top tier content

I'm 65, a retired professional and shift further and further to the left by the day. I feel betrayed at every level by Starmer who would be a Tory in disguise if he made any attempt at all to disguise it. How do millennials feel about him? My kids are millennials and just feel utterly voiceless.

As they had more money and didn't want to give it away. Now we have no money and see our friends struggle with no money too. We would have to be arseholes and against self preservation if we supported tories.

I'm 67 this month and have always thought you'd have to be somewhat bonkers to vote Tory if you were born north of the Trent as the Conservative Party is a coalition of those opposed to everything new that developed in the North following the industrial revolution - particularly certain forms of work and certain sorts of association (e.g. co-ops). I now think you'd also have to be bonkers to vote Tory if you are a conservative. It becomes clearer and clearer that Thatcher was an atomist, an economic liberal and addicted to change and the destruction of traditional society. Conservatism is based on the idea of a particular kind of society. I 'm not sure whom or what the Tories represent any longer.

The crab bucket is in one of the Terry prattchet books.

Narcissists expect power and praise regardless of how they use power and even if they make mistakes theyll never admit it even with video proof of them doing it theyll deny it. Dark triad personality types are drawn to positions of power

BTW plenty of pensioners in this country are living in total poverty, UK having the lowest pension rate in the whole of Europe and they are not all Tory voters - plenty of them were marching, protesting, fighting the Tories for their whole lives. These boxes where people are labelled as a Boomer, Xer, Millennial, Gen Z... are very inaccurate labels and often create unnecessary divisions. People investigating generational demographics use them as shortcuts and descriptors for the differences between various age groups but often it overlooks the fact that there is in some cases political common ground there.

As a 31 year old nurse, I feel like ive been relentlessly attacked by the government my entire adult life. Just when im approaching an important milestone in my life, the government price me out of the opportunity. I am now half a million pounds in debt due to housing costs and ive never had a payrise in my entire life (last one being in 2008 for nurses when i was still in school)

For reference, though Generations are Fuzzy things, Millennial is generally considered to be 1981-1996 and Gen Z is considered 1997-2012. Older Millennials are tipping over 40 and now and even younger ones are nearly 30. It’s those pesky Gen Z’ers who are ‘young people’ these days. Said by a not bitter, pushing 30 millennial 😂

Having a tsunami of money ain’t gonna do ya much good when you’re buried under one.

I was born right at the end of 1996 so I'm directly on the cusp between Millennial and Gen Z. I'm a homeowner purely down to the luck of having a decently paid job and also my parents earning decent enough money I could continue to live with them after uni while I saved up. I know most people my age aren't in the position, and I only got here due to complete luck. The Tories have created an environment where luck is the only way people in my generation can ever hope to get ahead. Even though I am a homeowner so in the position most people would start moving towards the Tories, I can't stand them and can't ever imagine myself voting for them

I'm a gen x and I've become more anarchic as I've aged 😉 just a natural response to all of this 'nonsense '!

I am 70 and i am going further left and hate the tories despite being public school with parents who read the Telegraph and worshipped the monarchy.

Here I was, watching along, thinking I can hardly tell these are Brits, except the accents of course, as their outlook, worries, goals mirror ours in the U.S. And, then, there was this story/joke at the end, and I still don’t know what the hell that was.

They do act like we owe them, when actually they bleddy well owe us! 🎯🇬🇧

I've seen a few comments about house deposits.....Well when I bought my first house in the 90s it was relatively easy to save up for a deposit. Why? 1) You could buy a house for 3x your salary. 2) You could get a mortgage with a 5% deposit. 3) Rent payments were reasonable. Why is it so hard for people to see how hard it is to get on the property ladder in the current conditions?

The tories are thinking that their seats are safe ,think that they have another think coming !!!!!

The problem with the wealth tsunami, is that i cant wait until i inherit wealth at 70 years old to start a family. Biology wont wait that long

Three people getting pissed chatting semi seriously about politics interspersed with paintballing dominatrix anecdotes. Meanwhile I sit on my sofa on a Saturday morning while an eight year old bounces a transformer off my head. I live vicariously through you, please post more!

As a baby boomer I have always heard that people become more conservative as they age because they want to keep their wealth. I have noticed that many men in my age group seem to become more conservative not because of wealth preservation but rather because of a fear of change and new things coming along. Many seem to become technophobic and attack any new technology claiming it simply won't work and we should go back to the way things were. As they retire they seem to lose their sense of purpose which was built around their careers/jobs. When they then see their old jobs getting dramatically changed with new technology then they see their knowledge going with it and their relevance as well. Most older men would never dream of asking their children or even grandchildren to help them set up their smart phone whereas the women of the same age group seem only too willing to ask and some might say pester. The thought for an older man having to use his smart phone to use an EV is a nightmare scenario. When you have that fear it is very easy to manipulate somebody to think like you. Thinking back to when I was growing up I seem to recall that even back in the 70's, 80's and 90's men were the same. Always complaining about the changes that were taking place and how things were better left alone. While women seemed to go with the tide. As technology changes so fast now I don't see that this will be a thing in the future because it seems to be accepted that there will be a new version of whatever the technology is by millenials and Gen Z. The only question the seem to have is when to jump for the next version.

Their ability to earn the undying hatred from anyone with a brain is impressive.

The Tories utilise power on behalf of large business and the richer, privileged classes. They are not there for the majority of people in our country, they are there for the vested interests. Of course, those that fit that description do not represent a large enough cohort to win elections for them, so traditionally, the Tories have gained and held power through their ability to convince poor people to consistently vote against their own interests, by stoking fear of change and difference. The problem the Tories have is that their party is now so depleted and devoid of talent and intellectual ability, that they have entirely lost the ability to convince the poor, that they are on their side. To be honest, they've entirely stopped even trying! There has been a huge wave of 'anti-hate' in society over the last 20-30 years, especially in the Gen X and Millennial generations that means that the Tory's usual schtick of stoking 'fear of difference,' (ie foreigners, gays, etc,) is abhorrent to us. Their last moment in the sun was Brexit. The Tory party will be decimated at the next election as long as the younger Millennials and older Gen Z's get out and vote, and they will never be a force again. Perhaps it was a bad idea for the Tories to let so many of their traditional voting base die during 2020-22!

As a 54 (Gen X?) homeowner, I know this isn't going to attract any sympathy, but there is a mini-scandal about student loans that never seems to be mentioned. As my income is pretty good, my kids didn't get the full student loan with a top-up required from parents. This isn't made particularly clear to the parents and many students don't get the top-up resulting in extreme student poverty. My daughter is leaving Uni this summer and over the 8 years of their uni life, I have paid over £40k in student support out of taxed income. Obviously, children of boomers had far reduced student fees with no parental contribution, just saying.

I’m of the mind that we should have been going in a certain direction where everyone benefited but the Tories didn’t like that so they screwed over as many people as they could.

“We’ve tried nothin’ and we’re all out of ideas!”

🤣🤣🤣🤣 had a great laugh! Thanks for that😂😅

I'm a younger millenial (94-96), and none of my millennial friends would ever vote Tory

I think the crab in the bucket analogy is misunderstood. Crabs can't grab on to anything because the walls have no ridges so another crab going higher is something for them to hang on to, to try to pull themselves out.

Well a lot of people won't get actually get an inheritance because social care is f'd. So the aging population will have to sell their houses to pay for care homes.

That was swerving all over the place... Loved it!

It took 7 bloody minutes to even begin to hear 1 thought... then you fell back into the crab bucket Thank God we have the glorious Ava Santina to just 'stare at'........👀

*WHAT IS STARTING TO HAVE EFFECT* on the Daily Mail readers etc, their kids are 33 and still at home cos they cant afford to move out ... This is starting to become an issue for Gen X

"Hate" doesn't even come close.

This is why you should stop this boomer, gen z, millennial bs Use the dates

Torries: Am I out of touch? No it's the millenials who are wrong. GenZ: We're not millenials. Millenials: But they are out of touch. GenZ: Mood.

Fighting the power one Ralph Lauren shirt at a time 😂

Im 98, i'm not putting myself with all of the people addicted to tiktok

Well, they have nothing to conserve 😂

Sounak be like: Got anything else I can sell?

I can't understand why everyone except the ultra rich don't hate the Tories.

This was too good dam funny. *Time to invest in paintball*

The most hilarious pub cast yet. If Ed needs an in for that paintball event let me know ….or I could arrange for him to have his own personal event…. Ed running through the woods with a cohort of leather clad Dommes in Michael Gove masks firing paintballs at him.…… that is an afternoon of fun for sure.

Taking 19 of 20 cookies and telling you the immigrants will steal your 1 cookies IS the Tory side of the deal. Wake up and stop pretending their side have souls.

The Tories have basically killed off their own feedstock.

Sad truth, the crab bucket analogy isn't just an analogy. It's biology

"The boomers have homes that have 10-20x increased in value making them very wealthy, and their kids will inherit that they may be 60 when it happens but still" King Charles in the back "I'm still not as rich as rishi though am I!"

Hate is too soft a word for how I feel about Tories and the current government. 01:13 and millennials are those born between 1981 and 1996, so those aged 42 to 26/27.

I genuinely thought that you'd struggle to find someone with less charisma than Keir Starmer, then Rishi Sunak started making public appearances. They're just so devoid of charm...

"somehow"😂

Not all boomers are conservative! There are those of us who would willingly pay more tax & would support a wealth tax & the redistribution of wealth!

1946 to 1965 baby boomer, 1966 to 1985 gen x, 1986 to 2005 millenials, 2006 to 2025 zoomers

Millennials: People born between 1981 and 1996 (27 to 42 years old)

Politics is what they do for the country and how people have a good living. Over the years both labour and tories have done things that have made are lives bad and some good. This is a time where we need real change. We need a party that can tell the truth and stop giving us crap.They need backbone. So we need to think outside of the box of labour and the tories, or we are not going to get real change, and the mess is going to get bigger.

The 1980s Conservatives talked about a property owning democracy and widening share ownership. Those two ambitions (regardless of whether you think they are good or not) are increasingly out of reach for increasing numbers of people the younger they are. The Conservative govt is slowly poisoning the roots of the tree under which they seek shade from the reality (light) of their policies.

I was 15 when the millennium, and I do not see how that makes me a millennial!!

Most sane people hate the tories

Aa a 40 yo millennial who owns a home: Fk the Torys Tax the rich Feed the poor Raise wages Back unions Fund the NHS

Why would labour move right when younger generations are moving left. All these left, right trivialities are meaningless when both parties are holding hands? To be honest millennials disengaging with politics as a whole would not be surprising.

The accumulation of wealth isn't the thing which causes you to become conservative as you age - it's linked to the fact you are getting married and having a family - which is something millennials don't do, and the ones who do are normally conservative

Love the initial convo over which generation is which. I just like to say as a 44 year old that I relate more to prob millennials than people of my own dumb generation and defo not boomers who have a lot to ans for Inc my own parents who I never politically agreed with and think we're naive people God rest there souls....wish more young people would engage in politics and vote!!!

Yes and a lot of older people hate them as well.

There's two tory party, the cabinet party and the back benches party!!

Some do but many don't. Many young people who are doing well will most likely be voting Tory even if they might say they're voting Labour or Lib Dem or Green. Don't forget there are lots of people who will vote Tory to protect their assets but never admit it to a pollster or even their friends! This is especially true for middle class younger people who might talk about fairness etc in public but when they're in that polling booth they're thinking about their Victorian town house, private school fees and exotic holidays. These aren't millionaires but they're doing quite well and don't want to rock the boat. "But not all young people are doing well", I hear you say. Well, those who aren't well off won't be in the polling booth because they don't tend to vote unfortunately.

'95-'99 are borderline "Zillennials". We don't really remember the 90s but we do remember life before social media. We're the Gameboy Advance SP/Nintendo DS lite/slide phone/flash games/Vine/iPod Nano microgeneration between Millennials and Zoomers. Basically, people who graduated university immediately before or at the start of the pandemic are kind of in a weird limbo where we blur the lines between both groups. That being said, the "official" cutoff point generally seems to be '96 = last Millennials; '97 = first Zoomers

Millennials, also known as Generation Y (or Gen Y), typically being defined as people born from 1981 to 1996.

A lot of these people won't inherit from that 'wealth tsunami'. A lot of those boomers will go into nursing homes and those homes will be sold to pay for their care. The government is only obliged to keep £20,000 and that's to pay for things they need while in care, and most of that money will be gone by the time they pass away, so most of that money is going to go to the government to pay for their care and if not them to the private homes they pay to go into. This crises can only end with new legislation and the Tories aren't going to do it. Not to mention how many boomers are defensive and don't care about their kids futures, only themselves.

Nice Terry Pratchet reference about the crab bucket! GNU STP

Gitfted deposits or taking equity out of their property on a lifetime loan with compound interest?

I suppose they can buy a house but just not in London.

I'm gen X, hated the tories when Thatcher was in, hate them even more now.

I'm sure not acquiring wealth is part of the cause, but I wonder how much it's also down to people getting locked into social media bubbles with a certain political perspective, and so not being exposed as much to other political positions as they might have been previously.

Think any decent human hates the tories lol

I'm nothing like a millennial, but I've hated Tories all my life. Perhaps I should be sent to Rwanda?

i hated the tories when i was young .Now i am old i hate them even more.

I’m an older millennial (born 1984) and I’ll never vote for the Conservative party. I’m not sure I’ll vote to be honest.

Starting to get the feeling she is just a tourist here. Thinking common people by Pulp..

Exciting that millennials (me) & zoomers are into socialism, environmentalism & people power, and not the Tory party

People arguing over what generation they are in is such a useless argument to have

There's another possibility... people don't change but society progresses so as a person gets older their unchanging beliefs move to the right of where society is heading. The effect is that young people who are more in tune with developing society are (or appear to be) left wing while older people without changing now find themselves on the right (or conservative) wing of society. In other words what's happening is progress is stalled and so this effect is stalled too so even though people get older they don't appear to become more conservative compared to society's lack of progress.

shouldn't that be: 'you need to PUT me in my misery' lolz also - 'did someone paintball you?' 'ahhh no the pain was so nice I 'paintballed' myself mistress - so sorry' lolol

I’m a millennial and I was born in 1985.

So the drink was whisky for this Pubcast then. 🤣

These three so smoked a huge joint before recording this.

Young people (under 40, including school kids in this) are being disabled by covid all over the shop, 10% of first infection, 16% of second infection, so we will never be wealthy, and neither will the country - covid inquiry estimated £60m a year cost to support all the newly disabled people, even if covid disappears today. This is a story no one is covering because tory bashing is too easy. 2m out of work, potentially for good. Inquiry is all on youtube

That's why PubCast is the future : we all want to get a bit tipsy with the gang there and laugh till we cry about weird funny stuff :)

The opening debate shows how arbitrary and stupid the age ranges that have been invented are. The groupings are too wide to be meaningful and say nothing about what individuals within the groups might think. As a so cold ‘boomer’ I constantly find myself more socially progressive than those in other groups who often exhibit regressive social characteristics. And I am not alone, lots of my ‘boomer’ friends are progressive democratic socialists. Age is a generally poor indicator of political outlooks.

Millenials are the people who were approaching adulthood at or around the time of the millenium.